FOOD Food and Privacy: Does anyone care?

I just went to the Federal Register and out of almost 312,000,000 Americans (approximately), some of which have been fighting NAIS/Traceability since it became public, to date, precisely 8 people have made comments. This proposed regulation is the third pillar of NAIS: surveillance, allot of surveillance. With it privacy will become dead in America. Farmers make up 1% of the American population (given, some of those are agribusiness) but the Federal Register should be flooded. If you are not a farmer you are not off the hook. You eat.

Collecting, sharing, and keeping all your records for 150 years! Implementation of NAIS/Traceability. Privacy.

Does anyone care?

You can comment until December 28th and then it is a done deal. You can write: I oppose and sign your name. Please spend five minutes for liberty. Give something to our country for the many blessings we have enjoyed up until this time.

http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?main=DocketDetail&d=APHIS-2010-0007
 

Vicki

Girls With Guns Member
I care David and I'm sure many others care as well. Many people are not inclined to put their names on any lists at this point in time. To me the way to fight this intrusion into our lives is locally. They show up demanding you comply to something you know nothing off and didn't agree to it, call your family, call your friends and call your neighbors. What else can we really do but band together to help each other?
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
The government cannot show a compelling interest for doing these things and taking your Liberties from you! In other words the government when challenged in a court of law (Quo-Warranto) must show a constitutional authority for taking these liberties and or constitutionally protected rights, and not just twisting the wording to fit their agenda. The United States Constitution limits what government can do and some parts of the constitution even goos as far to state what they cannot do.
 

Ben Sunday

Deceased
I care David and I'm sure many others care as well. Many people are not inclined to put their names on any lists at this point in time. To me the way to fight this intrusion into our lives is locally. They show up demanding you comply to something you know nothing off and didn't agree to it, call your family, call your friends and call your neighbors. What else can we really do but band together to help each other?

Agree with Vicki on this. For me, I'm not willing to sign anything political or controversial ESPECIALLY if the Fedgov is going to be the end recipient.

Rally around. Make your presence felt and your voices heard. Other options are getting thin, imo.
 

Grammytomany

Inactive
I do make our food concerns known. I believe, if we care about what is going into our bodies through food, we had better stand up and be counted. Don't worry, they already know who every one of us are who are on these forums. We don't have much worth coming to take from us except our lives and those are getting pretty useless now. I worry about taking my donated organs before I am on the other side. (really). I was recently in the hospital for more heart issues and had to lay flat and not move anything for 6 hours and the nurse was very kind and attentive. I asked her what she did before she was in the heart op section and she said she was taking the organs from those who had "brain dried". They were technically alive but their brains had died. REALLY!!!! Does anyone know if the brain dead person knows what is going on??? They would not be sedated??? YIKES.
 

changed

Preferred pronouns: dude/bro
People care, but everyone has the feeling that whatever they do won't matter. Our elected officials don't listen.
 
Oy! We have a Republic until we voluntarily consent to give it up. Unless we participate in our Republic form of government, our heritage, until we consent to another form of government. That is what they have been chipping away at...our voluntary consent....and changing our culture to love they chains that bind us.

If folks who are aware of what is going on (this forum and others) hang their heads and let evil cut us down who is there to protect liberty for our children and grandchildren? I agree with grannytomany. By the very fact that you are on this forum, I can assure you that you are on "the list". Where will you flee? One goal of this proposal is to seize and capture all the rest of your data they do not already have. They will know where you you are, what your assets are, how you behave, what you spend your money on, etc... This will not be like the Holocaust where you can hide in a hay-loft.

How do I know? Before opposition and "confidentiality" I did FOIA's and public disclosure and obtained thousands of people's "dossier's". I also had employment that dealt with seizure and capture of your data, among other things.

What will y'all eat? No food will be safe.

We primarily need to live victoriously, in that way we defeat those who would kill body and soul. That said, I would encourage each soul to consider the courage to stand up and be counted, participating in liberty and freedom which is an eternal concept and granted to us by God. In the past I would say your position did not matter to the powers-that-be BUT now we have a window of opportunity. It does matter. Things changed. Government as it consolidates is down-sizing. They cannot survive a rally of the people due to the economic downturn.

Heads up: If you are Believer's 2012 ushers in (through proposed regulations) a universal religion which proposes to change our culture and be generational. They are evil to the core and are death-based (as grannytomany is discovering). It was alluded to in the past but it will be in your face beginning in 2012.

