ECON Forced to Retire, Some Take Social Security Early

Chair Warmer

Membership Revoked
Forced to retire, some take Social Security early
By MATT SEDENSKY, Associated Press Writer – Sun Aug 8, 6:01 pm ET

MIAMI – Paul Skidmore's office is shuttered, his job gone, his 18-month job search fruitless and his unemployment benefits exhausted. So at 63, he plans to file this week for Social Security benefits, three years earlier than planned.

"All I want to do is work," said Skidmore, of Finksburg, Md., who was an insurance claims adjuster for 37 years before his company downsized and closed his office last year. "And nobody will hire me."

It is one of the most striking fallouts from the bad economy: Social Security is facing a rare shortfall this year as a wave of people like Skidmore opt to collect payments before their full retirement age. Adding to the strain on the trust are reduced tax collections sapped by the country's historic unemployment — still at 9.5 percent.

More people filed for Social Security in 2009 — 2.74 million — than any year in history, and there was a marked increase in the number receiving reduced benefits because they filed ahead of their full retirement age. The increase came as the full Social Security retirement age rose last year from 65 to 66.

Nearly 72 percent of men who filed opted for early benefits in 2009, up from 58 percent the previous year. More women also filed — 74.7 percent in 2009 compared with 64.2 percent the previous year.

Jason Fichtner, an associate commissioner at the Social Security Administration, said the weak economy has led more people who lost their jobs to retire early. However, it also has forced some people hard-hit by the recession and in need of a bigger paycheck to push back retirement and stay in the work force longer.

"But we're seeing more people taking early benefits than staying in the workforce longer," Fichtner said.

Like Skidmore, 63-year-old Jan Gissel of Tustin, Calif., also was forced into retirement early. She turned to unemployment benefits when her technical support business failed and filed for Social Security last September. Together, the checks are keeping her afloat.

"I knew I had to have an income from somewhere, and my business wasn't giving it to me," she said. "I just went online and, boom, three weeks later I had the check."

Gissel wants to continue working but still hasn't found a job. Although she didn't expect to be cashing Social Security checks so soon, she's grateful for the support it has provided.

"I needed it way earlier than I thought," she said.

In the annual report of the Social Security program released Thursday, the trustees said that pension and disability payments will exceed revenues for this year and 2011, reflecting the deep recession.

The report forecast that the program would return to the black in 2012 through 2014, but that benefit payments will again exceed tax collections in 2015. For every year after 2015, the report projects that Social Security will be paying out more than it receives in tax collections as 78 million baby boomers begin retiring.

The trustees did not focus on the growth of early retirees in their report, as they don't expect the early retirees to significantly drain funds over the long-term. Early opt-ins receive smaller monthly checks so that they aren't projected to receive any more money over a lifetime than they would if they had waited to collect Social Security until their full retirement age.

People entitled to full benefits at 66 would receive 75 percent of their check if they began collecting four years early. Conversely, if they waited until they turned 70, collecting four years late, they would earn 32 percent more.

They would receive the decreased — or increased — percentages for the rest of their life.

"From the trustees' perspective it's a wash, because they calculate you'll get the same total benefit," said Maria Freese, director of government relations and policy at the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare.

Freese added, though, that beneficiaries generally only opt in early because they have to.

"When you retire early, you are taking a hit in your monthly check, and most people don't do that voluntarily," she said. "They either do that because they aren't healthy enough to keep working or because they lost their job."

Nora Lopez, 62, of Hialeah, Fla., retired from her job as an elementary school teacher last year and began collecting Social Security. She did so, in part, because of health problems. When her school district offered teachers the option of keeping their health insurance coverage until they qualified for Medicare at 65, she decided she could get by on her pension and Social Security.

"I wanted to work as long as I could," she said. "But it was hard for me to do that."

For some, it's simply a matter of doing the math that prompts them to cash in early. Jack Dixon, 63, of Naples, Fla., stopped working full-time in April as a trolley driver and tour guide, cutting back to one day a week. He decided to do it after his wife figured out they'd be able to get by even with the reduced Social Security benefit.

"Why should I go out there to the hustle and bustle and stress and all the stuff that's related to work if I don't have to?" he asked.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100808/ap_on_re_us/us_social_security_early_retirees
 

Indiansummer

Inactive
I took early retirement last year for most of the same reasons listed above.

Look you guys, i'm still only 56, my backs broken, my mind is bent, and I know my retirement is screwed. So, now what? A DAY LATE AND DOLLAR SHORT? THINK I AM SURPRIZED? NOT. Good thing is I love rice.
 

