How To Deal With A DW Who Doesn't Get It?

Jmurman

Veteran Member
Alright guys, I need some help here.

My wife thinks that I am nuts for my storing of food and other preps. Right now I have about 3 months storage for our family.

I've tried to explain my feelings about this to her...but she doesn't buy into "preparing for another day"

Anybody else have the same thing in your family?

BTW...I WILL NOT stop prepping...I love them too much to do that.
 

VesperSparrow

Goin' where the lonely go
Wait till you have to break into your preps for supper like some of us have and NO money to replace them.
She'll see then.
Its just going to have to take a real experience maybe for her to get it.
Just MO said in love and concern. I think ALOT of people are in for a MAJOR shock real soon. Sadly.
Just pray.
:dstrs:
 

blackguard

Veteran Member
a few suggestions

while I am fortunate to have a wife who is strongly into being prepared I do have several associates who have NSS (non survival spouses, both male and female!) and here is a few of the things they have done.

Ignored the discussion and continued to prep
bought the supplies / equipment under the auspices of "camping gear"
used recent events (Katrina, Rita, bad winter weather, etc) to illustrate how important it is to "plan a little ahead'
used the government sponsored Public Service Announcements to illustrate the advice of TPTB in the necessity of prepping


I sincerly hope one or more of those help, I know how hard it is to prep with a spouse that IS like minded, one that isn't ? yikes...

Hang in there bro, you are doing it for the right reasons, don't doubt that.
 

blueberry

Inactive
Jmurman said:
BTW...I WILL NOT stop prepping...I love them too much to do that.

Well said, Jmurman!!

Of course, you have to keep prepping - and I hope she soon sees the wisdom in your prepping.
 

MataPam

Veteran Member
My DH never actually discussed my shopping habits, just dropped the odd "joke" and so forth.

When he started hyperventalating about Hurricane Rita I said, "Well no problem about food, we're good for months," and put him to work topping off water containers.

Haven't had a sarcastic comment about "How are you going to fit that into the pantry" or "Oh, sale on soups today, I see." since then. :D
 

PilotFighter

Bomb & Bullet Technician
Send her down here to spend hurricane season with me. When the power is off for 3 to 4 weeks and she is living like a king, then she will change her tune real quick. My wife used to be the same way. Then after a few good storms, there was no more fuss. Now she packs home more food than I do.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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I guess it depends... is she in denial? Totally oblivious to many people's reality every day NOW- as in, not having enough money to pay the bills, buy the food they'd like and have basic medical care? Do you do so well as a couple financially that she simply can't imagine it ever NOT being there?

If she's reasonably intelligent and able to understand basic economic theories (including the difference between "price inflation" and "money supply inflation", you may be able to show her some of the stories that came out of Argentina in the past few years. Zimbabwe is another excellent example, but one which will be harder for many Americans to empathize with. Argentina... if they can just grasp that the people who were searching the dumpsters and gutters for trash to sell so they could buy enough food for supper were the MIDDLE CLASS - with a very similar, comfortable lifestyle to yours now- until their economy crashed (due in great part to too much debt, both private and governmental).... it may sink in that it's possible here.

If she's actually in denial (the Scarlett O'Hara syndrome)... forget it. Nothing anyone can say will change her mind.. because she refuses to let it be changed. Unfortunately, people like that often don't deal well if hard times come... and you may need to be prepared for her blaming you for the hard times, because you saw they were possible and tried to prepare! No, it's not logical... but it's a definite possibility.

If it helps, I'm a farmer, and I'm as prepared as I can be, for our extended family, and for 2 years of basics. The grain situation in this country, and the world, isn't good. It would only take ONE year of bad crops in more than one major grain growing country for the world to see major shortages. Governments simply don't HAVE grain storage any longer- the US government doesn't, for sure, and most others don't. China may... they seem to see clearer than many how bad things may possibly get. (or they may be planning on MAKING things get bad.. and preparing in advance)

All it would take is one major volcanic eruption.. and a repeat of "the year without a summer" in the 1800's, where ash blocked the sun, Europe saw snow in every month of the year, and the US saw similar conditions... and we'd be facing major, total crop failures.

You have kids? If she doesn't even see the value of being certain that the kids wouldn't be crying in hunger, and the cupboards bare... I don't know what would bring her around.

