CORONA Funeral home staff overwhelmed by waves of COVID-19 deaths

Troke

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Funeral home staff overwhelmed by waves of COVID-19 deaths
BY KHRISTOPHER J. BROOKS

JANUARY 15, 2021 / 4:31 PM / MONEYWATCH

Dutch Nie, who runs a small funeral home in Ann Arbor, Michigan, recounts the flood of calls from grieving families as the first wave of COVID-19 hit the U.S. last year. "In March and April, we saw a rise in the number of deaths right off the bat. Those were 18- and 20-hour days. It was difficult to turn off your brain."

Since then, the startling death toll from the coronavirus has put an even greater strain on many funeral homes across the U.S., with the daily number of fatalities topping 4,000 per day in January. Roughly 390,000 Americans have died in total, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention now projects up to 90,000 more deaths in the next three weeks alone.

As a result, funeral homes, crematories and other "last responders" are seeing soaring demand for their services, especially in coronavirus hotspots such as Los Angeles. A National Funeral Directors Association (NFDA) survey found that more funeral homes are cremating bodies instead of hosting casket burials, a quicker service amid the rising death toll.

"All hands on deck"
The need for funeral services means "sometimes not getting home and doing 20 hours of work and three hours of sleep," Hari Close, who owns a funeral service in Baltimore, Maryland, told CBS MoneyWatch.

That is taking a physical and emotional toll. Funeral home directors said they've had to put on a comforting smile in front of families while, behind the scenes, employees were scrambling to find personal protective equipment and mourning the COVID-19 deaths of colleagues.

Dutch Nie (center) discusses funeral service options for families with his staff members Kiki Rodgers and Meghan Reithel. The Nie Family Funeral Home in Ann Arbor, Michigan, has seen surging demand for its services because of COVID-19 deaths.

The increase in deaths has been particularly tough on family-owned funeral homes in small or rural communities because such businesses typically have fewer workers, funeral directors said.

"We're normally doing like 250 services a year, and we did 122 cases more than we normally do in 2020," Close said.

Richard New of Southern Oaks Funeral Home in Somerset, Kentucky, said his staff noticed the jump in families needing funeral services last October. Southern Oaks normally serves 300 or so families, New told CBS affiliate WYMT, but the funeral home handled nearly 400 funerals last year.

Nie, 56, said the onslaught means that some members of his eight-person team have often had to work 10-hour shifts on weekends. Efforts to hire more part-time and temporary workers were foiled because people didn't want to leave their homes due to the health risks.

"During the pandemic, there were firms that were doing their yearly call volume in three months," Nie said. "It's been all hands on deck and it's been overwhelming."

Funeral directors also said the pandemic has forced them to embrace technology and become more creative in how they interact with grieving families.

Traditional in-person funeral services, in which family members gather to mourn, have been mostly stopped due to social-distancing mandates. That also means loved ones cannot visit a funeral home office to make arrangements.

Funeral homes that were once hesitant to go virtual are now offering video-conference meetings and virtual tours of their showrooms. More funeral homes are posting prices on their website and taking payments over the phone. Almost half of NFDA members began live-streaming funeral services in 2020, the industry survey said.

"I've never been a real advocate for high-tech, but last year my staff finally convinced me so we do livestreaming now," Close said. "We can do it from our phones and at different locations."

Scott McBrayer of Jones-Wynn Funeral Home in Georgia walks clients through funeral service specifics while sitting on the family's front porch. Jones-Wynn started meeting families on their porch due to the coronavirus pandemic.

Jones-Wynn Funeral Homes and Crematory in Douglasville, Georgia, installed webcams for live-streaming last year, said its president, Ellen Wynn McBrayer. But the staff also continued to meet families at their homes, often on the front porch to lower risks of catching the virus.

"It has been an emotional journey to figure out how to care for families and their broken hearts," McBrayer said. "It's even harder during the pandemic because there are so many restrictions, and people can't come together like they used to."

Jones-Wynn's busiest period came last year. While the long days have been exhausting, "No matter how hard this is, no matter how many extra hours, no matter how many extra details, it's still not as hard as having to say goodbye to a loved one," she said.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Let's get some reality to thin out the smog.

