OT/MISC Five Household Cavalry horses, one soaked with blood, have run loose in central London after throwing their military riders this morning

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
I have been around too many horses that just go lunatic fringe for no apparent reason.
Owner has said it.

"Horses are not dogs. Dogs almost never turn on its owner. A horse you have to treat with the knowledge and respect that ANY force of nature commands."

And - having lived my life on the other side, I can affirm the knowledge and respect is mutual - as is the nature part apply for humans.

From what I see and know, Dogs are subservient to humans - they do what humans command.

The relationship for equine is more of a "partnership."

At least that is my perspective.

Still, Owner doesn't ask me if its time to change his car oil...

I'm not sure he would want my opinion if I had one. In fact, Owner doesn't ask me about ANYTHING.

Well, I do what I can...

Dobbin
 

Greenspode

Veteran Member
Agreed, it's a strange event. But SOMETHING caused at least one horse to rear & buck off their rider, spreading to the horses nearby.
Highly unlikely that it was a rear or a buck. Those would be defiant or malicious moves....very unusual in a well schooled horse. Most falls are due to spooks, which can be VERY hard to sit if out of the blue and extreme. My mare has a lightening fast 180' spook, followed by a bolt. Nothing malicious about it...she is happy for my to accompany her as she flees from perceived danger...if I can stay on that initial spin! lol.

Horses are flight animals, and their very existence today is a result of their ancestors reacting quick enough to NOT get eaten at the watering hole. Some are more twitchy than others, but generally a spook is the result of an unknow threat, or a potential threat that was very close when it was spotted, and they react before identifying the threat, as a delay in determining friend or foe can mean death in their minds.

Could have been something as simple as someone opening an umbrella unexpectedly, a loud noise, or the dreaded plastic bag/tarp blowing in the wind!

One horse spooks hard, rider comes off, horse bolts, and the herd safety mentality kicks in with the others reacting to perceived danger. As herd animals, if one goes, the rest assume there is a good reason and they go too....without asking questions.

Seriously, this is not at all an unusual circumstance, even for well schooled horses and riders. Nothing even mysterious about it. This could easily be considered a normal occurrence with horses.
 
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Greenspode

Veteran Member
I have been around too many horses that just go lunatic fringe for no apparent reason. To be such smart animals (well, most of the time) they can go into “deer waiting for you to drive by so it can crash into your car” stupid in a heartbeat.
There's ALWAYS a reason. The art of horsemanship is understanding what the reason was, and how to overcome it.

And yes, stupid in a heartbeat is the nature of the beast with horses! Horses come into this world suicidal. It is the caretakers/riders/trainers job to talk them off regular, proverbial, ledges!
 

Greenspode

Veteran Member
This brings to mind a funny experience I had about 8 years ago.

I was in need of a foxhunting horse for the season, and a local-ish riding school I taught at regularly had a school horse that was in need of some remedial ground education. She was a BIG girl...3/4 spotted draft, 16.3, and every bit of 1600 lbs. She had gotten a little pushy on the ground with the students, and needed to get some more jumping mileage, but was a sensible soul and a very comfy ride, so I took her for a year to train in exchange for using her to hunt.

I kept her at a farm nearby that was more convenient for hunting than my place, and that farm had a dog. Now, dogs are no big deal, and she had been around MANY dogs, including foxhounds. She and this dog got along just fine....until that dog needed some stitches and came home with a cone on his head.

Well, that was just too much for this mare to take. She lost her ever-loving mind. If that dog even came into her view with that cone, she was GONE, and at her size so was anything she was attached to. If I was ON her, I could ride out the bolt, but there was no reasoning with her. She was NOT going home if that dog was in sight. If I wasn't on her, well she was just gone. It really became quite a dangerous situation, which was shocking because she wasn't a spooky horse generally.

Even after that cone came off, she never trusted that dog again, and I will admit I had more than one scary moment, and more than one injury, as a result of this dog/cone/horse situation. It kind of rained on our picnic for several months, until she eventually returned home....ground manners much improved...as long as no cones were involved!
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
This brings to mind a funny experience I had about 8 years ago.

I was in need of a foxhunting horse for the season, and a local-ish riding school I taught at regularly had a school horse that was in need of some remedial ground education. She was a BIG girl...3/4 spotted draft, 16.3, and every bit of 1600 lbs. She had gotten a little pushy on the ground with the students, and needed to get some more jumping mileage, but was a sensible soul and a very comfy ride, so I took her for a year to train in exchange for using her to hunt.

I kept her at a farm nearby that was more convenient for hunting than my place, and that farm had a dog. Now, dogs are no big deal, and she had been around MANY dogs, including foxhounds. She and this dog got along just fine....until that dog needed some stitches and came home with a cone on his head.

Well, that was just too much for this mare to take. She lost her ever-loving mind. If that dog even came into her view with that cone, she was GONE, and at her size so was anything she was attached to. If I was ON her, I could ride out the bolt, but there was no reasoning with her. She was NOT going home if that dog was in sight. If I wasn't on her, well she was just gone. It really became quite a dangerous situation, which was shocking because she wasn't a spooky horse generally.

Even after that cone came off, she never trusted that dog again, and I will admit I had more than one scary moment, and more than one injury, as a result of this dog/cone/horse situation. It kind of rained on our picnic for several months, until she eventually returned home....ground manners much improved...as long as no cones were involved!
The cone fear is the limitation to "line of sight." I can see flies on my butt without turning my head. (much)

Steps down (i.e. stepping over curbs) another matter. With limited binocular vision forward I can't tell "depth."

I marvel a bit when I consider how I have learned how to use a stylus at the computer keyboard. I do it entirely by "muscle memory" - and without me actually looking at the keyboard except in general outline.

