EXCLUSIVE: Did Next Commander-in-Chief Falsify Selective Service Registration?

fruit loop

Inactive
Maybe he wasn't adopted but just used his stepfather's name. A lot of kids do that.

As for passports - I believe that kids were actually able to travel on a parent's passport for a long time.
 

Wardogs

Deceased
FruitLoop.... Barack was raised by his mother and stepfather, but I'm not aware that his stepfather adopted him. If he did, then his original birth cert would have indeed been sealed. Barack himself cannot look at it unless he gets a court order.

Oh.....and adoption of a minor child by American parents grants the child citizenship, by the way. Although Obama would have been an American citizen regardless of his place of birth since his mother was American. Just as John McCain is American despite his birth in Panama.

Why do I get the the feeling you just make stuff up as needed?

In his book, "Dreams of my Father" Obama referenced having a copy of his birth certificate, so he had it at one time by his own admission. Whether he was adopted or not is still another fact that is unknown...why?

McCain's parents were BOTH American, so it's a different set of circumstances altogether. Plus, he was born on a US Military base in the Canal Zone, different than a sovereign nation and with no questions of dual citizenship.

Oh, puh-leeze.

You can't get student loans, or even attend college, unless you've registered. In some states you have to register when you apply for your driver's license.

Well, since he was supposedly attending college at Occidental before he registered I guess this isn't true either...

Back in June, Pajamas Media tried to find out the truth. They didn't go the FOIA route though, they just wrote and asked about it.
A few weeks later Bob Owens (AKA Confederate Yankee) claimed to have debunked the rumor and boastfully put the issue to rest:
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-did-obama-actually-register-for-selective-service/2/

"... It is a rumor that the Obama campaign has chosen to ignore despite numerous requests, and it is a rumor that even Snopes couldn’t seem to confirm or deny definitively.

After contacting the Selective Service System for an answer several times since late June, Pajamas Media obtained official confirmation from the Selective Service System via email that Barack Obama did indeed register for the Selective Service as required by law, and is eligible to run for the presidency.

Mr. Owens,

Barack Hussein Obama registered at a post office in Hawaii. The effective registration date was September 4, 1980.

His registration number is 61-1125539-1.

Daniel Amon
Public Affairs Specialist

It is difficult to determine why no one had confirmed Obama’s Selective Service registration until now. The mainstream media may have had no interest in pursuing the story for a multitude of valid reasons. New media sources aligned with the Obama campaign may have had no interest in conducting an investigation that may serve to impede their selected candidate, and new media opponents may have simply found confirmation of his registration too difficult to obtain — some have suggested that they had contacted the Selective Service, only to be told they would have to file a request under the Freedom of Information Act, which rather notoriously may take months to complete. Perhaps others found it more useful to keep the rumor alive than put it to rest. But the conclusive answer is now known..."


Sorry Bob, but this debunks absolutely nothing and actually raises a fairly simple question...

Apparently Bob wasn’t curious enough to ask it;
How could Obama register in Hawaii on Sept 4, 1980 when he was at Occidental College in California? Classes started that year on August 24th.

I read PM regularly and generally appreciate Bob’s take but this was a lazy effort at best. To accept the word of a bottom level Public Affairs Specialist with no supporting documentation is at best naive but to call this an “investigation” is amateurish and declaring it “conclusive” is delusional.

The actual Selective Service registration document does in fact require a FOIA filing and Debbie Schlussel went through the process and she now has it.

She has made a fairly good breakdown of the discrepancies and there are many, many of them. In Obama's favor though is that the SSN's are the same on both the letter to Bob Owens and the FOIA documents...

I checked the SSA form 1 from '66 when I went in and it's a 10 digit number for the DLN. The only other I could find is from '84 and it's still a 10 digit number.

The 11 digit DLN on the Obama screenshot is an obvious attempt to disguise the date of issue. It's also a 10 digit number on the official form...

