ALERT FUNG BLACKALERT: Markets Are Taking A Huge Dump

raven

TB Fanatic
So, they have bloated inventories because people are unable to afford the items in those inventories, but they will raise prices to try fixing the situation.

WT actual F?
GDP has always been measured in dollars, not in product.

As their warehouse fill with non essentials, they will need to find ways to clear out the inventory.
I expect that non essentials will decrease in price long enough to clear the excess.
Essentials will continue to climb.

Could pay to watch for clearances.
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
GDP has always been measured in dollars, not in product.

As their warehouse fill with non essentials, they will need to find ways to clear out the inventory.
I expect that non essentials will decrease in price long enough to clear the excess.
Essentials will continue to climb.

Could pay to watch for clearances.

I sort of get that, but if milk goes from $3 a gallon to $6 a gallon, and other items increase similarly, that $500 TV will be just as unaffordable at $250 on clearance.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
In order for the WEF to implement their plan to "Own nothing and Be Happy",
when the market loses value,
the value has to stay lost.
(I honestly can't imagine how that would work but you won't be able to just bide your time until it bounces back)
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
Long story short?

Consumers have run out of discretionary buying power due to rising energy, housing, and food costs.

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Target, Walmart: 3 takeaways from 'a wild 48 hours in retail'
Brian Sozzi
Brian Sozzi

·Anchor, Editor-at-Large
Wed, May 18, 2022, 11:59 AM

It doesn't take a brain surgeon to suss out a host of negatives from the brutal earnings results and conference calls from Target and Walmart this week.

All of them come to the same conclusion though: Consumers are being financially battered by inflation and the economy is slowing much quicker than Wall Street economists have factored into their 500-step multi-factor models.

"It has been a wild 48 hours in retail," Jefferies Analyst Steph Wissink said on Yahoo Finance Live (video above). "We heard from Walmart yesterday and Target today. One of the things that stood out to us was the common patterns. We are seeing both companies are signaling that their stores are seeing strong traffic versus e-commerce. Both are seeing high costs to execute their business. Consumers are moving more towards essentials versus discretionary merchandise."

"The last thing is not going to abate anytime soon," Wissink added. "There were a lot of conversations among investors that maybe inflation for the consumer has peaked, but these companies are giving us very different signals that we are still seeing costs rise more than prices."

Wild may even be an understatement. The two retailers have shed more than $65 billion in combined market cap in the past two sessions alone as investors rerate both stocks for the leaner quarters ahead.

The poor quarters from Walmart and Target have unleashed major sell-offs in other household name retailers such as Best Buy, Dollar General, Dollar Tree, and Costco.

Here are three takeaways that caught the analytical eyes of us here at Yahoo Finance.

1. Inflation has gotten out of control
Walmart and Target both saw serious margin pressure as inflation in the supply chain bore down on financial statements.

The discounters were caught flat-footed in not raising prices fast enough to offset inflation's ugly tentacles.

"We never expected the kind of cost increases in freight and transportation that we're seeing right now," Target chairman and CEO Brian Cornell told Yahoo Finance. Target estimates it may see an additional $1 billion in freight and transportation costs this year tied to near-record-high fuel and diesel prices.

The inflation theme was similar at Walmart, too.

"We still feel great about the business model of the company. I feel good about the year. It's that we're dealing with some things that we haven't dealt with before, and we'll work our way through it," Walmart CFO Brett Biggs conceded in an interview with Yahoo Finance.

2. Bloated inventories
Both retailers saw inventories balloon by more than 30% in the first quarter, reflecting price increases by vendors but also consumers pulling back on discretionary purchases like home goods.

Walmart noted general merchandise markdowns were $100 million greater than expected.

"Most of the increased inventory and related costs were related to buying over the past several quarters with a keen focus on in-stock, and now we're in a short period of rightsizing it. The current sales strength and warmer weather in the U.S. give us confidence in our ability to work through this fairly quickly and strategically," Biggs told analysts on the earnings call.
Analysts say it will take several quarters for the retailers to work through their excess inventories, pressuring margins further in the process.

3. Price increases are coming
Walmart and Target will now look to push through price increases on shoppers where they can in a bid to fend off inflation. The duo will also try to find cost savings in other parts of their operations to protect margins.

"First, we are going to try to hold costs with suppliers — but if prices go up in a certain way, then we'll have to take prices [up] on items," Biggs explained.

"We've got to make sure that we don't lose our value positioning," Target's Cornell said. "So we are selectively and surgically passing on costs in certain categories where our cost of goods have skyrocketed, but from a freight transportation standpoint, that we've had to look at other ways to drive efficiency in our operations."

Brian Sozzi is an editor-at-large and anchor at Yahoo Finance. Follow Sozzi on Twitter @BrianSozzi and on LinkedIn.


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Price increases are coming??? Wal Mart has been jacking prices almost daily. Wife tells me about it nightly.

Also, Wal Mart has control of its entire distribution system, except for the price of diesel. They only buy it, not refine it. I expect that to be a big take away from this. They will buy a refinery at some point.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
I know quite a few people that own PM's
None are selling anytime soon.

People heavy into bonds and equities [also crypto] are going to learn that where we are at in the economic and financial cycle is that the aim is not return on principal but return of principal. Metal will do that quite nicely and after the paper games are finished your buying power will increase measurably when people relearn the lessons of the past that my mother learned as a child of the great depression and passed it on to me.