Dern sticky keys - how I get capitalization without pressing the "shift" key - sometimes it "sticks" on. (press your shift key 5 times to engage "sticky keys" and see how it works.)

Dobbin
 

Greenspode

Veteran Member
The cone fear is the limitation to "line of sight." I can see flies on my butt without turning my head. (much)

Steps down (i.e. stepping over curbs) another matter. With limited binocular vision forward I can't tell "depth."

I marvel a bit when I consider how I have learned how to use a stylus at the computer keyboard. I do it entirely by "muscle memory" - and without me actually looking at the keyboard except in general outline.

Dern sticky keys - how I get capitalization without pressing the "shift" key - sometimes it "sticks" on. (press your shift key 5 times to engage "sticky keys" and see how it works.)

Dobbin
What ST said. The mare would have worn a cone happily....in fact she was trained to drive and was fine with blinders.

It was the dog and his cone that set her off. He walked kind of staggery and crooked, like dogs in cones will do, and she was having no part of it!!
 

Elza

Veteran Member
My horse, Miss Silly was a Mustang that the cowboys hated but she was a great hunter. She thought that the cows should run where ever they went so she could chase them. One day because of another horse it broke my chinch and the saddle spun under Miss Silly. She stood absolutely still while I got untangled. Silly was the smartest horse I ever owned .
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfCJljLHkmw
 

jward

passin' thru
Thanks for adding the additional articles @WalknTrot and all the personal experience, @Greenspode
-those poor horses were not a reassuring sight to start off the day- and @danielboon reporting that the clock was also being uncharacteristically stuck on 9-11 really lent another layer of "WTF"?! to the events

Sounds like it was a rare, but easily explainable event in response to some particular stimulus' that the horses were not trained to ignore.
Now, once we learn all of them are back in the barn and fully healed, I'll be happy.
 

Thinwater

Firearms Manufacturer
I have owned 39 horses due to my (late) wife's love of them. Over 8:years she suffered a broken collar bone, spine (neck), wrist, 11 breaks in 7 ribs, punctured diaphragm, two sprained ankles and innumerable bruises. She always said it was not the houses fault because (insert excuse here).

I do not desire to lay eyes on another horse ever again for any reason.
 

Greenspode

Veteran Member
I have owned 39 horses due to my (late) wife's love of them. Over 8:years she suffered a broken collar bone, spine (neck), wrist, 11 breaks in 7 ribs, punctured diaphragm, two sprained ankles and innumerable bruises. She always said it was not the houses fault because (insert excuse here).

I do not desire to lay eyes on another horse ever again for any reason.
Lol.

I have been a professional trainer/instructor in the equine industry for over 40 years. I have broken: Left ankle 3 times, right ankle twice (broke them both at once one time), broken jaw, broken nose 4 or 5 times, ribs on at least 8 occasions, vertebrae twice (always in multiples), tib/fib, wrists 6 or 7 times, fingers more times than I can count, collar bone, multiple bones in both feet a number of times, and the distal head of my femur, along with my patella. In addition I have been knocked unconscious at least 12 times, had a lacerated spleen and a punctured lung.

90% of the time it's just horses being horses.

ETA broken orbital socket.
 

Delta

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Owner has said it.

"Horses are not dogs. Dogs almost never turn on its owner. A horse you have to treat with the knowledge and respect that ANY force of nature commands."

And - having lived my life on the other side, I can affirm the knowledge and respect is mutual - as is the nature part apply for humans.

From what I see and know, Dogs are subservient to humans - they do what humans command.

The relationship for equine is more of a "partnership."

At least that is my perspective.

Still, Owner doesn't ask me if its time to change his car oil...

I'm not sure he would want my opinion if I had one. In fact, Owner doesn't ask me about ANYTHING.

Well, I do what I can...

Dobbin

Back when I was a cowboy, I hated coming off a horse. But hated being stuck on a runaway horse even more (especially going through low limbs). The most interesting was one rearing over backwards--with me underneath. (My only regret on that one was not being armed--would have shot it. Boss told me later it had killed its previous two owners doing that very thing.) Wife rode, but I haven't been back on a horse in 50 years!

I don't recall a special shoe for pavement. But I put a lot of hard facing on shoes intended for granite. Those shoes were always interesting after dark because of the sparks.

I was crossing a road with a string of pack animals (horses and mules) when an approaching truck driver took his foot off the pedal--causing the jake brake to come on, and the entire string went over backwards and landed on a parked car. Of course I didn't have paper or pencil so scratched a "the horses did it" message and a phone number with a shoeing nail in the paint.
 

Walrus

Veteran Member
I have owned 39 horses due to my (late) wife's love of them. Over 8:years she suffered a broken collar bone, spine (neck), wrist, 11 breaks in 7 ribs, punctured diaphragm, two sprained ankles and innumerable bruises. She always said it was not the houses fault because (insert excuse here).

I do not desire to lay eyes on another horse ever again for any reason.
Having been raised horseback almost every day when school wasn't running until finally getting out of high school and off the ranch, there's only a few things I can say about horses.

1. Incredibly social animals even when they're mean as a cougar.
2. Some of the best bucking broncs I've ever seen started their working lives as cattle horses.
3. They're going to get you sooner or later during your life, and bones are broken during those events.
99% of the time usually your bones.
4. Like them or not, the oat burners are indispensable when working on a cattle ranch - a string of good cattle horses is just an everyday tool which you have to use often or else there'll be a heck of a rodeo about to happen if you've not ridden one of them in a while.

