POL I think Trump Should HAve the W.H. Swept For Bugs

Buick Electra

TB2K Girls with Guns
With a bunch of stuff 'leaking' out, I wonder if Trump had a security company go through the WH with fine tooth combs in search if mics and bugs. I was going to do a thread on this right after 1/20 but life got ahead of me.

I wouldn't put it past Jarret to have laid some listening devices throughout the place.

ETA: And look what I just came across...

Fair Use.

"In 26 Years, I've Never Seen Anything Like This" White House Leaks Reportedly Reveal Trump Team Turmoil
By Tyler Durden - Feb 8, 2017 9:09 AM

Trump’s volatile behavior has created an environment ripe for leaks from his executive agencies and even within his White House, according to The Huffington Post. And while leaks typically involve staffers sabotaging each other to improve their own standing or trying to scuttle policy ideas they find genuinely problematic, Trump’s 2-week-old administration has a third category: leaks from White House and agency officials alarmed by the president’s conduct.

For Americans who based their impression of Trump on the competent and decisive tycoon he portrayed on his “Apprentice” TV reality shows, the portrait from these and many other tidbits emerging from his administration may seem a shock: an impulsive, sometimes petty chief executive more concerned with the adulation of the nation than the details of his own policies ? and quick to assign blame when things do not go his way.



“I’ve been in this town for 26 years. I have never seen anything like this,” said Eliot Cohen, a senior State Department official under President George W. Bush and a member of his National Security Council. “I genuinely do not think this is a mentally healthy president.”



There is the matter of Trump’s briefing materials, for example. The commander in chief doesn’t like to read long memos, a White House aide who asked to remain unnamed told The Huffington Post. So preferably they must be no more than a single page. They must have bullet points but not more than nine per page.



Small things can provide him great joy or generate intense irritation. Trump told The New York Times that he’s fascinated with the phone system inside the White House. At the same time, he’s registered a complaint about the hand towels aboard Air Force One, the White House aide said, because they are not soft enough.



He’s been particularly obsessed with the performance of his aides on cable television.

Notably, HuffPo admits...

Information about Trump’s personal interactions and the inner workings of his administration has come to HuffPost from individuals in executive agencies and in the White House itself. They spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of losing their jobs.



While some of the leaks are based on opposition to his policies – the travel ban on all refugees and on visitors from seven predominantly Muslim nations, for instance – many appear motivated by a belief that Trump’s words, deeds and tweets pose a genuine threat.

The New York Times, meanwhile, painted a portrait of a brooding commander in chief, wandering the White House alone in a bathrobe at night, watching too much cable television and venting his frustrations through angry tweets.

“I think it’s a cry for help,” said Elizabeth Rosenberg, a counterterrorism expert at the Treasury Department under Obama.



She said many staffers still working in the national security agencies under Trump see what’s happening and are driven by a simple motive: “Incredulity, and the need to share it.”

However, Daily Caller's Kerry Picket reports that President Donald Trump pointed the finger at Obama administration holdovers at the White House and National Security Council for leaking information about private phone conversations he had with leaders of Australia and Mexico.

“It’s a disgrace that they leaked because it’s very much against our country,” Trump told Fox News Sunday, accusing “Obama people” in civil service positions for the leaks.



“It’s a very dangerous thing for this country,” he added noting that these individuals were still being sought out and replaced.



Trump described the media stories of what seemed to be contentious interactions between him and the two foreign leaders as misreported, and contended that he actually had “positive” conversations with both men.



Leaks relating to the new White House have gone to mainstream media outlets that Trump has blasted in the past for treating him unfairly including: the New York Times, The Washington Post, NBC and the Associated Press.

Ron Kaufman, who worked in George H.W. Bush’s White House in the late 1980s and early 1990s, argued that the Trump administration’s leaks are par for the course for a young administration. “There’s always leaks,” Kaufman said. “Every president in history has said the press hates me and there’s too many leaks.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...house-leaks-reportedly-reveal-trump-team-turm
 

dstraito

TB Fanatic
I think a staff purge might be called for as well. Hopefully IT has checked all the electronic devices for bugs or programs to capture keystrokes and ensure there is no phone cloning going on.

