Blacknarwhal
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Got nothing more to help than an amen for what's already gone up.
PRYR RQST For oldest grandson
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Granny Franny
Senior Member
Prayers sent up for your grandson and family. May God shine his love and healing on all of them.
Tennessee gal
Veteran Member
Praying for your grandson and his parents.
AddisonRose
On loan from Heaven
Praying for God’s divine wisdom and healing.
Laurane
Canadian Loonie
Has he been tested by Autism/learning problems….. I have a step grandson who tested IQ like that, and finally went to pro tester & found that his emotional problems were compounded by High functioning autism at such a high level he was so frustrated at school because of boredom & the interaction with teachers who did not challenge him
He went to a therapist who explained that though he was smart he still needed to conform to “societal” behaviours and showed him how to do that & cope with other people who cared about him.
He is now a pretty well adjusted almost 15 year old chess champ with an average in sciences/math if 110% as he does bonus questions. He chats with other kids as well as adults & seems to have learned parameters he can fit into.
He takes no medication at all …. I hope it is something like that with your grandson. He maybe just needs to find the diagnosis
2dollarbill
Veteran Member
Prayers for you girl, may you stay strong for the family.
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patriotgal
Veteran Member
We have a bipolar teen in the family. Meds and a real therapist have been a big help. Praying for you and your whole family as you navigate this latest detour. When the tb2k folks pray, things happen and you have a wall of prayer here to help hold you up. Love and hugs.
SNOWSQUAW
Veteran Member
Lord Jesus, please surround this boy with your Angels of protection. I pray he would come to full understanding and belief in you somehow via this process. Please protect and strengthen him and his family- Including our lovely Summerthyme. In JESUS MIGHTY NAME AND UNDER THE BLOOD OF JESUS. AMEN
momma_soapmaker
Disgusted
Prayers for him and all of you, Summerthyme. May God send a grounded individual to intervene, and cover your grandson with a hedge of protection.
Signwatcher
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Definitely praying for your grandson and his parents. Have had issues with my Kids in the past. It's SO tough to get the proper help inside the system.
Adding grandparents into the prayers, as IKHII being on that side as well.
Adding grandparents into the prayers, as IKHII being on that side as well.
I've got to say that one of the biggest answers to our prayers this morning was when agnostic son-in-law finished the group text to the rest of the family asking everyone to "please pray for us"! I've NEVER heard him mention prayer before! He's a super guy, wonderful husband and father, but apparently his family had some bad experiences at church when he was a boy, and they walked away from all of it.
He also convinced our saved daughter that it's not valid.
Interestingly, grandson's best friend is a pastor's son, and he's been going to church with him for several years. Not sure if that's still going on, but we've been praying steadily that he would hear the Gospel and accept Christ, and bring the whole family back to God.
I do remember saying to hubby several years ago, that as much as I hated to think it, maybe this kid's problems would become overwhelming enough that they'd realize they needed something bigger than themselves to handle it..
Thank you,, all! I KNOW prayer works. And I'm leaning on God's promise that He doesn't allow any troubles without giving us the strength to handle them. I love this group!
Summerthyme
He also convinced our saved daughter that it's not valid.
Interestingly, grandson's best friend is a pastor's son, and he's been going to church with him for several years. Not sure if that's still going on, but we've been praying steadily that he would hear the Gospel and accept Christ, and bring the whole family back to God.
I do remember saying to hubby several years ago, that as much as I hated to think it, maybe this kid's problems would become overwhelming enough that they'd realize they needed something bigger than themselves to handle it..
Thank you,, all! I KNOW prayer works. And I'm leaning on God's promise that He doesn't allow any troubles without giving us the strength to handle them. I love this group!
Summerthyme
PrairieMoon
Veteran Member
Prayers for you and your family, Summerthyme!
Dear Lord, we lift up Summerthyme’s grandson. We ask that you, as “Doctor Jesus” touch, heal, and restore this lad to the way he should be. We know it is not Your will that he, or his family, be in distress.
We give You thanks and praise, O Lord, for your mercy love, kindness, and protection. We ask Your protection as time goes forth, for not only the lad, but his family. Thank-You, Lord- All Glory, Honor, and Praise to You! -Amen-
Now to the Deceiver, the Accuser, The Attacker and Killer of the Innocent- Satan!
Satan, We Command You, in the Name Above All Names, That of Jesus Christ, The Only Begotten Son of God, The King of Kings, The Lord of Lords, The Alpha and The Omega, He Who Must Be Obeyed to the Glory of The Father- You May Not Have This Lad, or Any Member of His Family. They Are Protected By The Blood of the Lamb of God! No Weapon Formed Against Them Shall Prosper! You, and Your Minions MUST Leave Them Alone and Unharmed. In Jesus’ Name, So Mote It Be!!!
Father God, please stand Your mighty angels round about Summerthyme’s family, all members, and keep a Your hedge of protection about them. We give You all the thanks and glory, O Lord. Amen.
OA
SurvivalRing
Rich Fleetwood - Founder - author/coder/podcaster
My prayers for you and your family. I’ve shared about my youngest grandson, and his struggles with autism, adhd, and extreme bipolarism.