I wish I knew more about draft horses but never have even handled a team pulling a wagon or skidding logs. Probably would mean more bones broken if I started learning now.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
For me it was too many young and green WB's, off the track TB's, spoiled rotten horses with owners in over their heads, and jumping many, many very big jumps. Shit happens when you ride 10-12 a day, and compete 5 or 6 every weekend, for a decade or two!
Got by easy because I drove for the last 20. Still subject to the usual ground hazards around horses, but driving is a lot easier on the old bod unless something goes wrong - then, it's almost always gone REALLY wrong, and you have a good chance of dying.
:lol:
Given the choice, would still much rather fall off a saddle horse than be in a driving wreck/runaway. (shudder)
 

Thinwater

Firearms Manufacturer
Lol.

I have been a professional trainer/instructor in the equine industry for over 40 years. I have broken: Left ankle 3 times, right ankle twice (broke them both at once one time), broken jaw, broken nose 4 or 5 times, ribs on at least 8 occasions, vertebrae twice (always in multiples), tib/fib, wrists 6 or 7 times, fingers more times than I can count, collar bone, multiple bones in both feet a number of times, and the distal head of my femur, along with my patella. In addition I have been knocked unconscious at least 12 times, had a lacerated spleen and a punctured lung.

90% of the time it's just horses being horses.

ETA broken orbital socket.
One of my wife's horses that was normally good natured (for a horse) reared up and kicked our trainer in the face when he sprayed fly spray on it. It nearly killed him. We sold her very well trained mustang to a professional cowboy rodeo rider. He was very good and could make an untrained horse look like it had been well trained. After several weeks the house flipped over backwards to get him off, crushing him under it. It broke his back and he is a paraplegic now.

As I think about my experiences with horses, I actually despise them. I could ride fairly well, have amazing balance and never got hurt on one despite them trying to kill me on several occasions. I will never, ever get on one again and will try, hard to never be near one again. If I do it is because SHTF, and not to ride it, but to eat it.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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99% of the time, if someone gets hurt, it's because they misread the situation, didn't pay attention to clues/warnings the horse was trying to give- or had an animal panic on them. There isn't much you can do in the latter situation, but it is one of the main reason responsible instructors teach how to do an emergency dismount fairly early. I've seen panicked horses running completely blind, and it can be really ugly.

Once I was in our small village, having just taken our 3 month old daughter for a checkup. I suddenly heard hoofbeats.. but not the usual measured trot of an Amish buggy horse...this was a wild gallop. I looked up just in time to see a foam flecked horse, wild eyed and dragging parts of a buggy, sweep past me. A mile up the road was the entrance to a 4 lane highway.

I tossed the baby into the car seat, jumped behind the wheel and raced after the horse. Thankfully, it was a typically sleepy midday, and I was able to drive on the left side of the road, flashing my lights at the couple of cars heading my way (and being country folks, they immediately pulled over, out of the way). I got in front of the horse after 3/4 of a mile, and then slowed my car down. Bang! The horse ran into the back of our little station wagon, cracking the rear window. Running blind, indeed!

I eventually was able to slow the animal enough, pull off the road and grab the reins. I brought her into a parking lot, and started walking her to cool her down, while waiting for the cops and to find out where the rest of the buggy was!

It turned out a couple small, yappy dogs had run out and jumped at the horse's front legs and head as they were trotting by. She spooked, landed in the ditch, leapt back out, breaking the traces and one shaft off, and throwing the occupants, including a heavily pregnant young woman and her 2 year old toddler into the street.

She then ran 2 1/2 miles down the main street between two small villages, somehow without causing any more damage.

I've only broken one bone... and that was because my idiot adopted brother thought it was funny to spook my little mustang mare when I was sitting on her backwards, just messing around. I broke my right upper arm in 3 places.,

But I've had horses fall on me, step on me and charge over the top of me. I guess I've been fortunate I bend, and don't break! One of the most memorable incidents was when I was riding my retired Thoroughbred race horse over jumps, and just when we were at the peak over a 4'6" oxer (2 bar jump, so they have to jump wide, not just high)... my stirrup broke! Not the stirrup leather... the actual metal stirrup! I probably weighed 110#, soaking wet, so it clearly wasn't my weight that did it! I walked away with bruises, but my dad went out the next day and spent $50 ( in 1974, you could board a horse for a month for that!) on top quality stainless steel stirrups for me. I still use them to this day.

The most important thing I keep impressing into my little granddaughters is that horses are prey animals. Their superpower is their speed... the one thing they know to do if they get frightened is to run... as fast and far as they can.

One of the saddest stories I heard was about a pony who could outjump most thoroughbreds. I was trying to find out what happened to him, but I could barely believe the awful story. He spooked one day during a routine training session (they thought he may have been stung), jumped out of the arena, dumping his rider... and then ran blind until he ran into the metal siding of the barn wall, breaking both front legs

Summerthyme
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Steps down (i.e. stepping over curbs) another matter. With limited binocular vision forward I can't tell "depth."

Dobbin
Which makes me now feel sorry for horses in westerns, which invariably at some point are directed to go down a MUCH too steep hill, one that they can't so much "walk" down as do small "falls" down---fallSTOP, fallSTOP, fallSTOP.

They surely must be terrified to be made to do that, if they can't tell depth....?
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Which makes me now feel sorry for horses in westerns, which invariably at some point are directed to go down a MUCH too steep hill, one that they can't so much "walk" down as do small "falls" down---fallSTOP, fallSTOP, fallSTOP.

They surely must be terrified to be made to do that, if they can't tell depth....?
Those movie horses' work is highly regulated/supervised these days, and they are really well trained.
Falling down is just another day on the job for them. Sliding/jumping down hills on their haunches, pretty much the same.

As far as being scared - not if they've never been hurt, and the wranglers/trainers go out of their way to see that doesn't happen.
 

Luddite

Veteran Member
I love horses.
If they're cooked properly.

I've known many people hurt on a horse. Far better ways to get from point A to point B.

