INTL EU Refugee/Migration Crises - News Only Thread for September 2015

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The wave of refugees that runs over Europe
September 6, 2015/41 Comments/in General /by Selco

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There is huge crisis here in my region because immigrant pouring in here from Syria, Afghanistan, Libya… and newspapers and forums are full of headlines and topics about how politicians should approach the problem.

Common folks just like with all other real life changing events usually miss the point, and whole discussion is pointed on the views should „people help immigrants or see them as a potential threat“.

Real problem is actually much deeper, and again just like with all real problems (that can really cause S. To hit the fan) great majority of folks are caught up in empty discussions. Most of the time even only with people they agree with.

Yes or no to immigrants

There is nothing more primal than a hungry man, actually more primal is hungry man with child.

He does not care about laws, rules, EU directives, amenities in foreign country or anything similar.

He has simple tasks, to feed his kid, and himself, to have safety. Does he obey the rules? No, in most cases he will not. Who would just go into forest to die because it is not appropriate to cause problems for your neighbor.

Now consider the fact that immigrants are coming in numbers like 70,000, or 120,000 to countries where total population is around couple of million people.

Countries here in my region have already had problems for years to bring security to their own citizen, jobs, food, safety etc.

Whole society infrastructure is damaged for decades, and we do not need much to fall apart.

Now to get some things right here, I spend some time too being hungry and looking for the shelter, and everything inside me is telling me that from any point of view normal man need to help man who is hungry, who is running from war, who is trying to protect their kids.

It is about right and wrong, and about being normal human being.

But the real problem is not the wish to help or not, it is about being overrun by the huge number of people who are different and might not fit into the society.

The problem is in fact that there is no control who is a real refugee and who just seeks opportunity to live off social benefits somewhere else.

No society can cope with those numbers, no matter how strong and organized it is.’

It is a system problem that can not be fixed easily. Should we try to help those folks, who are hungry, scared, with bunch of the kids etc.

Sure.

We can not do anything else, it is right thing to do, to feed the hungry, heal the sick.

Will they, or some of them change our world, bring chaos maybe? I think that they will, some refugees might just use this chaos to get to the places where they can cause harm.

Something big is unfolding here I think, and we still need to see how it will exactly end up.

Great societies were made from people who ran from their original countries to new countries, and mixed there into new societies, actually made whole new societies and nations, bringing their differences to create something new and united.

But possible problem here is having lot of people who are not really willing to "mix“ into new societies. Some people from some places have such different culture and mindset they see freedom and liberty as invitation to change world around them to whatever they enjoyed where they came from. If somebody wants to change my world, it is a problem.

Outside help for crisis?

Big words are spoken from EU leaders, all saying immigrants should be helped and taken care of, while at the same time lots of people care more for dead whales being washed onto some shores than dead immigrants.

It is all again same game of big politics and money, and common folks do not have chance to choose anything.

Richer EU countries will send big money and help to poorer countries where immigrants are coming from, in order to „help“. Most of this is made in effort to keep same immigrants away from their rich countries.

And of course that help and money will be used once more in poor countries, simply that local politicians and ex and future warlords can fortify their own positions, to gain more power, so that those countries stay combination of chaos and bribery.

Once again simple man is caught in big game of power that most of the folks do not even understand.
What can we learn from immigrants?

A lot.
They go over the long distance with almost anything, some of them have experienced violence, were beaten, robbed, imprisoned, and even tortured.
They do not have anything except their own lives, and will to survive.

No fence can hold them, and no police can outsmart them. They eat what they find, they sleep where they can.
There are college professors among them, fire fighters, or simple housewives, but they are surviving.

Often you will not find desperation, but determination, will and hope in these people, and many have a cause.
They left whatever they had in their countries, in order to find another place that is better for them, houses and apartments are not important anymore if you are fighting for life.
And if you are traveling very far with just one bag or backpack you definitely have some survival skills.

Conclusion, no conclusion

To sum this up, I think talking about refugee problem is like talking about weather problem. It is happening and people need to deal with it. No big wall will stop this and Africa is close to Europe too with millions of people who have not enough to live normal lives.

I understand people feeling bad about new people in their countries who might live on their costs, but all that is happening is something that was waiting to happen. I hope countries have good process to weed out worst people but we all know this will not stop all of them. Europe is changing and nothing can stop this.

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A Steady Flow Staggers Into Europe, Outpacing Pledges of Shelter

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ROSZKE, Hungary — Fraying tensions snapped along Hungary’s southern border on Monday as thousands more migrants staggered into the country from Serbia while European leaders scrambled to figure out what to do with them and how to stanch the flow.

In a trash-strewn camp a few hundred yards north of the border, more than 1,000 people waited for promised buses to take them to a nearby relocation center — the next stop, they hoped, on their long journey to Western Europe from Syria, Afghanistan and other nations.

About 200 angry people broke free, made their way to the country’s main north-south highway and began walking toward Budapest, forcing the authorities to close the artery.

Some had been waiting in Roszke for over two days, with temperatures falling into the 40s overnight. Still more arrived, in bedraggled clusters of 10 or 20, along the railroad tracks that sliced a gap in the razor-wire fence Hungary is building along the 108-mile border with Serbia.

“At night, it is so cold,” said Mahmoud Alatrash, 29. “I think we will never leave. I think we will die here.”
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With pressure building on European countries to accept more of the migrants — and many countries, notably Hungary, resisting that pressure — President François Hollande of France announced on Monday that his country would take in 24,000 asylum seekers over two years.

In Britain, Prime Minister David Cameron said his country would accept 20,000 refugees from Syria. In Germany, which has been accepting by far the largest number of arrivals, Chancellor Angela Merkel vowed to set aside $6.7 billion to deal with the crisis.

The numbers those European nations have agreed to accept are much smaller than the numbers of those who have entered the Continent, and who continue to arrive. And many countries, especially in Eastern Europe, are balking at accepting more than a token number.

Mr. Hollande said a plan was expected to be presented on Wednesday by the European Commission, the union’s executive arm, that would redistribute 120,000 people across the 28-nation bloc over the next two years.

“It is the duty of France, where the right to asylum is entirely part of its soul, of its flesh,” Mr. Hollande said.

The European Union, he said, needed to create “hot spot” reception centers at those borders under the greatest onslaught — in Greece, Italy and Hungary — to register new arrivals and turn back those who do not meet the requirements for asylum.

Mr. Cameron said Monday that Britain would accept up to 20,000 Syrian refugees, but they would most likely be limited to those who apply for asylum from camps in Jordan, Lebanon and Turkey. The British government is wary of giving migrants any incentive to make the dangerous journey into Europe, officials said, and do not wish to favor more well-to-do refugees who can afford the trip.

Challenged by Harriet Harman, acting leader of the opposition Labour Party, to say how many would be admitted this year, officials declined to give a specific target.

Several other British lawmakers criticized the announcement, with some calling for the number to be increased. “The offer of 20,000 refugees over five years amounts to just 12 refugees a day, which falls pitifully short of what is needed and of what people in this country deserve and expect,” said Caroline Lucas, a lawmaker for the Green Party.

In Germany, Ms. Merkel said that “what we are experiencing now is something that will occupy and change our country in coming years.”

“We want that the change is positive, and we believe we can accomplish that,” she added.

Hungary, which has taken a much harder line than most European nations, continued to reject demands that all countries accept quotas.

Prime Minister Viktor Orban has repeatedly said that Hungary has the right to protect its Christian traditions by refusing to accept large numbers of Muslims, and that many of the arrivals making their way to Germany and other prosperous nations do not deserve asylum.

“We have to face the reality that these people do not simply want refugee status,” he told a gathering of diplomats on Monday. “They are really after the German way of life.”

Yet strains were beginning to show in the Hungarian government. On Monday, Csaba Hende, Hungary’s defense minister, submitted his resignation after a national security meeting, and Mr. Orban accepted it, the state news agency reported.

Mr. Hende had been responsible, along with the minister of the interior, for construction of the border fence. Mr. Orban had asked that it be completed by the end of August, but only a first stage, a line of razor wire along the ground, had been completed by then, with the bulk of the 13-foot barrier still being built. Those arriving Monday in Roszke could listen, as they walked along the rail tracks through the gap in the fence, to the clang of a pile driver sinking metal poles into the loamy ground just a few hundred yards away.

This year alone, more than 150,000 migrants have requested asylum in Hungary. The latest figures from the government show that the largest number, 53,467, came from Syria, with 41,094 from Afghanistan, 24,554 from Kosovo and the rest from Iraq, Pakistan, Eritrea and other troubled nations.

The opening of a new relocation camp in Roszke on Sunday — not far from the muddy field where the latest arrivals were being held — is only the first step in a coming crackdown on illegal migration, Mr. Orban promised.

A series of revisions to Hungary’s refugee laws, set to take effect Sept. 15, will give the authorities greater powers to contain the flow and punish those who contribute to it.

One package of revisions, passed by the Hungarian Parliament on Friday, allows for the building of closed camps along the border to rule quickly on whether new arrivals qualify for refugee status — a plan that seemed similar to Mr. Hollande’s call for “hot spot” centers.


More revisions, expected to be passed this week, would give the police much greater authority, including the right to enter private homes if they suspect migrants are hiding there, and would authorize the Hungarian military to help protect the border.