In 2018 there were only 19,322 funeral homes in the entire USA. That is part of a downward trend so I don't know exactly how many they have at the moment.

The average funeral home in the United States handles about 113 calls every year. That supports the employment for three full-time workers and four part-time workers. (National Funeral Directors Association)

58% of funeral homes handle 150 cases or less each year. 8.5% of funeral homes handle 501 or more cases annually. (National Funeral Directors Association)

Funerals homes can easily be overwhelmed by normal events.
 

Macgyver

Has No Life - Lives on TB
So what I find interesting and confusing.
One of the msm idiots were saying someone dies from the Rona every 40 seconds in the US.
Quick Google search indicates that someone normally dies (natural and un natural) in the US every 10 seconds normally.

So where is the discrepancy?
 

Tristan

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Thank goodness that deaths from flu have virtually disappeared. (or so I've read...)

They'd really be in trouble if it was still circulating!
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
So what I find interesting and confusing.
One of the msm idiots were saying someone dies from the Rona every 40 seconds in the US.
Quick Google search indicates that someone normally dies (natural and un natural) in the US every 10 seconds normally.

So where is the discrepancy?
Uh, I am no math freak but that seems to work out to about a 20% increase in deaths which oddly enough is the figure being bandied about.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
Every household in my immediate family is quarantined with positive cases. We're at tier 3 going on tier 4 officially but I think it's worse than that. The local hospital just blew off one of mine with a severe case and it took frantic phone calls to other venues just to get a z-pack called in. I've been on the road all week dropping off vitamins and chicken soup. They don't look so good. I don't feel so good myself. We all had constant public exposure since day one, we're all essential workers, and suddenly we're all down at the same time. Except me. For now.

I personally know many people in our area who died from COVID. One lady lost five family members in days from early 30's to late 70's. My friends have it. Their friends have it. This second wave is transmitting like crazy.
 

Troke

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"...This second wave is transmitting like crazy..."

Well, we had warning there might be a more transmissible infection running loose. Looks like it hit your area. If it not a State Secret, could you tell us where that is? I might not want to go there.
 

KMR58

Veteran Member
I don’t buy it. I had a long conversation with a Director of a funeral home here in Michigan month ago. He is third generation. He said they are way down in the entire industry this year. When I asked him about the number of Covid deaths he laughed and said what a crock.
 

SmithJ

Veteran Member
I don’t buy it. I had a long conversation with a Director of a funeral home here in Michigan month ago. He is third generation. He said they are way down in the entire industry this year. When I asked him about the number of Covid deaths he laughed and said what a crock.
Yep, I’m expecting dead friends to walk up and tell me it’s a crock anytime now............
 

Troke

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I’m just relaying info. And overall deaths are down this year.
Anybody know this besides you? I think they are up, maybe over 10%.

 

Macgyver

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Uh, I am no math freak but that seems to work out to about a 20% increase in deaths which oddly enough is the figure being bandied about.
I was not implying the rona deaths are extra, the 1 ever 10 seconds was an over all figure.
 

Night Breeze

Veteran Member
No one getting sick with the flu this season. A miracle that the shot has been so effective this year. I wonder if maybe some covid deaths and cases are actually flu. Naw the science Joe is talking about would be transparent and would tell us if anything like that was happening. Anybody out there got the flu this season?
 

doctor_fungcool

TB Fanatic
I don’t buy it. I had a long conversation with a Director of a funeral home here in Michigan month ago. He is third generation. He said they are way down in the entire industry this year. When I asked him about the number of Covid deaths he laughed and said what a crock.

Agreed. Lots of stiff competition in the funeral business.
 

plantman

Veteran Member
Really? Something is killing those people in the nursing/retirement homes and I can't say I ever heard of such before.
Something is always killing people in nursing homes...well, everything is. Statistics don't lie. Rona is real but it's as generic of a virus as vanilla.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
Something is always killing people in nursing homes...well, everything is. Statistics don't lie. Rona is real but it's as generic of a virus as vanilla.
I have been arguing that if the virus did not kill in clusters, but was even spread across the population, we might not have noticed although I think we would have finally figured something was going on. But when somebody holds a Bridge gathering for four people and within six weeks, two in the hospital just hanging on and one dead, that attracts attention. And ditto nursing homes.