Back when I did square bales of hay I would always initiate any new helper. Every other bale went to the left side of the barn. When curiosity made them ask why we were doing that I say horse hay on the left . Cow hay on the right.

When asked why I told them horse hay is 2 dollars more per bale. Horse people won't buy cheap hay.

We always laughed and laughed.

Eta: I have considered buying a calm sure footed mule. I've spent good days hunting from a mule. If I did buy one he'd always be one mistep from a bullet behind the ear.
 
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Greenspode

Veteran Member
99% of the time, if someone gets hurt, it's because they misread the situation, didn't pay attention to clues/warnings the horse was trying to give- or had an animal panic on them. There isn't much you can do in the latter situation, but it is one of the main reason responsible instructors teach how to do an emergency dismount fairly early. I've seen panicked horses running completely blind, and it can be really ugly.

Once I was in our small village, having just taken our 3 month old daughter for a checkup. I suddenly heard hoofbeats.. but not the usual measured trot of an Amish buggy horse...this was a wild gallop. I looked up just in time to see a foam flecked horse, wild eyed and dragging parts of a buggy, sweep past me. A mile up the road was the entrance to a 4 lane highway.

I tossed the baby into the car seat, jumped behind the wheel and raced after the horse. Thankfully, it was a typically sleepy midday, and I was able to drive on the left side of the road, flashing my lights at the couple of cars heading my way (and being country folks, they immediately pulled over, out of the way). I got in front of the horse after 3/4 of a mile, and then slowed my car down. Bang! The horse ran into the back of our little station wagon, cracking the rear window. Running blind, indeed!

I eventually was able to slow the animal enough, pull off the road and grab the reins. I brought her into a parking lot, and started walking her to cool her down, while waiting for the cops and to find out where the rest of the buggy was!

It turned out a couple small, yappy dogs had run out and jumped at the horse's front legs and head as they were trotting by. She spooked, landed in the ditch, leapt back out, breaking the traces and one shaft off, and throwing the occupants, including a heavily pregnant young woman and her 2 year old toddler into the street.

She then ran 2 1/2 miles down the main street between two small villages, somehow without causing any more damage.

I've only broken one bone... and that was because my idiot adopted brother thought it was funny to spook my little mustang mare when I was sitting on her backwards, just messing around. I broke my right upper arm in 3 places.,

But I've had horses fall on me, step on me and charge over the top of me. I guess I've been fortunate I bend, and don't break! One of the most memorable incidents was when I was riding my retired Thoroughbred race horse over jumps, and just when we were at the peak over a 4'6" oxer (2 bar jump, so they have to jump wide, not just high)... my stirrup broke! Not the stirrup leather... the actual metal stirrup! I probably weighed 110#, soaking wet, so it clearly wasn't my weight that did it! I walked away with bruises, but my dad went out the next day and spent $50 ( in 1974, you could board a horse for a month for that!) on top quality stainless steel stirrups for me. I still use them to this day.

The most important thing I keep impressing into my little granddaughters is that horses are prey animals. Their superpower is their speed... the one thing they know to do if they get frightened is to run... as fast and far as they can.

One of the saddest stories I heard was about a pony who could outjump most thoroughbreds. I was trying to find out what happened to him, but I could barely believe the awful story. He spooked one day during a routine training session (they thought he may have been stung), jumped out of the arena, dumping his rider... and then ran blind until he ran into the metal siding of the barn wall, breaking both front legs

Summerthyme
Yeah....broken equipment is no fun! Especially at that moment!

I am of mixed mind about the emergency dismount. I teach it, and the kids are pretty good at it, but I will NEVER do one again. Used to do them from time to time, but I broke both ankles at the same time just doing a normal dismount after a morning breezing 6 or 7 at the track. It was COLD out and I couldn't really feel my feet. I no longer dismount normally, but sort of swing down gently now. I have had quite a few adults seriously hurt just practicing it, and had my barn manager blow out her knee 2 years ago EDing off a rank customers horse that was in for evaluation. 3 surgeries later and she still can't ride. I think her knee is never going to be right which is sad...she is only in her late 20's and was a very good rider.

Truthfully, I can ride as fast as they can run, and getting off doesn't help the training, so I prefer to stay up top. Never had one yet I couldn't get back in hand with enough room to work it out. I also worry about liability. As a pro, if I bail and that loose horse gets into the road and kills someone, I could be in even bigger trouble than just normal Care, Custody and Control liability.

More important is to develop some solid skills in the horse before ending up in a situation where it could get out of hand. I am a big fan of the one rein stop, and you can stop ANY horse if you can get their head around. I tell my students to "put his nose on your toe!" If you can break up the lateral tension and get the head moving either direction, you can circle to a stop with enough room to work. And I have rarely lost both breaks and steering for more than a few seconds...you can usually get back one or the other if you don't panic. I only need one.

I have gotten hurt a lot because I have been dealing with young, green, high octane sport horses, traveling at high speeds over big fences, or trying to fix someone elses problem child....usually caused by previous ignorant handling and riding. It only takes 30 seconds to teach a horse really bad behavior, and it can take a lifetime to fix it.

You are so right about how many people get into trouble...not only do people not take the time to learn basic horse behavior and communication, so that they can predict much of the time what is about to happen, they also don't take the time to learn how to react when things do go wrong, and then they get themselves overmounted, followed by blaming the horse when it goes wrong, when it is usually just horses being horses.

In the amateur world, about 80% of issues are caused by the rider/handler not knowing enough or being skilled enough to make good choices, or to avoid or mitigate a volatile situation, 15% is just horses being horses (sometimes they are hard to ride when doing horse like things!), and 5% or less is a horse actually being malicious. The 80% is usually people who need a Big Wheel but bought a Corvette, or they could have ridden a Corvette, but bought an F14!