Who did it and why, innocent mistake or attempt at fraud...who knows?

Just one more chapter in the mystery of who the real Obama is.
 

fruit loop

Inactive
Wardogs....Barack's birth cert was on display in his campaign headquarters. I believe it's not "forged" and that he is a legal citizen. I also believe he's registered with SS, although I wouldn't blame him for not doing it. I don't think anyone should have to. (I find it interesting that several people on this thread have, in the past, registered objections to the draft, but are now having a cow because they think Barack didn't. Why? Fits another agenda)

One parent has American citizenship, that's sufficient. Or no parents if the kid is born in America.

i am answering some of the questions above. Oh - as an adoptee (unfortunately) I DO know adoption law.
 

Wardogs

Deceased
If the adoption took place in Indonesia, then it's probable that the original birth cert in Hawaii was not effected. It could still be the original unless adoption papers were forwarded to the court for them to have on file. Then the court would have had to notify the records division to seal the original BC and reissue an updated one with the adoptive fathers name, and the childs adopted name. That might have never happened. It's questionable if the US would have any record at all of a foreign adoption.

IF he was traveling on an Indonesian passport (and claiming Indonesian citizenship?) when he was in college (his college records haven't been released either have they?), then he would not be required to register for American draft. But... he would not qualify to be POTUS either.

.... what a tangled web we weave.

Actually, he would have to register even if he was a foreign national or a dual citizen...

The following is summarized from the Selective Service System website: www.sss.gov/

WHO MUST REGISTER: Almost all male United States (U.S.) citizens, and male noncitizens living in the U.S., who are 18 to 25 years old, are required to register with Selective Service. Those men who must register include noncitizens who are legal permanent residents, illegal immigrants, and refugees; dual nationals of the U.S. and another country, regardless of where they live; disabled men who can leave their homes and move about independently; and members of the National Guard and Reserves who are not on full-time active duty. Failure to register or otherwise comply with the Military Selective Service Act is, upon conviction, punishable by a fine of up to $250,000, imprisonment for up to five years, or both. In addition, federal and certain state laws require registration as a prerequisite for obtaining student financial aid, job training, government employment, and U.S. naturalization.

wardogs

He could have cleared it all up at the start if he would have simply released copies of his records like all other candidates down thru history have done. His refusal to provide any documentation makes everyone wonder what he's hiding. It's the fuel that fans the flames.

It seems like the more we find out, the more questions arrise.
 

michaelteever

Deceased
fruit loop,

Your continued and I must admit, somewhat delusion, defense of any and all information concerning your chosen one is almost laughable if it wasn't so sad.

You have a constant attitude of: move along here folks, there's nothing to see....

Open your eyes, and your mind, and recognize the number of questions has far exceeded any satisfactory answers regarding the truth.

Good Luck, by the way, in attempting to subvert the incriminating information that keeps coming to the forefront....

Michael
 

fruit loop

Inactive
Open your eyes, and your mind

I agree with this. Please start thinking for yourselves instead of letting churches, WorldNetDaily, and IMMEDIATELY FORWARD TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS emails do it.
 

Wardogs

Deceased
Wardogs....Barack's birth cert was on display in his campaign headquarters. I believe it's not "forged" and that he is a legal citizen. I also believe he's registered with SS, although I wouldn't blame him for not doing it. I don't think anyone should have to. (I find it interesting that several people on this thread have, in the past, registered objections to the draft, but are now having a cow because they think Barack didn't. Why? Fits another agenda)

One parent has American citizenship, that's sufficient. Or no parents if the kid is born in America.

i am answering some of the questions above. Oh - as an adoptee (unfortunately) I DO know adoption law.

Wrong, his BC has never been on display. His COLB was supposedly made available to factcheck.org, but the resulting inspection raised more questions than it answered.
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13075.htm

Three different COLB's have been put forward as being real, Daily Kos, fightthesmears.com and the factcheck document. They are all slightly different from each other, most notably in the borders.

