…… Help Plan A Class With TIK

TIK

Inactive
Hello Fellow Smart People....wait a second...that's inferring that I actually am smart...which I'm not...

HELLO SMART PEOPLE THAT I WISH I COULD BE MORE LIKE!!!

I have a very unique opportunity that has presented itself to me, and I would like to engage the assistance of my brethren and sisterage here on TB2K. Here's the scoop...

State Farm Insurance holds "Employee Work/Life Learning Opportunities" for their people throughout the year. My SIL is high up enough on the chain at corporate that she was asked for her input as to what would be a good class to hold for the folks at SF. And of course, she volunteered ME to come talk about Emergency Preparedness for the Average Joe. COOL!! I can do that--and I can come with the public safety/911 background I have to give me credibility (because God knows I need ALL THE CREDIBILITY I CAN GET!!! :whistle:), plus the fact that I love the topic as well as being well-trained in talking to large groups of people (years and years of running a marching band design business where I write shows and teach snot-nosed high school kids how to march...yeah...I'm a band geek...WHAT OF IT!? :smkd:)

So....I have to come up with a 90-minute presentation. Of course I can do it on my own, but I thought it would be wise to ask the question...

If YOU had to do the class, what would you want to make sure you talked about?

Also--I would love to give out some handouts, and heck, even put together a simple Powerpoint. Again, if you have any links to resources that I might be able to consider to be able to either give the links to students, or have handouts from stuff you know of on the internet, feel free to post.

I'd love for this to be a fun activity for us--and of course, during my presentations, I'll give FULL credit to the Timebomb2000!

Thanks for considering...and for helping...y'all are the best.
 

compchyk

The Computer Chyck
Tik, I do IT emergency and contingency planning.

Our favorite question is:
You have a business to run, all IT facilities are sitting in ONE building, take building and put an X over it.

And we would have to answer the "Now What?"

I know a bit too deep for Joe SixPack, but that'll give them the shock of the century...........

The Compchyk
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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TIK, start by PMing Shane and JC Refuge for their info. Oh, I almost forgot - PM SurvivalRing too.
 

Tundra Gypsy

Veteran Member
Check with your local Red Cross for handouts and perhaps they'll come up with some 'goodies' for the folks to take home too. Keep to the basics for folks who have never prepared for anything.

First thing, you might ask the class if anyone has ever prepared for earthquakes anything, and if anyone has a 72-hour bag in their vehicles or homes. You'll get a good idea of who you are talking to then.

Then, Keep It Simple......:)
 

nanna

Devil's Advocate
I think that kindness, common humanity so to speak (like accomodating pets) is an interesting issue which should be addressed.

It must be difficult treating people as folks rather than collertal in an evacuation, yet seems to me this could be a pivotal factor in success.


nanna/my 2 cents
 

day late

money? whats that?
TIK,

The very first thing I would tell them is that when TSHTF, what you have is what you've got. No running to wally world, no quick dash to the food store, no fast fill ups at the shop and rob. What you have is what you've got. What you don't have is what will make you suffer. Look at what happens every year around this time in the Gulf States.
 

Milk-maid

Girls with Guns Member
What to do in case of a pandemic. My favorite topic....how about something like alternative medicine? Do you know anything about all that? What to do when there is no doctor.

MM
 

Freeholder

This too shall pass.
I think I would introduce the topic with a few of the reasons why a person might need to be prepared -- you won't have to look hard to find a few recent examples, and being in California, of course earthquakes and fires are always a threat. And of course most people are aware that the economy is shakey, so you could mention the effects that a shut-off of fuel could have, too.

Then just go on to the basics of being prepped. The basic needs for survival (air, shelter, water, food, protection) and how to meet them; communications; planning; keeping important documents safe; financial planning (keeping cash and PM's on hand); and so on.

You know, there's that website that was put up by the guy who survived Katrina -- http://www.theplacewithnoname.com/blogs/klessons/ He's got a lot of good ideas.

I wouldn't get too much into stuff like foraging for wild foods, or anything like that, just the basics. But do go beyond 72-hour bags! And encourage people to think about the possible need for fallout shelters, too -- even if we never had nukes on our own soil, we could get fallout from overseas if some got used over there.