“It is Hungary’s primary interest to protect its border,” Mr. Orban said Monday. “For this, we need a physical point, a physical line, a construction, which can be guarded by the army, the police and any other official sent to the border.”
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Hungary was not the only scene of tension on Monday. In Spain, a day after the police clashed with migrants at a detention center in the eastern city of Valencia, the regional government called on the authorities to investigate the episode, including reports that the police had fired rubber bullets to regain control.

In Denmark, the police stopped a Copenhagen-bound train carrying about 100 migrants. Passengers with valid passports and visas were shifted to another train while the migrants were held.

The move was in reaction to an influx of migrants that came from Hungary over the weekend, a police official said. The first few dozen agreed to board buses to reception centers where they were to be fed and given beds and access to showers while they went through registration.

“During registration, you will be interviewed and you will be asked your desires — if you want to seek asylum or not,” an officer told them.

The group — which was on its way to Norway and Sweden — included Syrians, Afghans, Iraqis and Iranians who had made their way over the weekend from Budapest’s Keleti train station.

“I don’t want to stay here,” said Nasser Taha, 21, from Tripoli, Libya. “I have no language, no work, no people.”

At the camp near Roszke, migrants waited Monday for bus rides to the nearby processing center where they would be registered and then sent north. Angry groups, weary of the delays, marched on the line of police officers blocking their exit, chanting “Freedom! Freedom!” They were repeatedly pushed back.

Taha Shaben, 28, who said he fled Syria when his family’s textile factory was bombed, scowled at those trying to muscle their way through.

“I am Syrian, you know,” he said. “A real Syrian. Here, we have Pakistanis, Afghans, Iraqis, and they all throw away their papers and claim to be Syrian.”

Being from Syria is the surest path to refugee status. “Oh yes,” he said. “Everyone is a Syrian now. It is a big problem.”

Five hundred yards down the railroad tracks, at the gap in the fence, a few dozen new arrivals rested before continuing on to the distant line of police officers and television crews.

“We are lost; we have no cellphones,” said Pierre Alshoufi, 18, who said he was a Christian from Hama, Syria. “They fell into the Greek sea. Please, what is up ahead? Can anyone tell us what will become of us?”

Rick Lyman reported from Roszke, Hungary; Steven Erlanger from London; and Aurelien Breeden from Paris. Reporting was contributed by Dan Bilefsky from London; Melissa Eddy from Berlin; Anemona Hartocollis from Rodekro, Denmark; Palko Karasz from Budapest; Helene Bienvenu from Roszke; and Raphael Minder from Madrid.

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Oreally

Right from the start
really, all this tells me is that the total collapse of the global civilization is very near. obviously, noting is gong to stop this migration except the cessation of the boat and trains and trucks from the afflicted areas. organized long distance transportion.

i feel sorry for the people of europe who are going to be saddled with the moslem problem for another few centuries more . .
 

Be Well

may all be well
really, all this tells me is that the total collapse of the global civilization is very near. obviously, noting is gong to stop this migration except the cessation of the boat and trains and trucks from the afflicted areas. organized long distance transportion.

i feel sorry for the people of europe who are going to be saddled with the moslem problem for another few centuries more . .

It will have to be solved much sooner than centuries. Did you listen to Nigel Farage's speech that I posted yesterday? He was on FIRE and got huge cheers. Sooner or later the actual citizens' desires are going to influence those in gov, or those in gov will be very, very sorry.
 

Be Well

may all be well
http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...-war-zone-by-migrants-supposedly-fleeing-war/

There is another video at Breitbart that cannot be embedded.

VIDEO: GREEK ISLAND TURNS INTO WAR ZONE AS SYRIAN AND AFGHAN MIGRANTS CLASH

DONNA RACHEL EDMUNDS 8 Sep 2015

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The Greek island of Lesbos has been turned into a war zone by rioting migrants, leaving the island’s 85,000 residents in despair. Around 25,000 migrants are currently camped out on the island with hundreds more arriving daily, leading to frequent violent clashes and rioting despite their claim to be fleeing violence.

Located just 6 miles from the Turkish shore, the migrants come over in inflatable boats which they cut up on arrival to prevent being turned back, expecting to be able to quickly travel on by ferry to mainland Europe, German station RTL has reported.

Instead, they are being held on the Island while the police issue emigration documents, a delay which can take days. The wait is causing tension between groups as Afghans accuse Syrians of getting preferential treatment by the authorities, leading to vicious violent clashes.

As rocks, bottles and municipal bins fly, one tearful local woman told RTL “We are in danger, every day, every minute. We need someone to protect us. They come into our houses. I want to go to work, but I can’t. Our children want to go to school, but they can’t. They have stolen our lives!”

Another yells at the migrants flinging rocks as they pass his house: “Go away from here! This is private land! Respect Greece!”


The full video is here:

http://www.rtl.de/video/index/showvid/id/393249

The main town of Lesbos, Mytilene, now resembles a war zone as the migrants rip apart the infrastructure and use the town as a urinal. Mayor Galinos helpless in the face of such an onslaught is out of ideas, and is calling on the European Union to do something.

“This is a ticking time bomb that will go off soon,” he said. “We have managed to avert some catastrophes, but we need help, more ferries. This island is so small, we can’t solve a worldwide humanitarian crisis by ourselves. The European Union needs to act.”

Monday night saw fresh clashes as 2,500 surged towards a government chartered ferry bound for Athens. Just a dozen police and coastguards, armed with batons, struggled to control the crowd by shouting “keep back”.

Junior interior minister Yiannis Mouzalas told local radio “the situation is on the verge of explosion.” It is a scene being replicated on islands all along Greece’s coastline.

Evangelos Meimarakis, leader of Greece’s right wing New Democracy party which could retake power this month, said the country should strengthen its borders to as to dispel “the message that ‘it’s good over here, come over'”.
 

Faroe

Un-spun
I haven't carefully read all of this thread. (there is a lot to read today!)...my apologies if someone else has mentioned it.

Africa. Huge continent. Could actualy use some development, and some smart ambitious people.

Why not settle everyone somewhere there?
 

Be Well

may all be well
I haven't carefully read all of this thread. (there is a lot to read today!)...my apologies if someone else has mentioned it.

Africa. Huge continent. Could actualy use some development, and some smart ambitious people.

Why not settle everyone somewhere there?

Doesn't have welfare.
 

Lilbitsnana

On TB every waking moment
I haven't carefully read all of this thread. (there is a lot to read today!)...my apologies if someone else has mentioned it.

Africa. Huge continent. Could actualy use some development, and some smart ambitious people.

Why not settle everyone somewhere there?


There are conflicts and terrorist in some of the countries not marked. Morrocco for one, has lots of terrorist in it.

ETA: also, note the bottom map...can't exactly "instantly" change much of Africa to muslim, since it already is mostly muslim.


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Locations of ongoing conflicts worldwide, June 2015

Brown = Major wars, 10,000+ deaths in current or past year
Red = Wars, 1,000–9,999 deaths in current or past year
Orange = Minor conflicts, 100-999 deaths in current or past year
Yellow = Skirmishes and clashes, fewer than 100 deaths in current or past year
 

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Be Well

may all be well
I was being flippant, Lilbitsnana is serious.

But without the welfare and special bennies, a lot fewer of the migrants/refugess would be going to Europe.
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
really, all this tells me is that the total collapse of the global civilization is very near. obviously, noting is gong to stop this migration except the cessation of the boat and trains and trucks from the afflicted areas. organized long distance transportion.

i feel sorry for the people of europe who are going to be saddled with the moslem problem for another few centuries more . .

If this continues, in a few decades it won't be the Muslim problem, it will be the Kafir (Infidel) problem. As in, Europe will be part of the Caliphate.

But remember, Europe needs all those new workers. Cause they've been telling their own not to breed too much. The Environment and all, ya know.

It's all so logical, isn't it?
 

Lilbitsnana

On TB every waking moment
If this continues, in a few decades it won't be the Muslim problem, it will be the Kafir (Infidel) problem. As in, Europe will be part of the Caliphate.

But remember, Europe needs all those new workers. Cause they've been telling their own not to breed too much. The Environment and all, ya know.

It's all so logical, isn't it?

"insidious" is a good word.
 

Lilbitsnana

On TB every waking moment
Now Australia

Agence France-Presse ‏@AFP 10m10 minutes ago

#BREAKING Australia to take 12,000 extra refugees from Syria, Iraq: PM Tony Abbott
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Refugee crisis: How Europe's alarming lack of unity over the issue could bring about the break up of the EU

As thousands clamour to be admitted to safety, Germany and Sweden offer welcome, some Eastern European nations will let in only 'Christians,' and Britain tries, as usual, to make and play by its own rules
John Lichfield Author Biography

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Wednesday 09 September 2015

A three-year-old refugee child drowns while trying to reach the safety of a muddled and largely unwelcoming EU. Syrian refugee families are herded on and off trains in Budapest. Other refugees have their arms marked with identity numbers by Czech police. Razor-wire fences are built in Hungary – and in Calais.

Germany (stiff, unyielding Germany) says: “Never mind the rules. Let them all come in.” So does Sweden. Some East European countries say: “Only Christian refugees are welcome; and not too many of those please.” Italy and Greece, swamped by refugees, demand more help from their partners. France and Austria vacillate. Spain says that it has problems enough.