They probably have something in place to prevent eves dropping by targeting the vibrations on a window.

Sweeping for bugs should probably be done daily.

Traps can be set where you tell specific people unique information so if it is leaked you know who did it, then prosecute to the maximum.
 

straightstreet

Life is better in flip flops
It seemed to me that he would have done that to start with. It doesn't mean he did but just common sense to me.
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
Read it again - there is nothing in there that shows there is a problem......

"Walking the halls in his bathrobe"??......this is his private quarters and nobody should be there who is not invited or the SS.......if he gets dressed for bed and then has an idea in his head, is he supposed to fully dressed to go check some data in an office? Trying to make him sound like a crazy person only shows him as being just as human as we all are when we wander around at night.

This is all just FAKE news and isn't news at all. Just pure speculation and projection by his enemies.....rumours.

He would not be obsessed with the phone system, just admiring of what it is able to accomplish......I believe the hand towels as he is concerned with cleanliness, which is maybe why he is so health.

Those phone calls to foreign leaders are just lies - and they have been debunked by the actual people he phoned.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
The ELINT people have the tech developed from decades of playing cat and mouse with the Soviets/Russians/Chinese etc. to root out infestations.

Problem is the other side here may well be using our own intel agency expertise in their efforts.

So this might be more like cat vs. cat.....
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
_______________
Any "leaks" are intentional.

I have seen nothing but fairly complex strategery from Trump.
 

Racing22

Crew Chief
However, Daily Caller's Kerry Picket reports that President Donald Trump pointed the finger at Obama administration holdovers at the White House and National Security Council for leaking information about private phone conversations he had with leaders of Australia and Mexico.

This is all it is, Obama hold outs trying to make things difficult. Once the swamp gets totally drained, it should be fixed. Trump can't completely clean out all W.H. support staff in one week.
 

mom2many

Veteran Member
I thought we went on the assumption that no named source = fake news. All the people they do quote are former administration employees as in previously employed not currently employed so how would they know anything to be considered a reliable source.

The person bitching about single page briefings should be glad THIS President actually reads one as we were told the last one never attended security briefings.

Edit to add, I thought the leaked phone call with the Australian PM was leaked by him? According to the op they are still blaming WH staff.

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...highlight=Trump+phone+call+with+Australian+pm
 
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Faroe

Un-spun
Is it possible to sweep it clean? My understanding is that even a cell phone can be hacked and used as a listening device.

I don't think the WH is even safe for him. He should consider working from Trump Tower.
 

Freeholder

This too shall pass.
The 'media' are inventing so many total lies already that it would be nothing for them to invent all these supposedly leaked issues. I don't believe anything that comes from the left-wing media. They probably don't actually have any of the information they are claiming to have.

On the other hand, if there are still people working on the WH staff who supported Obama, it might be a good idea to root them out and find them jobs somewhere else, where they can't do any harm (or just let them go).

Kathleen
 

TorahTips

Membership Revoked
From what I understand, certain areas of the WH (like the Oval Office) are constantly swept. All signals except for those authorized are jammed -- including cell phones. I call "fake" on this news. They are trying to make Trump look like he's nuts.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Must be lonely though.

Dobbin

Probably not too much with his schedule though. With getting 4 hours of sleep a night as hard as he pushed I'd bet he doesn't have time to get lonely. Probably falls asleep within a few minutes of laying down. Has to be very hard on his marriage though. Would be better if she was living in the White House with him.
 

Faroe

Un-spun
Probably not too much with his schedule though. With getting 4 hours of sleep a night as hard as he pushed I'd bet he doesn't have time to get lonely. Probably falls asleep within a few minutes of laying down. Has to be very hard on his marriage though. Would be better if she was living in the White House with him.