Good for you... do what you feel needs to be done. I think it's important for spouses to be on the same page in prepping, but it's not always possible. It IS your responsibility to take care of your family. hopefully it won't take some really hard times for her to realize how valuable what you are doing for them is...

Summerthyme
 

eileen

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Your wife is a lucky woman in that respect, she just doesn't know it yet.
How I wish my husband were like you. I feel so insecure,
because all I can do is buy food, batteries, etc. He is totally
not interested. He thinks God will take care of us. I don't think
He takes care of us in that way, otherwise I would not have to
lift a finger to do anything! :lol:
 

Robin Hood

Veteran Member
Ditto for me Jmurman. My wife thinks I'm doom and gloom and has pretty much convinced my "kids" of the same. She is in denial that anything realy bad is going to happen. Since she is the one who buys the groceries and does the cooking, it makes the prep work somewhat difficult but I do it anyway. A friend of mine and myself bought heavily into y2k preps and have stored wheat and other dry goods in nitrogen packs buckets. I'm restaulking the other "normal" preps now. Would be real nice if she was along with this but I'll take the domestic heat even if it is sometimes a lonely vigil. Hang in there, thats what it means to "lead" the family.


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drafter

Veteran Member
My wife thinks I'm nutty, but is a little more supportive with the "bird flu" hype going around. She also thought I was crazy when I was "wasting" money buying silver bullion at $4.50 an ounce also. Actually she still bugs me about the silver since she says I'll never sell any of it.
 

housemouse

Membership Revoked
Jmurman said:
Alright guys, I need some help here.

My wife thinks that I am nuts for my storing of food and other preps. Right now I have about 3 months storage for our family.

I've tried to explain my feelings about this to her...but she doesn't buy into "preparing for another day"

Anybody else have the same thing in your family?

BTW...I WILL NOT stop prepping...I love them too much to do that.

Tell her that you and I are going to trade spouses for a month? Just so I can get some help with a lovely husband who is too tired and sick to prep. She can put up with him for a month, having a pleasant "care-taking" job.

You and I can get my homestead up to par. Let's face it, some of the prep jobs are a bit hard for a 60-some old woman to do...

See if that motivates her to keep you at home?
 
Ask her to submit to an experiment.

Then hide/lock up her purse and car keys, and turn the power and water off in the house for a day.

See what she thinks after that.

For bonus points, don't ask her first :lol:
 

Deena in GA

Administrator
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Show her today's bird flu thread that includes and article about this in the second post:

{Some 13,000 people were quarantined in a quarter of the Romanian capital Bucharest as troops and police sealed off streets in response to the city's second bird flu outbreak, officials said.

22/05/2006 22:31

The mayor of the southern fourth district, Adrian Inimaroiu, said residents would be cut off and all businesses in the area would be closed during the quarantine period of up to three weeks.}

It could just as easily be your city and neighborhood. Can she imagine being cut off from everything with no notice for up to 21 days?
 

Frogger

Inactive
My son and I had the same problem back in 1998. We went ahead and did it without her help or understanding. Now, as the world situation worsens, she is beginning to understand the "balancing act" that our supply system is in.

Go for it. Why not! You can always use it.

Want to try it? Refuse to let her go to the grocery store for two weeks. After the phone book gets used for TP, maybe she will understand.

Good luck and don't stop.
 

Jmurman

Veteran Member
My wife spends a great deal of time raising our two children. We have a daughter that is a hyper 5yo and my son who is almost 6 months. Now my wife is fairly young (compared to me :-) and hasn't known or seen bad times.

I lived through the gas crunches of the 70's and the Viet-Nam era...been there and done that.

My wife has complete run of the house...she wants to paint a room...go right ahead, move furniture...knock yourself out. But when it comes to my shop...you're entering my domain.

So she went last night to move the large Maple wood storage compartment into another room. This storage unit was filled with prep foods. Naturally she tried to "re-arrainge it"

Whats with women that like to re-arrainge stuff? Is it in your genetics or something?

Thats when she saw the individual preps...she hasn't inquired about the orange paint buckets with the screw on lids which are filled and stacked. :-)

Anyway, I was straight up with her about it...I simply said that this is for hard times and not for daily use..although we certainly rotate out for daily use when needed. I also told her that she knows my mind-set.