His occasional violent outbursts greatly concern us, because unless we can get his meds balanced, and the proper inpatient/residential long term help and guidance, we worry he’ll be institutionalized…
We also believe he has issues with paranoid schizophrenia, as his father (daughter’s ex-husband) has a severe case of it. He’s currently in jail (again) in Southeast Colorado in his hometown, for domestic violence on his current girlfriend. HIS mom had severe mental issues and self medicated, which eventually killed her.
Grandson is eleven, and has been in and out of behavioral hospitals a couple dozen times in the past six years. I had to take him again late Saturday night to the Wyoming Behavioral Institute in Casper, a five hour round trip there and back. We arrived just before midnight, and I got home just after two am.
Before taking him to Casper, he’d been in the local hospital in a safe room…one that he couldn’t hurt himself in. He had been having hallucinations, first at home, then at the hospital…”seeing a man come in through the wall…”. This wasn’t the first time he’s seen things no one else could…
He spent eight months at St. Joseph’s Children’s Home in the Eastern Wyoming. This facility used to be an orphanage ages ago, and is currently operating as a psychiatric hospital…
From their site…
“Saint Joseph's Children's Home is a private, non-profit psychiatric residential treatment facility (PRTF) for youth ages six through seventeen that has been providing quality services to youth and families since 1930.”
If you look at some Google reviews, the staff seem to have a very physically abusive culture, which grandson talked about several times. That truly concerns me, that sending him there only made things worse.
Six weeks ago, he was expelled for a full year for verbalizing a threat to a kid who was bullying him and some of his friends. His sixth grade IEP requires the school district to educate him …period.
He’s been spending his school days here, and accessing class via Zoom…with a school-provided Chromebook. It’s been hit and miss most days with tech issues that have tried my patience because there are several issues with the laptop that causes the connections to drop several times a day. It’s certainly not our 100 mbps internet speed.
During an all hands meeting at the middle school, including teachers, counselors, principal, district managers, and even the school resource officer, attended by my daughter and I, the suggestion for long term residential help at a place called the Huntsman Institute in SLC was brought up…
Their site…
healthcare.utah.edu
Their facility is almost five hours from home, and regular visits would be greatly restricted due to costs and time off.
One of the teachers described how a couple of students had been there, and that it greatly helped them when they returned to classes, but that’s all we’ve heard about it.
In all, we’ve spent the last several years seeking any kind of help, psychological evaluations, psychiatric guidance, etc., trying all kinds of meds (his therapist suggested trying Adderall to his med collection this past Wednesday)…and we now feel like we’re spinning our wheels.
It’s just another hard ball lobbed at the side of the barn…with the conversation (which I was in for the first time since he started) sounding like he wasn’t listening to what is actually happening to, and with, dear grandson..
We’re now at our wits end, but I think we can see it in the distance..heading our way with no brakes or lights…just pure D chaos.
I love grandson with all my heart, and I’d give anything and everything to help him.
My own history with him since I came home crippled from the work related wreck in 2018, put me in the hospital in late June 2018, and seeing my own therapists ever since. We’ve done much better the past four months.
Again, most humble prayers for you and yours, to all traveling this path right now…I’ve never seen a societal flood of these kinds of issues in my life…and it’s very worrisome in my eyes..,
His occasional violent outbursts greatly concern us, because unless we can get his meds balanced, and the proper inpatient/residential long term help and guidance, we worry he’ll be institutionalized…
We also believe he has issues with paranoid schizophrenia, as his father (daughter’s ex-husband) has a severe case of it. He’s currently in jail (again) in Southeast Colorado in his hometown, for domestic violence on his current girlfriend. HIS mom had severe mental issues and self medicated, which eventually killed her.
Grandson is eleven, and has been in and out of behavioral hospitals a couple dozen times in the past six years. I had to take him again late Saturday night to the Wyoming Behavioral Institute in Casper, a five hour round trip there and back. We arrived just before midnight, and I got home just after two am.
Before taking him to Casper, he’d been in the local hospital in a safe room…one that he couldn’t hurt himself in. He had been having hallucinations, first at home, then at the hospital…”seeing a man come in through the wall…”. This wasn’t the first time he’s seen things no one else could…
He spent eight months at St. Joseph’s Children’s Home in the Eastern Wyoming. This facility used to be an orphanage ages ago, and is currently operating as a psychiatric hospital…
From their site…
“Saint Joseph's Children's Home is a private, non-profit psychiatric residential treatment facility (PRTF) for youth ages six through seventeen that has been providing quality services to youth and families since 1930.”
If you look at some Google reviews, the staff seem to have a very physically abusive culture, which grandson talked about several times. That truly concerns me, that sending him there only made things worse.
Six weeks ago, he was expelled for a full year for verbalizing a threat to a kid who was bullying him and some of his friends. His sixth grade IEP requires the school district to educate him …period.
He’s been spending his school days here, and accessing class via Zoom…with a school-provided Chromebook. It’s been hit and miss most days with tech issues that have tried my patience because there are several issues with the laptop that causes the connections to drop several times a day. It’s certainly not our 100 mbps internet speed.