Not if the WH is a nest of palace intrigue. My guess is that the couple decided to treat it like going off to war. Trump will come *home* when the fight is over.
 

bbbuddy

DEPLORABLE ME
These aren't "leaks", they are just fake news. Any "newsie" can make up a story out of thin air and pretend it was "leaked"to them....
 

mom2many

Veteran Member
Here's a politico article that talks about the calls and you can just hear the butthurt from 'insiders' upset they aren't running the government like they did under Obama.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-foreign-leaders-phone-calls-234770

WHITE HOUSE
Trump’s faux-pas diplomacy
The State Department is struggling to contain the fallout as Trump goes off topic in calls with foreign leaders.
By TARA PALMERI, KENNETH P. VOGEL, JOSH DAWSEY and NAHAL TOOSI 02/08/17 05:08 AM EST

President Donald Trump spent much of a recent phone call with French President Francois Hollande veering off into rants about the U.S. getting shaken down by other countries, according to a senior official with knowledge of the call, creating an awkward interaction with a critical U.S. ally.

While the Hollande call Jan. 28 did touch on pressing matters between the two countries — namely the fight against the Islamic State — Trump also used the exchange to vent about his personal fixations, including his belief that the United States is being taken advantage of by China and international bodies like NATO, the official said.


At one point, Trump declared that the French can continue protecting NATO, but that the U.S. “wants our money back,” the official said, adding that Trump seemed to be “obsessing over money.”

“It was a difficult conversation, because he talks like he’s speaking publicly,” the official said. “It’s not the usual way heads of state speak to each other. He speaks with slogans, and the conversation was not completely organized.”

The revelations about the unconventional call are only the latest in a series of leaked accounts of Trump’s calls with foreign leaders that are generating increasing doubts about the new president’s style of diplomacy at a time of global uncertainty. Diplomats and politicians across the spectrum and around the world are worried that Trump’s seemingly unstructured and personality-driven approach to dealing with foreign leaders risks alienating traditional allies and emboldening foes.

Trump and the White House have so far brushed off the concerns, which spiked after reports emerged that he warned Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto that he might send troops to Mexico to clear out the “bad hombres down there” and that he argued with Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull over a prior agreement with the Obama administration to resettle refugees from a camp in Australia, saying that Turnbull is giving him “the next Boston bombers.”

The White House has provided sanitized readouts, including of the call with Hollande, presenting it as a focused conversation with Trump expressing his support for NATO. “President Trump reaffirmed the U.S. commitment to NATO and noted the importance of all NATO Allies sharing the burden on defense spending,” the release read. “The leaders also lauded our combined efforts to eliminate ISIS in Iraq and Syria.”

A member of the National Security Council staff also pushed back against the senior official’s assessment of the Hollande call.

“This is mischaracterization due to the nature of the call,” said the staff member, a communications aide. “They did discuss the issue of countries meeting their defense commitments under NATO. They agreed that was important that countries meet their goals.” (France is among the NATO members that do not meet the target of 2 percent of GDP to be contributed to the alliance’s defense.)

The aide also did not elaborate on why Trump brought up the topic of China with the French president.

Trump also defended himself at the National Prayer Breakfast last week, telling the crowd, “When you hear about the tough phone calls I’m having, don’t worry about it. Just don’t worry about it.”

But there are plenty of people worried

“This is not the way you lead our country,” Sen. Mark Warner of Virginia, the top Democrat on the intelligence committee, said of the Mexico and Australia conversations. Warner added in a brief interview that he remains concerned about Trump’s combative calls with foreign leaders.

Veterans at the State Department are also worried about Trump’s brash style in dealing with world leaders and his early forays into foreign policy.

The phone calls to foreign leaders from France, Germany, Mexico, Russia and Japan during Trump’s first week in office came with little guidance from the State Department, angering some at the agency, which is accustomed to briefing presidents extensively on geopolitical currents before the calls happen.

State Department officials say there’s little respect at Foggy Bottom for Trump’s Twitter diplomacy, where longtime foreign policy hands find themselves simultaneously frustrated and relieved by the fact that they are limited in their ability to go out and try to clean up Trump’s diplomatic mess because of all the vacancies at the department.

Still, not all of Trump’s phone calls have gone off the rails.

The trick to a good call with Trump is less about policy agreement than personal chemistry, said two people familiar with some of the world leader talks.

For example, New Zealand Prime Minister Bill English began his Sunday evening call with Trump by thanking the president for taking the time to talk during the Super Bowl and chatting about New Zealand golfer Bob Charles, said someone briefed on the call. The person said that set the tone for an amicable conversation, even though English went on to express disagreement with Trump’s executive order restricting travel from seven predominantly Muslim countries.