(Don't answer this online but ask yourselves) How will you stand?

We all die, but do we die with courage or cowardice?

From the trenches of liberty,
Celeste
 

Be Well

may all be well
People care, but everyone has the feeling that whatever they do won't matter. Our elected officials don't listen.

I clicked the link to see how to make a comment, if it could be anonymous, etc and I couldn't even figure out how to make a comment?
 
Thank you so much for taking a few minutes to protect the protection of all of our personal information. To make it anonymous just put in a fake name and city or state.

Go to: http://www.regulations.gov/#!docketD...PHIS-2010-0007

Under Document Type: Click Public Submission (the first box) and Proposed Rule (last box)

Then click on Comment Date: December 28, 2011

It will take you to your personal comment screen.

You will need to include your name and state. The rest I was able to enter Private. They are collecting all information that you on this form and adding it to your personal file that contains all of your captured and seized information (no kidding) from all sources.

You only have 20 minutes to fill the form out and comment. What I do is make a Word document, then in the general comment field I say "see attached".

Fill out their verification number

Attach the document on what you want to say. (Feel free to copy anything from my Memorandum); Always put: For the Record on what you say or it can 'disappear'.

Press enter or you can mail it snail mail also.

A screen will pop up with your personal number for reference and that your comment has been received. I would copy that number in case you never see your comment appear. There have been many cases of missing testimony and you have to push to get them to locate it.

It may take some time (days) depending who you are for your comment to appear. They feel it is their 'job' to make it look like nobody is interested to discourage people.

Thank you for taking the time,
Celeste
 

Be Well

may all be well
Thank you. I will pass this on to someone I know with a news list. And I'll make a comment, although at this point I think they could get 200 million comments and not change a thing. But at least I'll have my say.
 

Grammytomany

Inactive
When I call their offices in our State or at the DC level....they see your phone #, address and names automatically. We must take care of the future generations. Really. No GMO's. No sprays that go into the food. Why do so many children have diseases that we never heard of in the past and are now knows by the thousands??? I can't be sure of course, but I suspect much has to do with what they are being fed physically ....even through breast feeding .....and I am very concerned with what they are being fed Literally in school from K on through college. Such garbage!!! We are too old to make a difference but you are all pretty young. I am a very, very non-confrontational person, but I do LOVE my GOD and my Country. If I cannot stand up and say so, who will??? One of my son's has already given his life for the love of this country and I will do no less if I am capable.
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
Sent the link to yet another radio talk show with thousands of listeners. Pretty sure it will be discussed on this show soon.
 

I agree. I just finished wading through the whole 150 of proposed regulations, whew! The good news is that they gave us their faults, shortcomings, etc on a silver platter... and it includes "Gaps may exist in our authority." Many of these proposed regulations they are not even going to address until 2013 providing us with a window of opportunity to turn the tide and challenge their authority.

From the trenches of liberty,
Celeste
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
I agree. I just finished wading through the whole 150 of proposed regulations, whew! The good news is that they gave us their faults, shortcomings, etc on a silver platter... and it includes "Gaps may exist in our authority." Many of these proposed regulations they are not even going to address until 2013 providing us with a window of opportunity to turn the tide and challenge their authority.

From the trenches of liberty,
Celeste


Picking your words carefully will go a long way in sending these laws to the dumpster.
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
There are people who are concerned about all of this and doing something about it. The link in my sig line has a lot of information available on this and other Liberty preserving subjects. Our Stevens County Assembly has been working on a county ordinance to be presented to the county commissioners for acceptance. We have had a petition drive, symbolic as it is not for registered voters, but all citizens over 18 who reside on Stevens County to sign. I'll see if I can get the ordinance up in it's entirety it can be tweaked for individual counties all across the nation to help make the job easier-we were fortunate in having one extremely hard working member take on the wording and make sure it's in acceptable ordinance language.
For a PDF of the below ordinance, go here. And check out www.stevenscountyassembly.com for info on other issues being tackled by concerned citizens, use them for your area. Thanks for bringing this all to everyone's attention Celeste, we appreciate it!

BEFORE THE BOARD OF STEVENS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
ORDINANCE NO. _________________
STEVENS COUNTY LOCAL FOOD FREEDOM ORDINANCE.
11/11/11

WHEREAS, the people of the State of Washington, domiciled on Stevens County, have unalienable and
fundamental rights and among those rights are the rights to choose the local foods they produce; process
or prepare; sell, purchase, or distribute; preserve and store for extended periods of time; and consume, for
food or drink, for people or other life forms.

