Hows your garden doing?

Kathy in WV

Down on the Farm...
This is the first year we got really serious about doing raised beds and its going awesome!! We filled ours with almost nothing but rabbit poop and everything we planted is gigantic. I can't believe it has made that much of a difference. No bugs on anything (yet) no wilt or fungus. And another plus is that the "dirt" is so soft you can pull the few weeds out roots and all! So far I've got tomatoes, peppers, squash and cukes. One bed of Fat Horse polebeans is just starting to come up. I transplanted my rhubarb just into the ground with a big scoop of rabbit "gift" :D and its going wild too! Same thing with the grapes and garlic. So tell me whats doing good in your garden this year and what are you doing with it? (mulching, organic sprays etc...)

Also, I'm wanting to do a raised bed of nothing but herbs and really need advice about what to do. I read they don't like rich soils and I don't know a lot about it so jump in and teach me...(please!!) Kat
 

housemouse

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Hi, Kathy! Rabbit poo is great for gardens. I am still trying to find a good source near me.

About the herbs... I put mine in big pots for a couple of reasons. It is easier to keep the soil in the pots on the "poor" side, so as not to worry about the rest of the garden.

In my climate, some of my favorite herbs, such as rosemary, do not overwinter well, and having these in a pot makes it easy to bring them in for the winter. Pots seem to be a bit hotter, and I can put them on stones/gravel near my kitchen door for quick and easy use for cooking.

Some herbs that I really like, such as the mints, can bve invasive in the garden, and keeping these in pots helps to keep them under control.

If we are having way too much rain, I can move my pots to the porch, keeping them drier, which is closer to the climate they prefer.

Just a few ideas on why herbs in pots are my preference.

Oh, and about bugs! Do not worry about them a whole lot. If you concentrate on healthy soil and never "spray", the good bugs will take care of the bad bugs. Always wait a bit to see who shows up to eat who, even if it means a few holes here and there. Your garden will be happier for it.
 

Cassie

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jacquej -- I'll send you some rabbit poo! Man do we have the rabbits around here and we live in the city. We have a fenced yard, but you know those little critters sqeeze through the smallest spaces. They are getting very annoying -- eating all my flowers. I was out today clipping off dead blooms and the rabbits have eaten all the buttercups. There are nothing but empty stems.

Kat -- I have always wanted to raise herbs. But I had heard they take a lot of work so I opted for the simpler stuff like tomatoes and peppers, pickles and zucchini. I do have one parsley plant that came up from last year. The other 3 plants must have died out during the winter. We just got our plants in the ground this week. Thanks for the tip about rabbit poo. I should take my scooper around the back yard and fetch every little pellet I can find. Of course then my neighbors will know for sure I am a nutcase. :lol: Good luck with your garden!!

Cassie
 

housemouse

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Hey, you heard wrong about herbs being hard.

They are very easy. Just do not "fertilize" them, let them get too wet, and "pinch" them back every once in awhile.

Get a few cheap pots of the right size for the herb you want to try, maybe your favorites. Read up on their needs, and give it a go. Once you have a bit of success under your belt, you will have the confidence to try a few more, and soon you will be a happy herber.
 

Kathy in WV

Down on the Farm...
jacquej-

What do you think about planting my herbs in tire planters? My husband took 2 big truck tires, left them on the rim on one side, cut around the other side and turned them inside out. The rim gives them a pedestal to stand on so they aren't actually on the ground. The soil in them stays warmer and doesn't get waterlogged either. I had my rhubarb in one of them for 2 years because I knew we were moving soon and it did fine. I could plant a lot in 2 of them.

Cassie,

Rabbits are super easy to raise, don't take much space and are considered to be pets so you don't have any zoning issues with them in town usually. Just 4 rabbits make a lot of poo over a years time and I can't believe how my stuff is growing!! Plus, even though I don't want to eat them even if times were terrible, my hubby and son don't share my "squeamishness" and would eat them in a heartbeat so we consider them a prep item!! I know, I know, if I was hungry enough I'd eat them too!!:lol:

Kat
 

housemouse

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Think that would work just fine, really!

You have nothing to lose. People use truck tires as "raised beds" all the time. Just remember to be careful about the mints, for they will take over everything. Best to keep these in pots. They prefer cooler and a bit shadier than the mediterranean type herbs conditions anyway.
 

