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20Gauge

20Gauge

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Just got done moving my ammo to the new safe I got for my birthday. So I took the opportunity to count the rounds I have vs plans......not looking good....

9mm. Plan 1000. Actual. 550......Plan for 500 per gun / 2 guns
22. Plan 10,0000. Actual. 8100.....half CCI
223 / 556. Plan 2000 Actual 680.....50/50 mix

So here is hoping for good sales this year. I already have plans s for a Ruger Mark IV for the wife, slings, new rear sights and a red dot. It will be an expensive Christmas....

:eek:
 
hiwall

hiwall

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I don't count my ammo but I know I have enough......unless I run across a good sale :)
 
NoMoreLibs

NoMoreLibs

Kill Commie's, Every Single One Of Them!
20Gauge said:
Just got done moving my ammo to the new safe I got for my birthday. So I took the opportunity to count the rounds I have vs plans......not looking good....

9mm. Plan 1000. Actual. 550......Plan for 500 per gun / 2 guns
22. Plan 10,0000. Actual. 8100.....half CCI
223 / 556. Plan 2000 Actual 680.....50/50 mix

So here is hoping for good sales this year. I already have plans s for a Ruger Mark IV for the wife, slings, new rear sights and a red dot. It will be an expensive Christmas....

:eek:
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Aww, that's a cute stack. Nice start though.

I'm at the point that no matter how next Tuesday goes, I'll get a case of each cal before 2020, just to round us off and mags. But not .22LR. Lordy, lordy, I've got just enough of that stuff.

You may only have 2 years left, maybe, to really get stacked deep and cheap.
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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You only support 3 calibers?

Without going into numbers:

.22
.45ACP
.357 mag/.38SP
.308 Win
5.56
7.62x39
.40S&W
12G
.454 Casull/.45LC

ETA: .300 WinMag
 
Thunderbird

Thunderbird

Veteran Member
Do not forget a Volquartson trigger setup for your Mk 4. You will not be sorry at all. Out of the box trigger on the wife's was horrible.
 
20Gauge

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
NoMoreLibs said:
Aww, that's a cute stack. Nice start though.

I'm at the point that no matter how next Tuesday goes, I'll get a case of each cal before 2020, just to round us off and mags. But not .22LR. Lordy, lordy, I've got just enough of that stuff.

You may only have 2 years left, maybe, to really get stacked deep and cheap.
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I agree, but cash is always a limiting factor
 
NoMoreLibs

NoMoreLibs

Kill Commie's, Every Single One Of Them!
20Gauge said:
I agree, but cash is always a limiting factor
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Yup. It's why I stacked when I could, I knew my cash would be going away for awhile. You still have just under two years to get stuff done. Just don't wait until the last minute.
 
20Gauge

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
Dennis Olson said:
You only support 3 calibers?

Without going into numbers:

.22
.45ACP
.357 mag/.38SP
.308 Win
5.56
7.62x39
.40S&W
12G
.454 Casull/.45LC
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Actually 4, with the last being 20g. That one is more of a bird, pest gun.

We picked 3 main calibers to begin with and bought guns to match or built them as in the case of the AR15s. The idea being able to get ammo easily with common standard calibers. We both can load out with the same guns, cross load as needed and still travel relatively light. Just trying to think and prep for the worst while working for the best.
 
20Gauge

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
NoMoreLibs said:
Yup. It's why I stacked when I could, I knew my cash would be going away for awhile. You still have just under two years to get stuff done. Just don't wait until the last minute.
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We haven't. Most times, I try and get a box or three when we go to town. It has been helping
 
D

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Really handy for stacking deep -

https://www.mtmcase-gard.com/ammo-crates-mtm.php

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The larger sizes get heavy in a hurry - beware.
 
hiwall

hiwall

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Those plastic egg crates hold a lot of ammo and can be stacked but goodness they are heavy.
I have too many calibers! But I do have bullet casting equipment along with plenty of hard lead. Primers galore and plenty of powder.
Also a couple of bp guns and two cannons.
 
JF&P

JF&P

Deceased
9mm
10mm
.223
7.62 x 51 Nato
30/30 Win

1000 rds each.:wvflg:

Ooops...I forgot my Remington 870 Police....only a couple boxes of ammo for it.
 
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Doc1

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
20Gauge said:
I agree, but cash is always a limiting factor
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Or, you could buy a decent, used, single-stage reloading press, put in a supply of primers and powder and pick up a couple of Lee bullet molds for your most-used calibers and be good to go. This is a much, much cheaper option than buying factory ammo when you're trying to stack deep.

Best regards
Doc
 
NoDandy

NoDandy

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20 gauge, you are doing pretty good. Few years ago, when we had a shop, bunch of customers hanging around, talking about SHTF & how much ammo they would need. One guy claimed he would take on a Chinese Airborne Div with his grand dad's 10 gauge. One guy asked him how much ammo he had for it, he said "plenty". Turned out he had 3 1/2 boxes. One of the guys said " your cooked ". There are plenty guys out there that think they have plenty, and don't have enough for one small firefight.

:rolleyes:
 
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Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
I played magazine loader and general factotum for my wife in an Awerbuck carbine class once upon a time. There were about 30 students in the class, and some were using commercial or home brewed reloads. As a three day class, the round count was 1000 per student. As I recall there was but one student shooting something other than an AR (an M-1 carbine, WW2 vintage, which had its rear sight shoot loose).

Have you ever thought about the many ways a backed out/blown primer can tie up an AR-15? Since I was a repeat student and not shooting this class, as well as loading my wife's magazines (thank you, LULA) Louis let me sort out failing guns for other students to save time. I pulled whole primers, cups and anvils out of barrel extensions, fire control mechanisms, lower receiver recesses etc. for three days. After that I swore I would NEVER use reloads in an AR I had to depend on.