WHEREAS, the people of the State of Washington domiciled on Stevens County, declare:

(1) The Tenth Amendment to the Constitution for the United States of America, states, “The powers not
delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved
to the States respectively, or to the people”; and

(2) That pursuant to Article 1,, Section 8, Clauses 1 – 16, of the Constitution for the United States of
America, there is no power granted to the federal government to regulate local foods on Stevens
County; and

(3) The Ninth Amendment to the Constitution for the United States of America, states, “The
enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others
retained by the people.” and

(4) That pursuant to the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to the Constitution for the United States of
America, the power to regulate local foods on Stevens County is reserved to the State of
Washington or the people of the State of Washington; and

WHEREAS, the people of the State of Washington domiciled on Stevens County, declare:
(1) Treaties do not override the Constitution for the United States of America. See Reid v. Covert, 354
U.S. 1 (1956) at 17, “This Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the
Constitution over a treaty.” and

(2) That the object of treaties is the regulation of intercourse with foreign nations, and is external; and

(3) That pursuant to Article 1, Section 8, Clauses 1 – 16, of the Constitution for the United States of
America, there is no power granted to the federal government to regulate local foods on Stevens
County by treaty.

WHEREAS, the people of the State of Washington domiciled on Stevens County, declare: That Stevens
County, State of Washington, is without the jurisdiction of Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, and Article 4,
Section 3, Clause 2, of the Constitution for the United States of America; and

WHEREAS, we find the preamble to the Constitution for the State of Washington, states, “We, the people
of the State of Washington, grateful to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe for our liberties, do ordain this
constitution.” and

WHEREAS, we find the Constitution for the State of Washington, article 1, section 1, states, “All political
power is inherent in the people, and governments derive their just powers from the consent of the
governed, and are established to protect and maintain individual rights.” and

WHEREAS, we find the citizens absolute, individual, natural, unalienable, and fundamental rights originate
from “the Supreme Ruler of the Universe” and not from the Constitution for the State of Washington, or the
government it created; or from the Constitution for the United States of America, or the government it
created, and

WHEREAS, we find the Constitution for the State of Washington, article 1, section 29, states, “The
provisions of this Constitution are mandatory, unless by express words they are declared to be otherwise.”
and

WHEREAS, we find the Constitution for the State of Washington, article 1, section 32, states, “A frequent
recurrence to fundamental principles is essential to the security of individual right and the perpetuity of free
government.” and

WHEREAS, we find the Constitution for the State of Washington, article 1, section 30, states, “The
enumeration in this Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny others retained by the
people.” and

WHEREAS, we find the Constitution for the State of Washington, article 1, section 30, does not attempt to
enumerate all the unalienable and fundamental rights of citizens.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED by the Board of County Commissioners of Stevens County, State
of Washington that, the citizens of the State of Washington, domiciled on Stevens County retain the
following unalienable and fundamental rights to:

(1) Cultivate and raise local foods of their choice; and
(2) Process or prepare local foods of their choice; and
(3) Sell, purchase, or distribute local foods of their choice; and
(4) Choose local foods that nurtures their health and nourishes their bodies; and
(5) Unimpeded access to a wide variety of local foods of their choice; and
(6) Preserve as much local food as they deem necessary for themselves and their families; and
(7) Store preserved local foods for extended periods of time, as deemed necessary for themselves and
their families; and
(8) Support local open pollinated seed banks, and to grow, process, store, sell, purchase or exchange
open pollinated seeds, of their choice.

STATEMENT OF PURPOSE: It is the purpose of this ordinance to protect the unalienable and
fundamental rights of the people of the State of Washington, domiciled on Stevens County, to choose the
local foods they produce; process or prepare; sell, purchase, or distribute; preserve and store for extended
periods of time; and consume, for food or drink, for people or other life forms; and their rights to open
pollinated seeds.

SECTION 1. DEFINITIONS: For purposes of this ordinance,
“Citizens” means the people of the State of Washington, domiciled on Stevens County.
“Constitution for the United States of America” means the organic Constitution ratified on September 13,
1788 and The First Ten Amendments (the Bill of Rights) ratified on December 15, 1791.
“Local food” means the raising and cultivation of animals, plants, fungi, fish, fowl, insects (such as the
honey bee) and other life forms for food, drink, fiber, and other products used to sustain life, cultivated on
the soil of Stevens county, for people and other life forms on Stevens county.
“People” means that select and limited class of citizens who are the repository of sovereignty (Preamble to
the Constitution for the State of Washington), and the source of government power (Constitution for the
State of Washington, Article 1, Section 1).

