[HLTH] Avian Flu World's No. 1 Threat, CDC Head Says (72% mortality rate!)

JohnGaltfla

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Feb 21, 2:07 PM (ET)

By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Correspondent

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Avian flu poses the single biggest threat to the world right now and health officials may not yet have all the tools they need to fight it, the head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on Monday.

Vaccine efforts are still focused on garden-variety influenza, which kills 36,000 Americans every year, and it would be impossible, in case of an avian flu epidemic, to switch gears quickly to make a special avian flu vaccine, CDC Director Dr. Julie Gerberding said.

"This is a very ominous situation for the globe," Gerberding told a meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, calling it the "most important threat that we are facing right now."

"I think we can all recognize a similar pattern probably occurred prior to 1918," she said, referring to the 1918 pandemic of influenza, which also passed from birds to people and killed between 20 million and 40 million people globally.

The H5N1 avian flu, which first appeared in Hong Kong in 1997 and has since popped up twice, is evolving and can jump directly from birds to people, killing an estimated 72 percent of diagnosed victims, Gerberding said. Officials have documented 45 deaths so far from avian flu.

Gerberding said influenza was far more infectious than severe acute respiratory syndrome or SARS, which swept out of China in 2003, killing 800 people and causing global concern before it was stopped.

Health experts have also pointed out influenza kills much faster than diseases such as AIDS, taking tens of millions of lives in the space of weeks or months.

The "high season" for the avian flu was just starting in Asia, Gerberding said.

"We have this highly pathogenic strain circulating widely in poultry and ducks. There are really wonderful opportunities for this virus to either reassort (mix) with human strains of influenza or with other avian species," she said.

Hong Kong authorities stopped H5N1 in 1997 by sacrificing much of the poultry population in the territory. That was harder to do now that it had spread to Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia and other countries, Gerberding said.

"People depend on poultry for their livelihoods and for feeding their families," she said.

DEPENDING ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR

The U.S. government contracted with two companies that already make flu vaccine -- Chiron Corp. and Sanofi Aventis to make an avian flu vaccine, which will begin testing in people later this year.

But this year's influenza vaccine shortage caused by contamination problems at Chiron's British plant showed how tenuous vaccine-making capability was, Gerberding said. Only three companies make influenza vaccine for the U.S. market.

"There is no wiggle room here," she said. Making an avian flu vaccine in case of an outbreak would be faster than starting from scratch, she said. "But we just don't have the surge capacity to produce both."

So avian flu vaccine would be rationed.

"The very first doses would target the place where the outbreak is occurring," Gerberding told reporters. Health officials would use a "ring vaccination" strategy similar to that used to eradicate smallpox in the 1960s and 1970s, where exposed people and those around them are vaccinated.

People transmit flu before they become ill themselves so it would be almost impossible to stop it by watching or isolating sick people, Gerberding said.

Health experts are working to learn as much as they can about avian flu, such as doing blood surveys of healthy people in avian flu-affected areas.

"Are there people who have been exposed to the avian virus who have not gotten ill so we know what the true denominator is?" she asked.


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Housecarl

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72% mortality rate??!! I was just talking ot a coworker this week about a book I had read years ago, The Earth Abides, deals with a viral pandemic, something like measles. He had just gotten ahold of a copy of a Jack London story on the same premise. Scary stuff.
 

JohnGaltfla

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Housecarl said:
72% mortality rate??!! I was just talking ot a coworker this week about a book I had read years ago, The Earth Abides, deals with a viral pandemic, something like measles. He had just gotten ahold of a copy of a Jack London story on the same premise. Scary stuff.

The worst part of it is that it is impossible to kill every bird which could be a carrier nor block it from coming here from overseas.

We could be looking at an event similar to the flu outbreak from 1919-1920. Which would mean millions of deaths.
 
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ReadyAngel

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72% Mortality Rate

"We have this highly pathogenic strain circulating widely in poultry and ducks. There are really wonderful opportunities for this virus to either reassort (mix) with human strains of influenza or with other avian species," she said.

I find it odd the word "Wonderful" is in this sentence. :eek:
 

LilRose8

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I just finished a great book on this subject called PANDEMIC by Danial Kalla.....it is a novel about bioterrorism and a deliberately mutated strain of flu virus that is planted in different cities around the world......very scary.....worth a read.
 

Double_A

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72% mortality rate? I'm wondering if it's that high due to inadequate/ineffective medical care and what would it be in a western country with better medical care?

I've been told that when the mortality rates get that high the risk of world wide pandemic is lower..people simply die faster than it can spread.
 

American Rage

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One of the interesting thing about this is that just yesterday the "Daily Oklahoman" newspaper ran a front page story in the Sunday Edition concerning the pandemic of 1918. Current theory is that it was a bird flu that jumped from chickens to humans along the Oklahoma/Kansas border. After that it spread to the Army's training camps that existed at that time in Oklahoma and Kansas. Afterwards, it went with the troops to Europe where it spread back to the US and and all over the world. That flu is believed to have killed 100,000,000 people.

Scary stuff!


Rage
 

astrogirl

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I fear that the WHO is a year too early in panicking over the bird flu. There's so much news and hype by now, that if it doesn't start to spread west this season, people will forget about it by the time it does, and they'll take the *real* news less seriously. Crying wolf and all that.
 

Fuzzychick

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Astrogirl, just speculation here but The WHO, has already sounded the alarm! It is just of matter of when it jumps species to species.....pig to human or bird to human. :rolleyes:
 
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Beetree

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There must be a lot of Theories.

American Rage said:
One of the interesting thing about this is that just yesterday the "Daily Oklahoman" newspaper ran a front page story in the Sunday Edition concerning the pandemic of 1918. Current theory is that it was a bird flu that jumped from chickens to humans along the Oklahoma/Kansas border. After that it spread to the Army's training camps that existed at that time in Oklahoma and Kansas. Afterwards, it went with the troops to Europe where it spread back to the US and and all over the world. That flu is believed to have killed 100,000,000 people.

Scary stuff!


Rage

There must be a lot of theories because, one of the theories is that mobilized soldiers in Kansas inhaled smoke from the burning manure of hogs in the stockyards. These soldiers became sick then carried the germs(?) overseas, spreading the virus over the globe before other infected soldiers brought the same sickness back to the United States. (from article by Marlene Womack) The article also said: Those afflicted spread the virus through coughing, spitting, sneezing, and just breathing. They experienced raging frever, nosebleeds and some had their hair turn white from the high temperatures of their bodies.

Are the above the symptoms of BIRD FLU? I have not read anything concerning the symptoms of Bird Flu. Has anyone been able to find out the SYMPTOMS of this terrible ravage that is SUPPOSEDLY coming OUR way? Funny how they always leave out the most important thing: THE SYMPTOMS
 

Beetree

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Amen

American Rage said:
Beetree,

That many theories simply means that nobody knows for sure.


Rage

Amen. I pray that the disease is gone forever. Go away BAD disease! And go away :turk2: BIRD FLU!!
 

marieb

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Now is the time to get your ozone generator and learn how to use it. It will kill airborne viruses and bacteria in a sickroom. I got mine from Bruce Beach's group buy.
 

Fuzzychick

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marieb said:
Now is the time to get your ozone generator and learn how to use it. It will kill airborne viruses and bacteria in a sickroom. I got mine from Bruce Beach's group buy.


What is an ozone generator.......and where can I find one?
 
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