Just Plain Mom

Alien Lizard Person
My garden? *sigh*

I can't even plant here until the end of May--maybe Monday. I need one of my boys to till again before I get in there to do the actual planting. It's so windy out there, I don't really want them to do it today.

Right now, the horse is making himself useful in there--eating weeds from the part I won't plant this year and leaving tomorrow's compost pile. I figure he owes me anyway, because a couple of years ago he got into the garden and ate *everything* in one night. That was the year he earned the nickname "Piggy".

I do have a few pots planted--lettuce, spinach, tomatoes--and they're doing well. Even those we can't plant very early. We've also harvested the wild asparagus that grows next to our access road.

This summer we're planning to build a greenhouse. We have all the material (scavenged), but my husband got hurt at work and can't walk well yet, so it may have to wait. Maybe the boys and I will have time, but since we're doing Dad's chores and waiting on him hand-and-foot, I'm not sure.

Ah, I love where I live, but I do sometimes wish our planting season were longer. Some years we just barely make it before it freezes.
 

Willow

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Jacquei wrote:
Hey, you heard wrong about herbs being hard.

They are very easy. Just do not "fertilize" them, let them get too wet, and "pinch" them back every once in awhile.
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I am doing a container garden for the first time this year and I love it. We have had a bit too much rain so I just moved the pots under the porch. If we get a frost...it's real chilly right now...I can bring them in.

Now to my question. Why don't you recommend fertilizing herbs? I am not doubting your advise...just gathering info as this is the first time I have been serious about gardening. I am blessed with A LOT of rabbit poo so I was going to feed the herbs along with the veggies.

If anyone is in the southern tier of NYS I have plenty of bunny berries to share.....along with truck loads of goat and horse manure!

Willow
 

squeeksmom

Deceased
Garden doing just lousy!!! Been too cold and wet up here to even get a seed in the ground yet. We don't normally plant till the end of May, but it's still tooooo cold. Maybe next week. 90 day growing season, so I still have time. :(
 

Kathy in WV

Down on the Farm...
squeeksmom,
WOW, that seems like a short growing season! I bet you have to really plan carefully about what you want to plant so you'll get a crop. I had my tomatoes out in April and just kept a watch out for cold nights and covered them up. We have had way too much rain this spring and I really think my stuff would not be doing so good if it was just down in the ground.

jacquej, should I fill my tire planters with poor soil or what do you suggest? Our local dirt is kinda rocky with clay in a lot of places. From what I've read, I don't think rabbit poo is the best choice for it. Kat
 

Kathy in WV

Down on the Farm...
squeeksmom,
WOW, that seems like a short growing season! I bet you have to really plan carefully about what you want to plant so you'll get a crop. I had my tomatoes out in April and just kept a watch out for cold nights and covered them up. We have had way too much rain this spring and I really think my stuff would not be doing so good if it was just down in the ground.

jacquej, should I fill my tire planters with poor soil or what do you suggest? Our local dirt is kinda rocky with clay in a lot of places. From what I've read, I don't think rabbit poo is the best choice for it. Kat
 

Tweakette

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Here in VT gardening season is just starting. We had a near-frost last night (36 degrees) - made me glad I didn't put the tomatos in yet. They'll go in next weekend, should be ok then.

The broccoli, lettuce, peas, and spinach has been in for about 3 weeks and is doing ok. Got some crummy germination on the peas again, so reseeded parts of the row today.

Yesterday and today I put in beans, carrots, beets, onions, cabbage, and some herbs. I could've put the cabbage in earlier but didn't have the seedlings as I bought them from someone's kid who was selling them for his Little League team.

I also completely dug out my front and back flower beds, transplanted a whole bunch of lily-of-the-valley that is taking over, and put in some impatiens and gazania.

The place is looking much better but I'm so stiff I can barely walk :lol: .