And, when the politics and the personalities mesh, the calls can become mutual admiration societies, as was the case with Trump’s call during the transition with Milos Zeman, president of the Czech Republic.

Zeman is a hard-liner on both immigration and Iran, and he and Trump found common ground on those issues, but also hit it off personally in a big way, said a Czech political operative briefed on the call.

Trump told Zeman “you’re my type of guy” and invited him to the White House repeatedly during the course of the conversation (a visit was subsequently, but tentatively, scheduled for April). “We expected it to go well, but it was surprising how well it went. The chemistry was very good,” said the Czech operative.

There is intense speculation in diplomatic circles about how Trump’s off-the-cuff style may have played out during a call last month with Russian President Vladimir Putin, whose country is considered America’s top geopolitical foe, but for whom Trump has had kind words. The White House released only a brief, anodyne readout of that phone call, and so far, few additional details have been disseminated.

As for the calls that did result in leaks or unpleasantries, State Department officials have been struggling to manage the fallout, according to an agency official.

Normally, this person said, any change in foreign policy — or discussions on the calls — would be heavily vetted with experts and senior department officials. “These are usually the most orchestrated of affairs,” this person said. “They aren’t orchestrated like that anymore.”

This person said “what really bothers you about this administration is they don’t care about the experts and what we’ve done here for decades. I don’t think they trust us for anything.”

For the most part, American officials in embassies around the world have had to refer to the White House when asked about policy direction or the president’s verbal lashes. Because Secretary of State Rex Tillerson was confirmed just days ago — and a slew of top posts at the department remain unfilled — most U.S. diplomats simply don’t have much guidance about what to say to their counterparts. The State Department’s public affairs division has yet to hold its traditional daily press briefing under the new

One U.S. diplomat mentioned avoiding doing a Q & A session at the end of a recent public appearance overseas to escape the likely volley of questions about the new president. When speaking to counterparts, the diplomat has been counseling patience, assuring them that things will likely improve once Tillerson appoints his subordinates and conversations on issues ranging from trade to security can resume in full.

The challenge, the diplomat said, is that foreign leaders’ patience will run out, especially in places facing important elections of their own in the next year or two. Those countries include Mexico, France and Germany, where the relationship with the U.S. is already a campaign issue.

The Trump disruption “becomes a bigger story than it otherwise might be because it’s political season,” the diplomat said. “It’s the kind of thing you can manage for a week or so, but the story isn’t really going away.”

Since taking over, Tillerson, the former CEO of ExxonMobil, has spurred hope within the foreign service that he will be a stabilizing force. His first day was spent meeting or speaking on the phone with representatives of several of America’s closest allies: the foreign ministers of Germany, Mexico and Canada, as well as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

In the days since, Tillerson also has spoken to counterparts in Australia, South Korea and Japan, as well as NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.

The State Department has offered thin readouts that nonetheless were reassuring to U.S. diplomats: “In all of his conversations, Secretary Tillerson stressed America’s steadfast commitment to its key allies and partners as it works to protect the interests and safety of the American people.”

He has his work cut out for him, though. According to the State official, the department is “on edge more than I’ve ever seen it, and I’ve worked here for more than two decades.” Officials have even begun communicating covertly with each other, afraid the administration will listen in on them.

This person said that more people wanted to sign the dissent memo blasting Trump’s recent executive order on refugees and immigrants, which ultimately attracted the signatures of nearly 1,000 State Department employees. But the official said there “was confusion on how to sign it, and whether it was going to cost you your job.”

“We’re hoping Tillerson helps figure it out,” the State Department official said. “We don’t know much about how he will do, but I think everyone is glad he’s here.”

Elana Schor contributed to this report.
 

Weps

Veteran Member
Come on folks, let's get real here.

Trump will or has pick(ed) his OWN Director of White House Information Technology and Chief Information Security Officer, who will then each pick staffs that are thoroughly vetted inside and out, by both SS and Trump.

Half the WH is a SCIF, receives daily sweeps for ELINT devices, and a host of other counter-ISR procedures. This is Obama holdovers trying to make the transition difficult, once he has them placed in unimportant positions...which is why we're seeing controlled leaks, things will be shored up on the HUMINT end of the spectrum.
 
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