Expect more Dem vote fraud in Pennsylvania this year

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Pa. is vote nightmare waiting to happen


By Debra Erdley
The Pittsburg Tribune-Review
Monday, August 2, 2004

The longest battle in a close contest in this presidential battleground state could be the one that begins after the polls close: the battle to count the ballots.

Unlike the Florida election fiasco of November 2000 that played out in the national press with a few hundred votes and a presidency at stake, Pennsylvania's effort to count votes has been an obscure process.

It plays out in 67 different county seats, places where election contests -- conducted on everything from paper ballots to the most sophisticated electronic systems -- can drag on for weeks and where idiosyncrasy is the rule of the day.

"Anything is possible in a very close election here," said Dan Hayward, executive director of the Pennsylvania Republican State Committee.

"Almost every county is almost like a fiefdom when it comes to elections, be it their machines or anything else," he said.

That became apparent last fall when a pair of candidates in a low-profile state judicial contest became the closest contenders ever in a statewide race. After see-sawing for two months after election day, the Superior Court contest ended with 38 votes -- out of more than 2.2 million ballots cast -- separating the candidates.

No one wants to see a replay of that waiting game under the national spotlight of a presidential election.

"My only wish on election day is for everyone to win or lose by big margins," said attorney Lawrence Tabas, who represented the GOP in the Superior Court election squeaker.

Hayward said Republicans and Democrats alike came away from that election with a healthy respect for all the glitches that can occur in an election and a resolve to monitor elections closely this fall; the process will be complicated by the potential for a large number of military absentee ballots, new provisions involving first-time voters and the addition of provisional ballots given to novice voters who lack valid identification.

During the two months the state court race was in play last fall, party officials learned what Philadelphia attorney Gregory Harvey -- who has been litigating election cases for 40 years -- has known for decades: There's nothing fast or easy about counting the vote in a state with more than a half-dozen different methods of balloting.

Counties have 20 days to certify their vote totals to the state. Some took even longer last fall. Before the count was final, attorneys for the candidates and the party organizations had filed complaints in county, state and federal courts.

In many states there are provisions for automatic recounts when margins fall as low as 0.5 or 1 percentage point. In Pennsylvania, where there are no provisions for a statewide recount, it's up to the candidates to petition one precinct at a time -- a costly and time-consuming prospect in a state with more than 9,000 precincts -- or find an issue the courts will act upon.

Harvey, who represented Democratic party interests, is still litigating one of those complaints in federal court. He filed suit on behalf of a group of handicapped voters when Democrats discovered elderly or disabled voters who were eligible for alternative ballots were given absentee ballots instead. Such individuals are eligible for alternative ballots in precincts that lack handicapped-accessible polling places.

Absentee ballots must arrive at the election bureau by 5 p.m. the Friday before the election, but alternative ballots must be counted as long as they arrive before 8 p.m. on election day.

Harvey said votes that should have been counted as alternatives were discarded along with late absentee ballots. He conceded that if he prevails, the number of votes that would be added to the mix would be small. On the other hand, the last presidential election hinged upon fewer than 1,000 votes in Florida.

Pennsylvania Department of State spokeswoman Allison Hrestak said the alleged irregularities probably heightened awareness about the law. But she was surprised it was an issue. "We have always mentioned alternative ballots in our training," she said.

Tabas said third-party delivery of absentee ballots, another issue in last year's contest, remains a potential problem even though the court ruled in an Allegheny County case that able-bodied voters must mail or hand-deliver their absentee ballots.

"People were still delivering third-party absentee ballots in spring, even though the Supreme Court said it's illegal," Tabas said.

Tabas and Harvey said new regulations establishing identification guidelines and adding provisional ballots also could be the source of problems.

The new regulations are the first phase of the 2002 federal election reform law. They require first-time voters to provide a photo identification at the polls. They also provide for provisional ballots, paper ballots that are distributed to first-time voters who lack valid identification and voters who are not carried on local voter rolls, but insist they are registered.

Hrestak said only 43 percent of the 1,682 provisional ballots issued last spring ultimately were deemed valid and counted.

At least officials had a chance to try out the new regulations in a light primary. Fewer than 2 million of the state's 7.6 million registered voters cast a ballot last spring. In the 2000 presidential election, Pennsylvanians cast about 4.7 million ballots.

Mark Wolosik, director of the Allegheny County Elections Division, predicted there will be more requests for provisional ballots this fall when seldom-seen voters emerge for the presidential election. "The people who vote in the primaries are the super voters who vote in every election. They usually know where they're registered," he said.
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Debra Erdley can be reached at derdley@tribweb.com or 412-320-7996.
 

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"I've not seen a lot of evidence that voter fraud and corruption are up."

"I've not seen a lot of evidence that voter fraud and corruption are up." Says PA Poli Sci Prof. G. Terry Madonna


Friday, August 6, 2004
Census: `Motor voter law' inflates numbers
By Debra Erdley
TRIBUNE-REVIEW

The dead and the displaced may not vote, but experts say the 2000 Census supports fears that their names have drastically inflated Pennsylvania's voter registration rolls.

In some populous counties, the voter registration may soon exceed the voting-age population.

"It borders on a statewide disgrace," G. Terry Madonna, a political science professor at Millersville University of Pennsylvania, said of registration rolls that show 90 percent or more of the Census 2000 voting-age population is registered to vote in Pennsylvania's most populous counties.

Michael Young, a political science professor at Penn State University's Harrisburg campus, echoed Madonna.

"Philadelphia (where 90 percent of the voting-age population is registered) is probably the most extreme example. You can't purge people anymore. ... It's created a huge mess for voting records. They're virtually useless," said Young.