Tweak
 

gonefishin

Contributing Member
herbs

Hi all!
I started last year planting all of my herbs in concrete blocks.
They came back this year and I added more blocks and herbs.
I also plant basil in with some of my tomatoes- right in the garden.
I tried the cinnamon basil this year and really like it.
The only problem I'm having this year is that too many of my melons seem to be falling off once they've started.
I don't think we have enough bees for pollenation...
Any ideas?
I've watered them well enough and fertilized them once since planting. It might be that I am only growing heirloom plants now and not having as much success as i was before.....:rolleyes:
 

Libertarian

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No garden this year. I hope to get one in later and work it for bext spring. The peach trees are going nuts and are loaded with fruit. The fig that "died" last year has send up a surprise from the root. From the way it is growing (1'+/mo) it should give me a few figs before the winter shuts it down. My transplanted pecan is still looking grim. Since it is still flexible, I have hope that it may recover. If it survives, I'll leave it in the pot for another year or two before shocking it again with another transplant
 

housemouse

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Kathy in WV said:


jacquej, should I fill my tire planters with poor soil or what do you suggest? Our local dirt is kinda rocky with clay in a lot of places. From what I've read, I don't think rabbit poo is the best choice for it. Kat

How about going to the Square Foot Website and use "Mel's Mix.

I generally put potting soil that I buy by the bag in my pots for herbs, but I do not buy the stuff that comes with fertilizer added. I do not buy new soil every year, since herbs need less fertilizer than fruiits, flowers, and veggies.

Gardens Alive sells special fertilizer for herbs, but I save my money. I suppose a bit of fish emulsion fertilizer in water once or twice a month wouldn't hurt. The bottle I have is 5 1 1, if I remember right.
 

housemouse

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Willow said:


Now to my question. Why don't you recommend fertilizing herbs? I am not doubting your advise...just gathering info as this is the first time I have been serious about gardening. I am blessed with A LOT of rabbit poo so I was going to feed the herbs along with the veggies.

If anyone is in the southern tier of NYS I have plenty of bunny berries to share.....along with truck loads of goat and horse manure!

Willow

Hey, Willow... I just might be interested in some of your "black gold"...

And, about not fertilizing herbs. They do best with little or no extra fertilizer. Some plants just do not like too rich a soil. Nasturtiums are an example of that. If you give them too rich a soil, they will give you lots of leaves, and not many blooms.

Most of the herbs we use for seasoning and cooking are called the kitchen herbs, and they mostly come from the mediterranean, kinda hot and dry, with not so rich soil. But, it is important to research the needs of any special herb you are planting, for there are many we plant that have different requirements, such as the mint family, and the echinacea (like a bit more shade then, say basil)

Hope this helps a bit...
 

Willow

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jacquej said:
"Hey, Willow... I just might be interested in some of your "black gold"..."

Just let me know how much you would like. I can save rabbit poo and have 15 years of horse and goat manure. Of course you will have to haul it.

jacquej also said:
"Hope this helps a bit..."

Yes, it does. I have been paying attention to the sun and soil requirements but haven't given one little thought to how much fertilizer each plant might like..or not like. I just figured more is better. I guess I had better do a tiny bit more research.

THANKS!!

Willow
 

housemouse

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Willow, a good place to begin looking for info is to visit the GardenWeb forums. I read as much as I can before trying out advice, because some posters know more than others.

Here is a link to these:

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/

P.S. will get back to you on the "poo" issue. We only have one car, and it is not often at my disposal.
 

Renegade

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doing ok so far

at this point we've canned 14 quarts and 18 pints of squash and 35 quarts and 18 pints of potatoes. Gave away the last picking of squash ( 5 five gallon buckets full).

Snap beans are coming off now and the squash needs picking again.

On top of all that, we butched 50 meat chickens this weekend.

yea....we're tired!

but it's a good kind of tired:D
 

blueberry

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I gathered up the last of the carrots and cabbages that had grown over the winter, and put them in the fridge. The spinach had bolted, so I cleared out the space where the spinach had grown and put in tomato plants.

I tried something new this spring, and planted summer squash a full month before it should be planted. The plants were lucky and did not freeze, but now the plants and the squash are very tiny. I guess I should have waited longer. Oh well... I'll just plant some more :)

I got the first two cucumbers this morning, and the green beans have blossoms - I am really looking forward to fresh green beans.
 

squeeksmom

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Kathy in WV: Ya kinda get used to it. :( I don't buy any seeds over 100 days to harvest, unless I can start them inside. I usually start a BUNCH inside, but this year my mom was sick and I didn't get too many done. I start peanuts, jicama and tobacco in January, transfer anything I can to the greenhouse when it gets "warm" enough that a heater will keep them alive overnight.
It's been 4 nights since we had frost, now just lots of rain, but maybe we're on the downhill slide. Just a few nice days is all I need - if God will give me those, I'll do all the rest of the work. :lol:
 

housemouse

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Re: doing ok so far

Renegade said:
at this point we've canned 14 quarts and 18 pints of squash and 35 quarts and 18 pints of potatoes. Gave away the last picking of squash ( 5 five gallon buckets full).