I have talked to her...briefly, very briefly, about my views on the economy or bird-flu, war etc. I don't like to lay alot of heavy stuff on her as I don't think that she would be able to handle this kind of reality....until it actually happens. I do let her read the book I am writing and that scares her.

My wife is really wonderful and I certainly do get no hassle from her at all for most things.
 

Fuzzychick

Membership Revoked
BTDT and it took the ex getting laid off for awhile to grasp the concept. I always received the sniping remarks "Why do you need 50# of beans and rice...feeding Africa?" His comments quickly became..."Look what my wife is doing, if you ever need anything, come on over." Needless to say I don't have to deal with that baloney anymore. Just keep on prepping, she'll get the pic one day...hopefully not WTSHTF.;)
 

MaxTheKnife

Membership Revoked
Ignore her and do what you know to be right. I won't say anything about who wears the pants in your family or some shit like that. :lol:
 

Zen

Membership Revoked
Congratulations! You're one of the few men who are doing what men (fathers and husbands) are supposed to do....look at the big picture and act to protect the family, EVEN IF the family thinks you're crazy, and they usually will.

It's impossible to explain "preps" to people who do not want to "get it". Few do!
Most people's fragile "sanity" is dependent on denial of facts and truth.

It might help to tell her what you've said here....... "It's because I love you and want to protect you from the hard times many people think are coming."

Maybe engage her a bit in the decision making by asking, "What 'luxury' would you like to have if things became really scarce? Hot chocolate? hard candy? Flavored coffee? Twinkies (shelf life four centuries if the mice don't get them)? That way she'll perhaps understand you are doing it with her in mind.

Peace! Zen
 

Jmurman

Veteran Member
MaxTheKnife said:
Ignore her and do what you know to be right. I won't say anything about who wears the pants in your family or some shit like that. :lol:

In my previous marraige I would have just ignored her and done my thing...I guess now it's important to have her understand WHY I am doing what I am doing. She might not agree, but one day...and you know I hope that day NEVER comes...but if/when it does, we'll be better off than most who haven't prepped.
 

nharrold

Deceased
[FONT=Verdana,Arial]"Governments simply don't HAVE grain storage any longer- the US government doesn't, for sure, and most others don't. China may... they seem to see clearer than many how bad things may possibly get. (or they may be planning on MAKING things get bad.. and preparing in advance)"

You know, when even gummints can't figure out the need to prep, it's really depressing. Take my wife...please! (Thanks, Henny.) She's a WNGI; a "Will Never Get It". She's the type who thinks that if I talk about prepping, or the possibility of something happening, then I'm gonna MAKE it happen. And no, I'm not kidding about that. How a reasonably intelligent person can, at the same time, be so damn stupid, is beyond me. And if and when the roof does fall in, she'll find some way to blame me for making it happen...and for not having enough stuff to see us through the emergency.

Makes me think that I'm living in "interesting times", as the Chinese say.
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Tundra Gypsy

Veteran Member
Since my DH has never experienced a major disruption of anything, or ever done without; he feels NOTHING is going to happen to change the way he lives.

Anyone want my sheeple DH?? I'll throw in his new tractor. He refuses to listen to me or allow me to purchase prep items. If I could find some guy near by where we live, who was into prepping I know my DH would listen to him. He is totally hopeless; won't budge on any issues or try to think things through; he refuses to hear anything negative. He won't watch t.v. about the war in Iraq or any negative news; won't listen to me when I talk about things he considers 'negative'; he'll walk out of the room. It is kinda like he's five and I want to talk about the boogieman and he doesn't want to hear anything and runs out of the room....that's the kind of person he is......any prepping info is like talking about the boogieman.....geez.
 

stimpy17

Contributing Member
Cancel her auto insurance, the home insurance and all health insurance. Don't lock your doors at night. Because if nothing bad has ever happened before that means that nothing bad will happen in the future.
 

Lilbitsnana

On TB every waking moment
DH has always "humored" me with my prepping. He knew I had a lot, but not exactly how much until this month. We are getting ready to move as soon as the house sells, and even I was surprised at how much I had. At first he was not happy (mostly when picking up an unusually heavy box ;) ); but when I suggested getting rid of some of it he said "no".