With proper instruction and the right horse, people can ride for years without getting hurt, if they don't get in over their heads!
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Which makes me now feel sorry for horses in westerns, which invariably at some point are directed to go down a MUCH too steep hill, one that they can't so much "walk" down as do small "falls" down---fallSTOP, fallSTOP, fallSTOP.

They surely must be terrified to be made to do that, if they can't tell depth....?
I dunno... while reading this thread and the memories it brought back, I was remembering that first little "horse"... a paint mustang who was only beautiful to me! She had the slight Roman nose, too long in the back and too short of hip, but strong and quick and wonderfully trainable, once we got through the first couple of months when I (an unsupervised 12 year old alone at dusk at a boarding stable!) finally won the battle of who was boss mare!

And... to your question... she and I used to "play" galloping up and down the 70 foot walls of an old gravel pit... and they were *steep*! She loved it!

Fun days...

Summerthyme
 

jward

passin' thru
I'm surprised @rafter hasn't chimed in; iirc she busted up her pelvis in a horse riding incident.

My father broke horses, so as a wee one I always owned the safest and most gentle-n despite a few hairy situations in my misspent youth, I nor anyone I knew, ever ended up hurt; I had no idea injuries were so common. :eek:
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Per various local news sources:

1. These horses are trained not to spook even at artillery fire. However, any horse can spook. Any of us who have been around horses know that.

2. What spooked them was the exercise was next to a construction site, which suddenly dropped a large load of something heavy from several stories up. I'm not sure if it was on a crane or what, but it was right by the horses, and four of them went into a total panic, threw their riders, and took off through downtown London.

3. They were wearing special shoes. A photo of one of the shoes thrown during their run was shown.

4. The two horses in the picture were severely injured and are being cared for by veterinarians. Their names have been shared with the public, and their situation is iffy. Thankfully, while humans were injured, there haven't been any reports of severe injuries, though people did go to the hospital.

To sum up, this happened while the troops were training the horses (and themselves) to deal with the urban environment, military parade situations, and crowd control. It shows why such training is needed, but also why, when animals are involved, no training method will ever be perfect. That goes for human animals as well as war horses.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member

Runaway horses in ‘serious condition’ after bolting through central London​

Geneva Abdul
Thu 25 Apr 2024 11.03 BST

Two of the military horses that broke loose during a morning exercise and bolted through central London on Wednesday are in “serious condition” and have been operated on, according to officials.

The runaway horses, including one white horse drenched in blood, ran through the rush-hour streets of the capital, colliding with vehicles and resulting in four people being taken to hospital.

“There were five horses. They have all been recovered. Three of them are fine, two of them are unfortunately in a relatively serious condition and obviously we will be monitoring that condition,” the defence minister James Cartlidge told Sky News.

Four of the seven horses, Vida, Trojan, Quaker and Tennyson, broke loose after being “spooked”, the British army said in a statement on X.

Two horses were operated on last night with one transferred to an equine hospital, it said, and the three soldiers involved were expected to recover fully and return to duty.

“Our horses receive the highest standards of care, and those that did not undergo surgery are expected to return to duty in due course,” the statement said.

A group of seven horses and six soldiers from the Household Cavalry based at Hyde Park barracks were on an extended exercise in Belgravia on Wednesday at about 8.40am when chaos erupted.

Astonished witnesses described “total mayhem” as five of the horses broke loose. Four service personnel were thrown from their horses and it is understood three soldiers were assessed in hospital for their injuries, which were not thought to be serious.

Pictures and videos shared on social media showed two horses running through central London. One collided with a parked taxi outside the Clermont hotel in Buckingham Palace Road, smashing the windows of the Mercedes people carrier. Another horse crashed into a parked doubledecker tour bus, smashing the windscreen.

Cartlidge described the incident as an “exceptional situation”, adding that more than 150 animals were on exercise in the capital each day.

“Obviously, we didn’t want that situation to happen. What I would stress to you is that this is very exceptional,” he said.

“Unfortunately we have seen what has happened, but all I can say is the crucial thing, as you said yourself, no serious injuries to the public as far as we aware, and of course we will be keeping an eye on the situation.”
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
I stumbled upon this while looking for news of the injured horses this morning. Thought it was interesting.



What Breed Are The Household Cavalry Horses?: A Royal Equestrian Affair​

By Graham Skinner
September 1, 2023
Updated December 12, 2023

Picture this: You’ve joined the throngs in London to witness first-hand the iconic Trooping of the Colour ceremony.

Surrounded by devoted subjects of the Sovereign, you eagerly await the commencement of the royal procession, filled with anticipation, during the King’s Birthday Parade.

As the Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment takes centre stage at Horse Guards Parade you’re transported to a bygone era, steeped in a tradition of regal elegance and military excellence. But you can’t help but wonder: What breed of horse are you staring at?

In this article, we unveil the majestic breeds that grace these special events of the British Monarch, exploring the unique characteristics and rich history behind The Household Cavalry Regiment.

Join us as we gallop through the royal equestrian world, filled with pomp and ceremony (and beautiful horses!) and you can believe us when we say: this article is “straight from the horse’s mouth!”

What Is The Household Cavalry?​

The History​

The Household Cavalry is a union of esteemed Life Guards and Blues and Royals regiments of the British Army. It represents the epitome of military tradition and honour. Just as the powerful steeds used to carry these soldiers onto the battlefield, they also bear the weight of history and pageantry during ceremonial events.

For better understanding, the Blues and Royals regiment of the British Army was formed by joining together the Royal Horse Guards and the Royal Dragoons (Red Dragoons).

Both regiments have a long history steeped in virtue and tradition. The Red Dragoons, also known as the 1st Dragoons, were originally formed as a cavalry regiment with expertise in mounted tactics and adaptability on the battlefield. The Red Dragoons are one of the founding components of the current regiment we see today.