Snap beans are coming off now and the squash needs picking again.

On top of all that, we butched 50 meat chickens this weekend.

yea....we're tired!

but it's a good kind of tired:D

Geez, here in zone 5, I only have two leaves on my summer squash/zukes! You must be "way down south in Dixie"!
 

Renegade

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Housemouse,
I'm in north Florida, about 30 miles south of the Alabama line. Been 95+ for a while now with hardly no rain (until this afternoon). Hoping for more tomorrow.

Thank God for drip irrigation!
 

Freeholdfarm

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I'm still trying to get things planted. It took a while to get a spot tilled up in the hard clay -- our first year here. Then we had to go get some horse manure from some folks down the road -- it's really nice, at least a year old and just like rich dirt. But not enough to cover the garden a foot deep like I'd like to! So I'm dribbling it on top of the seeds as I plant them. We are in Zone 6 technically, but at 4,000 feet elevation so can get frost any month of the year, so tomatoes and such will have to go in a greenhouse. Anything tender that grows short will have floating row cover on it. We also have a *serious* deer problem here -- counted eight of them walking unconcernedly through our back yard one evening just after dark, and frequently see several in broad daylight. So we'll be putting an eight foot high fence around the garden to supplement the yard fence (which is just to keep the dog in).

Kathleen
 
Well, this is my first year since we have been in GA that I have a garden bigger than just one raised bed 6X6 ft.
Had I know where DH planned to till, and IF he'd told me before hand that we was actually planning to till anywhere this year, I would have thrown the compost on the garden spot to be well beforehand. A couple of problems, the garden spot is way too far out in the field to water with a hose, you have to haul water in 5 gallon buckets, several trips until you have carried about 60 gallons before you can even give the plants a small sip of water. Everything took forever to come up and seems stunted. Poor unfertile ground I believe. I did get a good crop of radish greens and cooked the other day. Carrots seem to be quite happy. Have a few green peas, but they don't look healthy. The green beans are running happily and blooming. Hope I get them before the deer do!
I anticipate next year being much better. I will put compost on the site all winter!!!

For a better note, I planted potatoes in my first year strawberry bed. This bed has nothing except VERY fertile soil and leaf compost in it. You can pull weeds up easily in this soil. well, first time planting white potatoes and they did GREAT! I am impressed with them and they are wonderful. Strange thing though, I noticed several small green tomato looking things hanging from the potato plants after they bloomed. My mother told me about special hybrid plants you can order and plant that grow potatoes underground and tomatoes on top. but, my potato plants were just grocery store potatoes that sprouted, so what's the chance of that?

Vickie
 

Kathy in WV

Down on the Farm...
Vickie,

I've never heard of the hybrid plants you mentioned, but I have planted my tomatoes too close to the potatoes before and had that happen. My grandmother who just died last yr at 96 farmed all her life, and she told me not to plant them close again because they are related and can cross and if they do you get little tomatoes and few potatoes. I'm assuming since she gardened all those years that this is right (unless someone debunks her theory!);) Kathy
 

Willow

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After reading about using tires for planters I stopped at the neighbor's last night...a dairy farmer....and asked her if she had any old tractor tires and she did!!! She will be delivering four of them in the next few days. I am hoping they will be just what I need for my raised beds.

The tires will be my herb garden. Any suggestions on herb combos for each tire? This is all new to me.

I am almost as excited about my old tires as I was a month ago with my mini manure spreader. It's amazing to all my relatives what puts a big smile on my face!!!! They are planning their next shopping spree at all the big name stores at the local mall and I am anxiously waiting for my old tire delivery.

Willow
 

HoofTrimmer

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The Never Ending Battle...

No, not the one for Truth, Justice, and the American Way. The one with the danged pigweed.