I also used up all the oil I brought along (4 ounces), and put in one set of gas rings for a student with a very experienced AR. First time I ever saw one fail the bolt test, too (remove carrier assy, stand on the bolt face on a hard surface and let the weight of the asssembly rest on the bolt - if it rotates/closes the gas rings need attention).
 
NoDandy

NoDandy

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Dozdoats said:
I played magazine loader and general factotum for my wife in an Awerbuck carbine class once upon a time. There were about 30 students in the class, and some were using commercial or home brewed reloads. As a three day class, the round count was 1000 per student. As I recall there was but one student shooting something other than an AR (an M-1 carbine, WW2 vintage, which had its rear sight shoot loose).

Have you ever thought about the many ways a backed out/blown primer can tie up an AR-15? Since I was a repeat student and not shooting this class, as well as loading my wife's magazines (thank you, LULA) Louis let me sort out failing guns for other students to save time. I pulled whole primers, cups and anvils out of barrel extensions, fire control mechanisms, lower receiver recesses etc. for three days. After that I swore I would NEVER use reloads in an AR I had to depend on.

I also used up all the oil I brought along (4 ounces), and put in one set of gas rings for a student with a very experienced AR. First time I ever saw one fail the bolt test, too (remove carrier assy, stand on the bolt face on a hard surface and let the weight of the asssembly rest on the bolt - if it rotates/closes the gas rings need attention).
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I agree. For serious defensive work, I want factory loads. Reloads are fine for most bolt guns, range, etc. but if possible combat, I want factory stuff. Buy by the case, stacked, it is ready to go. If Antifa / Ghetto apes come marching up the street, will not be time to start cranking out reloads.
 
NoDandy

NoDandy

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Profit of Doom said:
Speaking of, what is a good source for 7.62 strippers? I only have 20, far more ammo than that.
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At one time, Centerfire Systems, or Aim Surplus. Don't know about now. If they do not have them, they could probably steer you to a good source. Hope that helps
;)
 
F

fish hook

Deceased
20Gauge said:
Just got done moving my ammo to the new safe I got for my birthday. So I took the opportunity to count the rounds I have vs plans......not looking good....

9mm. Plan 1000. Actual. 550......Plan for 500 per gun / 2 guns
22. Plan 10,0000. Actual. 8100.....half CCI
223 / 556. Plan 2000 Actual 680.....50/50 mix

So here is hoping for good sales this year. I already have plans s for a Ruger Mark IV for the wife, slings, new rear sights and a red dot. It will be an expensive Christmas....

:eek:
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I see you are packing for a boat trip.
 
Raggedyman

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
NML:

"You may only have 2 years left, maybe, to really get stacked deep and cheap."

^^^WISDOM^^^ - ammo is like $$$$$ in the bank - how much is "TOO MUCH" of that?
 
Knighttemplar

Knighttemplar

Veteran Member
Knew a guy in Iraq, his squad went through 14,000 rounds in 30 minutes. Of coursse that included belted. Good thing they had extra ammo in the hummers.
 
Raggedyman

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
to kind of "hitch hike" on the OP -

what's the common consensus as regards the recommended MINIMUM # rounds per battle rifle?

I'm thinking 15 30 round mags and 5000 rounds/weap MINIMUM . . . am I in the ball park?
 
20Gauge

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
Raggedyman said:
to kind of "hitch hike" on the OP -

what's the common consensus as regards the recommended MINIMUM # rounds per battle rifle?

I'm thinking 15 30 round mags and 5000 rounds/weap MINIMUM . . . am I in the ball park?
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I was going with 1k per rifle so that if we left, we could carry it for the hand guns and rifles
 
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Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
what's the common consensus as regards the recommended MINIMUM # rounds per battle rifle?

A GI basic load of magazines X2 as a minimum, And ammo enough for four basic loads.

Those numbers will vary by platform. An M1-A = 5 20 round magazines for a basic load (4 in pouches, 1 in the rifle) x 2 = 10 magazines, 10 20 round magazines = 200 rounds X 4 = at least 800 rounds on hand for real. Training and practice ammo as needed...

AR? Basic load is 7 30 round magazines (in in the rifle, 6 in pouches) x 2 = 14 magazines, = 420 rounds to fill those magazines. And tell me again how much 5.56 a 30 cal ammo can holds? 420 rounds you say? What a COINKYDINK! And 4 X 420 = 1680 rounds of go to war ammo, plus training and practice ammo on top of that.

And so on, for each different platform supported. YMMV, works for me to figure minimums.
 
Raggedyman

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
thanks Doz . . . appreciate the reassurance - IMO always best to be a little "fat" - at least in some areas
 
P

Profit of Doom

Dismember
SKS 500 rounds of new, consistent ammo. Over 700 rounds of assorted on sale stuff.
9mm 250 rounds hollow point, couple hundred assorted.
12 ga 00 flitecontrol 250 rounds and some assorted.
Squeezed an order in before end of year, money was short. Still spent $400.
Figure if I run out of ammo and I’m still alive, I should have been able to have picked up something.
 
DazedandConfused

DazedandConfused

Veteran Member
7.62x39= 2k 20-30rd mag
.308 = 1k
30.06 =500
6.5 creedmoor =500
.338 lapua =100
.300 BLK 500
45acp=1500
.38,45 LC , 100
.22lr 10k
.22 mag 1k
12ga 1k mix slug, 00buck
Plus reload materials. 45acp ,338 lapua,30.06,.308 and 6.5 creedmoor.

Split up between 4 secure locations I don't keep all my eggs in one basket .
 
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