TECH Google intends to cripple Chromium

Sam2

Free Range Prisoner
Google intends to cripple Chromium

Original discussion: Update on Google API usage in Chromium

Leading Linux Distros going to remove Chromium from their Official Repositories

According to OMG! Ubuntu it's not just sync that's being removed but also API access for things like translation, spell checking and safe browsing.
 

IceWave

Veteran Member
I know this is talking about Linux, but is this going to affect Windows browsers like Brave which are Chromium based?
 

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
Its because they want to be able to spy.

I currently run a linux mint 19.2 Tina box,
with firewall and NordVPN.

The browsers are the open source Chromium for linux,
and Slimjet, based on Chromium as is Brave.
Brave only has a 64bit version currently for linux.

Brave as well as Slimjet, have none of the spying
abilities that are embedded with Chrome.

Those spying abilities are needed now,
and so open source Chromium, must be abolished.

Bad times are indeed here, and it will only get much worse.

I do not spend very much time now on the interwebz,
best to try and stay as grey as possible.

Please be safe everyone.

Regards to all.

Nowski
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Google intends to cripple Chromium

Original discussion: Update on Google API usage in Chromium

Leading Linux Distros going to remove Chromium from their Official Repositories

According to OMG! Ubuntu it's not just sync that's being removed but also API access for things like translation, spell checking and safe browsing.


We are the Borg. Resistance is futile.


You will be assimilated.
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
They'll be called "terrorist phones".

Well the problem with the open source phones and stuff is with a sufficiently advanced hardware hacker it will be very difficult to flesh things out.

For example you could code the GPS to show off by x number of miles or feet. IT all depends on how you repackage the packets on the device itself...
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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I do not allow chrome on any of my computers. Two of my daughters have chrome due to mandated crap from the university that won't work on anything else but they are not allowed to network with any of our business programs, etc.

I hate chrome with a passion. Always have. One of my daughters accidentally crashed one of our primary computers because she installed Chrome for some school work. Thank the Lord above that I had everything backed up because it destroyed several programs and corrupted a bunch of files as a result. Chrome is as insidious as brain cancer for your computer.
 

mistaken1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
According to OMG! Ubuntu it's not just sync that's being removed but also API access for things like translation, spell checking and safe browsing.

I do not use any of those features in chromium. Matter of fact I kill safe browsing in firefox.
Yes for the average user this means the tech giants will spy on everything you do.

I wonder if they will have yellow "T"s showup on any twitter or facebook posts?
Only a matter of time before we will be required to wear them on our sleeves and such.
 

Walrus

Veteran Member
Bumping this up:

Sam, it's been a bit of time; do you happen to have any further info regarding Chromium, good browsers and general Linux info on the new version you've been using?
 

hunybee

Veteran Member
i am not super up on all the new or bestest kinds of phones, so if one does not have an android, or an iphone, then what does one have?
 

buttie

Veteran Member
I use Ubuntu for my desktop, tablet and a web server. Works great, but not as easy to install programs as apple or windoze. Upto a couple of years ago Ubuntu was working on making their OS available on phones too. Just did a survey recently and there are really no great alternatives to google and apple. There are lots of fair to good alternatives though, however you'll need to have the right phone and know how to unlock it install the OS your self and then configure the phone properly. Graphene is the phone OS I find most interesting. GrapheneOS
 

Lone_Hawk

Resident Spook
Nowski is correct. It’s because the NSA/Google agency needs to spy on Americans.

This has nothing to do with the NSA.

I do not allow Chrome in my store. Say for example we run a background check on Chrome, then Google has all of their information as we enter it on the government system. Specifically, eNICS will not allow you to use Chrome to update your password because Chrome will capture your user name and password to their system.
 

Sam2

Free Range Prisoner
Bumping this up:

Sam, it's been a bit of time; do you happen to have any further info regarding Chromium, good browsers and general Linux info on the new version you've been using?
Hi, Walrus.

I have never used Chromium. I have used some derivatives, but only sparingly and usually barefooted. I abandoned Firefox 7 years ago, and it has morphed into Chrome.

I'm still working with the new install of Linux Mint 20.1. It is the best version, yet. I would say that Linux Mint has been superior to Win10, for a least 5 years.

I have a standing offer to install Mint, along side Win10, as well as show them around and where to get help.. but few takers.

It takes about 15 minutes, plus updates. Then, as much time as you want to give it, for tinkering, configuring and learning.