The Life Guards, established in the 1600s, were formed as the royal bodyguard unit that served as the loyal protectors of King Charles II during his exile. They played a key role in his return to England for the restoration in 1660. The Life Guards, also known as the Household Cavalry, hold a prestigious position as being one of the oldest regiments in the British Army.

With their distinctive red tunics and white plumes, the Life Guards personify tradition and honour. They stand as a beacon for their enduring legacy in the United Kingdom that showcases the grandeur of the British monarchy.

Essentially, The Household Cavalry coalition is the combination of the two most senior regiments in the British Army, both with a long and distinguished history (as mentioned before). It’s divided into two parts: The Household Cavalry Regiment and The Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment.

Note: The Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment is responsible for ceremonial occasions and public displays. The Household Cavalry Regiment is the operational unit, specialising in armoured resistance and serving as an active combat force. “Royals Trooper” is the name given to skilled soldiers who form part of the Life Guards and Blues and Royals regiments.

So, whether it’s the daily King’s Life Guard or Royal Horse Guards at prestigious events like Trooping Of The Colour and the State Opening Of Parliament; these two most senior regiments are trained in both horsemanship and parade preparations. They proudly serve as ambassadors of the Crown, the royal family, and the entire nation.

What Makes A Household Cavalry Horse?​

A Household Cavalry horse is not your average horse. It’s a carefully selected and trained equine ally that embodies the strength, grace, and discipline needed to perform these types of duties. Think of it this way – just as professional athletes are chosen to represent their country – such is the same for these noble steeds!

These horses are chosen for their physical attributes. However, apart from their physical appearances, these horses need to have an even temperament and trainability to perform such a monumental (and privileged) task.

They undergo rigorous training drills with experienced grooms and handlers. These pros ensure their physical performance is up to speed, and their nutrition and veterinarian needs are met – resulting in well-rounded, healthy and happy horses.

Another aspect of these four-legged heroes is their incredible bond with their riders. This relationship is based on a strong foundation of trust, understanding and mutual respect (and a spot of love!) This allows the bond to strengthen and makes communication and training cues a lot easier.

To be chosen as a Household Cavalry horse, these horses have to (quite literally!) ‘jump through hoops’ to fulfil such a prestigious role. The combination of these traits is imperative; having a good mix of strength, power and agility is a must, with a well-to-do, trainable attitude (for both horse and rider!).

Types Of Household Cavalry Horses​

Now for the part you’ve been waiting for: Which breed of horses are used in the Household Cavalry?

Irish Draught​

Irish Draught horse

Irish Draughts are cherished for their remarkable strength, incredible power and calm nature. They’re excellently suited for pomp and ceremony.

With a slightly smaller average height of 15.2 – 16.3 hands (when compared to others in the rank), their imposing presence and composed temperament bring a regal flare to mounted displays. Valued for their natural trainability and intense desire to please, Irish Draughts are a favoured Cavalry breed.

Irish Draughts’ solid build, trustworthiness, and reliable nature embody the essence of what it means to be chosen as a Household Cavalry horse. Holding to the steadfast commitment of the Household Cavalry and maintaining the grandeur of the British Monarch!

Irish Draught crossbreeds​

Irish Draught crossbreeds are the horses which result from crossing traditional Irish Draughts with other breeds, such as Thoroughbreds or various warmbloods. The aim is to combine the athletic ability of the warmblood with the strength and power of the Draught.

Cleveland Bay​

Cleveland Bay horse

Clevelands are valued for their strength, endurance, and stamina. It makes them ideal for ceremonial duties and carriage driving within the Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment. Standing at an average height of 16 – 17 hands, this horse’s regal appearance and impressive stature bring a flare of prestigious glamour to royal events.

The Cleveland Bay breed is the epitome of British tradition, symbolising the heritage of The Crown, which the Household Cavalry upholds.

Friesians​

Friesian Horse

Friesians are known for their striking black coats and elegant appearance, standing at an average height of 15 – 17 hands. Although less commonly used than Irish Draughts, this breed is a true prince in every aspect!

With their calm and even temperament, alluring beauty, and the ability to not spook easily, Friesians make an excellent Household Cavalry Horse.

Household Cavalry Blacks​

Not to be confused with Friesians, Cavalry Blacks also boast striking black coats. While Friesians are a distinct horse breed (with black coats), Household Cavalry Blacks refer to any black horse which meets the required height and conformation standards set by the Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment.

It’s a term used to describe horses that are chosen for ceremonial occasions and parades, such as Changing Of The Guard. These “dark horses” certainly enhance the splendour of such events, adding an air of prestige fit for a king!

Warmbloods​

Danish Warmblood

Some Warmblood breeds such as Dutch Warmbloods, Hanoverian, and Oldenburg may also be used by the Household Cavalry. These breeds bring a touch of versatility and grace to the ceremonial stage and do not disappoint in their performances.

Warmbloods are perfectly matched to the Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment as they possess the qualities of strength, agility, and refined stature.

Roles Of Household Calvary Horses: What Do They Do?​

When the Household Cavalry takes centre stage during state and royal occasions, they put on a breathtaking performance. These riders and horses symbolise the deep bond between military might and the equestrian world.

The Horse Guards are highly skilled and impeccably trained soldiers who illustrate the tradition and heritage of this long-standing career. Their presence adds a sense of grandeur to such occasions.

(Remember, as mentioned earlier, the Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment is the regiment which is responsible for ceremonies and public displays.)

Here we look at a few events;

Trooping of the Colour​


Trooping Of The Colour is an iconic event where only one regiment’s flag – known as the “Colour” – is paraded at a time.