Britain tries, as usual, to make and play by its own rules.

North vs south; east vs west; Britain vs the rest; German leadership or German dominance. The refugee crisis is like a diabolical stress test devised to expose simultaneously all the moral and political fault lines of the European Union.

The EU was born out of calamity. Over the last six decades, its policies have often been forged by resolving conflicts between member states.


And yet this crisis seems more profound, more acute, more tangled, more poisonous, than any that has gone before. It is not about currencies or net contributions or farm subsidies but about the core issues of common humanity and solidarity that the EU claims to epitomise.

The refugee crisis coincides with, and threatens to complicate, other existential challenges: Greek debt and the survival of the eurozone; EU reform and Britain’s in/out referendum next year.

“The world is watching us,” the German Chancellor Angela Merkel said last week. “If Europe fails on the refugee question, its close bond with universal human rights will be destroyed, and it will no longer be the Europe we dreamed of.” Open continental borders, one of the greatest of EU achievements, may be destroyed, Chancellor Merkel warned, unless the crisis is rapidly resolved.

It is absurd to blame the EU for being “divided”. All the countries in Europe, and many political parties and many families, are split on how we should respond to the greatest refugee crisis on our continent for 70 years. There are no easy answers. The problem will grow even larger in the months and maybe years ahead. How could the EU not also be divided? Some of the divisions reflect genuine and honourable divergences in analysis and strategy, in geography or economic strength. Other statements hint at darker forces of extreme nationalism and racial intolerance.

Disagreement is one thing. Irreconcilable differences are another.

Chancellor Merkel, the technocratic wicked fairy of the Grexit saga, has become the humanitarian good fairy of the refugee calamity. And yet her moral leadership is seen by some other EU governments – and not just in the east – as quixotic and foolhardy. Her open-hearted position on refugees is just as Germanocentric, they say, as her unyielding approach to Greece.


The crisis will also have a direct impact on the negotiations on EU reform before the British referendum. David Cameron’s amended position – Britain will take 20,000 Syrian refugees from Middle Eastern camps over five years but not those already in the EU – has infuriated some other European governments.


Mr Cameron’s stance fails to address the fact that over 300,000 refugees are already in Europe – and that more are arriving every day. Britain’s go-it-alone attitude will be challenged at what looks certain to be a tempestuous meeting of EU foreign ministers in Brussels next Monday and a summit next month. There will also be enormous pressure on the Eastern European countries which are refusing to take all but Christian refugees.

The Prime Minister bowed to pressure at the end of last week, announcing Britain will accept 'thousands more' refugees The Prime Minister bowed to pressure at the end of last week, announcing Britain will accept 'thousands more' refugees (Getty)
The European Union was made, and often shaped, in crisis. Has a crisis arrived which might finally break it apart?

EU governments have a legal framework to deal with asylum-seekers: the Dublin Convention signed in 1990, which took effect in 1997. In broad terms, any refugee who arrives on EU soil must apply for asylum in the country where he or she first sets foot. The intention was to stop refugees from “asylum shopping” from one EU country to the next.

The system has never worked properly. Over the past two years it has buckled under the flood of African and Middle Eastern refugees across the Mediterranean to Italy and Greece and, more recently, the mass migration of Syrian and Balkan refugees into Hungary and Bulgaria.

The southern and eastern EU countries complained that the Dublin rules saddled them with almost the entire burden of cross-Mediterranean migration. The northern countries expressed sympathy but did little.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ng-about-the-break-up-of-the-eu-10492151.html
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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“At night, it is so cold,” said Mahmoud Alatrash, 29. “I think we will never leave. I think we will die here.”

They think it's cold now, wait a few months.

It's September. I wonder how many of these people have a clue how cold it gets in Northern Europe over the winter? That ought to at least cut down on the numbers walking from Denmark to Sweden!

This giant fustercluck is WHY we have national borders and laws to ensure orderly immigration. Sure, some of these may well be "desperate families", but many- MANY- aren't. If a country isn't allowed to keep everyone out (or locked into a camp- and we see how well THAT is going) until they can investigate each individual and then decide whether or not they will be a CONTRIBUTOR to their society... whether allowing them in won't in the end create more problems than benefits... well, this is going to end VERY badly.

Too many of these have simply siezed on the Syrian crisis and decided to use it as a "free ticket" to the "land of dreams"- where "the government" (actually, the citizens of the country they are invading) will give them free apartments, food, medical care and "jobs". Oh, and of course, make accomodations for their religion, in every way.

Having seen what Muslims do every time they get a foothold in a Christian country, I don't blame the Eastern European countries AT ALL for insisting that- at least- the refugees they accept will fit into their society in at least this one way. Most other cultural issues can be addressed and solved- often through compromise, IF religious views are compatible. Muslims- by definition- can never be compatible with Christians, as their book calls them Kaffirs and demands their conversion- forced if necessary, or their deaths.

Summerthyme
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
I was just thinking about the changing seasons and the cold weather on the way. This thing is going to go critical within the next 6-8 weeks. Most European countries already have half of their population on the dole. How they think they can accommodate hundreds of thousands of new hard-luck cases arriving on their door with no resources is beyond imagination.

And just when the economic bubble is ready to pop. Makes my stomach do flip-flops.
 

WalknTrot

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Farage Blasts: ‘Europe Must Be Mad’ to Not Stop the Boats, Juncker: British Electorate Views are ‘Worthless’

by Raheem Kassam9 Sep 2015

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ncker-british-electorate-views-are-worthless/

EU Commission President Jean Claude Juncker has today delivered his “State of the Union” speech – an annual address to the European Parliament which attempts to portray the unelected bureaucrat as a figure in the style of the U.S. President. But during his speech, UKIP leader Nigel Farage heckled the EU leader, saying that the EU must be “mad” not to stop the boats and therefore stop more deaths.

Although the entirety of the liberal-left, establishment media, and EU has swung behind the idea of welcoming millions of migrants into Europe over the next few years, Mr Farage cited the strategy employed by Australia’s Tony Abbott, as explained here on Breitbart London, which not only stopped the boats, but stopped more deaths occuring as a result of illegal attempts at migration.

But Mr Juncker, according to the BBC and Sky News lashed out at Mr Farage, explaining that his views which are offered on behalf of the British electorate of the South East region who have repeatedly elected Mr Farage to represent them since 1999, are “worthless”.

Mr Juncker’s mean-spirited remarks came moments after the UKIP leader was himself heckled while delivering his speech from the front bench in Strasbourg.

UPDATE: Mr Farage has tweeted that the BBC and Sky have skewed their coverage of the incident, and that Mr Juncker’s comments were NOT actually aimed at him, but rather at heckling UKIP MEP David Coburn:

But despite the fact that Mr Farage was the first political party leader, in 2013, to urge that some Syrian migrants were granted refugee status in Britain, the BBC, combined with Conservative Party MEP Sajjad Karim, took to the airwaves to disseminate the lie that Mr Farage has called for no refugees to be allowed into Britain.

Karim is a former Liberal Democrat and has been nicknamed “Salvage Career” by some of his colleagues because of his defection to the Conservative Party just because his own party was all but wiped out in the European Parliament. He claimed that Mr Farage had urged Britain to take the same action as the Gulf states who have not played any part in rescuing many of their co-religionists, and regional neighbours.

In fact, Mr Farage had simply pointed out the hypocrisy of them not doing so.

The BBC’s clip did not show Mr Farage’s comments, but featured an extended applause for Mr Juncker from the European Parliamentary chamber, followed by Mr Karim’s commentary. One UKIP official described the coverage to Breitbart London as “a disgrace”.

The incident followed Mr Juncker’s statements to the parliament today where he claimed that the European Union was not in good shape – claiming there’s “not enough Europe, and not enough Union.” He urged countries across the EU to take even more migrants than had been initially proposed, even though it has recently transpired that most of those arriving across Europe are economic migrants, and mostly young, fit, relatively well-off men.

“Thank you. Mr Juncker you’ve simply got this wrong.

“As I warned you in April, the European Common Asylum Policy sets its terms so wide that to say that anyone who sets a foot on EU soil can stay, I said it would lead to a flow of biblical proportions and indeed that is what we are beginning to see and that’s been compounded by Germany last week saying that basically anyone can come. It is a bit too late now to draw up a list of countries from whom can stay and can’t stay. All they have to do, as they’re doing, is to throw their passports in the Mediterranean and say they’re coming from Syria. As we know the majority of people that are coming and the Slovak Prime Minister has been honest enough to say so, the majority that are coming are economic migrants.

“In addition we see as I warned earlier evidence that ISIS are now using this route to put their jihadists on European soil. We must be mad to take this risk with the cohesion of our societies. If we want to help genuine refugees, if we want to protect our societies, if we want to stop the criminal trafficking gangs from benefitting as they are, we must stop the boats coming as the Australians did and then we can assess who qualifies for refugee status.

“I noted your comments because there is a referendum coming in the United Kingdom. I look forward to seeing you in the UK, I know you intend to spend tens of millions of pounds of British tax payers money telling us what we should think. I have a feeling that the British people will warm to you on a personal level but to suggest that getting rid of a few EU regulations is going to change our minds, sorry unless you give Mr Cameron back control and discretion over our borders the Brits will over the course of the next year, vote to leave.”
 

