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jward

passin' thru
Well I am not seeing thirty days at home just yet, but I do wish you sweet dreams : )
 

Uhhmmm...

Veteran Member
Gee... Given the disease infection rate, susceptibility to mitigation, and leathality, I was guessing more like 90 to 180 days. Some friends will be isolating for 18 months because they are waiting out the vaccine.
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
I think a lot of us are just going to have to learn to live with the bugger until there is enough herd immunity in the population that its no longer a problem and burns itself out. For those that can self quarantine for 3 to 6 months more power to you. We aren't there. Not being flip just pragmatic.
 

Samuel Adams

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Don’t fall for it.



Martin Armstrong has also had some VERY interesting things to say about the European banking crisis, and what they are doing in collusion with American media to condition the populace to complete control.....via the corona.

The lethal part is the hype.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Everybody..my best advice is get plenty of sleeptime. It keeps ya sane and healthy.
Don't let the daily lunacy interfere.

Added: About the timeline. Heard the guys talking about it on the local radio this morning, and pretty much were relying on the "month" timeline. Keep in mind...it will be a month ONLY IF THIS PLAN WORKS. If it doesn't contain, the disruption and self (hopefully) quarantine could last MUCH longer. Hate to inject a dose of reality to the mindset, but keep it back there in the remote recesses.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
Everybody..my best advice is get plenty of sleeptime. It keeps ya sane and healthy.
Don't let the daily lunacy interfere.

Added: About the timeline. Heard the guys talking about it on the local radio this morning, and pretty much were relying on the "month" timeline. Keep in mind...it will be a month ONLY IF THIS PLAN WORKS. If it doesn't contain, the disruption and self (hopefully) quarantine could last MUCH longer. Hate to inject a dose of reality to the mindset, but keep it back there in the remote recesses.

30 days before what?
Before you can resume "normal" life with little chance of catching COVID 19?
IMO- Nope, that ain't gonna happen in 30 days, but too many variables to make a bet on it.
Let's say something MEASURABLE:

I say I'd guess it will be at least 60 days before new cases (nationwide) are below the number of released recovered patients. Local stats may vary widely.
I think it will be at least 7 weeks before the weekly deaths stop climbing.
If the public thinks it is safe, after only 30 days, to resume business as usual and stops taking precautions, I'd put money on a large second wave of victims.
Without closing personal service businesses like massage therapists, who may be WORKING ON THE PUBLIC WITHOUT PROTECTIVE N-95 respirators, because they are unavailable, such as tattoo shops, nail salons, hairdressers, barber shops, chiropractors, dentists? (would they? )and other such prolongued close contact occupations the epidemic will take weeks if not months longer to control. IMO.
 
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packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I just had my teeth cleaned, and I bought a pair of Wahl clippers for haircuts. I'm ready for many weeks at home.

I have to go see the neurologist on Monday, stupid insurance. I was able to reschedule our spots for the conceal carry class. Gonna cancel my tooth cleaning for May, or even possibly June! We're going to do a grocery run when he gets off of work to top off and then I'm done, we'll be both home for the next week except for Monday.
 

Freeholder

This too shall pass.
Daughter and I have one more quick trip to town for one item (her three months of prescriptions) and then we are holing up for at least a month. We have everything we need to stay put for three months, but I will reevaluate in thirty days. She is medically somewhat fragile, with lupus, and I’m over sixty. So I think it’s just prudent to stay home for a while, since we can. It’s not like we’ll be confined to the house all the time, because we are in the country, and I have work to do outdoors. As handicapped as she is, if she did get sick, she’d get the short stick in a triage situation, so I just don’t want to risk it.

Kathleen
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
We're going to be making a final run to Walmart on Monday. We'll be going into lockdown for the foreseeable future after that. Cancelling my doctor's appt for March 31st.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
THIS is what I'm worried about, what's in the background? Is there something coming inbound from space or things like that. I'd rather know about it so I can Kiss my rear as appropriate.

To be honest ever since this thing started growing feet all I can think about is that object that blasted past the earth late last year that had the weird trajectory. Did it visit the earth other than just doing the fly by?
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Daughter and I have one more quick trip to town for one item (her three months of prescriptions) and then we are holing up for at least a month. We have everything we need to stay put for three months, but I will reevaluate in thirty days. She is medically somewhat fragile, with lupus, and I’m over sixty. So I think it’s just prudent to stay home for a while, since we can. It’s not like we’ll be confined to the house all the time, because we are in the country, and I have work to do outdoors. As handicapped as she is, if she did get sick, she’d get the short stick in a triage situation, so I just don’t want to risk it.

Kathleen

Same here on being confined to the house... we do live in town, that said we do have a nice sized yard and the neighbors aren't too close, so I can work out in my gardens as the weather improves.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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Don’t fall for it.



Martin Armstrong has also had some VERY interesting things to say about the European banking crisis, and what they are doing in collusion with American media to condition the populace to complete control.....via the corona.