The five regiments of Foot Guards including the Grenadier, Coldstream, Scots, Irish, and Welsh Guards take turns each year to perform this impressive display. It’s a grand tribute which is held on the Sovereign’s Official Birthday.

The Five Foot Guards Regiments, also known as the Household Division, are elite infantry regiments of the British Army. They’re identified by their iconic red tunics and bearskin caps. They have a long-standing tradition of being the Sovereign’s escort and personal bodyguards.

At the Trooping Of The Colour ceremony, the horses of the Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment play an essential role.

Not only do we gaze at their beautiful appearance, but we’re also captivated by their skilful formations during parades and processions.

These horses have been groomed to the highest standard. Their impeccable movements and disciplined routines, as they line the edges of St James’ Park in London, are truly a sight to behold. They embody a sense of tradition, heritage and national pride whilst participating in this iconic event.

Changing of the Guard​

The horses of the Household Cavalry play significant roles during the Changing of the Guard ceremony – as do they for all state and royal occasions.

Mounted soldiers, known as the King’s Life Guard, provide a solemn and ceremonial presence as they stand guard at prominent locations in London, such as Horse Guards Parade and Buckingham Palace. The Mounted Regiment is responsible for protecting these landmarks.

The horses, with their noble stature and disciplined demeanour, add an impressive and authoritative element to the event. Their calm temperament enhances the overall splendour, symbolising the continuity and steadfastness of the British royal family.

Monarch Coronation​

The horses play a significant role during the coronation ceremonies of monarchs, as we recently saw at the Coronation of King Charles III earlier this year. They contribute to the grandeur and symbolism of the occasion, escorting the newly crowned Sovereign in breathtaking processions and enhancing the deep-rooted royal traditions.

Royal weddings​

The Cavalry Horses are often involved in royal weddings, adding a touch of majestic brilliance to the grand event. They participate in ceremonial processions and serve as the bride and groom’s escorts – embodying and upholding the noble traditions that have taken place for generations.

State Opening of Parliament​

The horses play an important role in the State Opening of Parliament. They serve as ceremonial escorts, accompanying the King and other members of the royal family as they make their way to the Houses Of Parliament.

The prestigious presence of the Horse Guards enhances the grandeur and significance of the event, emphasising the monarch’s constitutional role in opening the new parliamentary session. Their disciplined procession adds a touch of tradition to this important occasion and symbolises the close connection between the monarchy and the governing body of the UK.

State visits and diplomatic events​

Any royal or political event in the United Kingdom provides an opportunity for the horses of the Household Cavalry to display their extraordinary presence. During state visits and diplomatic events, the Household Cavalry horses play a vital role in welcoming and escorting foreign heads of state.

They partake in ceremonial rides and processions, adding a touch of wonder which showcases the nation’s rich traditions and hospitality. The magnificent sight of the mounted squadron and their noble steeds creates a memorable impression, strengthening the strong ties between nations.

The Annual Regimental Training Camp​

The Annual Regimental Training Camp, coordinated by The Household Cavalry Training Wing, (a specialised division within the Household Cavalry), refers to a dedicated training period.

This is where regiments of the Household Cavalry come together for intensive training and exercises, typically held during the summer months – think of it as a sort of “Cavalry summer camp.”

It’s an important event in the regiment’s calendar, allowing soldiers and horses to enhance their skills, coordination, and teamwork. The camp plays a vital role in shaping and moulding the future members of the Calvary and is essential to maintain and upkeep Household Cavalry standards.

The specific location for this camp can vary from year to year. Military training grounds or bases are used, which can accommodate the vigorous training objectives.

FAQs​

Where are the Household Cavalry Horses kept?​

The Household Cavalry horses are stabled at the Hyde Park Barracks at Horse Guards in the heart of London which is not to be confused with The Household Cavalry Museum (as it shares the same location).

The Hyde Park Barracks is where soldiers and horses are stationed and where training for ceremonial duties is undertaken. The central location of the barracks allows for easy access to various ceremony locations within the city of London.

What is the difference between Life Guards and Royal Horse Guards?​

These are two distinct regiments within the Household Cavalry of the British Army and they share a long and distinguished history regarding ceremonial events.

Life Guards are the most senior regiment of the British Army and were originally bodyguards of King Charles II back in the 1600s. The Royal Horse Guards, on the other hand, originated in the 17th century and were formed by combining two regiments, the Blues and Royals, in 1969. “The Blues” refer to The Royal Horse Guards and “The Royals” refers to The Royal Dragoons.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Horse skills, it's one of those things you almost need to start developing as a small child to really be proficient at, IMO.

Not unlike being totally adept at handling a boat.

Sure, you can learn it later in life, but those who have done it all their life feel the subtle nuances and details in a way that others probably never will.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Horse skills, it's one of those things you almost need to start developing as a small child to really be proficient at, IMO.

Not unlike being totally adept at handling a boat.

Sure, you can learn it later in life, but those who have done it all their life feel the subtle nuances and details in a way that others probably never will.
I do believe we are born to it. And it often skips generations. Both of my grandmas were natural-born horsewomen, but definitely NOT my parents. :lol:
 

rafter

Since 1999
I'm surprised @rafter hasn't chimed in; iirc she busted up her pelvis in a horse riding incident.

My father broke horses, so as a wee one I always owned the safest and most gentle-n despite a few hairy situations in my misspent youth, I nor anyone I knew, ever ended up hurt; I had no idea injuries were so common. :eek:
Broke many many bones. I still ride and show horses, in fact bought my 'go big or go home' show horse last fall and just showed him in the first show a week ago.

Horses are a flight animal. Even when then they are supposedly 'bombproof', it doesn't mean that something can spook them, even the ones that have done extensive police training.

