WAR France Declares War Against al-Qaida

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France declares war against al-Qaida
By Elaine Ganley, Associated Press Writer – Tue Jul 27, 6:57 pm ET


PARIS – France has declared war on al-Qaida, and matched its fighting words with a first attack on a base camp of the terror network's North African branch, after the terror network killed a French aid worker it took hostage in April.

The declaration and attack marked a shift in strategy for France, usually discrete about its behind-the-scenes battle against terrorism.

"We are at war with al-Qaida," Prime Minister Francois Fillon said Tuesday, a day after President Nicolas Sarkozy announced the death of 78-year-old hostage Michel Germaneau.

The humanitarian worker had been abducted April 20 or 22 in Niger by al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb, and was later taken to Mali, officials said.

The killers will "not go unpunished," Sarkozy said in unusually strong language, given France's habit of employing quiet cooperation with its regional allies — Mauritania, Mali, Niger and Algeria — in which the al-Qaida franchise was spawned amid an Islamist insurgency.

The Salafist Group for Call and Combat formally merged with al-Qaida in 2006 and spread through the Sahel region — parts of Mauritania, Mali and Niger.

Officials suggest France will activate accords with these countries to stop the terrorists in their tracks.

"It's a universal threat that concerns the entire world ... not just France or the West," Defense Minister Herve Morin said Tuesday on France-2 television. "We will support local authorities so these assassins and (their) commanders are tracked, judged and taken before justice and punished. And, yes, we will help them."

Algeria, Mauritania, Mali and Niger in April opened a joint military headquarters deep in the desert to respond to threats from traffickers and the al-Qaida offshoot. U.S. Special Forces have helped the four nations train troops in recent years.

The United States said it would help the French "in any way that we can" to bring those who killed Germaneau to justice, according to U.S. State Dept. spokesman P.J. Crowley.

"There is no religion that sanctions what can only be described as cold-blooded murder," Crowley said Tuesday.

Fillon refused to say how France would act. "But we will," he said in an interview with Europe 1 radio.

And perhaps it already has. On Thursday, the French backed Mauritanian forces in attacking an al-Qaida camp on the border with Mali, killing at least six suspected terrorists. It is the first time France is known to have attacked an al-Qaida base.

France said it was a last-ditch effort to save its citizen, while Mauritania said it was trying to stop an imminent attack by fighters gathering at the base.

For the French, the move may have backfired. The al-Qaida group said in an audio message broadcast Sunday that it had killed Germaneau in retaliation for the raid. However, French officials suggested, however, that the hostage, who had a heart problem, may already have been dead. Even now, "We have no proof of life or death," Morin said.

"We can expect an increase in the French riposte," said Antoine Sfeir, an expert on Islamist terrorists who has traveled in the region.

An estimated 400-500 such fighters are thought to roam the Sahel region, a desert expanse as large as the European Union.

Despite meager numbers, the region's al-Qaida fighters pose a clear threat. Among the more recent victims, a British captive was beheaded last year and two Spanish aid workers were taken hostage in Mauritania in November. Spain is working to free them. Mauritanian soldiers also have fallen in numerous attacks.

The head of the French Institute of Strategic Analysis suggested the French government's rhetoric was normal.

"It's important to make that kind of announcement," Francois Gere said. "I think it's made of the same stuff" as former U.S. President George W. Bush's tough line on al-Qaida.

But "a government has to make clear it must respond strongly" while maintaining the discretion needed to ensure cooperation, Gere said. In the past France has been cautious because those governments don't want the appearance of interference from the West, he said.

Spain has maintained a low profile as videos by the al-Qaida franchise regularly call for the conquest of "al-Andalus" — a reference to the period of Muslim rule of much of Spain in medieval times.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100727/ap_on_re_eu/eu_france_al_qaida_hostage
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Considering the moves by the French Government to push some assimilation upon the Muslim population of the country, this move is definitely going to be something to watch, particularly with regards to the HLM (habitation à loyer modéré), zones urbaines sensibles ("sensitive urban areas"), quartiers dits sensibles ("neighbourhoods deemed sensitive") or "the Banlieue", ou dans l'Américain "the Projects".
 

dawnbringr

Veteran Member
French declare war ?? SAY WHAT ??

"France declares war against al-Qaida"

Geez,, I've got to believe that Al-Qaida is about to implode
and surrender...

Or more likely,, the french (lower case intended) will maybe
send a couple of observers over to Afghanistan to monitor
the situation, to show everyone how committed they are -
and then blame the United States for screwing everything up.

:screw:

Now that I think of it,, there was a scene in "the Patriot" where
Mel Gibson's character was told the french were coming.. and he
gave the guy the "oh Christ" look. :lol:

Call me crazy, but I think the french have been a bunch of *uck-ups
since the beginning of recored history.... :usfl:
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
"France declares war against al-Qaida"

Geez,, I've got to believe that Al-Qaida is about to implode
and surrender...