He said "a year ago, who would have thought New Orleans would be devastated by a hurricane like it was", so no, he just wants me to not get more than I have room for. He did suggest maybe building me a "storm/storage" shelter/room at the new place. :lol: That way, I will not have to have so much in the house.

He is still not "there" yet, but he is on his way to being a GI, instead of a DGI. :lol:
 

Unique

Inactive
One of my friends lines..


Your only a nutcase until the you know what hits the fan.. then your just prepared!



If you should ever lose your job that food will help ease some worries.;)
 

vulcan

Inactive
It takes awhile. My wife used to be a DGI and a DWTHAI (don't want to hear about it). I prep by myself. Once in awhile she needs something in the middle of cooking or when stores are all closed. I get the item from the stash and ask guess where it came from?

The real eye opener for her was 9/11 and the blackout shortly after. Scenes from katrina finally drove home the point.

Once upon a time anyone prepping was a paranoid right wing wacko....now your government wants you to prep....go figure...
 

housemouse

Membership Revoked
Jmurman said:
My wife spends a great deal of time raising our two children. We have a daughter that is a hyper 5yo and my son who is almost 6 months. Now my wife is fairly young (compared to me :-) and hasn't known or seen bad times.

I lived through the gas crunches of the 70's and the Viet-Nam era...been there and done that.

My wife has complete run of the house...she wants to paint a room...go right ahead, move furniture...knock yourself out. But when it comes to my shop...you're entering my domain.

So she went last night to move the large Maple wood storage compartment into another room. This storage unit was filled with prep foods. Naturally she tried to "re-arrainge it"

Whats with women that like to re-arrainge stuff? Is it in your genetics or something?

Thats when she saw the individual preps...she hasn't inquired about the orange paint buckets with the screw on lids which are filled and stacked. :-)

Anyway, I was straight up with her about it...I simply said that this is for hard times and not for daily use..although we certainly rotate out for daily use when needed. I also told her that she knows my mind-set.

I have talked to her...briefly, very briefly, about my views on the economy or bird-flu, war etc. I don't like to lay alot of heavy stuff on her as I don't think that she would be able to handle this kind of reality....until it actually happens. I do let her read the book I am writing and that scares her.

My wife is really wonderful and I certainly do get no hassle from her at all for most things.

First thing is that you totally and completely love her. That is the most important thing you can do to make your children feel secure in life.

About preparing, take it ever so slowly. Most women fear a shop, or store, not having what they want when they get there, whether it is card or cash in their sweet, tender, but fragrant hands.

Ask her to buy stuff for you, like coffee, peanut butter, or whatever she knows floats your boat, and keep a "rotated" stash on hand, just in case, because you are afraid of some disruption in the supply line...

Wonder aloud, not too often, about what would happen if ::: toilet paper, chocolate, paper towels, eggs, milk, peanut butter, bread, orange juice, bikini wax, or whatever you know she worries about running out of, and is willing to make a special trip to get:::: gets messed up by our fragile inventory systems... running around from here to there is such a major pain... The Christmas toy mess is a decent example.

Slowly get her mind turned around to the fallacy of "Just-In-Time" inventories. Maybe it will be clothes for the kids that might not be in stores, readily available. Maybe you need to buy her a sewing machine, fabric, and lessons, just in case she can't buy "cute" clothes in the local chain stores? Focus on making sure she learns some basic skills, like sewing, knitting, gardening, bread-baking, canning, and chicken-keeping.

But, be fair about this, and you start worrying yourself about how to make shoes for those growing little feet! Look up local shoemakers, and find out who might give you shoe-making lessons! Otherwise, you are just breathing "fire and smoke" on her, and not really doing your half of the work involved in being totally prepared. The best thing you can do is set a good example, and not pile on your wife.

I guarantee you, if you work your "tush" off, helping her with the little ones, and get her proper equipment for preps, and then learn how to help her gain household skills, completely sharing the "scut" workload, you will be paid off, "big-time", and be setting a great example for your children about how a family is supposed to work together!
 

KateCanada

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Tundra Gypsy said:
Since my DH has never experienced a major disruption of anything, or ever done without; he feels NOTHING is going to happen to change the way he lives.