What did surprise me on this was the fact that they ran 5 miles afterwards. That is an extraordinary long distance since usually a horse will forget about what scared them and stop long before traveling that sort of distance. Of course, maybe once started, they just decided that it was sort of fun just being out for a run....that can happen if they never get turned out and are always in a stall with controlled exercise and a lot of 'hot' feed.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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That smile in the first photo, I wouldn't trust that horse as far as I could throw it. That horse makes the Joker's smile look sincere.

She's a hoot.

Way more personality than the others.

Very sweet disposition with people, but she runs the herd.

The black one is about to drop a foal in a coupla months.

Been working on building a running shed so she has an enclosed stall, will put up stock panels for a temporary corral until the little hay-burner can go out on pasture.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
I stumbled upon this while looking for news of the injured horses this morning. Thought it was interesting.



What Breed Are The Household Cavalry Horses?: A Royal Equestrian Affair​

By Graham Skinner
September 1, 2023
Updated December 12, 2023
How beautiful they are!

I've always loved horses.

Always wanted to have some---to ride, to love, to care for--just to admire the beauty and grandeur of them.

Watching a horse in full gallop makes me feel like crying--they are so beautiful--so magnificent.

And so full of personality....not like a stubborn mule (like our neighbor's that my Daddy and all the neighbors borrowed in the Spring to plow our gardens, or the stupid (for the most part, except for the Angus and Holsteins) calves we raised. (sweet, mostly--but stupid).

My half-sister (raised in a different home, with privileges I didn't have) had several horses and rode dressage in shows.

My cousin (in my adopted family) came from a family that owned/raised/showed horses---I was SO jealous of her. My parents were afraid of letting me get too close to a horse--wouldn't even let me get close enough to pet them as a child. Wouldn't let me have one, no matter how much I begged (just like they didn't want me to learn to swim--probably for the same reason. I understand their desire to protect me, but....still.....). We had enough land to support one--barely--but as child I didn't understand why, when both of them were raised on farms where horses were part of the natural course of farm life, we couldn't have one now on our little "farm."

When I was grown, I went with our singles group several times to riding stables for an afternoon ride--that was one of the regular activities our singles' group participated in. On one of these rides, something happened that -- well, I guess it either means I did, after all, inherit some of the "horse genes" my half-sister and cousin have--or that God (as the saying goes) watches over fools and children!

I think it was at Sunburst Stables. Our Singles class from our church went together, and we got there late in the afternoon, so the poor horses had already been at it giving rides all day. The attendants ask what your experience level is with horses, and though I'd ridden before I said, "none", and they put me with a poor tired old fella--sweating and slightly hanging his head. When I mounted him he let out a long horse-sigh---that sound you make with your lips when you hold them together and blow. I'd heard that sound enough from mules my Daddy used to plow with in our garden to know that meant the poor thing was already tired out and was thinking, "Oh, no! NOT again!" I remember thinking, “He’s too tired to do another circuit—they ought to take this one to the barn and get me another horse,” but I didn’t say anything to the attendants.


When we took off with our guide, my horse started off in the middle but kept falling further and further behind until he was at the back of the line, and I noticed he kept "running into trees"--brushing so closely against them that it almost scraped my legs. I was thinking it was just because he was so tired, and patted his neck and spoke soothingly to him. (I was too ignorant of the ways of horses to realize what he was really trying to do--and that he had figured out I either didn't have the knowledge or the will, or both, to MAKE him behave. Now if he'd have been a calf I'd have known what to do! But.....). I kept calling to those ahead of me that my horse wouldn't catch up, but either the guide didn't hear me or just didn't do anything about it.


However, about half-way through the ride, my horse suddenly began picking up speed.....and gradually began passing horse after horse until we came to the edge of the wooded trail, where there was just a long green pasture between us and the barn, about a quarter of a mile away. The guide had stopped all of us to tell us something, and I was listening to him and not watching my horse--just sitting in the saddle, holding the reins. Now...again, if I'd thought back to the days of my Daddy borrowing our neighbor's mule to plow with, I'd have remembered why Daddy allowed me to ride the mule coming FROM the neighbor's barn to our house before he did the plowing, but never would allow it when we RETURNED the mule to barn AFTER plowing. I would have remembered Daddy always saying, "No--she might run away with you." And indeed, it sometimes took BOTH of us holding her by the long rope-leads (the plowing reins) to hold her back from flying to the barn across the fields. But--I didn't think. So as I sat there listening to the guide, suddenly without warning, the "poor tired horse" exploded into action--and took off! Across the green field he ran, first in a trot, quickly accelerating to the very rough 'canter', and then to a full gallop!


I tried to pull back on the reins, but each time I did so the horse raised his head, and I did know what THAT meant--that if I kept pulling, he'd just rear up and throw me. I was holding on pretty good, because I did know to sit up straight and centered and hold on with my knees. The canter was awful--but once he hit full gallop--oh NEVER have I experienced anything so wonderful! No sound but the steady rhythm of his flying feet and the wind in my ears, and as smooth as cream as we flew across the field--it was heavenly! Then, as we neared the barn, he began slowing--back into that awful violently-shaking canter, then down to a trot, and as the barn came up FAST I remembered to duck down to the horse's neck just in time to avoid being brained by the top of the barn door as he trotted inside. The attendants grabbed his harness and were all angry--with ME--for "making him gallop"! I told them I didn't 'make' him do anything--HE ran away with ME--and reminded them I had put down that I had NO riding experience and they shouldn't have put me with a horse likely to run off with me! They didn't seem to believe me, however--I guess they figured if that were true I would have fallen off him when he took off.


I would LOVE to experience a horse galloping with me again--but as I said I don't know if I ever will, this side of heaven!

I look forward to riding then as part of the "armies of Heaven, mounted on white horses" that return with Jesus to earth!
 
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