Single parent US citizenship did NOT give Barack automatic citizenship unless he was actually born in Hawaii, which is in dispute.
According to the laws in place at the time, if he was indeed born in Kenya, he is not a citizen.

That being said, I'm with you on that, I believe he was born in Hawaii but I also think that there is something about his BC that he wants to keep hidden.

It's the only thing that explains the secrecy.

This is about his SSN however and once again, for whatever reason, (and it may be completely innocent), There is a problem.
Very curious...
wardogs
 
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SassyinAZ

Inactive
Wardogs....Barack's birth cert was on display in his campaign headquarters. I believe it's not "forged" and that he is a legal citizen. I also believe he's registered with SS, although I wouldn't blame him for not doing it. I don't think anyone should have to. (I find it interesting that several people on this thread have, in the past, registered objections to the draft, but are now having a cow because they think Barack didn't. Why? Fits another agenda)

One parent has American citizenship, that's sufficient. Or no parents if the kid is born in America.

i am answering some of the questions above. Oh - as an adoptee (unfortunately) I DO know adoption law.

Perhaps it's the national civilian corps, FL, kinda hypocritical to require service yet not have registered for it.

He also supports the draft, voted for it.

Interesting it is how you want to believe him, you defend him, yet you disagree with his so-far that we are allowed to know about (leaks then scrubbing) policies and the others you disagree with but dismiss the concerns as not happening.

He could make your dreams of him so much easier to defend if he'd just be forthcoming (shut the rest of us up too).
 

michaelteever

Deceased
Obviously,

I do think for myself, unfortunately 52% (as reported, erroneous or 'made up') haven't.

We have a 'president elect' which the vast majority of our country has absolutely no idea of what 'change' actually means in 'his mind'!!!

Never in our history have we known less about someone who is going to govern this country, than we do now with Obama.

Inquiring minds want to know....the obfusication to prevent this from happening has been incredible, to a degree of I would deem illegal, time will tell.

By then it may be way too late for anything to be done about it.

God help us then.

Michael
 

MaureenO

Another Infidel
Wardogs....Barack's birth cert was on display in his campaign headquarters. I believe it's not "forged" and that he is a legal citizen. I also believe he's registered with SS, although I wouldn't blame him for not doing it. I don't think anyone should have to. (I find it interesting that several people on this thread have, in the past, registered objections to the draft, but are now having a cow because they think Barack didn't. Why? Fits another agenda)

One parent has American citizenship, that's sufficient. Or no parents if the kid is born in America.

i am answering some of the questions above. Oh - as an adoptee (unfortunately) I DO know adoption law.

Adoption laws vary state-to-state and country-to-country. There's no way you, personally, can know all of them.

BTW, I was also adopted. Massachusetts laws and Ireland laws are quite different which left me with several dates of birth. Even though my parents of birth are Irish nationals, my parents of the heart are American-born.

Maureen :dstrs:
 

Brickhouse

Senior Member
You can't get student loans, or even attend college, unless you've registered. In some states you have to register when you apply for your driver's license.

Wrong -- my son registered for college and got a student loan and has not registered yet. Of course, he was 17!
 

fruit loop

Inactive
I know adoption laws for England and Scotland, but that's all the international stuff I do.

I do know U.S. adoption law. Anyone who doesn't can look on a number of adoption-related sites.
 

Infoscout

The Dude Abides
I did not vote for Obama, I still think he will be a train wreck for our country, but I wish this stuff would go away. He won, he has some work to do, lets let him work.