Anyone want my sheeple DH?? I'll throw in his new tractor. He refuses to listen to me or allow me to purchase prep items. If I could find some guy near by where we live, who was into prepping I know my DH would listen to him. He is totally hopeless; won't budge on any issues or try to think things through; he refuses to hear anything negative. He won't watch t.v. about the war in Iraq or any negative news; won't listen to me when I talk about things he considers 'negative'; he'll walk out of the room. It is kinda like he's five and I want to talk about the boogieman and he doesn't want to hear anything and runs out of the room....that's the kind of person he is......any prepping info is like talking about the boogieman.....geez.

OMG.........You have just described my Dh to a TEE! He gave all the garden seeds I had stocked to a friend of his for helping him with some work. :kk1:
 

housemouse

Membership Revoked
Now I am thinking hard...

Could it be that Somebody Upstairs marries preppers to non-preppers to make sure that families have at least one who is ready for whatever comes down the pike?

Not to mention the benefits to the next generation of maybe having a "prep" gene passed along to a few of the offspring...
 

pandora

Membership Revoked
My DH is totally into it now & even helps out with the prepping. But it took Hurricane Rita hitting us for him to come around. We listened to all the DGI's calling the radio station wondering when stores would open up, and this was day 1 of the hurricane. Ofcourse we were fine with plenty of food, water, batteries, candles, etc. We even had plenty of gas although none was to be found for days. Ofcourse, we didn't need it because we never had to leave our house. ;)

Unfortunately, it may take a slight disaster for the DGI's to get it. Same with my Dad, he no longer laughs at me for storing water.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Hubby supports me and is more convinced every day (as more and more of the economic stuff I've been warning about comes true) that I'm absolutely sane.

His "issues" come in with the sheer amount of things like wheat and rice are stored in our basement. But I'm not prepping for only the two of us... I'm prepping in case something requires all 4 grown kids- plus spouses or SO's- to also be supported from the stash.

And he's perfectly supportive of my various homesteading projects (of course, with the number of hours I put in- and always have- on the farm, with everything from delivering calves to baling hay, he'd BETTER help with stuff like gardens! LOL!). He's come to realize how important it is to have our food supply secured, and after we prepped for Y2k, while he made a few comments, they mostly stopped when he realized that the "extras" I'd stocked- oil and filters for the tractors, bolts, all the basics- saved him hours of time running to town. He now buys extras himself, and keeps at least one "extra" of most replacement parts and maintenence parts on hand.

Even when he didn't "get it", he figured that if it kept me happy and secure... I could have lots worse hobbies!

Summerthyme
 

barb43

Membership Revoked
Jmurman, it's great that you are interested in explaining to your DW at all! Keep feeding a little info at a time . . . she'll probably come around eventually.

Sweetie was skeptical before Y2K, but the more he read and thought it over, the more he decided he'd rather our household was prepped than not, so he became very supportive and even helpful. We went through the food after Y2K and just started stocking back up the first of this year -- we don't have really long term storage (tho' we have a little bit of freeze dried), but we're up to 3 months or more now. I'm grateful for him, believe me!

Even DS pretty much "gets it" - he used to laugh when he was in gradeschool and his friends would come over to the house and find cabinets full of food. Now, if a friend walks into the laundry room and starts rooting around in the pantry, DS (at 17) calmly says, "take your hands off of that, it's not for you."
 

mbabulldog

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Katrina, and the govt F-CK UP that followed, were a blessing in assisting my wife in coming "over to the dark side".
 

Pineapple

Membership Revoked
My hubby gives me the eye once in a while BUT,
he knows that I worry aboutthings alot, especially the welfare of my family.
He also knows, that by permitting me ( it IS his money lol) to prep, I have a little bit of control over what happens to us, that I get a sense of peace. It is worth it to him that I feel secure and not worry so much.

The big thing is staying within our budget. If my prepping caused us a financial hardship, he might not be supportive, but I dont prep as much as others here do, so my spending is under control.
 

CanadianGuy

Veteran Member
I have the same problem with my wife and have had a few arguments over it. I will continue trying to do as much as I can. I cannot even buy somthing while I have one of my 4 children with me, as they will let her know.
 
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