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Hundreds of Iranian followers of the Yarsan faith, known as Kakai, have joined the new wave of migration to Europe - http://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/09092015


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Kurdish Kakai flee state ‘discrimination’ in Iran

By RUDAW 49 minutes ago

ERBIL, Kurdistan Region—Hundreds of Iranian followers of the Yarsan faith, known as Kakai, have joined the new wave of migration to Europe, leaving behind a country that has failed to recognize their ancient religion, asylum seekers told Rudaw.

“There are many more of us now leaving Iran because of the systematic discrimination against us,” a young Kurdish Kakai told Rudaw in a refugee camp in Germany who wished to be unnamed.

The Kakai, also called Ahl-e-Haqq or “People of Truth,” reportedly number about one million around the world and the faith is mostly practiced among Kurds. The followers live predominantly in western Iran and in smaller numbers in Iraq.

“We are regarded as an lower class with basically no rights or government positions,” said another Kakai who also asked anonymity.

In 2013, Kakai in Iran staged protests and acts of self-immolation after prison guards violated a religious rule by shaving off the moustache of a Kurdish Kakai inmate.

One fellow Yarsan who set himself on fire in protest outside the mayor’s office in the Iranian city of Hamadan died in hospital of severe burns.

Christians, Jews, and Zoroastrians are recognized in the constitution of the Islamic Republic, but Yarsan is not considered a legal entity.

The religion has been called a “false cult” by the government and accused of falsifying Islam.
 

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BREAKING: US will take more Syrian refugees: Kerry - @AFP
 

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Wilders Tells Dutch Parliament Refugee Crisis Is ‘Islamic Invasion’

Reuters 10 Sep 2015

Dutch far-right leader Geert Wilders called the wave of refugees pushing into Europe an “Islamic invasion”, during a parliamentary debate on Thursday that exposed deep divisions over how the Netherlands should respond to the crisis.

European Commission chief Jean-Claude Juncker on Wednesday appealed to EU members to share out refugees arriving on the bloc’s fringes. Several EU countries oppose the idea of mandatory quotas, as supported by German Chancellor Angela Merkel, and the conservative Dutch government says it is only willing to take in more if all EU states agree.

At the start of the debate, Wilders called the wave of refugees passing through Hungary and other countries “an Islamic invasion of Europe, of the Netherlands.”

“Masses of young men in their twenties with beards singing Allahu Akbar across Europe. It’s an invasion that threatens our prosperity, our security, our culture and identity,” he said.

Tens of thousands of people, many fleeing war and Islamic State in Syria, are trying to get to Germany where Merkel has said they will be allowed to stay. Wilders said the fact that they were pushing northwards through the EU from the Mediterranean indicated many were economic migrants, not refugees.

“Turkey, Greece, Macedonia, Serbia are safe countries. If you flee them then you are doing it for benefits and a house,” said Wilders, whose Party for Freedom leads Dutch opinion polls.

Roughly 54 percent of Dutch voters are opposed to accepting more than roughly 2,000 refugees previously agreed, a poll from last week showed. Under the latest proposals that figure is seen rising to more than 9,000.

Prime Minister Mark Rutte’s government said on Friday it was willing in principle to accept a larger share of asylum seekers, but only as a “temporary solution”.

In the long term, the Dutch want better shelters for refugees near conflict zones and will donate 110 million euros ($123 million) this year to improve capacity in and near Syria.

Jesse Klaver of the opposition GreenLeft said: “We should agree with the request of the European Commission unconditionally and without differentiating between the short and long term.”

Rutte’s fragile coalition government nearly split in April over asylum policy. The government plans to toughen its stance by cutting off food and shelter after a few weeks for those whose claims for refugee status are turned down.

It was not clear whether lawmakers would vote on the issue after their debate.
 

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CAMERON’S EU ALLY SAYS HOUSE MIGRANTS IN THE EU PARLIAMENT… NO ABILITY TO STOP REFUGEES ‘S

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/10/borderless-europe-will-not-contain-this-migrant-invasion/


SIMON KENT 10 Sep 2015

Beatrix von Storch, of the European Conservatives and Reformists group, offers the assembly’s 220,000-square-meter complex as shelter to the thousands of migrants expected soon in the Strasbourg area. She said: “I call for an immediate practical contribution of the EU Parliament and its members for the refugee crisis. The vacant Strasbourg buildings and the local infrastructure can be used immediately to alleviate the lack of refugee centers in the Euro district.”

The European Parliament is used only four days a month for plenary sessions. For the rest of the year it sits mostly empty. Von Storch’s idea is to accommodate migrants in the 750 offices of the Strasbourg headquarters, all of which are equipped with folding beds, showers and toilets.

Unsurprisingly, the self-regarding gesture was greeted with applause during the plenary on Monday.

And as tens of thousands of migrants are flooding a porous, borderless Europe, questions are now being asked as to what is stopping these young Muslim men – because that is overwhelmingly who they are – from going wherever they fancy once their claims are processed? Well, not much really.

Described as the “Achilles heel of the migrant relocation plan”, people are now starting to worry about “secondary movements”, with the European Commission also alive to the fact that very little can stop those settled in Germany, Hungary, or elsewhere, shifting across borders.

A factsheet on the European Commission website states:

“How will ‘secondary movements’ be avoided? Will people not just move on to another EU Member State?

“When someone is relocated to another EU country, they only have the right to legally reside in that country and cannot move on to another EU country.

“If they do, and are apprehended, they will be transferred back to the country of legal residence under the rules of the Dublin Regulation.

“No person will be relocated from frontline Member States without first having had their fingerprints taken, meaning a person’s country of legal residence can be quickly verified.

“The fact that a relocated person will only be entitled to the rights attached to international protection in the Member State of relocation will also serve as a disincentive for secondary movements.

“The Commission has also recommended to Member States that they consider imposing reporting obligations on relocated persons applying for asylum and only providing material reception conditions (providing food, housing and clothing only in kind).”
But as you will have already worked out, their solutions are broadly unworkable. Firstly, it behoves the European Court of Human Rights to uphold the same privileges for all European citizens. Telling some they can move around while others have to stay put is highly unlikely. Secondly, how do you check people in and out of nation states in a borderless Europe, and “remove” their [human] rights if they do move? It doesn’t make sense.

Germany alone expects 800,000 asylum claims in 2015. The government is talking of taking 500,000 migrants annually until the end of the decade while Chancellor Angela Merkel calls the migrant invasion “the next great European project.”

The rest of Europe might be saying “good luck with that” but in reality nobody can put a figure on the influx. As Breitbart London reported, Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orban has warned that migrants in ‘uncountable millions’ from the Middle East and sub-Saharan Africa are on the way.


But what is at first blush a German act of misguided magnanimity to offer each and every one asylum could soon become everyone else’s problem because, as plenty of commentators have pointed out, what you reward you get more of.

As I keep saying, we opted out of common asylum. (Oh and Hungary big numbers @Stone_SkyNews) pic.twitter.com/0ow2V68VA4

— Raheem Kassam (@RaheemKassam) September 10, 2015​

There is nothing on earth to stop these young men moving wherever they want. Maybe they’ll go where the weather suits their clothes. Perhaps they’ll seek out like-minded souls or Muslim co-religionists. More certainly they’ll do as they damn well please because Germany has let them by turning its back on the accepted conventions of the Dublin Agreement and self-regulation is a pre-condition of migrants agreeing to stay where they are processed.

The United Nations High Commissioner For Refugees (UNHCR) is a little bit more practical. It is acutely aware of what lies ahead and this week published figures that should chill you to the bone. It revealed that the migrant stream is comprised of 15 per cent children, 13 per cent women and 72 per cent young males coming from Syria, Afghanistan, Eritrea, Nigeria, Somalia and Pakistan in that order.

They all ride the human conveyor belt from their landing points on the shores of the Mediterranean in Italy and Greece before heading through Serbia then Hungary and on to Germany.


Such is the appeal that the Wall Street Journal has pointed out that Iraqis are now joining the flood prompting airlines to add three more daily flights to Istanbul—on top of five packed flights a day already departing Baghdad for the Turkish city.

All brought to you by Angela Merkel and a spineless EU.
 

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CHAOS IN EUROPE: ROADS, RAILWAYS AND FERRIES CLOSED AS IMMIGRANT FLOOD OVERWHELMS TRANSPORT


http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...osed-as-immigrant-flood-overwhelms-transport/

OLIVER LANE 10 Sep 2015

Borders are being closed and major European Union (EU) treaties are being discarded as tens of thousands of migrants swarm across Europe, overwhelming national police forces in their wake.

Nations on the conveyor belt across Europe, from Serbia to Hungary, Austria, on through Germany and up to Sweden by way of Denmark have been recording record numbers of immigrants crossing their borders, all but unimpeded, over the past week. Just this morning EU member Hungary reported a new record, with 3,321 heading from Serbia – a non EU member – in the past 24 hours. The United Nations refugee agency estimates the week’s figure for ingress to Hungary along will top 42,000, almost as many as the whole of August.

Although Hungary is attempting to close the border with Serbia by building a wall and enacting new legislation to protect Europe, the country is not being thanked for its actions. Senior figures in the European Union have repeatedly expressed disapproval at the Hungarian prime minister’s move and British newspaper The Guardian asked this week ‘how does Europe solve a problem like Viktor Orbán?’, recalling how Angela Merkel once helped “topple” “problem figure” Italian PM Silvio Berlusconi.