Kathleen
 

Dixielee

Veteran Member
http://www.abysmal.com/LDS/Preparedness/Preparedness.pdf

I printed this out (122 pages) and had it bound at Kinko's. It has a world of good info in it. It may not be any new information for old preppers, but it has some good ways to get started if you have not already. It also has a 52 week plan for stocking up with common grocery items.

Good luck, 90 minutes sounds like a long time, but if you have plenty of audio visuals, scenarios, maybe round table discussions, it will fly by and you will be wondering why you couldn't give all the info you wanted to.
 

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
Typical food preparation in lieu of the challenges of a loss of refrigeration. This might save a few from eating the effects of spoiled food.

Water purification. Personal filters, boiling, makeshift means of distilling water or preparing pouch type just add water to re-hydrate meals.

What forms of communication to rely upon in the first panic moments of any large spread crisis. Last earthquake here in the LA Basin early last month, Cellphones communication was limited to text only.

Dead drop communications, pre spotted places where physical notes may be left to be found by those who would attempt to pick up the evacuees trail. Monuments, indicating same. Or pre-arranged meeting places between parties.

Or one of my patented techniques (kidding, no patent) for determining the location of a scent noted. Scrunch up some dry leaves or grass and hold in your hand over head off to the side and sprinkle to determine local wind pattern if you are avoiding some form of airborne nuisance unseen. (L.A.B. note) I recently determined the location of a leaky chemical tank on the waterfront using this technique. People who witness me doing this thought I was a Boy Scout. Had to confess I only went "Cub"-Scout. What-ever, I looked better in that navy blue uniform anyway.

Use of Signal mirrors, whistles, compass, FRS radio, without giving out too much personal info. How not to get bit by a dog, or help "find" one. For young people, if traveling on foot travel in numbers.

I think I run out of rambling ideas TIK. Can I go now...?
 

ofuzzy1

Just Visiting
Simple things need to be reivewed.

Enough food, water and staples [tp, ...]

This photo drives the point home: [I took it - you can use it.]

groceryemptyshelves.jpg


http://ofuzzy1.com/shopping.htm

A hand operated can opener is a must. :eek:
Stocking up on water is easy: just rinse your 2l soda & juice bottles, refill and put ONE drop of 'pure' bleach then store. Replace the water every year -- to make stored water taste good, shake / pour back and forth between containers - it re-areates it.

Vitamins & bug spray / repellent are a must.

Do not drive around to sight-see after an 'event' -- you will need your fuel later as gas stations may not be open for a while.

If you have a genny, run it only long enough to keep your freezer frozen. Once in the morning and in the evening, about 3-4 hours per day.
Change the oil ever 12-20 hours [ read the directions] Share the power with your neighbors, it goes a long way to making friends. I shared my gas and oil with my neighbors when my genny failed.
Chain down your genny. :(
DO NOT OPERATE THE GENNY IN YOUR HOUSE, PATIO OR GARAGE !! You will become a statistic.

Double check this via the web.
How to purify water: 8 drops of 5% 'pure' bleach per gallon for 'clean' water, double for murky water. Let sit for 2+ hours. --- I let it sit for 4 hours when possible. The regular Brita / PUR filters will not make undrinkable water safe to drink!

Avoid Candles and other open flames in the house to avoid burning your house down.

That's all for now. See my website for other comments.
 

Trailboss

Contributing Member
I can't claim to be one of those smart people but...

Here is my 2 cents worth. I would spend a minute talking about what happens when people don't prepare. 911 why didn't people leave the building? Katrina why didn't people leave?

1. They don't believe anything could happen
2. They think someone else like gov has everything covered.
3. They don't have a personal plan.

I would explain that people during a crisis "Freeze up" and sit and do nothing, without a personal plan or military training which will actually over ride the "freeze". Since we don't all have the training the plan is necessary.

I would also add something about critical time is lost during this "freezing up" time where decisions need to be made and action taken.

Then I might say something about even a great plan is useless without the skills and supplies necessary to carry it out.