I still believe he will bring about some serious problems, but this banter on birth is pointless.
 

lisa

Veteran Member
I didn't vote for the man..but this is all a bunch of grasping at straws...
even if anything could be proven..too many political people want him in office so nothing will come of all this.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
I didn't vote for the man..but this is all a bunch of grasping at straws...
even if anything could be proven..too many political people want him in office so nothing will come of all this.

damnit, I had to provide my birth certificate in order to get a marriage license.

let ANYONE who approaches the White House also provide all the proof required before he gets access to the nuclear weapons button.
 

mt4design

Has No Life - Lives on TB
signatures don't look right :shr:
obamaselectiveserviceregist.jpg

182px-Barack_Obama_signature.svg.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Barack_Obama_signature.svg

HOLY CARP G-Man.

THAT IS CLEAR EVIDENCE of FORGERY.

Here are additional examples...PLEASE NOTE THE MASSIVE DIFFERENCES.

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audacity_of_hope_sig.jpg


500
 

mt4design

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Handwriting sample. I noticed the differences in his "S" and that on the form immediately.

barackobama_handwriting.jpg


APTOPIX_MIDEAST_ISRAEL_PALESTINIANS_OBAMA.sff_AKCF128_20080723083756.jpg


Mike
 

Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
Let me see if I understand this.

  1. Barack Obama supposedly registered with Selective Service in September, 1980, at a post office in Hawaii, at a time when he was actually in California attending classes at Occidental College.
  2. His 1980 Selective Service registration appears on a form that was not even approved for use until 1990. A "United States Post Office" stamp is affixed to the form, although the use of such stamps was discontinued in 1971, when what was then known as the United States Post Office became known as the United States Postal Service.
  3. The date purportedly entered by Obama on the form, July 30, 1980, does not even match the date on the bogus certifying Post Office stamp, July 29, 1980. The postal clerk also indicated on the form that Obama produced no identification, which would indicate the clerk may have had no means of knowing whether the applicant was indeed Barack Hussein Mohammed Obama or not.
  4. The Document Locator Number on this form, which should start with "80" if it was filed in 1980, instead starts with "08," indicating that it was filed this year.
  5. The signature of the purported applicant on the SSS-1, Barack H. Obama, differs significantly from the known, verified signature of the individual claiming to be the President-Elect, Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Hussein Mohammed Obama.

So...we're supposed to overlook all these discrepancies, as if they weren't even there?

Looks like Barack is BUSTED!
 
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Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
His sig is even sloppier than a lot of Drs! I don't like his handwriting.

All this weird cover-up is peculiar, shadow mystery man with so much to hide. You have to wonder about somebody who has no compunction against piles of forgeries.

I still pray God inspires him to be a good President.
 

NC Susan

Deceased
Obviously,

I do think for myself, unfortunately 52% (as reported, erroneous or 'made up') haven't.We have a 'president elect' which the vast majority of our country has absolutely no idea of what 'change' actually means in 'his mind'!!!Never in our history have we known less about someone who is going to govern this country, than we do now with Obama.Inquiring minds want to know....the obfusication to prevent this from happening has been incredible, to a degree of I would deem illegal, time will tell.By then it may be way too late for anything to be done about it.God help us then. Michael

I just lifted this: http://israelinsider.ning.com/forum/topics/something-is-happening-of
Something is happening of historic proportions


(and it's not pretty)






I am a student of history. Professionally. I have written 15 books in six languages, and have studied it all my life. I think there is something monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is just a banking crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a sharper focus.

Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it. Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about ten - fifteen years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two.

We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?

We learn just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has “loaned” two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the 700B we all argued about so strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of “we the people,” who loaned our powers to our elected leaders. Apparently not.

We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy. Why?

We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity. Why?

We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election (now violently in California over a proposition that is so controversial that it wants marriage to remain between one man and one woman. Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?). We have corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected judges to write laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?

Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is medicare and our entire government, our education system is worse than a joke (I teach college and know precisely what I am talking about)–the list is staggering in its length, breadth, and depth. It is potentially 1929 x ten. And we are at war with an enemy we cannot name for fear of offending people of the same religion, who cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.

And now we have elected a man no one knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla, Alaska. All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin’s pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe is more imporant.)

Mr. Obama’s winning platform can be boiled down to one word: change.