The Serbia-Hungary border was closed last week, and has been in a state of political flux since uncontrollable volumes of people walked the major M5 motorway between Serbian capital Belgrade and Hungarian capital Budapest. Dozens of major arterial routes have been closed across the continent since, as police have been forced to re-route legitimate traffic as the column of immigrants headed north.

After an easy passage through soft-touch Germany, trouble flares up again on the border with Denmark, and further at the Swedish border. The European Union’s Dublin agreement states that refugees are to be located in the EU nation they are first registered in, which in theory should be Hungary or Greece. But as overworked police forces become unable to process every individual, thousands are left to travel without official recognition at all until they reach Sweden and other honeypot nations, where they want to be registered for the more generous benefits and reunification rights.

Migrants are now reluctant to stay in Denmark after the new government introduced measures to make the nation less attractive to foreigners immediately after this year’s general election. Unemployment benefit was slashed by over 50 per cent to non-natives, replaced with a new integration benefit, with additional payments made once newcomers had learnt Danish.

With the Dublin agreement effectively suspended in many European nations, Sweden is becoming desperate to ensure migrants are registered anywhere else before they arrive there and become their legal responsibility. Thousands are consequently held in Denmark, where ‘refugees’ become economic migrants and plead with authorities to look away as they go on to their nation of choice.

These bottlenecks are causing significant trouble for European transport infrastructure. Major road and rail closures are now familiar to Britain and France, as migrants risk their lives to make it from France to the United Kingdom by way of the Channel Tunnel. But the immigrant blockage is now filtering back through Europe.

The border between Germany and Denmark was closed last night by Danish police as hundreds of migrants continued their foot journey north to Sweden, suspending the European Union’s ‘Schengen’ border-less zone. The Guardian reports Danish police instructed railway operators to stop all trains going between the two nations “until further notice”, with police physically stopping two trains at Rødby, Denmark, and stopping ferries crossing the Baltic.

Passport checks have been reconstituted on the Danish-German border, possibly for the first time since 2001.

Denmark wasn’t the only flashpoint last night. Austrian police were also forced to close a major motorway after a column of 800-strong immigrant column “surprised” the force when they walked up the main motorway to Vienna from Budapest. Early reports said the police were monitoring the situation as they counted the illegal immigrants in, as a police spokesman remarked “We will wait and see what the situation is in the next few hours and tonight, if more people come. This is absolutely possible”. By the end of the night, a remarkable 3,000 had crossed into Vienna illegally, totally overwhelming police.

More than 1,700 crossed the border in just the three hours after midnight, reports TheLocal.at, with 2,800 now waiting at Nickelsdorf, a small town sitting immediately on the border.
 

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Migrant crisis: Germany says EU quota plan not enough
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Image caption Thousands of migrants are enduring heavy rain in northern Greece, trying to cross into Macedonia

EU plans for member states to accept 160,000 new asylum seekers are only a first step in solving the migrant crisis, Germany's vice-chancellor says.

Sigmar Gabriel said 450,000 people had arrived in Germany so far this year, with 37,000 in the first eight days of September.

Tens of thousands, mainly Syrians, have pushed north in recent weeks.

Serbian TV says a record 5,000 migrants have arrived at the border with Hungary in the past 24 hours.

The Hungarian army earlier started military exercises to prepare for a possible future role in guarding the border and stem the flow of people - a move criticised by human rights groups.

Meanwhile, Austria's government said 5,700 people had crossed over from Hungary in recent hours. National train operator OeBB temporarily suspended services from Hungary because of the increasing numbers and the risks of overcrowding.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34207851
 

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Foreign ministers to meet on refugee crisis
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People wait to cross the Greek-Macedonian border near the village of Idomeni, in northern Greece

A number of eastern European foreign ministers are to meet their counterparts from Germany and Luxembourg tomorrow to discuss the ongoing refugee crisis.

Foreign ministers from the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland and Slovakia are to attend the meeting in Prague.

The meeting "shall contribute to better mutual understanding among EU member states in (the light of) some differing views concerning the solution of the current migration crisis," it said in a statement.

The European Union's eastern members have taken the hardest stance against compulsory quotas proposed by the EU Commission to ensure fair distribution of refugees among the 28-member bloc.

The Visegrad-four prime ministers in unison rejected the quotas last week, adding that the EU should focus on tackling the root causes of the migrant crisis, protecting the Schengen borders and fighting migrant smugglers.

Yesterday, European Commission chief Jean-Claude Juncker asked EU states to agree next week to relocate 160,000 refugees from overstretched EU frontline countries Greece, Hungary and Italy.

Under the plan, the Visegrad-four countries would take in thousands of refugees - but far fewer than Germany and France.

The European Parliament has overwhelmingly backed Mr Juncker's plans, with legislators voting in favour of the motion for a permanent mechanism of binding quotas to deal with future emergencies.
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Austrian Railways has suspended its services to Hungary after trains arrived from Budapest packed with migrants.

"Because of the massive overcrowding of trains coming from Hungary, OeBB has to suspend train services to Hungary temporarily," the company said in a statement.

Denmark's train operator said it expected rail traffic across the German border to resume later today, after police ordered services to be suspended due to an influx of migrants.

Police meanwhile announced they were letting refugees travel freely through Denmark without registering if they did not want to seek asylum there.

This would allow them to head to Sweden which is the preferred destination of many because of its more welcoming and generous asylum policy.

"We can't hold foreigners who don't want to seek asylum" in Denmark, national police chief Jens Henrik Hojbjerg said.

The police decision appeared to contradict the Danish political line.

Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen insisted on Monday that refugees arriving in Denmark ought to be registered and have their asylum requests processed there.
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Meanwhile, Danish train operator DSB said trains would be functioning normally today between Flensburg in northern Germany and Padborg in southwestern Denmark.

However, a busy ferry crossing in Rodby, around 135kmsouth of Copenhagen, would remain closed to trains a day after 340 refugees refused to disembark from services arriving from Germany, Denmark's southern neighbour, demanding to continue on to Sweden.

Many of the refugees refused to register with Danish authorities.

After lengthy negotiations, around 100 of them agreed to remain in Denmark and lodge their asylum requests there.

The 240 or so others were allowed to disembark late last night without police intervening.

"Where they have gone I don't know. I think they were picked up by private cars or have taken taxis further away. We are no longer monitoring them," police commissioner John Andersen told news agency Ritzau.

Sweden, one of many European countries struggling with the worst migration crisis since World War II, has become a top EU destination for refugees by issuing permanent residency to all Syrian asylum seekers.

In contrast, Denmark has sought to reduce the influx by issuing temporary residence permits, delaying family reunions and slashing benefits for newly arrived immigrants.

Meanwhile, ferry operator Scandlines announced that only passengers travelling by car would be let aboard ferries between Rodby and Puttgarden in Germany.

The ferries usually carry both cars, trains and passengers on foot.

Police yesterday closed part of a motorway near Padborg for a few hours after around 300 refugees, including large numbers of women and children, set off on foot for Sweden.

The migrants had been housed in an old school building after arriving in the town but took to the road, saying they wanted to travel north to Sweden.

Some elderly people called off their 300km trek to Copenhagen, the jumping-off point for crossings by bus, train or car to Sweden.

Yesterday afternoon the rest of the group left the motorway to spend the night in a local community centre.

According to Danish authorities, 3,200 refugees have arrived in Denmark since Sunday, of which 400 have sought asylum.

UN council considers EU response to migrant smugglers

Meanwhile, the UN Security Council is considering allowing European naval forces to board and search ships on the high seas in an effort combat the smuggling of migrants, diplomats said.

The draft Security Council resolution, focused on ships leaving from Libya, is currently being circulated among the five permanent members of the Security Council and the other European countries affected.

But it has not yet been distributed to the full 15-member Security Council, diplomats said.

Russian Ambassador to the UN Vitaly Churkin, this month's president of the council, said the resolution "may well be adopted in September."

Another Security Council diplomat expressed hope the resolution could be adopted "in the next couple of weeks, before the UN General Assembly" meets in late September.


Keywords: denmark, migrants
http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0910/726852-migrants/
 

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Those 800,000 "Refugees" will Make Muslims 10% of Germany's Young Male Population
Daniel Greenfield

You may have heard that Germany will be taking in 800,000 migrants this year. That's a lot of people, but we'll be told that it's only 1 percent of the country's 80 million people.

1 percent isn't so bad? Right.

But you don't measure immigrant impact by total population, but by contextual population.

Germany does have 80 million, but 16 million of those are senior citizens. Another 11 million are 55 and over.

Most of the refugees are young men. They're going to be fitting into the 15-24 age cohort. And Germany only has 8.5 million of those. Only 4.3 million of those are men.

These are rough 'back of the envelope' calculations. The refugees do include some women and children. But then again Germany already has a sizable number of Muslims that is estimated as approaching 5 million. Demographically Muslim settlers tend to be younger than the native population. That appears to be true in Germany.

The median age for Muslims in Europe was 32. The median age for Europeans is 40. An older source lists the average age of Muslims in Germany as 34 and non-Muslims as 48. This is a much bigger gap. 39 percent of Muslims in Germany are under 30.