Most people are not used to thinking outside the box. I would add a few 'what if' you can't get this.... but wouldn't this work type examples.

Such as if you know you need to store water and have 30 min to do so but have no containers. Get food grade plastic bags put them inside pillowcases and fill with water. A small tube could be used to siphon the water out. No small tubing....maybe you won't need your cars wind shield washer in the near future. Stuff like that.

I have a personal belief that if you give intelligent people all the information they need without the liberal sprinkling of foo foo dust. They will make intelligent decisions. Definitions of foo foo dust: Vague watered down details implying this isn't really anything you have to worry about.
 

TIK

Inactive
Fantastic fantastic awesome ideas!!!

Thank you--and yes...I should have done one more thing to give you all a heads up about WHO I am talking to. I mean, I did say I was talking to a bunch of corporate insurance people. But these PROBABLY are DGI's....times a million. I don't expect a "hostile" crowd, but I DO expect some folks to be checking their watches with the same thoughts..."This doesn't apply to me because it'll never happen here..."

Great ideas...so yes, KISS method WILL be employed. Got ya all on that. Great ideas....thank you!!!!!
 

FollowTruth

Phantom Lurker
The following blog post has some great information for DGIs. It was found on the Prepare Today Newsletter blog.


Prepare Today Newsletter said:
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How prepared are you for an EVENT CASCADE? "What's an Event Cascade?", you ask.

Read on. . .

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ARE YOU PREPARED FOR A DISASTER?

By Jane M. Hawley​


Trained by the American Red Cross to lead Disaster Action Teams, and by FEMA as a member of CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) in our area, and having observed the disasters and conditions in the world which bring alarm, I write this article in hopes that I might encourage others to become better prepared. I would propose this question: "How will you feel when others who depend on you suffer needlessly because you did not take preventative measures against disaster? I would like to share the following experience as an example where disaster planning could have made the difference:

During July of 2007, in an area right outside of St. George, Utah, we had an experience that has caused me great concern about disaster preparedness. A lightening storm bolted through the tinder-dry mountainous region 3 miles east of our home. The forest fire threatened the power lines supplying our entire county of 100,000 people. The front windows of our rural home framed this dramatic scene as we watched 30' flames amidst the raging fire becoming out of control. Helicopters, tankers, planes and fire crews were engaged in a hot battle.

The greatest concern came when the smoke engulfed the power lines. Smoke can create arcs of electricity between the lines and the ground. Multiple fires could ignite along the 80-mile stretch of power line if something were not done quickly. Authorities decided the only thing that could be done was to "power down." The countywide power outage began at 4:25 p.m. on this very hot, July day of 110 + degrees, just before the evening commute was to begin.

In the first several hours, there was much confusion and chaos. The stream of information was slow and scanty at best. No one seemed to be able to answer the demanding questions of "what happened?" and "how long until we have our power back?" As the fire raged on and homes were flooded with the summer heat, people grew more concerned and tuned into the local radio stations for information. Here's a small taste of what happened:

* I called my husband immediately to let him know of my planned route of travel home. I had a full tank of gas and a gallon of water in my car. I took the route with the least amount of traffic, nonetheless, what would normally have taken 25 minutes, took 1 hour to get home.
* Communication became difficult. Within 5 minutes after I used my cell phone to call home the circuits were busy and remained that way for the next 6 hours.
* Traffic lights were without power which created a traffic gridlock and many frustrated travelers. It took many commuters 1 to 3 hours to get home, in what should have been minutes.
* It was reported that only 2 to 3 gas stations had back-up generators to pump fuel. Those stations had long lines, quickly ran out of fuel-then closed.
* People became stranded and couldn't get home. With the cell phones overloaded many of those people could not call for help. I15 travelers were out-of-luck for their expected needs as well.
* There were overheated and stalled vehicles along the roadways.
* Businesses quickly closed their doors having lost their lights, automatic doors, elevators, security systems, electronic cash registers, and all ability to conduct credit or debit transactions.
* CASH was the only method of payment accepted. With banks closed and credit or debit card machines down, no cash could be obtained by these means. The people who were able to purchase gas and supplies were those who had cash.
* Radio stations were a great help, but with the absence of official information there were many assumptions, rumors, misinformation, anger and panic being expressed by citizens who shared their comments on the air, live and unscreened.
* The hospital went into emergency mode and began treating those affected by heat, and those who had health conditions that required medical devices, monitors, oxygen, etc.
* Many of the elderly and those in convalescent homes had to be evacuated to Dixie State College to escape the heat and be treated for heat-related problems.
* Within the first two hours the local water tanks were nearly dry. The pumps were down for lack of power and the citizens in the county were instructed to use water for DRINKING ONLY (no showers or unnecessary flushing of toilets, etc).
* Stores began to lose their inventory of refrigerated foods and frozen items.
* Police, fire and emergency officials were on overload.
* Hotel rooms in the nearby town of Mesquite, Nevada, went from $35 a night to $350 a night as people flocked to their doors to get out of the heat.
* Dining in Mesquite required hours of waiting in long lines before people could get their meals.
I found it amazing how ill-prepared the majority were to live without power, in the heat, and without essential services for such a short time. In our family we learned a few lessons ourselves. Situations like these cause us to reflect and question, "How prepared is my family for an emergency? I strongly urge you to consider situations that could affect your locale, and then set up an emergency plan to accommodate your future needs. Here are some things you should consider:

Power Outage.................................Severe Storm

Flood..............................................Lightening Strikes

House Fire......................................Forest or Brush Fire

Severe Smoke & Ash.......................Streets Closed to Home

Tornado.........................................Earthquake

Hurricane......................................Tsunami

Hazardous Material Spill................Evacuation

Truck Strike...................................Terrorist Attack or Invasion

Chemical Attack..............................Nuclear Accident

Highways/Bridges Down..................Quarantine​

EMERGENCY PLAN​

Make a two-fold plan: SHELTER IN PLACE (staying where you are) and EVACUATION (leaving your home). There are many wonderful books available on this subject that can help you be fully prepared. Check out your library, bookstores & internet.

72 HR EMERGENCY KIT

Consider all of your needs for 3 days and include those items in your kit. Go through those kits every year and update clothing sizes and items with expirations.

COMMUNICATION

Have a hand-cranked radio, a no-battery required home telephone, and a cell phone with a back-up battery or solar charger. Several Walky-Talkies placed on the same station that extend a number of miles could also be effective for families living in the same area. Have coins to use in public telephones.

GATHERING PLACE

Determine as a family where you would meet if unable to reach one another. Also have an out-of-state contact which each of you could call to assure that everyone is okay, or what you are planning to do.

FUEL & TRAVEL

Consider ways to get about under varied conditions. Keeping your gas tank as full as possible is a first step. Have a good pair of shoes for walking. Have other means such as bicycles, wagons, ATV's, and/or horses.

CASH


Obtain what you need in small bills and some coin for at least 30 days.

WATER

Water is critical. Have reserves available, not only for drinking, but for cooking and hygiene needs. A survival ration is one gallon per day, per person. Have at the very least, a 2-week supply for each person. Keep several gallons in your car and also consider water purification methods and treatments.

TEMPERATURE CONTROL MEASURES

HEAT: Have battery & solar operated fans, spray bottles, sunglasses, hats & sunscreen. COLD: Have gloves, hats, coats, boots, & scarves. RAIN: Have waterproof ponchos & waterproof boots, with extra clothing.

ALTERNATIVE POWER/FUEL


Consider fireplaces & stoves for cold weather, storing no less then 4 cords for the winter. Consider a generator, and solar unit.

MEDICATIONS

A 3-month supply of prescription medications is best. Have over-the-counter medications, herbal remedies & essential oils on hand. Consider the need for natural antibiotics. Have potassium iodine on hand to protect the thyroid in the event of radiation. Give special consideration to those who need oxygen, daily injections, inhalers, etc.

FIRST AID & CPR

Have a good First Aid book and kit, CPR mask, splints, etc. Consider how to care for blisters on your feet and shoe pads. Know what needs to be done in any number of incidences that could occur in a disaster to ease pain, assist in healing & save life.