SECTION 2. ENFORCEMENT CLAUSE:
(a)(1) The people of the State of Washington domiciled on Stevens County, declare that any law
enacted by the congress of the United States; any federal regulation, rule, or policy
promulgated; any executive order issued by the president of the United States; any court
decision; and any treaty, that seeks, purports, or is otherwise intended to regulate the
unalienable and fundamental rights of the people on Stevens County to choose the local foods
they produce; process or prepare; sell, purchase, or distribute; preserve and store for extended
periods of time; and consume, for food or drink, for people or other life forms, is not authorized
by the Constitution for the United States of America; and

(2) The people of the State of Washington domiciled on Stevens County, declare any federal law,
rule, policy, executive order, court decree, or treaty, referred to in Section 2(a)(1):
(A) Will not be recognized by Stevens County; and
(B) Are specifically rejected by Stevens County; and
(C) Are null and void, having no effect on Stevens County.

(b) The Stevens County Sheriff and Prosecutor have the duty to, and are empowered to, stand
between the people and the federal government and they will not allow the enforcement of
unconstitutional federal laws or foreign treaties on Stevens County.
(c) The Stevens County Commissioners, Sheriff, and Prosecuting Attorney, have the duty to protect
and defend, and neither arrest nor prosecute, citizens for exercising the above stated unalienable
and fundamental rights to local foods; and
(d) The people of the State of Washington, domiciled on Stevens county, have the duty to claim,
exercise and defend, in a court of competent jurisdiction, their unalienable and fundamental rights
to local foods.

SECTION 3. PENALTY CLAUSE:
(a)(1) It is unlawful for public employees employed at the federal level, including, but not limited to,
agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Department of Homeland Security, Food and
Drug Administration, to enforce or attempt to enforce any federal law, rule, policy, executive
order, court decree, or treaty referred to in Section 2(a)(1); and

(2) A violation of this subsection is a class B felony.
(b)(1) It is unlawful for a person knowingly to conspire to violate subsection (a)(1) of this section.
(2) A violation of this subsection is a class C felony.

SECTION 4. CIVIL RECOVERY: An aggrieved citizen/citizens may bring a private action against a person
or persons who violates the provisions of Section 2(a)(1).

SECTION 5. SEVERABLILTY: If any section, subsection, paragraph, sentence, clause, or phrase of this
ordinance is declared unconstitutional or invalid for any reason, such decision shall not affect the validity
of the remaining parts of this ordinance.

SECTION 6. PRECEDENCE: This ordinance will take precedence over all ordinances or parts of
ordinances or resolutions in conflict herewith, and to the extent that they do conflict with this ordinance,
they are hereby repealed with respect to the conflict and no more.

SECTION 7. SHORT TITLE: This ordinance shall be known as the Food Freedom Ordinance and may be
cited as such.

EFFECTIVE DATE: This ordinance shall take effect upon signature and publication.
Passed by the Board of Stevens County Commissioners meeting in regular session meeting in Colville,
Washington, by the following vote, then signed by its membership and attested to by its Clerk in
authorization of such passage the ____ day of ______________, 20___.
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
Something else that needs to be said.

Yes, signing this may get you on 'a list', but you know what? They are coming for you, and you will die at their hands a slave or a prisoner whether you sign this or not. They'll come for you whether you are against them or for them, if you fight you may have a chance to live in a free society again. Staying quiet only puts off the culling a little longer, making a stand gives strength in numbers. Fear creates a divide, that divide makes it easier for them to conquer. They really do want you dead, starvation would suit them fine.

The time to fight is now. Make up your mind that you are drawing your line in the sand. Pray to God for strength, wisdom, guidance and His protection, we're fighting against satan ultimately.
 

WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
The time for fighting them with petitions, protests, words, and votes has long passed. None if it will matter. When people call their congressmen 300 to 1 against the BailOut and they do it anyone, words mean nothing to them, written or spoken.
 
Au contraire! The government just provided us on a silver platter their weaknesses. I just crunched the words and now it is time to let folks know over the next couple weeks that contrary to the past decades our voice does count now! I have never seen anything like it. They basically told us how to defeat them all we have to do is DO IT.

From the trenches of liberty,
Celeste
 
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