I frequently have to work out of town and when I come back the garden is a mass of the evil things. They poke you and stick you and make billions of seeds.

Otherwise we are doing exceptionally well this year. Mostly because we are getting rain.

We are awash in potatoes, turnips, all varieties of summer squash. Just pulled up the last of the beets. Gonna be buried in cabbage and brussels sprouts soon. The onions are ready to gather. Tomatoes are about fist sized. The corn is ready. Sweet potatoes are happy as are the melons and the egg plant.

I am amazed at what can be grown. I am no miracle worker, but just a hard worker. If you are willing to put in sweat equity you will have a decent garden.

HoofTrimmer
 

blueberry

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I just picked my first bucket of green beans :spns:

I have been getting other veggies, but green beans are one of my favorites, and I was really looking forward to them :D
 

Kathy in WV

Down on the Farm...
blueberry,
I'm jealous!!!! All I'm getting so far is squash and cukes. My beans were late getting planted and they're just now big enuf to bloom. (I hope) Meanwhile, my tomatoes are getting bigger and bigger but havent ripened yet. My 6yo son is just dying for that first tomato. In past years, I've found him sitting in the tomato patch eating his little heart out on ripe ones!
 

blueberry

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Now I am jealous!! My tomatoes do not have even a hint of a blossom yet.

I have been getting squash and cukes too. I am just putting them in the fridge, and will do some canning over the weekend.
 

A.T.Hagan

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No vegetable garden this year as I'm still concentrating on the perennial plantings. I do give the future veggie garden site a lick and a promise once in a while.

Finally started raining on June 3rd and it's rained every day but one since then. In fact, I'd be grateful for a few days of dry weather. It's rained so much lately that my potted key lime has toadstools growing in it and that's not good for citrus. I moved it to a spot where it should get more sun and hopefully dry out a bit.

Need to get out and pick the ripe blueberries. The blackberries didn't amount to much. They need a good pruning and some fertilizer.

So far, so good. No real failures so far this year. The grass desperately needs mowing and I don't know when I'm going to be able to do it. Family reunion last weekend and another one plus my sister's wedding this weekend and it's raining every evening when we get home. May have to mow the yard with the bush hog! :lol: Really need to get some fertilizer down now as well since it's raining.

.....Alan.
 

blueberry

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I concentrated on perennial plantings in 1999, and I am so glad I did!

The fruit trees, figs, and asparagus are producing wonderfully. The rhubarb did not make it - just too hot for rhubarb in this part of Texas.

The egyptian onions did well too, but I neglected them, and now I need to get more.

What perennials are you planting, Alan?
 

Just Plain Mom

Alien Lizard Person
Well, I'm a little jealous of all of you! I planted 6/1 but we got another touch of frost on the 10th and some of my transplants (especially the tomatoes and chiles) didn't make it. The green beans were just coming up, so they're OK, as are the zucchinis. I had some tomatoes next to the house in pots, and they survived.

The lettuce and spinach fell victim to my pig of a horse. I had them in pots and covered in chicken wire, but he didn't take the hint and uprooted the wiring. He took a few bites, but the plants are recovering.

*sigh* I thought it was safe...I shoulda known. *whine, whine, whine* Next year I won't transplant until 7/1.
 

Deena in GA

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The garden was doing great until we got the rain I'd been asking for. :( Over a three day period in which it probably only rained a total of less than two hours we got about 8 inches of rain. I'm not sure of the exact amount because the high winds and heavy strong rain blew my rain gauge over so it wasn't sitting straight up. It still registered 7 inches though. This means of course, that my corn is lying on the ground. Today was the first day we haven't had rain and I can see it trying to come back up. Squash needs picked but the ground is still too wet to get out there without sinking in the mud. We had already harvested the potatoes thank goodness. Everything else is coming along good.
 

nchomemaker

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It's very interesting reading through this thread to see the different times when gardens got started. I had a garden for 15 years in upstate N.Y. and planted only peas in April, waited till the middle of May to start the rest. If you love gardening like I do and you have even a remote possibility of moving further south, I say go for it. It's such a blessing to be able to start a garden earlier and to grow things longer in the fall.