The lethal part is the hype.

Well, according to people I know who have direct links to Wuhan and other areas it's worse than we are being told.

Also the Chinese released a report-and I'd triple the numbers if I were a betting man-they have 80,000 infected and 70% recovered. So what 30% of 80K? And that 30%, how many are just sick versus dead?

Shrug it off and blame Whomever you want but personally? I'm taking it serious-more serious than they are saying to take it.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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I'd don't work like that, when you are the peeps who keep the lights on and water flowing.

That's been one of my concerns from the Start-how long can they keep people who can maintain the equipment providing water and power? Heck, even the Internet-it shuts down so does our sources of news, community and entertainment.

I keep getting Poo-Pooed over that concern until I point out the NBA and other sports shutting down and schools being closed and a few minutes ago Jimmy Kimmle has announced they are not going to do their program for Cvirus fears. How many News outlets, Television shows, moovees, etc before there is nothing for people to watch? [[Actually a good thing IMHO]], how long before no one is driving products or delivering goods or they have no one to Stock or man the Registers? Gas for cars?

Believe it or not at your own Expense but consider the Ramifications of what happens when those who DO believe it decide 'Screw it-I'm stayin' home.'.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
30 days before what?
Before you can resume "normal" life with little chance of catching COVID 19?
IMO- Nope, that ain't gonna happen in 30 days, but too many variables to make a bet on it.
Let's say something MEASURABLE:

I say I'd guess it will be 60 days before new cases are below the number of released recovered patients.
I think it will be at least 7 weeks before the weekly deaths stop climbing.
If the public thinks it is safe, after only 30 days, to resume business as usual and stops taking precautions, I'd put money on a large second wave of victims.
Without closing personal service businesses like massage therapists, who may be WORKING ON THE PUBLIC WITHOUT PROTECTIVE N-95 respirators, because they are unavailable, such as tattoo shops, nail salons, hairdressers, barber shops, chiropractors, dentists? (would they? )and other such prolongued close contact occupations the epidemic will take weeks if not months longer to control. IMO.

I don't know; it's not unlikely. Temperature is likely to play a factor before too much longer. Chris Martenson was talking about that last night.
 

Squib

Veteran Member
Well, hopefully many of us also have stocked Libraries...partly courtesy of the kind “Free Kindle Downloads” folks here on Timebomb!

:applaud:
 

Rucus Sunday

Veteran Member
30 days before what?
Before you can resume "normal" life with little chance of catching COVID 19?
IMO- Nope, that ain't gonna happen in 30 days, but too many variables to make a bet on it.
Let's say something MEASURABLE:

I say I'd guess it will be at least 60 days before new cases (nationwide) are below the number of released recovered patients. Local stats may vary widely.
I think it will be at least 7 weeks before the weekly deaths stop climbing.
If the public thinks it is safe, after only 30 days, to resume business as usual and stops taking precautions, I'd put money on a large second wave of victims.
Without closing personal service businesses like massage therapists, who may be WORKING ON THE PUBLIC WITHOUT PROTECTIVE N-95 respirators, because they are unavailable, such as tattoo shops, nail salons, hairdressers, barber shops, chiropractors, dentists? (would they? )and other such prolongued close contact occupations the epidemic will take weeks if not months longer to control. IMO.

The Peak Prosperity YouTube vid today spoke somewhat to this. Due to the exponential growth of Covid, based on some very rough and early stats, Chris estimates the number of new cases to increase ~10x every 2 weeks or so. That makes for some very scary numbers within about 6 weeks. So, I think I'd give it about 2+ months before we see the number of mandated quarantines/isolations begin to slow down. I recommend everyone watch

(29:46)
View:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWEakkc_xxs
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
The Bride is being FAST TRACKED to being able to work from home.

For an otherwise decent run operation, they are in a panic. (Ask Ragnarok) The INITIAL discussions this MORNING wanted to know who was able to go home RIGHT THEN and start working from home.
(I told RELIC they were running scared since she shared the planning e-mail with me. SHE said PANIC was a better term, so, I think someone got slightly surprised (intel not QUITE correct), or, Sunday will be a biotch.)

They are trying to get as many bodies OUT of the Office as possible. And they're willing to do a WHOLE BUNCH of "adjusting" to get their hardware in your house to do your job.


I swear they had intel that said it was gonna be SHUT DOWN NO TRAVEL at 4 PM today. And were surprised they have a few days to get things going...

ALWAYS assuming that DJT does NOT slam things shut Sunday night.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
The Peak Prosperity YouTube vid today spoke somewhat to this. Due to the exponential growth of Covid, based on some very rough and early stats, Chris estimates the number of new cases to increase ~10x every 2 weeks or so. That makes for some very scary numbers within about 6 weeks. So, I think I'd give it about 2+ months before we see the number of mandated quarantines/isolations begin to slow down. I recommend everyone watch

(29:46)
View:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWEakkc_xxs

The one he did yesterday had temperature ranges on Covid that basically suggested it'd have a hard time working at temperatures over 52 degrees Fahrenheit; I kept a screenshot of it so I'd know the numbers

covid 19 temperature humidity ranges.png
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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I think a lot of us are just going to have to learn to live with the bugger until there is enough herd immunity in the population that its no longer a problem and burns itself out. For those that can self quarantine for 3 to 6 months more power to you. We aren't there. Not being flip just pragmatic.