These calculations are crude back of the envelope stuff using mixed data, but that would suggest that 2 million Muslims in Germany are under 30. Their numbers are about to be inflated by less than a third just this year.

Germany's young Muslim migrant population already skews sharply male. So do the new "refugees". But the Muslim population, due to polygamy, social services exploitation and female servitude, also skews very sharply with many children.

What percentage of the young male population in Germany will be Muslim? It's hard to arrive at a definitive figure, but even the most generous (to German demographics) scenarios would put it at 10 percent.

But the catastrophe is accelerating because Germany's population is skewing older. As Muslim migration continues, the new settlers will become a majority of the young male population with all that implies about crime, terrorism and a basic takeover of the country.
 

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Europe Braces For Rape Epidemic From Incoming Migrant Hordes - Op-Eds
Ryan Bellerose

Swedish school authorities are warning their girls to keep their knees and arms covered for fear of this fresh influx of refugees.

Who might they be, these refugees? People from China, Japan, Canada, the United States?

You win if you guessed Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and mostly, as of late, Syria.

Teachers are saying this new influx into Sweden, which is already the rape capital of world due to a previous influx of the same kind, brings with it men who simply have a different way of looking at girls and women. They are not used to women who – well, they simply are not used to women, period.

Where they come from women are toys, playthings and birthing machines.

So the Swedes are warning their kids to be extra careful because these new people come from a place where women get no respect. They expect to be abused.

They expect to be raped. Raping is normal in that part of the world.

That is not how I read it in the paper just the other day, but since I lost that particular clipping readers will please rely on my interpretation – for in fact the Swedes never used such terms as “abuse” or “rape.” That would be un-Swedish and so un-European. Political correctness must be observed.

Nor will they admit that nearly all these asylum-seekers are men without women.

So what they say is that these new refugees, mostly from Syria, bring with them a different culture – and it is a culture that must be respected.

Therefore it is not for them to adapt to us – it is for us to adapt to them. When they rape, it is our fault. They can’t help themselves.

They see a woman – and she is theirs for the taking. These well-fed lusty men simply cannot control themselves and their thrill-seeking ways.

It is their way of life and they cannot be blamed.

So say the Swedes, but by use of European Talk, which means using metaphors and avoiding any truth that stares you in the face, like the EU’s plague of rapists.

My Swedish waitress Olga -- Is she upset about what’s happening to her home country?

Yes,” she said. “Those poor people. We must have compassion.”


Strangely, Israel’s Arabs are having no part of the stampede onto Europe. They seem quite content to stay put.

She does not mean the rape victims. She means the brutes. This does not make her heartless. This makes her European. That is how they think.

That is how they are being destroyed from within, and illustrates how absolutely futile it is to reason with Europeans or with American Liberals.

They are entirely too busy being merciful to the wicked…and we know how that ends.

They welcome the predators who can’t control their sexual appetites, as to turn them back would prove that some people are different.

For the typical European and for the typical American Liberal, this is the guiding creed – All people are the same. All people are good.

Rather than face the fact that people are different, that Christians and Jews share no values with cannibals from Islam, Europe is prepared to roll over to accept the virtues of brute force. Europeans are ready to make the switch from the Bible to the Koran; from the belief that women are to be honored and protected to a custom that treats women like cattle.

This is your Europe of today, a place being gobbled up by people, among them savages, who know how to prey upon Western heartstrings. Strangely, Israel’s Arabs are having no part of the stampede onto Europe. They seem quite content to stay put. Very strange.

The Koran has arrived and it has come to devour the Bible,” we wrote in this book. Finally, we are correct.

One by one they go with the flow of Islam.

In time the cultured European will be inseparable from the primitive, at the expense of women who already have no place to hide.

Still they come, and tomorrow Mr. Obama is bringing them to the United States.

So do not laugh at Sweden and poke no fun at Europe. Lock up your daughters[and wives]. More jihadists are coming next door.

New York-based author and bestselling novelist Jack Engelhard writes a regular column for Arutz Sheva. His novel “Indecent Proposal” was translated into more than 22 languages and turned into a Paramount motion picture starring Robert Redford and Demi Moore. His latest thriller is “The Bathsheba Deadline.” Website: www.jackengelhard.com
 

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Obama Orders That America Take In 70,000 Islamic “Refugees,” But Now John Kerry Says That The Number Will Be Up To 100,000 Muslims. Be Prepared For ISIS Massacres To Happen In The US Soon
By Ted on September 10, 2015 in Featured, General

By Theodore Shoebat

Obama has ordered that America take in 70,000 Islamic refugees. Just today press secretary Josh Earnest said that the United States would “accept at least 10,000 refugees in the next fiscal year,” which begins October 1st. But the whole number that has been authorized is 70,000. But John Kerry, in a closed-door meeting said that the number could be raised even higher, to 100,000. According to one report:

Earlier, Secretary of State John Kerry, said at a closed-door meeting on Capitol Hill that that the total number of refugees taken in by the United States could rise to more than 100,000, from the current figure of 70,000.

When these “refugees” come, what do you think will happen but ISIS terrorists being in the states? The French police are already looking for an ISIS agent amongst the refugees who are heading for England.

La Voix du Nord newspaper reported:

An Islamic State combatant believed to be in Calais is being actively hunted by the authorities. … He left Syria at the end of August and hopes to reach Britain where he intends to commit terrorist acts. …He is the subject of most wanted person notice and is considered a threat to state security.

Hungary’s most popular national TV channel, M1, reported Tuesday Islamic terrorists are amongst the refugees and are disguising themselves as refugees:

Islamist terrorists, disguised as refugees, have showed up in Europe. [The] pictures were uploaded on various social networks to show that terrorists are now present in most European cities. Many, who are now illegal immigrants, fought alongside Islamic State before

Here is a photo of one of the terrorists, who is said by Hungarian media to be disguising himself as a refugee:

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One of the terrorists, Laith Al Saleh, 30, was reported by the AP to have “led a 700-strong rebel unit in Syria’s civil war.” No doubt this is a terrorist, and there is no doubt that the US will be getting these types in its land. Reg Whitaker, a national security specialist, said:

It is possible that among the stream of wretched refugees desperately looking for a way, that there might be some who aren’t exactly the people we want to bring in

Stephen Harper, Canada’s Prime Minister, is also expressing concerns that amongst the refugees there are terrorists, saying:

When we are dealing with people that are from, in many cases, a terrorist war zone, we are going to make sure that we screen people appropriately and the security of this country is fully protected

And don’t think for a second that the officials in Washington know the danger and the threat. The American Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said in Washington:

We don’t put it past the likes of ISIL to infiltrate operatives among these refugees… That is a huge concern of ours. … I’m not as uniformly confident about each European country that is going to be faced with welcoming and allowing refugees into their country… This is a huge issue for all kinds of reasons.

America will not just be receiving Syrians, but other people from the Muslim world as well, quite possibly Pakistanis and Afghans who have inundated the refugee multitudes. America is going to be taking in people who have seen beheadings, conducted beheadings, and who are desensitized to this violence. So don’t be surprised the next time you see Islamic violence.
 

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White House press secretary says before US commits to taking in Syrian refugees, 'Congress would need to make a significant financial commitment to ramping up' funding for security precautions - @Reuters

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President Barack Obama has directed his administration 'to accept at least 10,000 Syrian refugees in the next fiscal year,' according to White House press secretary - @Jordanfabian
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Saw this elsewhere:

Published on Sep 10, 2015

www.undergroundworldnews.com

Barack Hussein Obama, who is bringing in as many Muslims as possible before he leaves office, has chosen states (red) with the most mosques in which to dump them. Next in line are states (pink) with lots of leftist Jews, followed by the Bible Belt (orange & gold) where anti-Muslim sentiment probably is the highest (Obama’s favorite Muslim dumping grounds).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbE2mpBzUKw

 

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Refugees: Another One for the 'Not Our Problem' File
For half a century, the U.S. has taken in the vast majority of the world's refugees. Isn't it somebody else's turn?
September 10, 2015
Ann Coulter

Among the benefits of Donald Trump's proposed immigration moratorium is that we won't have to keep importing hordes of Third World "refugees," such as the ones currently swarming across Europe.

For decades, the United States has taken in far more refugees than the entire rest of the world combined. Nearly half of the refugees we take in are Muslim.

And it's worked out great!

Fazliddin Kurbanov, or "Idaho man," as he is dutifully described in the American media, was brought to the U.S. as a refugee in 2009, joining hundreds of other Uzbeks in Boise, Idaho. He came with his wife and young child, his sister and his two ailing parents. (What an economic powerhouse that family must be. Marco Rubio is right: We're making all kinds of money off of immigrants!)

So grateful was Kurbanov to America for rescuing his entire family from "persecution" that he spent the next few years conspiring to commit jihad against us.

As he cheerfully told his terrorist buddies back in Uzbekistan: "We are the closest ones to infidels. We have almost everything. What would you say if, with the help of God, we implement a martyrdom act? ... There are military installations right here, targets, and vehicles are available as well."

Kurbanov had plenty of time on his hands to plot terrorist attacks in the U.S. because he was being supported by you, taxpayer. As the Lewiston Morning Tribune (Idaho) reported: He was "struggling" to find a job -- preferably something that involved either marketing or killing all the Jews.

