grossest post I think I ever read....eating bugs and worms.

lynnie

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Satanta ought to love this one :lol:

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Monday April 10 2006
On Eating Insects, by Maui Mike


In an TEOTWAWKI scenario, securing a renewable source of protein and fat is vital. While previous postings have discussed how family chicken farms have kept people alive during the last depression and the viability of rabbits, I'd like to add my two cents in. It started with my learning about hydroponics. Hydroponics is the growing of plants in nutrient enriched water without soil. Then I learned about aquaponics. In this instance fish are raised in tanks (aquaculture) and plants are raised hydroponically and the systems are merged. In this way, the nitrogen rich excrement of the fish feeds the plants and the plants filter the water for the fish. This system now provides both protein and plants, but you still need to feed the fish. My feverishly inventive mind (FIM) thought 'why not keep the tanks outdoors (I live in Hawaii) and put modified bug zappers over the fish tanks so that rather than collecting the insects, they would drop into the fish tank directly thus feeding my fish for free'. Add solar-powered water pumps and a battery powered bug zapper and viola!
Then I thought that for every pound of fish, I would have to go through many more pounds of insects, and it seemed a waste of protein so I bought some books on entomophagy (insect eating). Man Eating Bugs (best), Creepy Crawly Cuisine and the Eat-A-Bug Cookbook are all good reads.
Here's some of what I learned. There are 1,417 known edible species of insects. The most popular insects for eating are Beetles, butterflies, moths, bees, wasps, ants, grasshoppers, crickets, termites, locusts, flies, mosquitoes, water boatmen, backswimmers, worms, spiders and stink bugs. Flavors include: nutty, sweet, herring, corn, apples, pumpkin, bread, pine nut, avocado to whatever the insects have been recently eating.
Most edible insects range from 30 to 85% high-quality protein and many are excellent sources of fat (See butterworms and waxworms for fat content. Note, these are not really worms but larvae). As long as you do not have an allergy to seafood (the chitin in the seafood is the same as in the exoskeleton of many insects, eating insects, as long as they are cooked presents little health risk. (Assuming that the insects are not being exposed to insecticides...).
Some notes:
When cleaning and preparing them.
1) Remove any dead insects
2) Do not feed them for four hours before eating them
3) Put them in a bag in the fridge for 15 minutes if they are mobile like grasshoppers to slow them down.
4) Avoid freezing as this reduces flavor, but you can store them for a long time in the fridge and they will stay alive.
5) Remove wings and legs if present
6) Cook at over 410 degrees F to kill any germs

All in all, I think earthworms the best to raise and eat and here's why:
1) No crunchy exoskeleton to get in your teeth
2) Easy to dehydrate, powder and add to breads or soups
3) Flavor not bad
4) Lumbrokinase enzyme in worms cleans plaque out of the arteries
5) Not picky eaters, no specialized food requirements so they are easy to raise
6) Double in size in 60-90 days
7) Can't fly away
8) Only one stage (no pupae/larvae) so they can all raised together at any growth stage without eating each other
9) You can get them from the ground, no starter kit required
10) 70% protein

I've forgotten my higher math, but I think that you should be able to harvest about 1% a day (under optimal conditions) without loosing your 'worm capital'. Let's say .5% to be on the safe side. If a person needs a minimum of 40 grams of protein a day, a family of four would need 160 grams a day. That's 228 grams of worm a day. At .5% you would need about 100 pounds (45,600 grams) growing at any one time (please check my math).
100 pounds could easily be grown (either building up over time or getting 100 pounds to start) in an apartment in the city. There are compost kits you can buy or you can make your own. Most are designed for composting foods and harvesting the worm castings for the garden rather than mass worm production so you'll have to dig in with your hands to get the worms out and clean them off (no big deal).
I think this the optimal covert city 'livestock' farm. You can feed them your leftovers and collect remains from restaurants and grow them silently and vertically in a closet. If someone broke into your apartment seeing how well fed you appeared and searched for your 'food' all they would find would be worms...
Another hint. Before eating them, put them in flour for a few hours. This will purge their intestines and fill them with flour (nice for baking).
While I think worms the best for many reasons, if you are outdoors, consider the black light Thai cricket farm: Two fluorescent UV black lights are suspended high above a clear plastic sheet that glows blue from their reflection. Crickets are attracted to the lights, hit the plastic and slide down into a bucket placed below it and drown. You may have to empty the bucket every few hours as this is very effective at catching them. The setup is shown on page 50 of Man Eating Bugs.
Consider insects in your cache of survival knowledge.
Bug Sources:
Grubco 1-800-222-3563
Hatari Invertebrates 520-558-2418
There are scientific supply houses that carry a large variety of insects but they are more expensive so use them only for you initial breeding stock, not for bulk purchases...