Why?

I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now.

This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again.

And that is only the beginning.

And I thought I would never be able to experience what the ordinary, moral German felt in the mid-1930s. In those times, the savior was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing. What they did know was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory and promises. Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his “brown shirts” would bully them into submission. And then, he was duly elected to office, a full-throttled economic crisis at hand [the Great Depression]. Slowly but surely he seized the controls of government power, department by department, person by person, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The kids joined a Youth Movement in his name, where they were taught what to think. How did he get the people on his side? He did it promising jobs to the jobless, money to the moneyless, and goodies for the military-industrial complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe, and across the world.

He did it with a compliant media–did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and . . . change. And the people surely got what they voted for.

(Look it up if you think I am exaggerating.)

Read your history books. Many people objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and made fun of. When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though.

Don’t forget that Germany was the most educated, cultured country in Europe. It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And in less than six years–a shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidency–it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors. All with the best of intentions, of course. The road to Hell is paved with them.

As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring what is transpiring around me.

Some people scoff at me, others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. Perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believe–and why I believe it.

I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am.

Best regards

tps
 

NC Susan

Deceased
damnit, I had to provide my birth certificate in order to get a marriage license. Let ANYONE who approaches the White House also provide all the proof required before he gets access to the nuclear weapons button.

I had to provide birth certificates for son and grandson so they could play T-ball, and little league baseball. Rules in this region have not changed in 50 years. You want to play sports you have to follow ALL the rules. Parents included.
No child enter school without a BC, and nobody can get a drivers license without a BC

so, If I or you or anyone who wants to become the next President, we can do so. We just have to talk to Dan Rather and his falsification documents buddies
 

fruit loop

Inactive
That is not true, NCSusan. North Carolina, as well as most states, has a list of documents that they will accept in lieu of a birth certificate.

I do not have a birth certificate, but managed to get into school (baptismal, health, adoption papers, and family Bible records), get a driver's license, get registered to vote, and even get a passport (and after 9-11 at that) without a birth cert.

If someone tells you that you "must" have a birth cert and ONLY a birth cert, tell them to check the laws in their state. Don't budge until they do, because they are wrong and will quickly find that out.
 

mt4design

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Let me see if I understand this.

  1. Barack Obama supposedly registered with Selective Service in September, 1980, at a post office in Hawaii, at a time when he was actually in California attending classes at Occidental College.
  2. His 1980 Selective Service registration appears on a form that was not even approved for use until 1990. A "United States Post Office" stamp is affixed to the form, although the use of such stamps was discontinued in 1971, when what was then known as the United States Post Office became known as the United States Postal Service.
  3. The date purportedly entered by Obama on the form, July 30, 1980, does not even match the date on the bogus certifying Post Office stamp, July 29, 1980. The postal clerk also indicated on the form that Obama produced no identification, which would indicate the clerk may have had no means of knowing whether the applicant was indeed Barack Hussein Mohammed Obama or not.
  4. The Document Locator Number on this form, which should start with "80" if it was filed in 1980, instead starts with "08," indicating that it was filed this year.
  5. The signature of the purported applicant on the SSS-1, Barack H. Obama, differs significantly from the known, verified signature of the individual claiming to be the President-Elect, Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Hussein Mohammed Obama.

So...we're supposed to overlook all these discrepancies, as if they weren't even there?

Looks like Barack is BUSTED!

Oilpatch, great list.

Fruit Loop, let's drop the birth certificate issue since it has nothing to do with my original post and I'd like your opinion on issues like those raised by Oilpatch and others specifically related to the Selective Service documents and inconsistencies contained within them.

Mike
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
It just occured to me, I wonder if Obama went to Hawaii not just to visit his dying grandmother, but also to collect documents, letters or photos from her home that might have been incriminating? He knew she was not going back home.
 

