ENVR Giant plumes of methane bubbling to surface of Arctic Ocean

metroguy

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By Eric Pfeiffer | The Sideshow – Wed, Dec 14, 2011

Methane bubbles trapped in the arctic ice
Russian scientists have discovered hundreds of plumes of methane gas, some 1,000 meters in diameter, bubbling to the surface of the Arctic Ocean. Scientists are concerned that as the Arctic Shelf recedes, the unprecedented levels of gas released could greatly accelerate global climate change.

Igor Semiletov of the Russian Academy of Sciences tells the UK's Independent that the plumes of methane, a gas 20 times as harmful as carbon dioxide, have shocked scientists who have been studying the region for decades. "Earlier we found torch-like structures like this but they were only tens of meters in diameter," he said. "This is the first time that we've found continuous, powerful and impressive seeping structures, more than 1,000 metres in diameter. It's amazing."

Semiletov said that while his research team has discovered more than 100 plumes, they estimate there to be "thousands" over the wider area, extending from the Russian mainland to the East Siberian Arctic Shelf.

"In a very small area, less than 10,000 square miles, we have counted more than 100 fountains, or torch-like structures, bubbling through the water column and injected directly into the atmosphere from the seabed," Semiletov said. "We carried out checks at about 115 stationary points and discovered methane fields of a fantastic scale — I think on a scale not seen before. Some plumes were a kilometer or more wide and the emissions went directly into the atmosphere — the concentration was a hundred times higher than normal."
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
Been doing that off the east coast of the US for quite a while too apparently-saw video of the ocean boiling, quite amazing. Some speculate this is where a lot of the higher levels of co2 and other 'greenhouse gasses' are really coming from but it suits an agenda so they keep these things as quiet as possible. Who knows.
 

Double_A

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This is truly frightening. Massive release of previously trapped ocean methane is a very severe greenhouse gas and can really do damage to the climate. Science literature both academic and popular has worried about this for years now. Mankind can mess things up but generally nature has correcting mechanisms, but when nature goes wonky the scale of problems can be devastating in comparison and take correspondingly long periods to correct.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Mankind can mess things up but generally nature has correcting mechanisms, but when nature goes wonky the scale of problems can be devastating in comparison and take correspondingly long periods to correct.

Nature does not have correcting mechanisms. The world has systems which tend to remain steady at certain balance points. Some points would be lethal to human life, and some are hospitable to us and other life forms. The world doesn't care, one way or the other.
 

BornFree

Came This Far
This is truly frightening. Massive release of previously trapped ocean methane is a very severe greenhouse gas and can really do damage to the climate. Science literature both academic and popular has worried about this for years now. Mankind can mess things up but generally nature has correcting mechanisms, but when nature goes wonky the scale of problems can be devastating in comparison and take correspondingly long periods to correct.

So you think this has never happened before? Nature will have its way.
Read the news about what people are doing to one another and the moral state of this world. I think that is a whole lot more frightening.
 

Richard

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dupe


this methane was naturally produced therefore part of nature's processes
 
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Richard

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Nature does not have correcting mechanisms. The world has systems which tend to remain steady at certain balance points. Some points would be lethal to human life, and some are hospitable to us and other life forms. The world doesn't care, one way or the other.


citation needed where do you get this idea?

I regard the release of methane as a good, natural thing
 
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FarmerJohn

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Of course it does [have negative feedback or self/correcting mechanisims].

Warming oceans (by whatever cause) will tend to increase precipitation (much of which will fall as snow) increasing albedo, thus contributing cooling effect.

Unfortunately the Earth also has positive feedback mechanisms. These include the CO2-forced warming that melts the arctic ice a little, decreasing the albedo, contributing to more warming, melting the terrestrial and sub-sea permafrost, releasing methane, increasing the greenhouse effect. (That's great for high-latitude dwellers but awful for anybody living within a few meters of sea level.)
 

FarmerJohn

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Flare it. Problem solved.

Not so easy to solve. The dissolved methane is coming out of the ocean one molecule at a time across millions of square Kilometers. If it was coming from a few discrete locations that would be another matter. If it were possible to collect it we/they could sell it; but we can't even sell the methane coming off of the Bakken Shale Formation in North Dakota because there's no infrastructure. I's already being flared off despite ready markets in the lower 48.
 

Kook

A 'maker', not a 'taker'!
Well, someone strike a match anyways. It's not like we can blame it on the dog, now is it?
 

Double_A

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So you think this has never happened before? Nature will have its way.
Read the news about what people are doing to one another and the moral state of this world. I think that is a whole lot more frightening.


Where in my comment did you get the idea I said it's never happened before?
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
Nature does not have correcting mechanisms. The world has systems which tend to remain steady at certain balance points. Some points would be lethal to human life, and some are hospitable to us and other life forms. The world doesn't care, one way or the other.

Why did you even bother posting?
 
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