When people figure out what is left as a store of value during these times there won't be much if any metal left to buy and people always want what they can't have and at that point the metal prices will start to reflect intrinsic value. Getting a little bit closer every day and a four digit loss in the Dow is nothing to sneeze at. Four digit losses are significant like the three digit losses used to be fifteen or twenty years ago.
 

thereisnofork

Veteran Member
I'm watching Yahoo Finance (finance.yahoo.com) and if you keep scrolling down they have about 5 mutual funds that are up 5% today. They must be hedging funds, just strange.
 

Southside

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Price increases are coming??? Wal Mart has been jacking prices almost daily. Wife tells me about it nightly.

Also, Wal Mart has control of its entire distribution system, except for the price of diesel. They only buy it, not refine it. I expect that to be a big take away from this. They will buy a refinery at some point.
Nah. Would have to buy too many. gas doesn't ship cheaply. You're gas comes from the local area, for the most part. One mess Wal-Mart isn't interested in.
 

Annika

Senior Member
They can't have the stock market as it is now if they want their "reset" to work. Can't have people owning tangible assets or anything that they can "cash out", and still be able to have them on UBI and renting everything to complete the cycle leaving you owning nothing and them owning everything. Cryptos, Markets, any trade-abilities will have to go to ZERO for the masses. If you own anything asset wise, you have value outside their system that you can possibly work with. If you don't, then you can be owned by them.

"Company Store" becomes the "Global Store" becomes the "Panopticon Plantation".
Jeremy Bentham…….interesting sociologist.
 

dioptase

Veteran Member
Something for consideration, for anyone having money to buy in when things bounce back...

One thing that I have read, is to see how stocks compare vs the SPY.

If the SPY is down, those stocks that are down about the same amount, %-wise (or not that much lower), are the ones to buy at the bounce.

NVDA, NKE, TSLA are only down about 6% +/1, vs TGT at 25%. (Did TGT just have bad earnings or something??) Although they are lower down than SPY is at the moment, those should be better buys than TGT. From what I've read. (I am not a financial advisor yada yada...)
 

dioptase

Veteran Member
SPY down about 4% at the moment. SGLD, SSLV (gold and silver funds backed by gold, silver stored) down quite a bit less, 1-2%. Those good possibilities for a pop from the bottom?
 
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Southside

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Wave 3 of the Grand Super Cycle is underway.

The market has a long, long way to go before this is over.

If I told you the ultimate price objective, almost nobody would believe me.
I am at a bottom of 742, a 95% from the 37,000 high.

Question is, Where does it cross gold?
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
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The Hammer

Has No Life - Lives on TB
True bear markets have a way of reducing those "buy the dip" folks into weeping puddles on the floor.

Only when the nuclear mushroom cloud clears and they have abandoned all hope does the actual bottom hit.

We might be entering into another such cycle.

Where is that Death Burger grill? In storage somewhere...
 

LoupGarou

Ancient Fuzzball
In order for the WEF to implement their plan to "Own nothing and Be Happy",
when the market loses value,
the value has to stay lost.
(I honestly can't imagine how that would work but you won't be able to just bide your time until it bounces back)

Imagine, if you will, a world where they shut the markets all down in one blink of an eye, and just never open it back up again. Something similar to a Bank Holiday where (now...) they will be busy at the bank's headquarters absorbing all of the "assets" from everybody's accounts in the Bail-In that will happen. Now imagine the same for the stock market and all of the other markets.

Stocks and bonds are worthless if you can't buy or sell them, as are Crypto and most other assets, tangible or not.

The Stock market depicted by Klaus and friends is RADICALLY different from the one we have today. There is no conversion from the current one to the one that they are planning that does not include an "All Loss" function of the old, and a "Build Back Bankrupt" of the new.

And as long as it hits bottom explodes and disappears, there are dozens of ways that they could get it there, including a "hack attack" and blame it on the chinese and russians...
 

doctor_fungcool

TB Fanatic
Imagine, if you will, a world where they shut the markets all down in one blink of an eye, and just never open it back up again. Something similar to a Bank Holiday where (now...) they will be busy at the bank's headquarters absorbing all of the "assets" from everybody's accounts in the Bail-In that will happen. Now imagine the same for the stock market and all of the other markets.

Stocks and bonds are worthless if you can't buy or sell them, as are Crypto and most other assets, tangible or not.

The Stock market depicted by Klaus and friends is RADICALLY different from the one we have today. There is no conversion from the current one to the one that they are planning that does not include an "All Loss" function of the old, and a "Build Back Bankrupt" of the new.

And as long as it hits bottom explodes and disappears, there are dozens of ways that they could get it there, including a "hack attack" and blame it on the chinese and russians...

Great rant Lou...enlightening..
 

doctor_fungcool

TB Fanatic
True bear markets have a way of reducing those "buy the dip" folks into weeping puddles on the floor.

Only when the nuclear mushroom cloud clears and they have abandoned all hope does the actual bottom hit.

We might be entering into another such cycle.

Where is that Death Burger grill? In storage somewhere...
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The DEATHERBURGER Cafe..where mystery meat is served up by the pound and consumed by the unsuspecting
masses via technology and of course the mass(whore) media.
 

usmcpackrat

Veteran Member
True bear markets have a way of reducing those "buy the dip" folks into weeping puddles on the floor.

Only when the nuclear mushroom cloud clears and they have abandoned all hope does the actual bottom hit.

We might be entering into another such cycle.

Where is that Death Burger grill? In storage somewhere...


Being a small drop in today in the scheme of things I'll give you this.........


But I do miss those threads ohh so much....



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