Nuthatch

Membership Revoked
Yep, got my annual report---will get 1100 bucks a month if I wait the the 24 years to retire at 70....what a joke.
 

Indiansummer

Inactive
Yep, got my annual report---will get 1100 bucks a month if I wait the the 24 years to retire at 70....what a joke.

24 years? You're kidding? Heck mine says if I am disabled I get almost $1000.00 per month. That's more than I make now!:lkick:

Know of any USA based factories that will pay a machine operator not less than $15.00 ph? You can't live on less by the time they take out your health ins. costs biweekly, then your taxes. I live on 72 hrs. biweekly, at less than $9.00 ph.

So for you all thinking that the minimum wage hike was too much, well, give it a try. I earn every stinking penny I'm paid, the rest is pride and charity. No Joke. I give every space in the hospital to the very highest, and take great pains to maintain a level of respectability, befitting an established local hospital, on a level that meets at the least, and excedes at the moderate expectations on every level; from HR to PEON's, to patients. I am well appreciated for my efforts, considering my lowly expression of excellence. In All Things, Give Glory.
 
My dad will likely do the same thing when his plant locks the doors next year. If they lock the doors early, then his SS claim could happen sooner. He's only in his low 60s, but with all the factories and steel shops in his town closed now, it looks like he has limited options. He's a work-aholic, but he'll have to make himself busy on his own.

It's really sad to see how my once booming hometown is now a ghost of its former self. Crime is now rampant because no one has jobs. Meth is the work-at-home opportunity that many have selected. This was true even when the nation's economy was doing well, it's just more obvious now. We used to live across the street from a meth lab (for about 1 1/2 years). I was really shocked by how many men and women the age of my parents and grandparents were involved.

Meanwhile, the local teachers can't understand why they are being asked to pay more for their health insurance (they still have $5 prescription copays and employees pay no premiums) and they are upset that their pay is frozen. Meanwhile, the people they are working for have literally nothing-- no jobs, no insurance, no hope. I saw a teacher post on a news thread about this topic that 'maybe the locals who are complaining should have gone to college'. Guess what, teacher . . . many of them did-- and they still have no income! I really don't dislike teachers. Many of my husband's family teach. It is just the holier-than-thou, people-owe-me attitude that some of them are exuding right now. They think they are immune-- they'll soon learn that even teachers are expendable when the coffers are empty.

Sorry for the rant. I'm just stressed at the rapid decline of our country. If things are this bad now, I worry about how awful it will be for my children. :shk:
 

momof23goats

Deceased
this is why dh went on the road driving truck, all jobs dried up around here, and we are trying for him to stay employed until he is at least 66.
so we can get draw the full amount.
 
My dad will likely do the same thing when his plant locks the doors next year. If they lock the doors early, then his SS claim could happen sooner. He's only in his low 60s, but with all the factories and steel shops in his town closed now, it looks like he has limited options. He's a work-aholic, but he'll have to make himself busy on his own.

It's really sad to see how my once booming hometown is now a ghost of its former self. Crime is now rampant because no one has jobs. Meth is the work-at-home opportunity that many have selected. This was true even when the nation's economy was doing well, it's just more obvious now. We used to live across the street from a meth lab (for about 1 1/2 years). I was really shocked by how many men and women the age of my parents and grandparents were involved.

Meanwhile, the local teachers can't understand why they are being asked to pay more for their health insurance (they still have $5 prescription copays and employees pay no premiums) and they are upset that their pay is frozen. Meanwhile, the people they are working for have literally nothing-- no jobs, no insurance, no hope. I saw a teacher post on a news thread about this topic that 'maybe the locals who are complaining should have gone to college'. Guess what, teacher . . . many of them did-- and they still have no income! I really don't dislike teachers. Many of my husband's family teach. It is just the holier-than-thou, people-owe-me attitude that some of them are exuding right now. They think they are immune-- they'll soon learn that even teachers are expendable when the coffers are empty.

Sorry for the rant. I'm just stressed at the rapid decline of our country. If things are this bad now, I worry about how awful it will be for my children. :shk:
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
People entitled to full benefits at 66 would receive 75 percent of their check if they began collecting four years early. Conversely, if they waited until they turned 70, collecting four years late, they would earn 32 percent more.

75 percent of something now is far better than 100% of NOTHING later on. And Social (In)Security is already in the red. Anyone here really believe it will be there for them when they retire in 10- 15- 20 years?

Then see http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=367647 ...

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