Or more likely,, the french (lower case intended) will maybe
send a couple of observers over to Afghanistan to monitor
the situation, to show everyone how committed they are -
and then blame the United States for screwing everything up.

:screw:

Now that I think of it,, there was a scene in "the Patriot" where
Mel Gibson's character was told the french were coming.. and he
gave the guy the "oh Christ" look. :lol:

Call me crazy, but I think the french have been a bunch of *uck-ups
since the beginning of recored history.... :usfl:

FYI...the French component of the ISAF consists of 2900 troops on the ground including the Legion and French Marines.
 

dawnbringr

Veteran Member
??

"FYI...the French component of the ISAF consists of 2900 troops on the ground including the Legion and French Marines."

And ?
 

NoPlugsNM

Deceased
Give it a couple weeks and you'll see classified ads run by the french that read . . RIFLES FOR SALE . . never fired . . only dropped twice.


NP
 

TidesofTruth

Veteran Member
Its a sad day when the French have more guts declaring it a WAR when this panty waste American Administration will not dare , running into the night screaming, peeing on themselves in fear of such a word.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Its a sad day when the French have more guts declaring it a WAR when this panty waste American Administration will not dare , running into the night screaming, peeing on themselves in fear of such a word.

Recall a couple of years ago Sarkozy was the one to say that the Iranians might well need to be dealt with via nuclear strike which got the UK, EU and U.S. leadership apoplectic.
 

mt4design

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Considering the moves by the French Government to push some assimilation upon the Muslim population of the country, this move is definitely going to be something to watch, particularly with regards to the HLM (habitation à loyer modéré), zones urbaines sensibles ("sensitive urban areas"), quartiers dits sensibles ("neighbourhoods deemed sensitive") or "the Banlieue", ou dans l'Américain "the Projects".

Yeah... what you said.

They have a huge problem on their hands at home.

Apparently, AQ #2 Zawahiri just popped up with a message promising more attacks on the U.S. too.

The move by the French to be so "open" about this move makes me wonder if it wasn't prompted by some intel having to do with attacks here.

Mike
 

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Heliobas Disciple

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Yeah... what you said.

They have a huge problem on their hands at home.

Apparently, AQ #2 Zawahiri just popped up with a message promising more attacks on the U.S. too.

The move by the French to be so "open" about this move makes me wonder if it wasn't prompted by some intel having to do with attacks here.


Mike


BINGO.

Zawahiri's tape ends with threats against France for the headscarf ban. Timing wise, the Zawahari tape came out first (late Monday our time) - so while it looks like this is a response to the murder of the French man by the AQ splinter group - once Zawahiri essentially declared war on France from AQ central - France had nothing to lose by declaring it back. (no extra consequences at this point).

For the complete transcript of Zawahiri's tape, see this post in the BS:

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showpost.php?p=3810599&postcount=389


For just those excerpted parts of the transcript dealing specifically with France (and the USA) go here:

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showpost.php?p=3811001&postcount=392

HD
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Considering the French "footprint" on the African continent from its Colonial period and the history of the French using "direct action" against guerrilla and terrorist groups, Zawahiri and the Al Qaeda affiliated movements in the region may very well have bitten off more than they bargained for...recall that this is the country that sent in a team to limpet mine Green Peace and sent in the 2eme REP to Nigeria using borrowed parachutes and transport aircraft.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Posted for fair use.....
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j-e28ggAncgCw1V0uuGqpt1S31OQD9H9DLRG3

Sarkozy threatens immigrants who target police
(AP) – 3 hours ago

PARIS — President Nicolas Sarkozy says he wants to revoke the French citizenship of immigrants who put police officers' lives in danger.

Sarkozy said Friday in a speech in Grenoble that French nationality should be revoked "from any person of foreign origin who voluntarily threatens the life of a police officer" or other public authority.

The southeastern city saw clashes this month between youths and police at a housing project that is home to many immigrants after a resident suspected in a casino armed robbery was killed while fleeing police. Some youths allegedly fired on police.

Tensions have simmered in projects around France since nationwide riots in 2005.

Sarkozy says France is "suffering the consequences of 50 years of insufficiently regulated immigration."

Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
 

Cyndryn

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Posted for fair use.....
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j-e28ggAncgCw1V0uuGqpt1S31OQD9H9DLRG3

Sarkozy threatens immigrants who target police
(AP) – 3 hours ago

PARIS — President Nicolas Sarkozy says he wants to revoke the French citizenship of immigrants who put police officers' lives in danger.

Sarkozy said Friday in a speech in Grenoble that French nationality should be revoked "from any person of foreign origin who voluntarily threatens the life of a police officer" or other public authority.

The southeastern city saw clashes this month between youths and police at a housing project that is home to many immigrants after a resident suspected in a casino armed robbery was killed while fleeing police. Some youths allegedly fired on police.

Tensions have simmered in projects around France since nationwide riots in 2005.

Sarkozy says France is "suffering the consequences of 50 years of insufficiently regulated immigration."

Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

...and we're on the road to suffer the same. :dstrs:
 
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