FOOD

It is recommended that every family should have a 30 to 90 day supply of food they are accustomed to eating. A one-year supply is ideal. START NOW! Stores either close immediately or are empty in less than 24 hours. Special dietary needs should also be considered. Grow a garden, plant fruit trees & berry bushes. Learn to bottle & dehydrate foods. Supplement with vitamins & minerals as well. Find a way & do it now!

COOKING & CLEANING SUPPLIES

Consider your cooking needs if there were no power: propane oven, stove & grill; charcoal grill, pit & dutch oven; wood fire pit; pots, pans, utensils, dishes, can openers, serving dishes, etc; towels, wash rags, wash bins, detergent, scouring pad; paper towels, paper & plastic dishware & utensils; tables and chairs.

SHELTER

Don't depend on someone else to shelter you against the elements. Hotels may be booked for miles. Be ready with your own tent, sleeping bags, tarps, etc.. Consider how you will transport these items. If possible, have racks mounted on top of your vehicle, and/or have a transport trailer or camper.

LIGHTS

Make sure you have several sources of light such as flashlights, kerosene lamps, lanterns, candles, oil lamps, solar lights, and glow sticks. Don't forget batteries, matches, etc.

CLOTHING

Have clothing and footwear for heat and cold. Consider what you would wear in the heart of a snowy winter day without heat.

TOILETRIES

Have lotion, shampoo, soap, moist towelettes, make-up, powder, etc.

SANITATION

Know the principles of sanitation, how deep and how wide to dig an area for waste products, depending upon the size of your group. Have portable toilets, bags to enclose waste, disinfectants, etc. Consider how you will contain & dispose of garbage.

SPECIAL NEEDS


Consider the many needs of infants, the elderly, the handicapped, pets, other animals & livestock. Make a list and purchase!

IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS

Have an ID, photo & birth certificates for each person. Have insurance papers, bank records, living wills, trusts, maps, addresses & phone numbers, etc., and place them in a water-proof receptacle.


Remember, disasters rarely come with a warning. I encourage you to calmly and quickly obtain information to educate & prepare yourself, NOW, while you are comfortable and safe, for TOMORROW may not be so!

Preparedness takes time, money, energy and ACTION… it's enemy is procrastination - "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!"


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So you see, the Law of Unintended Consequences cascaded through a series of events that caught everyone off-guard.

* What would happen in your city, home or family in the event of a local disaster/emergency?
* Are you prepared to shelter-in-place if necessary?
* Can you meet the needs of your family for an extended period of time if the much talked about pandemic finds its way to your area and a quarantine is imposed?


Are you prepared?
 

rickd94

Contributing Member
You ask some really great questions, and we have had a lot of great responses

BUT

I think this is a great opportunity to get more people to start the trip to GETTING IT


Ground Rules - useable for anyone making a "Great Speech"
1. Quickly Establish a Link, a Relationship with Your Audience
2. Speak to and with the Audience: Make Your Speech Interactive
3. Begin Right Away and Make Your Purpose Clear at the Outset
4. Give Your Speech a Simple and Easily Perceivable Organization
Announce the Structure of Your Speech at the Outset
Mark Your Transitions
Changing from One Perspective to Another
5. Practice Authenticity
6. Be Clear About the “Audience Value” You’re Presenting
7. Create a Strong and Memorable Ending


1. Use the fact that these people are in the insurance industry - they plan for the worst events in others lives


---------start powerpoint slides here --- or just talk it thru -------------

Hello - my name is James TIK Blow and I am hear to talk about preparadiness

I think it is funny to be talking about preparadness to a room full of professional preparers

However I want to talk about what you have done for yourself

By show of hands - how many have car insurance ?
and how many have had to use it ?

Again how many have fire insurance
and how many have had to use it ?

How many have life insurance on yourself ?
i will not ask who has had to use that ;=)

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How many have flood insurance?
loss of electricity insurance?
loss of clean air insurance?
loss of water insurance?
loss of ready to eat food insurance?
etc ???