Last month, Kurbanov was convicted of various terrorism charges, based on his possession of Tannerite, ammonium nitrate, bullets and aluminum powder, as well as his stated intention, in conversations recorded by the FBI, to bomb military bases in Idaho and Texas.

For the cherry on top, the whole welfare-dependent, Islamic terrorist-nurturing family won refugee status in America by claiming they were persecuted in Uzbekistan for being Christians.

I am 100 percent sure there will be no thought given to deporting the rest of this useless family. To the contrary, we're probably bringing in their cousins. You wouldn't want to separate families, would you?

A few years ago, the FBI realized we'd let in scores of Iraqi terrorists as "refugees," including Mohanad Shareef Hammadi and Waad Ramadan Alwan -- the latter of whose fingerprints were found on boxes of IEDs seized in Iraq. On FBI surveillance tapes, the men bragged about having used a sniper rifle to kill American soldiers north of Baghdad, blowing up Bradley tanks and building more than a dozen bombs for use against U.S. Troops.

After being happily "resettled" into public housing in Bowling Green, Kentucky, they continued their war against America, including one specific Army captain. Soldiers who had survived an IED attack that killed four troops in Iraq were warned by the FBI that their comrades' murderers had been relocated to America -- courtesy of the U.S. government -- and might be coming for them.

The Boston Marathon bombers, Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, had received asylum in the U.S., before launching the 2013 attacks that left four dead and thousands injured in Boston. That's not including the three Jewish men whose throats Tamerlan slit in Waltham, Massachusetts, a few years earlier.

The entire extended Tsarnaev family got asylum based on Russia's brutal crackdown on Chechnyan Muslims -- persecution so unspeakable that various family members continued to vacation there.

Hundreds of "refugees" from Somalia and elsewhere, who have been granted fast-track U.S. citizenship because of their sworn fear of persecution in their home countries, seem to forget all about that "credible fear" as soon as the time comes to go back and engage in jihad.

To be sure, not all our beloved refugees are Muslim terrorists. Some are Hutu terrorists. A few years ago, we took in a genocidal Rwandan, Beatrice Munyenyezi, as a "refugee."

Only after Munyenyezi was granted citizenship did we find out that, as the federal court put it, she had "personally participated in the mass killing of innocent women, men and children merely because they were called Tutsi."

Although her American citizenship was revoked, Munyenyezi remains a legal U.S. resident, whom we are supporting in prison for the next decade. Only an immigration court can order her deportation. Which it will not.

A few other heart-warming humanitarian stories:

-- Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, or "the Blind Sheik," imprisoned for life in the U.S. for his participation in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing: Asylee.

-- Ramzi Yousef, ringleader of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing: Asylee.

-- Egyptian Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, who shot up the El Al ticket counter at the Los Angeles airport, killing two: Refugee.

And the list goes on ...

Even the refugees who don't specifically come here to murder Americans aren't fleeing persecution. They're fleeing countries with less generous welfare policies than we have in the West. Which won't exist anymore, if we don't turn off the spigot from the Third World.

For at least half a century, the U.S. has taken in the vast majority of the world's refugees. Isn't it somebody else's turn, now?

How about Mexico take in a few "refugees"? Why not El Salvador or Honduras? Could the pope have a word with his co-religionists about the suffering in Syria? How about Vatican City? Talk about the perfect place to build some low-income housing projects!

Maybe it's time the world gets used to life without the United States. If our current immigration policies aren't stopped, this country will soon be nothing more than another failed Latin American state.

Speaking of which, I note that our allies, Japan and Israel, aren't taking in any Syrian refugees. Japan is pretty far away, but Israel is even closer to Syria than Sweden is! Evidently, Japan and Israel aren't as gung-ho about destroying themselves as our European friends are. Donald Trump's soaring popularity suggests that America may not be ready to commit suicide yet, either.
 

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Those 800,000 "Refugees" will Make Muslims 10% of Germany's Young Male Population
Daniel Greenfield

You may have heard that Germany will be taking in 800,000 migrants this year. That's a lot of people, but we'll be told that it's only 1 percent of the country's 80 million people.

1 percent isn't so bad? Right.

But you don't measure immigrant impact by total population, but by contextual population.

Germany does have 80 million, but 16 million of those are senior citizens. Another 11 million are 55 and over.

Most of the refugees are young men. They're going to be fitting into the 15-24 age cohort. And Germany only has 8.5 million of those. Only 4.3 million of those are men.

And since only something like 13% of these migrants/refugees/invasion members are women, that means hundreds of thousands of young moslem men have no wife or possibility of one. And we know what has happened in Sweden with moslem men and rape.

This is far worse than a recipe for disaster.
 

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Video at Breitbart, cannot embed here.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015...fficient-intelligence-to-vet-syrian-refugees/

HOMELAND SECURITY CHAIR: ‘WE DON’T HAVE’ ‘SUFFICIENT’ INTELLIGENCE TO VET SYRIAN REFUGEES


IAN HANCHETT 10 Sep 2015


House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX) stated, “we don’t have human intelligence on the ground properly in Syria, to have the database that’s sufficient to vet these individuals to know that they’re not threats” regarding the Syrian refugees on Thursday’s “America’s Newsroom” on the Fox News Channel.

McCaul said, “I just got out of a briefing with homeland security officials, FBI, counterterrorism, and the concern, Martha, is that we don’t have human intelligence on the ground properly in Syria, to have the database that’s sufficient to vet these individuals to know that they’re not threats. I was in Jordan, at one of these refugee camps, a million of them. And they told me — the Jordanians, that they don’t know who these people are as well. And so until we can properly vet them through the right databases, it would be highly irresponsible to start bringing them in, when they could be potential terrorists, and provide a sort of a jihadist pipeline into the United States. We did this in Iraq when we had very good intelligence, and we brought in several that had already killed Americans.”

McCaul also wondered, “Why aren’t the Gulf states taking these people?” And stated that he would be “putting a lot of pressure on the Gulf states to absorb this refugee crisis” and that they are “better equipped” to handle the crisis than the US.



From video, my notes:

[The whole region is chaos, tumult, more refugees even since WW2 from failed feckless forgeign policy of 0 administration" McCain... (!!!) McCain went and got buddy buddy with Syrian terrorists - now he's crying.

McCaul saying we don't have humanint on the ground in Syria to be able to vet the people. Jordanians don't know who they are either. Be highly irresponsible to bring them in, could be a jihahdist pipeline for terrorists. Even Iraqis who came as refugees with vetting, some had killed Americans previously. This is a result of failed foreign policy regarding Assad, failed foreign policy by 0bama admin. Why aren't the Gulf countries taking them in? Then when conflict is resolved the refugees could easily go back to their own countries. The Gulf states' responsibility. US doens't have a strategy to deal with ISIS.

DHS and FBI don't want these refugees here.
 

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REP. MCCAUL: ISIS SEEKS TO USE REFUGEE ROUTS TO INFILTRATE WEST

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...eeks-to-use-refugee-routs-to-infiltrate-west/

CAROLINE MAY 10 Sep 2015

President Obama’s plan to resettle at least 10,000 Syrian refugees in the U.S. next fiscal year carries real national security risks, House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX)61%
warns.

“The President wants to surge thousands of Syrian refugees into the United States, in spite of consistent intelligence community and federal law enforcement warnings that we do not have the intelligence needed to vet individuals from the conflict zone,” McCaul said in a statement Thursday.

Earlier Thursday, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said the U.S. would “accept at least 10,000 refugees in the next fiscal year.” Obama’s plan represents a dramatic increase over the 1,800 the U.S. is slated to accept this year.

McCaul has been warning about the potential security risks of accepting high volumes of Syrian refugees for months.

“We also know that ISIS wants to use refugee routes as cover to sneak operatives into the West. I implore the President to consult with Congress before taking any drastic action and to level with the American people about the very real security challenges we face,” the McCaul said.

The Texas lawmaker acknowledged the tragedy of the current Syrian refugee crisis, saying the U.S. can help but urged the administration to take on the real problem, ISIS.


“The President needs to develop a real strategy for victory to defeat ISIS and remove [Syrian President Bashar] Assad from power, which is the root cause of the problem,” he said. This is the culmination of a failed foreign policy to deal with the threats and now we have a humanitarian crisis on our hands.”
 

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http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2...n-fighters-now-promises-vet-daniel-greenfield

Obama Failed to Vet Syrian Fighters, Now Promises to Vet 10,000 Syrian Refugees
Daniel Greenfield

The administration that couldn't put together its Syrian fighting force for the longest time because it couldn't successfully vet them, now promises that it's somehow going to vet the 10,000 Syrian refugees it just promised to inflict on us. Despite minor problems like the fact that Syria is a war zone and our diplomatic relations with it are terrible at even the worst of times.

Don't worry. They've got this covered.

Earnest said national security was a top concern for admitting Syrians, a country rife with anti-American militants, noting that intensive security screening for refugees could take up to 18 months.

"I do feel confident in telling you that the president will not sign off on a process that cuts corners when it comes to the basic safety and security of the American people and the U.S. homeland," Earnest told reporters.

The additional background checks and processing will require a "significant financial commitment" from Congress, Earnest said.

It's 2015 so everyone by now knows how it works.

Just as with Obama's southern border rush, any money designated will just be used to speedily process the terrorists/migrants/refugees while giving them all the free stuff they can handle. There will be no security worth mentioning.