And I think we had a post here where five people in a family got wiped out. Plain vanilla virus?

Gee.
 

Betty_Rose

Veteran Member
Something is always killing people in nursing homes...well, everything is. Statistics don't lie. Rona is real but it's as generic of a virus as vanilla.

For five years, my Auntie was in a nursing home. Best as I could, I tried to be up there once a day, to join her for dinner or sometimes just to tuck her in and sing hymns to her as she fell asleep.

I got to know the other patients too.

Old folks are great but everything and anything will kill them. I saw a resident go outside briefly in her wheelchair and she became chilled. She said, “I think my trip outside is going to kill me.” She was dead in three days.

An upsetting phone call could push them over the edge. And loneliness? OMG. I saw them sobbing OFTEN because they were so lonely. The loneliness was the worst.

I’ve seen them begging God to let them go. I’ve seen them refusing medical treatment but to no avail. Old people aren’t the ones scared of death; it’s their families. The same families that visit them three times a year.

Old people have a very fragile constitution. They die from simple things ALL the time.

Isolating them without visitors is far worse than anything else that’s happening.
 

psychgirl

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Well, we just had a scare with my sister, so I know for a fact the regular flu IS also out there.

She was sick from New Year’s Eve into the next whole week...all flu symptoms plus diarrhea.

Due to her pre existing, doctor sent her to the hospital for big daddy covid test... but the kicker is, she’s not been in public AT ALL, except to either curbside pick up or dropping food off to her elderly mil.... even then she said she wears two masks, and gloves.


Test came back negative, after five days of waiting. Said she “somehow” picked up a normal flu bug. But... HOW and WHERE??

She’s still fatigued but feeling almost back to normal.
 

plantman

Veteran Member
I have been arguing that if the virus did not kill in clusters, but was even spread across the population, we might not have noticed although I think we would have finally figured something was going on. But when somebody holds a Bridge gathering for four people and within six weeks, two in the hospital just hanging on and one dead, that attracts attention. And ditto nursing homes.

And I think we had a post here where five people in a family got wiped out. Plain vanilla virus?

Gee.
I'm not saying it isn't real. The fact of the matter is, when rona had been in the US for a couple months, trained virologists showed there were all sorts of variants and it had mutated about 14 times. It's mutating now, that's what I mean by that, corona19 is a coronavirus, which is related to colds and flu's and is super common, like vanilla flavoring, it really is everywhere. For example, they give cows real coronavirus vaccines when they are calves and have been for a long time.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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I'm not saying it isn't real. The fact of the matter is, when rona had been in the US for a couple months, trained virologists showed there were all sorts of variants and it had mutated about 14 times. It's mutating now, that's what I mean by that, corona19 is a coronavirus, which is related to colds and flu's and is super common, like vanilla flavoring, it really is everywhere. For example, they give cows real coronavirus vaccines when they are calves and have been for a long time.

Yes, that's true. We used to use a killed virus rotavirus and Corona virus vaccine in valuable dairy calves. Saved a lot of calves.

But then There were the ferrets who got the first SARS-1 vaccine and either exposure to the virus or the second shot killed them all.

Similar issues in cats with a corona vaccine that got killed- but not before several test subjects died.

Very unpredictable things, are these coronavirii. And this one had help. And they are trying a previously untested vaccine TYPE... essentially brand new technology. It (the tech- I have little faith in the value of this vaccine) may turn out to be the best thing since sliced bread.

Forgive me if I wait for more data. Oh, no... really! I insist. There are so many who need it worse.

I pray it doesn't even get that far.

Summerthyme
 

plantman

Veteran Member
Very unpredictable things, are these coronavirii. And this one had help. And they are trying a previously untested vaccine TYPE... essentially brand new technology. It (the tech- I have little faith in the value of this vaccine) may turn out to be the best thing since sliced bread.

Summerthyme

Well, let's not even call it a vaccine shall we? It is in fact a gene therapy drug. Vaccines work on very basic principles and can be tested for efficacy after a short period of time by testing the blood for titers. But this nano soup, who knows what the hell it does, probably Windows ME. No thanks!
 