JWR Adds: For those readers that feel bound by Levitical law, consider: "All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you. There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat: those that have jointed legs for hopping on the ground. Of these you may eat any kind of locust, katydid, cricket or grasshopper. But all other winged creatures that have four legs you are to detest." - Leviticus 11
 

dissimulo

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I've eaten bugs in Mexico, Thailand, and Cambodia. Very tasty in each case, once you get past the initial squeamishness. I wouldn't want to eat them raw, but I wouldn't want to eat raw meat either.
 

rhealady

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EW-EW-Ew

I raise earthworms and silkworms for my animals. But for me??? I lived inSouth Korea and they served cooked silkworm larvae from carts in the street. I had to cross to the other side to escape the smell.

EW. EW.EW.

I am busy preparing other protein options so the family does not have to have worm stroganoff.
 
Well, due Aintit's latest post, I'm crossing the woims in my chicken compost pile off the list of edibles until further notice, but I reckon all those giant crawlers in the horse compost are fryers in a jam.

:lol:

I still remember wandering out in a neighbor's field he was plowing when I was about four, and the guy showing me how tasty earthworms are. Those girls at church youth camp were so impressed with me eating caterpillars between soda crackers with their guts mushing out when I was 10 that I think they must love me to this very day.

Tras
 

optimistic pessimist

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"If someone broke into your apartment seeing how well fed you appeared and searched for your 'food' all they would find would be worms.."

Now there is a thought.... imagine what the burglar would think when you told them!
:kk1: :kk1: :kk1: :kk2:
 

Chronicles

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Eating bugs would be one of the last things I would do, but I am able to eat them.
When I was in the USMC we all had to eat a few worms in the survival training.

Here is a better idea, move or go to an area where there are many rivers and lakes. FISH taste better. Trout, bass, Catfish, bluegill, crappie, waleye..ect..

Learn to fish, it is not as simple as throughing a baited hook into the water !

I was a fishing guide for a few years and have learned to tie hooks and catch fish.
If you do not know where the fish like to hang out in the waters, you could fish all day long and come home with zero. While you wasted all that time, I would have landed serveral good eaters and been home doing other needed task.

Hint, when fishing in fast moving water that are all mercky with bottom silt, cast into the white water rapids with a baited hook set to float almost near the top of the waters. Use a worm or insect, that hides the hook well. Also pre-buy lots of line and weights and hooks of all kinds, but get some small hooks and invisible fishing line. Fish have fats and oils in there heads, keep the guts and any eggs in the fish for more bait..
 

Myranya

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I work at a history theme park and eat live mealworms almost daily, to show it can be done but they are good too! They taste a little like nuts. Crickets and grasshoppers are good too, but some grasshoppers can bite. Earthworms are not very tasty, they're gritty. Don't ever eat maggots; because they eat rotten meat, if you eat them, you'll ingest some of that rotten meat too. On the other hand, most larvae or caterpillars (after all, they're just butterfly larvae) that eat tasty stuff are tasty too; if you ever find a worm in your apple, don't freak out... it'll be a little protein tidbit that tastes like... apple!

The bias against eating insects is something typical of the Western world (North America & Europe); there are many more people worldwide who regularly eat insects than who don't. Now I'm not the squeamish type, there's nothing I wouldn't eat because it's too gross (I wanna try balut, haven't been able to find it yet :( ), although there are some things I wouldn't eat because it's too cruel, like monkey brains & bush meat. But the insects I've eaten are actually tasty, not something to just try once so I can say I've done it, but if they weren't so hard to get a hold of I'd eat it at least as often as pork or beef, perhaps more because it's healtier.
 
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