LoupGarou

Ancient Fuzzball
You can't get student loans, or even attend college, unless you've registered. In some states you have to register when you apply for your driver's license.

I was taking college courses when I was 12 through the time I was 17, LONG before I ever even thought about the selective service, or even driving a car.

Loup
 

RJC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
That is not true, NCSusan. North Carolina, as well as most states, has a list of documents that they will accept in lieu of a birth certificate.

I do not have a birth certificate, but managed to get into school (baptismal, health, adoption papers, and family Bible records), get a driver's license, get registered to vote, and even get a passport (and after 9-11 at that) without a birth cert.

If someone tells you that you "must" have a birth cert and ONLY a birth cert, tell them to check the laws in their state. Don't budge until they do, because they are wrong and will quickly find that out.
Therein lies the secret.

When my underage wife to be and I pursued a marriage license, we forged a Baptismal Certificate as evidence of her age. We actually met privately and presented our ID’s to a judge and requested a license. He said he did not belief her to be as old as stated on the certificate but granted the license nonetheless.

Many rules can be avoided in which the law has requirements. However, they are not legal and cannot stand the test of challenge lest a judge or an authoritative body grants a variance.

Obama may well have accomplished all things without ever using the birth certificate.

Nevertheless if he is installed as president without being a natural-born citizen by law he will twice be illegitimate.

His standing to be properly elected is as simple as some authority so declaring such. Do we know of any such authority?
 

ItsJustMe

Quiet Lurker
* Barack Obama's Signature is Dated After Postal Stamp Certifying His Signature

Barack H. Obama signed the SSS Form 1's "Today's date" as July 30, 1980, labeled "D". But the Postal Stamp reflects the PREVIOUS day's date of July 29, 1980, labeled "E". Yes, Obama could have mistakenly written the wrong date, but it is rare and much more unlikely for someone to put a future date than a past date. (Also note how Barry made such a "cute" peace sign with the "b" inside the "O" of his signature. Touching.)

The larger point here is that Obama supposedly registered for Selective Service BEFORE it was even required, which is HIGHLY unlikely. The gov't didn't reinitiate mandatory SS registration until like '82 or '83.

According to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service_System

"Then on July 2, 1980, President Jimmy Carter signed Proclamation 4771, Registration Under the Military Selective Service Act, retroactively re-establishing the Selective Service registration requirement for all 18-26 year old male citizens born on or after January 1, 1960. Only men born between March 29, 1957, and December 31, 1959, were completely exempt from Selective Service registration.[1] The first registrations after Proclamation 4771 took place on Monday, July 21, 1980, for those men born in January, February and March 1960 at U.S. Post Offices. Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays were reserved for men born in the later quarters of the year, and registration for men born in 1961 began the following week[2]."

Using the logic that males born in 1961 had to register the week of July 28th, and Monday July 28th was for those born is January, February & March 1961 only, Obama had to register on Wednesday July 30th as that day was for July, August and September 1961 births only.

It is possible that the post office clerk failed to change the date on his stamp from the previous date.
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
But the Postal Stamp used in 1980....

should have been for the USPS not the USPO.

From Debbie Schlussel's site:

The change from Post Office to Postal Service occurred on August 12, 1970, when President Nixon signed into law the most comprehensive postal legislation since the founding of the Republic--Public Law 91-375. The new Postal Service officially began operations on July 1, 1971.

Why was an old, obsolete postmark round dater stamp used almost ten (10) years after the fact to validate a legal document . . . that just happened to be Barack Obama's suspicious Selective Service registration form?
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
FL, remember that in Hawaii, there are two different birth certificates which are used.
ONE certifies that the person is REGISTERED as having been born while the other is an actual certificatin of birth location, time, parents etc.

ONE i a "Certification of Live Birth" and one is a "Certificate of Live BIrth"....

I'd have to look up which was used in which case but ONE is issued when the parent wshes to register the birth if it happened other than in a hospital etc....(and CAN be used for out of state births).
 
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