BUBBAHOTEPT

Veteran Member
Every year more people die than the year before, and every year our population increases. The data is out there, and even Google can’t make it that hard to get. Other deaths down Rona up. Numbers still relatively the same. Is it real, of course. Destroying America over it is right out of a Dystopian Playbook. Fauchi and his merry band of Techno Dems changed the way deaths from a virus were calculated; example, you go into Hospice to die, while there you are tested for Rona and have it, therefore, Death by Rona. One small change, but there are many more.
Oh hell, forget it, what is the point. I’ll shut up, believe whatever you want to. Maybe Uncle Joe will lock everyone down and end this argument....:kaid:
 

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Old Gray Mare

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Ok so at the time I knew this gentleman I lived in a very rural county. He operated one of the largest, if not the largest funeral home in said county. his "capacity" was not that great. He was talking about getting a walk in cooler/freezer/? to increase it.

Double dog, no, triple dog dare you to call a local funeral home and ask what their capacity is? It's probably not that high. This is 2021 not 1821 or 1921. It's not like funeral homes have to deal with smallpox, polio, typhoid or diphtheria epidemics taking out large numbers of the community at the sametime on a regular basis.
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
I was just thinking if say totally hypothetically, some institution had access to a bunch of unclaimed bodies of indigent, homeless or elderly. Said institution could pull up to a funeral home and guess what? Suddenly the homes overwhelmed with bodies!

In a medium to large city it probably wouldn't be to hard to do. Especially if that city has a inflated population of homeless, mentally unstable or illicit drug dependent.
 

Redleg

Veteran Member
Thank goodness that deaths from flu have virtually disappeared. (or so I've read...)

They'd really be in trouble if it was still circulating!
I was thinking about the flu. The Chinese flu and plain old flu are both caused by a virus. Can the test tell them apart? I think the test only test if a virus is present but not which one. I would think it would need to done with lab work to find what virus it is. That would take time and money to do so they call it Chinese flu and move on to the next patient. :hmm:
 

marymonde

Veteran Member
Really? Something is killing those people in the nursing/retirement homes and I can't say I ever heard of such before.

I talked to a man I worked with at a nursing home last year. I told him I recall one week last February 6 residents died of Flu A. He said you know what the flu death total was last year? 10 Flu B deaths November, 16 Flu A deaths in February. He said there have been covid deaths but not like last years flu. He did say there’s been zero flu cases this year. He laughed and said the flu just disappeared.

I’m not sure why people don't know this happens every year. I guess the media didn’t ever highlight it on the news.
 

Tex88

Veteran Member
As far as “funeral homes being overwhelmed because of COVID”, I know there were reports of “town” in “country” where the municipal funeral home was indeed overwhelmed by the number of corpses they had to process, and there where news up stacks and stacks of coffins in the hallways all over the news in that “country” with much clutching of pearls and gnashing of teeth... well as it turns out they used to “process”, read cremate, their corpses in the town across the border where it usually costs 1/10th and aren’t allowed to do this anymore because of COVID. So they have to do it themselves and can’t keep up.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
Well, I am sure glad to hear that the flu killed those people rather than Covid so we can quit worrying. But they are still dead.
 

Gardener

Senior Member
In the beginning of covid, deaths in the Detroit metro region were much higher than in the surrounding more rural areas. (Much higher population too, of course, but the percent of deaths was higher in Detroit.) The Detroit funeral homes and crematories were overwhelmed and asked for help from funeral homes in areas not hit so hard. The Metro area funeral home caseloads were up 20-30 percent in 2020. The further away from Detroit you get, the less that was true. Ann Arbor is fairly close to Detroit, and I'm not surprised their numbers were up.
I have family in the business.
 

marymonde

Veteran Member
Well, I am sure glad to hear that the flu killed those people rather than Covid so we can quit worrying. But they are still dead.

Troke reread your post I quoted:

“Really? Something is killing those people in the nursing/retirement homes and I can't say I ever heard of such before.”

All I did was tell you it has happened before. Just because you never heard of it, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Residents get viruses all the time, they lay in bed, they get pneumonia, they die. It happens every winter/spring. Most people that go into nursing homes, don’t go home. It’s a fact. Nursing homes take care of sick people who are susceptible to contracting secondary illnesses that can kill them. It’s how most of them go. It’s not pleasant, it’s terribly sad, but death is part of nursing home daily life.
 
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