Now I'm in N.C. and this is the 4th year I've had a garden. This is the best year. It's the rabbit and chicken manure I've added over the last 4 years and now I'm being rewarded for my labor.
Green beans are doing good even though they are in a part of the garden that didn't get fertilized much.
Tomatoes are doing nicely, still waiting for the first ripe one, I have beefsteak and Romas.
Sweet corn is coming along, I had to replant because I jumped the gun a bit and planted too early and it didn't come up. But now I have 2 different patches, one early and one late.
Herbs are doing good, I love growing herbs and plan on adding more.
Disappointments are the cukes and squash which I planted in a new raised bed in a different location. The dreaded spotted cucumber beetle spread bacterial wilt. I've just replanted more seeds of these in a different area, and hope to get more yields before they succumb to the bugs.
Also I don't know the secrets of growing big onions, even though my sweet Vidalias did well, they didn't get very big.
I like this thread, let's keep it going now that it's later in the season and we are starting to really reap the rewards of our hard labor. Pat each other on the back or sympathize with each other, depending on our situations.
Noone but fellow gardeners understand our passion for it and what it really does take to have a good garden.
 

summerthyme

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Yeah, here just east of Housemouse, it hasn't been great for gardening. WAY too much rain- like, 18" more than usual!

But the garden actually looks pretty good despite that. Lots of organic matter helps, although I don't get as much manure spread on the garden as I'd like. Which is ridiculous, since I live on a dairy farm, and have horses and chickens besides.

The only real problem with fertilizing herbs a lot is that they *may* get too lush and prone to mildew or fungus, especially if you live in a very hot, humid climate. Also, it *may* "dilute" some of the essential oils, and they might not be quite a pungent or potent. But mints and lemon balm and many others thrive in rich soils, so don't worry much about it. Just don't pour on the fertilizer...

Willow- about combinations of herbs... pretty much whatever you think you want to try. As others have said, the mints will spread like crazy (they spread via underground rhizomes), so you want to be careful with them. I stack two smaller tires and plant black peppermint (the most pungent kind- peppermints do NOT breed true, so you need to find plants at a nursery if you want to be sure of getting a "good" type. Snitch a leaf and crush it, then sniff and taste- if it tastes good to you, buy it!) in them- and it has spread a bit, but we mow around the tires, so it can't go far.

Lemon balm will also spread a lot- mostly from seed, though, so if you really don't want lemon balm plants everywhere, just harvest them a couple of times, and once more when they start setting seed. I don't mind- they put seedlings into the lawn and we just mow them. Sometimes I get a clump in a nice spot (I've got two thriving volunteer clumps beside my greenhouse door) and I leave them grow.

Oregano (if you can, buy some seeds of Greek Oregano from Johnny's Select Seeds- it's wonderfully pungent and spicy) will crawl and spread- but pretty slowly. Marjoram has the same type growth habit, but probably won't survive your winters.

Chives (they're available in both onion and garlic flavors) make larger clumps every year, and may put some seedlings out, but they aren't aggressive. They work nicely in the midst of the herb bed- the oreganos can climb around them.

Thymes have similar growth habits to oregano- low and sprawling.

Rosemary is an upright plant- like a small bush- usually. There are some prostrate varieties, but they're rare. Tarragon (you want the FRENCH variety- you'll be disappointed in the Russian) grows almost exactly like Rosemary. Rosemary is a tender perennial- if you want to keep it from year to year, you need to pot it up and bring it inside. I prune mine down hard and stash it in the root cellar for the winter. Others will turn it into a windowsill herb and use it for cooking.

Catnip and spearmint are both taller, more upright growers than peppermint- mine get close to 3 feet tall! You definitely want them in the back of the bed! They both will spread...

Sage is a woody perennial which gets at least 2 feet tall. It doesn't spread very far, and is another which could be planted with some of the crawling low herbs around it.

Parsley is a biennial- it will come back next spring, but only for a few short weeks before it sets seed and then dies. But quite often it will self seed and you'll have more for the next year.

Lovage can be a great herb for seasoning if you've got room. It gets 3-4' tall, and can really grow into a large clump. I'd give it a tire all it's own if you ever start it. It's a perennial and comes back bigger every year. It's wonderful dried in various herb mixtures and an herb salt that I got from an herb book years ago. If I can find the book, I'll post the recipe.