There is no "herd immunity" for the common cold. I'm not too certain there is going to be anything approaching it for COVID19 either. There have been plenty of stories of how easy it is to reinfect no long after having it. That means our bodies don't create enough antibodies to prevent reinfection.

That's one of the reasons I really don't believe there is going to be a vaccine. I do believe that they will find a better protocol for deal with an infection, but not a vaccine.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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The one he did yesterday had temperature ranges on Covid that basically suggested it'd have a hard time working at temperatures over 52 degrees Fahrenheit; I kept a screenshot of it so I'd know the numbers

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Well we've got it here in Florida. They have in PR. And they have it in central and south America now. Not too sure that the hypothesis works based on real world numbers.
 

vestige

Deceased
The Bride is being FAST TRACKED to being able to work from home.

For an otherwise decent run operation, they are in a panic. (Ask Ragnarok) The INITIAL discussions this MORNING wanted to know who was able to go home RIGHT THEN and start working from home.
(I told RELIC they were running scared since she shared the planning e-mail with me. SHE said PANIC was a better term, so, I think someone got slightly surprised (intel not QUITE correct), or, Sunday will be a biotch.)

They are trying to get as many bodies OUT of the Office as possible. And they're willing to do a WHOLE BUNCH of "adjusting" to get their hardware in your house to do your job.


I swear they had intel that said it was gonna be SHUT DOWN NO TRAVEL at 4 PM today. And were surprised they have a few days to get things going...

ALWAYS assuming that DJT does NOT slam things shut Sunday night.


Chuck...

Are there indicators Trump may lock the doors Sunday night?
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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A decade ago when pandemic plans were first required they called this the essential worker problem.


That's been one of my concerns from the Start-how long can they keep people who can maintain the equipment providing water and power? Heck, even the Internet-it shuts down so does our sources of news, community and entertainment.

I keep getting Poo-Pooed over that concern until I point out the NBA and other sports shutting down and schools being closed and a few minutes ago Jimmy Kimmle has announced they are not going to do their program for Cvirus fears. How many News outlets, Television shows, moovees, etc before there is nothing for people to watch? [[Actually a good thing IMHO]], how long before no one is driving products or delivering goods or they have no one to Stock or man the Registers? Gas for cars?

Believe it or not at your own Expense but consider the Ramifications of what happens when those who DO believe it decide 'Screw it-I'm stayin' home.'.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Well we've got it here in Florida. They have in PR. And they have it in central and south America now. Not too sure that the hypothesis works based on real world numbers.

Yeah, I actually wondered the same thing, because if those numbers were right how was it surviving indoors, where temperatures are routinely 70 or better? But then he was also talking that those temperature ranges were seeing the biggest community spread, if I heard him right, so maybe it's just that it slows down outside those ranges?
 
That's been one of my concerns from the Start-how long can they keep people who can maintain the equipment providing water and power? Heck, even the Internet-it shuts down so does our sources of news, community and entertainment.

I keep getting Poo-Pooed over that concern until I point out the NBA and other sports shutting down and schools being closed and a few minutes ago Jimmy Kimmle has announced they are not going to do their program for Cvirus fears. How many News outlets, Television shows, moovees, etc before there is nothing for people to watch? [[Actually a good thing IMHO]], how long before no one is driving products or delivering goods or they have no one to Stock or man the Registers? Gas for cars?

Believe it or not at your own Expense but consider the Ramifications of what happens when those who DO believe it decide 'Screw it-I'm stayin' home.'.
For Y2K, our network sent us quite a bit of generic programming to stay on the air in case we lost satellite feed. We would air the same material at a different time each day until the shit got sorted out. Didn’t need it fortunately. The only thing worse than reruns is reruns in Espanol.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
For Y2K, our network sent us quite a bit of generic programming to stay on the air in case we lost satellite feed. We would air the same material at a different time each day until the shit got sorted out. Didn’t need it fortunately. The only thing worse than reruns is reruns in Espanol.

Wasn't that how it went in The Stand? The networks, when they were running, were basically showing reruns of something or another?
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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For Y2K, our network sent us quite a bit of generic programming to stay on the air in case we lost satellite feed. We would air the same material at a different time each day until the shit got sorted out. Didn’t need it fortunately. The only thing worse than reruns is reruns in Espanol.

So, out of curiosity, let's say they were rerunning old "In love Lucy" episodes. You know when Ricky would get upset and start babbling in Spanish? If the show is in Spanish would he start babbling in English?
 
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