See

preparing is just reviewing what could happen

and thinking today what you would do if that occured


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People say that you last
3 to 5 seconds without thinking

3 to 5 minutes without breathing

3 to 5 hours without shelter

3 to 5 days without drinking

3 to 5 weeks without eating

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Thinking is the easiest - to quote the Brits:

If you find yourself in the middle of an emergency,
your common sense and instincts will usually
tell you what to do.

However, it is important to:
Make sure 911 has been called if people are injured or if there is a threat to life
Do not put yourself or others in danger
Follow the advice of the emergency services
Try to remain calm and think before acting, and try to reassure others
Check for injuries - remember to help yourself before attempting to help others

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But before we get carried away with the dark side

We need to quickly review what could happen to you at home

The power will go out sometime this year
The cell and telephone network could go down this year
The natural gas could be shut off sometime
The water could be shut off again
An important transportation bridge could collapse
There could be a big snow storm
There could be floods, hail, frogs, insects

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HOLD ON a moment


You are not alone - we - everyone in this room are here

There are people in your community that are thinking about these things

We as a company are thinking of these things


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I have a nice hand out that covers many possible basics
(NOTE TO PRESENTER(use the one from FollowTruth (post 17) ~2 doublesided pages?))

- but remember this :

- the best is to have a plan
that you have discussed with your family

If you have a fire - who does what
When you have a power outage - what do you do
for heating, cooling, cooking, seeing, sleeping
When the water goes off - where is your backup supply
When you run out of Aunt Sue's medicine - where is some more

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FEMA says that one of the most critial items to plan for is clean air
"Many potential terrorist attacks** could send tiny
microscopic “junk” into the air. Many of
materials can only hurt you if they get into
your body, so think about creating a barrier
between yourself and any contamination. It’s
smart to have something for each member of
the family that covers their mouth and nose"

** or fires or flu or accidents

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FEMA says that one of the most critial items to plan for is water
"Store one gallon of water per
person per day for drinking
and sanitation in clean plastic
containers. If you live in a
warm weather climate more
water may be necessary."

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FEMA says that one of the most critial items to plan for is food
"Store food that won’t go bad
and does not have to be heated
or cooked. Choose foods that
your family will eat, including
protein or fruit bars, dry cereal
or granola, canned foods and
juices, peanut butter, dried
fruit, nuts, crackers and baby
foods. Remember to pack a
manual can opener, cups and
eating utensils."

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I will be available for questions
otherwise my email/phone number is on the hand out


and please remember to spend a few minutes
this afternoon at 3:45
thinking about starting your path of preparedness


-------------------- end of presentation -----------

rick in North Georgia
 
Think of a real out-of-the-way title. People will come out of curiosity to see you make a fool of yourself and they can then point their finger.

I have tried it many times (or else selected a real far out topic) and it works to draw a crowd. Warm bodies beget warm bodies. No one wants to be left out.
 

kilagal

Senior Member
Give a list of the first 100 things to disappear. That is always a shock to people that know nothing about prepping.
 

Josie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
TIK,
Tell 'em to take the next power outage as an opportunity to look around their home or place of business to see how they are going to have to rough it. In the case of a natural disaster, how do these insuranace people plan on conducting business. They will have clients with questions and wanting to make claims. What are they going to use for communication with clients or home office or home? What do they plan on using for transportation? They may want to look into that bicycle and the equipment!!
 

Straycat

Veteran Member
Some fantastic ideas here.

Remember that, whatever you tell them, it needs to be put in terms they understand - not what we, the hard-core preppers, understand!

You will be speaking largely to preparedness newbies and you don't want to overwhelm them or scare them off with "wild ideas." Try to address situations they can relate to in their locale - earthquakes, riots, truckers' strikes... even personal unemployment and lack of money. Maybe point out how a disaster in a different place (like a hurricane in the Gulf) can lead to shortages where you are. Show how prepping can make their lives easier in a difficult situation and get them through.

You won't turn DGIs into full-scale preppers with a single presentation. BUT, if you plant some seeds they may start looking at the beginning of the path instead of ignoring it altogether.
 
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