Medicinal herbs are an entire subject to themselves. But two I wouldn't want to be without are skullcap- a perennial which I start from seeds I got at Johnnys. It spreads as well, but is easily eradicated, unlike the mints. It's THE best "nervine" and tranquilizer I've ever found. I've given it or recommnded it to many people over the years, and I don't believe I've ever had anyone tell me that it didn't help.

The other one (there are actually probably a dozen that I simply HAVE TO grow) is Calendula. Also known as Pot Marigold, it's an annual flower that you can grow in your flower beds and no one will ever thing you're growing "medicine". It puts out pretty orange and yellow flowers in various shades from midsummer to frost. The flowers are an excellent anti bacterial- I use them in an "anti infection" soak that I've seen cure some really nasty infections and cellulitis. They are also soothing to the skin, and make a wonderful addiiton to skin creams and lip balms.

And if you can find room, this fall get a few cloves of garlic and plant them. Planted in the fall (probably early-mid September where you are) they'll start growing like crazy in early spring, and will present you with a whole bunch of garlic in mid summer. Harvest them then, stash them someplace cool and dry, and re-plant some for next year. Aside from the culinary values, it's probably THE most potent antibiotic herb around. It's another ingredient in my anti-infective soak.

Have fun!

summerthyme
 
Oh Kathy, I'd love to see what your raised garden beds look like. We were fortunate enough to have some already built by the previous owner/builder. He tiered the land around the house with them using landscape timber, to hold the land in place and at the same time provide perfect gardening conditions.

I agree with the others that you've heard wrong about herb gardens are very easy to care for. One recommendation though... if you plant them in the ground (rather than pots), I'd put them in a "permanent" spot, and keep in mind many of them spread quite a bit. I've been surprised and very tickled at how such a tiny little plant from the greenhouse has prospered into giant bushes a year or two later. And right before a hard freeze hits, I'll go out and cut a bunch of the herbs to dry for use over the winter. Rosemary won't survive here over our winters either.

I would suggest you to put some stakes in by the plants so you know what each plant is; those plastic tags just never survive long. I recycle popcycle sticks and use a permanent marker to mark on them. My hope is to one day be able to produce enough herbs to start selling them at the local farmer's markets, make up tea mixtures, etc. but I don't have a space problem either.

Try adding a few new herbs each year and I think you'll be very pleased. Your tire "beds" would work really well.

NCHomemaker I'm with you - I like this thread and hope to keep learning from each other. I need to ask you all when using manure of any type, is it true you're supposed to wait a year before putting it into your garden soil?

I had to transplant my herb garden to a separate permanent location this year... it started taking over my main garden space. When I did that, I planted my spaghetti and pizza flavored herbs (oregano, basil, etc.) in the same area, and my mints in a separate area... trying to keep "like" things together.

I have much to learn! Sounds like this is the group from which I can learn a lot.
 

squeeksmom

Deceased
NOT DOING FOR GARBAGE!!!

I have over 20,000 square foot of garden space. I lost about a third to frost last night. And there's another frost warning for tonight. sigh :( :mad:
 

Tweakette

Irrelevant
Sorry to hear about the frost. We're in N. Vermont and there have been some night recently that have been touch and go, temperature-wise. It's been cooler than normal here, and kind of wet.

The spinach is bolting, even with the cool temps, but the peas, broccoli, and cabbage are doing well. My beans are up and looking good. I had to mulch the heck out of the tomatos as all this wet weather would give them some nasty leaf spot diseases that we have lurking in our soil. Potatos are up, too.

I had lousy germination on the beets and bok choi in one of the gardens. I don't know if it was old seed or what but the rows were mostly bald and I had to reseed. Then other ones were too thick (lettuce, carrots) and I had to thin them, which I hate doing.

The blackberries are having a rough year - looks like we lost a lot of the plants last year for some reason. The ones still there are producing. The 2 blueberry plants have fruit on them, and I'm getting apples on my 2 trees for the first time, which I'm very excited about.
I lost another peach tree this year, and the pears are growing but not blooming or doing anything other than getting bigger.

I may replace the peach (peaches in VT is a fools errand but I love the fruit so much that I just can't bear to give up) and get a Mount Royal plum for next to it - I have room for one more tree out there as long as it stays small.

Tweak
 
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