During an all hands meeting at the middle school, including teachers, counselors, principal, district managers, and even the school resource officer, attended by my daughter and I, the suggestion for long term residential help at a place called the Huntsman Institute in SLC was brought up…
Their site…
Huntsman Mental Health Institute
Behavioral mental health services are provided at University Neuropsychiatric Institute located in Research Park by University of Utah. We specialize in treatment for all ages, all types of mental health conditions and disorders.
Their facility is almost five hours from home, and regular visits would be greatly restricted due to costs and time off.
One of the teachers described how a couple of students had been there, and that it greatly helped them when they returned to classes, but that’s all we’ve heard about it.
In all, we’ve spent the last several years seeking any kind of help, psychological evaluations, psychiatric guidance, etc., trying all kinds of meds (his therapist suggested trying Adderall to his med collection this past Wednesday)…and we now feel like we’re spinning our wheels.
It’s just another hard ball lobbed at the side of the barn…with the conversation (which I was in for the first time since he started) sounding like he wasn’t listening to what is actually happening to, and with, dear grandson..
We’re now at our wits end, but I think we can see it in the distance..heading our way with no brakes or lights…just pure D chaos.
I love grandson with all my heart, and I’d give anything and everything to help him.
My own history with him since I came home crippled from the work related wreck in 2018, put me in the hospital in late June 2018, and seeing my own therapists ever since. We’ve done much better the past four months.
Again, most humble prayers for you and yours, to all traveling this path right now…I’ve never seen a societal flood of these kinds of issues in my life…and it’s very worrisome in my eyes..,
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luluwhtbrd
Veteran Member
Been there with our son! Took a few years into teen years for him to see HE had to learn self control and self restraint! Oh and respect for those he lives with!
ioujc
MARANTHA!! Even so, come LORD JESUS!!!
Prayers for your grandson and his family, as well as you and your hubby. I am so sorry to hear this.
Prayers will continue that the LORD will place HIS hand on this situation and bring healing and comfort, as well as HIS peace.
Prayers on-going.......
Prayers will continue that the LORD will place HIS hand on this situation and bring healing and comfort, as well as HIS peace.
Prayers on-going.......
Doc1
Has No Life - Lives on TB
summerthyme,
You made reference to your agnostic son-in-law and that brought to mind an episode I had with my (deceased) son when he was a small boy.
I don't remember how the conversation started, but somehow we began talking about God and whether or not he was real. I am not a theologian, but something possessed me to reach down to the ground and pick up a fallen leaf. I asked him, "Can you make one of these?"
He seemed to be a bit confused by the question, so I elaborated. I explained that leaves were one of the simpler creations on Earth. Still, I pointed out, no one has ever been able to create one. I said that I didn't mean to clone a leaf, as scientists might do with DNA manipulation, but to create an actual living and dying leaf from scratch. I explained that no one has ever been able to create a leaf and if science couldn't create something as simple as a leaf, how could science question the existence of God.
I think that conversation made an impression on him and upon further reflection, realized that it was probably a good conversation to have with the world at large. The hubris of science - and by extension the agnostics and atheists in the world - is staggering. People who cannot so much as make an amoeba, often presume to tell us that there is no God.
Best
Doc
You made reference to your agnostic son-in-law and that brought to mind an episode I had with my (deceased) son when he was a small boy.
I don't remember how the conversation started, but somehow we began talking about God and whether or not he was real. I am not a theologian, but something possessed me to reach down to the ground and pick up a fallen leaf. I asked him, "Can you make one of these?"
He seemed to be a bit confused by the question, so I elaborated. I explained that leaves were one of the simpler creations on Earth. Still, I pointed out, no one has ever been able to create one. I said that I didn't mean to clone a leaf, as scientists might do with DNA manipulation, but to create an actual living and dying leaf from scratch. I explained that no one has ever been able to create a leaf and if science couldn't create something as simple as a leaf, how could science question the existence of God.
I think that conversation made an impression on him and upon further reflection, realized that it was probably a good conversation to have with the world at large. The hubris of science - and by extension the agnostics and atheists in the world - is staggering. People who cannot so much as make an amoeba, often presume to tell us that there is no God.
Best
Doc
JasmineAndLace
Senior Member
Sending prayers for your grandson and all the family. Very difficult issue to deal with.
Pat Hogen
Contributing Member
There is a lot of work being done to include the use of psilocybin in mental health. Psilocybin is a natural extract from a fungus. Its uses are just now being explored under trial and research. It may be useful to you to look at the research being done. Saving your grandson is paramount. I have a grandson that is also showing a borderline genius trait that I am watching carefully. Currently his behaviour is not erratic, he is just a bit "passed" most people.
I offer my strength in awareness.
www.hopkinsmedicine.org
I offer my strength in awareness.
Johns Hopkins Center for Psychedelic and Consciousness Research
The Johns Hopkins Center for Psychedelic and Consciousness Research is leading the way in exploring innovative treatments using psilocybin.