I've also wiped the Win10 partition on this year old box. The gamer still has the Win10 partition. If I needed storage, I can always wipe that partition, too.

My main browser is Pale Moon, which just had a major update to v. 29.0.0.

Pale Moon is not installed. Doesn't need to be. I'm not sure on the terminology... There is a portable version, but I'm not sure if that is the same as running it without installing, or not.

I had a version of Chrome, called Ungoogled Chrome, on Linux Mint 19, but did not actually use it and have not yet added to this version of Mint. So, I can not vouch for it.
 

Walrus

Veteran Member
This has nothing to do with the NSA.

I do not allow Chrome in my store. Say for example we run a background check on Chrome, then Google has all of their information as we enter it on the government system. Specifically, eNICS will not allow you to use Chrome to update your password because Chrome will capture your user name and password to their system.
Good info, Lone Hawk, thank you.
 

Walrus

Veteran Member
Sam, I'll for sure take you up on the Linux Mint offer; we'll work out the details on timing when I have a better feel for when/where/what I'm going to be doing after this next cold spell passes over (looks like all next week is going to be COLD!).

I've also been looking at proton's VPN; I presume Mint has no issues with that either?
 

Sam2

Free Range Prisoner
Sam, I'll for sure take you up on the Linux Mint offer; we'll work out the details on timing when I have a better feel for when/where/what I'm going to be doing after this next cold spell passes over (looks like all next week is going to be COLD!).

I've also been looking at proton's VPN; I presume Mint has no issues with that either?
Yep, I'm looking forward to the back side of winter. Just let me know when you are ready.

To get a head start, you might want to disable secure boot and fast start.

I've been running proton's free VPN for a few months. It is much easier now, than when I first started. Then, I had to install some programs and download some files, etc.

Now, all you have to do is run their terminal commands and it handles things for you.

Some websites will not allow access via the vpn.
Too many trying to access the sites from one IP address.
You can disable the vpn if you really want to load those sites.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
Hi, Walrus.

I have never used Chromium. I have used some derivatives, but only sparingly and usually barefooted. I abandoned Firefox 7 years ago, and it has morphed into Chrome.

I'm still working with the new install of Linux Mint 20.1. It is the best version, yet. I would say that Linux Mint has been superior to Win10, for a least 5 years.

I have a standing offer to install Mint, along side Win10, as well as show them around and where to get help.. but few takers.

It takes about 15 minutes, plus updates. Then, as much time as you want to give it, for tinkering, configuring and learning.

I've also wiped the Win10 partition on this year old box. The gamer still has the Win10 partition. If I needed storage, I can always wipe that partition, too.

My main browser is Pale Moon, which just had a major update to v. 29.0.0.

Pale Moon is not installed. Doesn't need to be. I'm not sure on the terminology... There is a portable version, but I'm not sure if that is the same as running it without installing, or not.

I had a version of Chrome, called Ungoogled Chrome, on Linux Mint 19, but did not actually use it and have not yet added to this version of Mint. So, I can not vouch for it.
I have a computer with Mint 18 I use to surf the Net and run e-mail. What is better about Mint 20?
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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I'm missing something. I thought the only way one could Update [[in this case Chromium]] was by manually updating. You can allow certain updayes as desired but there was no Auto-update with Linux-this made it hard for Hackers to dump something in software and have it Reach out and Touch someone?

So how can Google do anything to a Browser on Linux?

One of the reasons I'm moving to Linux-tired of Microsnot, Scroogle and Firefarts Updating things when I have it set not to.
 

Sam2

Free Range Prisoner
I'm missing something. I thought the only way one could Update [[in this case Chromium]] was by manually updating. You can allow certain updayes as desired but there was no Auto-update with Linux-this made it hard for Hackers to dump something in software and have it Reach out and Touch someone?

So how can Google do anything to a Browser on Linux?

One of the reasons I'm moving to Linux-tired of Microsnot, Scroogle and Firefarts Updating things when I have it set not to.
Linux Mint has an update manager that will notify of updates as they are released. This is for software that is installed from the repositories or from your authorized ppa's.

Not sure what the ppa stands for, but is a reference to software from other sources that is not included with the system. Thus, the Mint developers have no responsiblity for such software and you are on your own.

example:
deb-src Index of /slimbook/slimbook/ubuntu focal main

Updates are a good thing, from trustworthy sources and sources which do not presume to own your system.
 
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