With an estimated 93 percent of the voting-age population holding citizenship, numbers like those in Allegheny County (91 percent), Philadelphia and Chester counties (92 percent), would mean that every eligible citizen is registered to vote, Young said.

Madonna and Young both insisted the registration numbers reflect not an engaged electorate, but rather an unintended consequence of Pennsylvania's 1995 motor voter law.

In an effort to encourage voting, the law allowed people to register to vote when they applied for public assistance, a driver's license or unemployment benefits. The law made it very difficult for officials to remove inactive names, short of costly mass mailing efforts.

The law also swelled voter registration from 5.7 million in 1990 to 7.8 million in 2000.

In Fayette County, a 1997 scandal over absentee ballots raised questions about registration numbers. A grand jury investigation that followed concluded with a report speculating that at least 10 percent of the registered voters were either dead or resided elsewhere.

However, when Fayette officials conducted an investigation last year at the grand jury's recommendation, they found only 190 names that could be purged from the rolls - 10 who had died and 180 who had moved out of state. Another 1,300 names were placed in an inactive file after letters came back with notations that forwarding addresses had expired.

Laurie Nicholson, director of Fayette County's Election Bureau, said those names can be purged if the individuals fail to vote in two consecutive federal elections.

She said statistics that show 72 percent of Fayette's voting-age population as registered voters are as accurate a representation as possible under the motor voter law.

Registration figures are 11 percent higher in nearby Westmoreland County where 83 percent of the voting-age population is registered. Traveling north to Indiana County, however, the registration number dips to 67 percent of the voting-age population.

Debra Phillips, executive director of the Voting Integrity Project, an Arlington, Va., organization that vetted Fayette County's registration rolls, worries that there is more at stake here than accuracy.

"It's a very big issue for us. Conservatively, we believe anywhere from 5 to 25 percent of the registration in any county is what you call deadwood or outright fraudulent registration."

"California has found 25 percent (ineligible registrations) three years ago and it's not improved at all. ... In Georgia, the Atlanta Journal Constitution found 15,000 dead people on Georgia's rolls. ... In Indiana, they found one in five registrations was bogus," she said, reeling off numbers she memorized as reports came out.

Estimates of how much the motor voter law has falsely inflated registration vary almost as much as registration varies from county to county.

A comparison of census numbers and registration figures from November 2000 showed registration ranged from 56 percent in tiny Union County to 92 percent in Chester County.

Madonna said there's little to suggest that Pennsylvania politicos have taken advantage of the situation here.

"I've not seen a lot of evidence that voter fraud and corruption are up. ... The turkey's on the table, but they don't seem to have gobbled it up. But because the feast is on the table, it is a very enticing turkey," he said.

Doug Hill, executive director of the Pennsylvania State Association of County Commissioners, said his members have been raising questions about the system for several years.

Their biggest complaints are that there is no simple, inexpensive way to remove the names of those who have died or moved, and that there are delays in getting new registrations from state offices such as PennDOT to the county election bureaus.

In Allegheny County, where registration stood at 91 percent of the voting-age population last year, officials are struggling for a cost-effective way to pare names from the registration rolls.

Hill said officials knew registration numbers would be high. He added that it came as no surprise that they are highest in the state's largest counties, where resident mobility also is high.

"We're not surprised. We know (the numbers) are inflated. We know there are duplicate registrations.

"If you can't take a name off the rolls by something other than an affirmative mailing, sooner or later your list is going to exceed the population," said Hill.

That's why Hill and his members were relieved when disputes over the Florida presidential vote raised the issue of revamping election codes in the state Legislature.

"We have the same issue Florida has: we don't have standards for close counts and questionable ballots. Now, we're moving on that front.

"It also gave us an entry point to deal with the big issue in Pennsylvania, which is the registration lists," said Hill.

"There's not a county in Pennsylvania where some candidate hasn't received a call complaining that `my husband died six years ago. Would you please take him off your mailing lists?'"

Hill hopes a statewide election code overhaul and the establishment of a centralized statewide registry - both under consideration in Harrisburg - will eliminate much of the problem.
 

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Wonder if all these Russian Muslims coming (over 5,000) in from Russia/Georgia, who will be guaranteed life-pensions also, will be PRE-REGISTERED to Vote Republican??

US Gives Citizenship To 7000
Russian Muslims
8-7-4


The United States is going to welcome 7,000 Muslims from Russia to Pennsylvania, giving them free housing and life-long pensions: US Offers Citizenship To 7000 Ahiska Muslims.

KRASNODAR, Russia, July 24, (IslamOnline.net) - The United States has agreed to grant citizenship to 7,000 Ahiska Muslims who will be settled in Pennsylvania, reported a Russian newspaper on Friday, July 23.

The first 11-strong batch of the Ahiska Muslims, living in the Russian province of Krasnodar, left for Geneva on Thursday, July 22, before flying to Philadelphia, reported Novie Izvestia. It added that the Muslims would be housed near the grand mosque in Philadelphia. ...


"The immigrants will be provided with housing and furniture, they will be helped to learn the English language and to complete formalities needed for residence in the US, which is especially important, and have been promised life-long welfare allowances for pensioners and the disabled."

http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=11900
_US_Gives_Citizenship_to_7000_Russian_Muslims


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And, then again, maybe we are being set up with a Russian Mafiya (as they spell it) with Muslims here in the US in Pennsylvania (where most of our ultimate patriotic symbols are housed). JMNSHO.
 

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This thread is about vote fraud. Your completely unrelated article mixed with completely baseless speculation only shows that you have nothing meaningful to say on the subject.
 
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