Somehow this will all be the fault of Congress because Obama's "financial commitment request" will be loaded with items so toxic that no one except a Democrat could vote for it and still be reelected.

Or better yet, Obama will never even make that request, but will keep giving high profile speeches demanding that Congress pass a bill without specifying what it is he wants them to pass.

Surely Obama couldn't get away with that?

He's been doing it in the fight against ISIS, demanding something from Congress, without stating what he wants, changing what it is he wants a dozen times, while his minions run around shrieking that Congress doesn't want to fight ISIS. That brand of deranged dishonesty is typical for this administration and its press corps of lackeys.

But back to the Future Terrorists of America.

The United States currently admits annually a total of 70,000 refugees from around the world, and is due to increase that total by 5,000 for the fiscal year starting in October.

White House spokesman Josh Earnest would not say whether the 10,000 Syrians would be a part of or in addition to that total.

So let's assume we're talking about 15K. Mostly fighting age men. Some with military training and experience. But that's not enough.

Melanie Nezer, vice president of HIAS, a global refugee advocacy group, said allowing 10,000 more refugees from Syria is not an adequate response to the crisis at hand.

"This is totally within the realm of what the current system on autopilot could do. This is not time for autopilot. This is time to really ramp things up," said Nezer.

Sure, let's "ramp things up".

How many would Melanie Nezer like to take into her home? Her home appears to have 6 bedrooms and 4 bathrooms for all the Jihadist refugees who just can't hold it in. You can stick a lot of refugees in there.

The question is how many will Melanie take. 10,000 can't be enough. Hopefully she can fit 100,000 in there. We wouldn't want to do this on autopilot. It's a real emergency.

And here's Melanie Nezer complaining how unfairly "refugees" accused of terrorism are deported.

For other refugees, their support of a group that is associated with armed resistance against a government—even when that government has repressed the refugee’s ethnic or religious group and closed peaceful avenues to political change—has rendered them ineligible for protection in the United States.

Just remember, if you're donating money to HIAS, you're funding the next synagogue burning or Boston bombing, because the only thing HIAS seems to do anymore is promote the import of Muslims to America. If you have any elderly relatives getting scammed by HIAS envelopes in the mail. Set them straight. This is what HIAS does now.
 

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Wait - there's moar:

[This is beyond amateur hour, it's into "pry open the doors of the insane asylum and let the inmates run the show hour".]

WATCH: EU PRESIDENT JEAN CLAUDE JUNCKER SAYS ‘TOMORROW MORNING WE WILL HAVE CLIMATE REFUGEES’


http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...morrow-morning-we-will-have-climate-refugees/

BREITBART LONDON 10 Sep 2015

European Commission President Jean Claude Juncker used part of his “State of the Union” speech yesterday to make a bold claim about migration into the European Union that seems to have been missed by most news outlets.

He said, in revelatory comments about how the European Union expects to expand the definition of refugees and migration. He said in his State of the Union speech*:

“One example of where we Europe is already leading is in our action on climate change.

“In Europe we all know that climate change is a major global challenge – and we have known for a while now.

“The planet we share – its atmosphere and stable climate – cannot cope with the use mankind is making of it.

“Some parts of the world have been living beyond their means, creating carbon debt and living on it. As we know from economics and crisis management, living beyond our means is not sustainable behaviour.

“Nature will foot us the bill soon enough. In some parts of the world, climate change is changing the sources of conflict – the control over a dam or a lake can be more strategic than an oil refinery.

“Climate change is even one the root causes of a new migration phenomenon. Climate refugees will become a new challenge – if we do not act swiftly.”

But the video below shows his ad-libbing on the subject going further.

He says: “We are tackling the root causes of the next migration wave… the climate change problems because tomorrow morning we’ll have climate refugees and we have to know that. We should not be surprised, astonished if the first climate refugees are coming to Europe.

A snip of the speech about climate change refugees:


For those who are gluttons for punishment, link to the whole speech transcribed:

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-15-5614_en.htm

State of the Union 2015: Time for Honesty, Unity and Solidarity

Strasbourg, 9 September 2015

Jean-Claude Juncker
President of the European Commission
 

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Hungarian PM Viktor Orban says people crossing border after Sept. 15 should expect to be arrested - @BBCWorld

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Europe migrant crisis: Hungary 'will arrest illegal migrants'

25 minutes ago

Hungary's PM has warned that people who cross the country's border illegally will be arrested from next week.

Viktor Orban said migrants entering Hungary in their thousands in the past weeks had "rebelled" against his police force, and order had to be restored.

Aid workers have been telling of "abysmal" conditions for refugees at a camp on the Hungarian-Serbian border.

Video footage has emerged of people being thrown bags of food at the camp in the town of Roszke.

Hungary has struggled to cope with some 150,000 migrants that have crossed its borders so far this year, en route from Greece to countries in northern and western Europe.

There have been tensions between the authorities and migrants, at border areas and key railway stations.

Hungary has insisted it is trying to fulfil its obligations as an EU member and register all new arrivals, but its attempts to control the flow - such as building a fence along its border with Serbia and staging border protection exercises - have proved controversial.

But, Mr Orban warned that from 15 September, tougher immigration laws would take effect and anyone crossing the border illegally could expect to be arrested.

He praised the police for doing a "remarkable" job "without force" in the face of unco-operative migrants who, he said, had "rebelled against Hungarian legal order".

More at link:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34224999?ocid=socialflow_twitter
 

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��War has forced half of Syrians from their homes. Here's where they've gone: http://cnn.it/1L6nf46 #Syria #refugees"

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http://edition.cnn.com/2015/09/11/w...displaces-half-a-country/index.html?sr=cnnitw

War has forced half of Syrians from their homes. Here's where they've gone.

By Mark Bixler and Michael Martinez, CNN
Updated 1424 GMT (2124 HKT) September 11, 2015 | Video Source: CNN


Inside the life of Syrian refugees in Lebanon

(CNN)Imagine every man, woman and child leaving home in 29 states, mostly in the U.S. West and Midwest. That's everyone west of Ohio and Kentucky and north of Texas, all the way to California.

The 158 million people in those states make up the same share of the U.S. population -- 49% -- as the proportion of Syrians that have fled carnage there.
The war in Syria is so hellish and unrelenting that more people have left that country than any other in recent years. One of every five displaced persons in the world is Syrian.
Here's a look at where those Syrians have gone.
War has displaced half of all people in Syria

Protests against the government in Syria in 2011 soon devolved into chaotic war. The fighting and later rise of ISIS forced 10.6 million people from home -- about half of Syria's pre-war populat


The refugee crisis ... from the Syrian war to now 01:55



Most have fled to countries near Syria

Most Syrians who have left their homeland registered as refugees with the United Nations. Three-fourths of Syrian refugees did that in Turkey, Lebanon or Jordan.

More of them are going to Europe

The number of Syrians seeking safety in Europe has more than doubled in the past year. Many left Turkey and other countries for Europe to ask for asylum, a status that allows someone to live and work legally in another country.

They're not the only ones

Worldwide, 59.5 million people are on the move as refugees or displaced people within their home countries. That population would be enough to make them citizens of the world's 24th biggest country.
Humanity has never seen such displacement. Ever.
"Wars, conflict and persecution have forced more people than at any other time since records began to flee their homes and seek refuge and safety elsewhere," the United Nations said in June.
At least 15 wars and conflicts are to blame -- in Africa, the Mideast and Asia.

Some destinations are more popular than others

Three out of five Syrians seeking asylum in Europe are in Germany, Sweden or Serbia. Relatively large numbers of Syrians also have sought asylum in Hungary, Austria, Bulgaria, the Netherlands and Denmark.
Among the European countries receiving the fewest asylum requests are Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Slovakia and Iceland.

Hardly any have found refuge in wealthy Gulf states

Gulf states such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait and Bahrain have been criticized for resettling no Syrian refugees despite similarities of language, religion and culture.
6. Other countries need to do more. Shameful that GCC countries are not taking Syrian refugees for example.
— Nadim Houry (@nadimhoury) September 3, 2015
Human rights groups say the Gulf states, their wealth reflected in skyscrapers and upscale shopping malls, have plenty of resources to resettle Syrian refugees. Some in the Gulf states point out that they have contributed tens of millions of dollars in humanitarian relief for displaced Syrians.
The United Arab Emirates, on the other hand, has been welcoming, receiving and extending residency permits to more than 100,000 Syrian nationals since 2011, a UAE government source told CNN.
Read how Persian Gulf neighbors close their doors to refugees


Gulf states offer little support to migrants 02:49



The United States is resettling more Syrian refugees

The United States has resettled 1,500 Syrian refugees since the start of the conflict in 2011, the vast majority of them this year.
That amounts to about 0.03% of Syria's 4.1 million refugees.
Here's a breakdown: 23 in 2011, 41 in 2012, 45 in 2013, 249 in 2014 and 1,199 so far this fiscal year, which ends September 30, according to the State Department.
About 300 more refugees are expected to be admitted by the end of the month, according to U.S. officials.
In the face of growing questions about such small numbers, President Barack Obama ordered his administration to "scale up" the number of Syrian refugees -- at least 10,000 in the next fiscal year.


White House: U.S. to take at least 10,000 more refugees 02:55



CNN's Janette Gagnon, Beth Brettingham, Richard Allen Greene and Aaron Darveniza contributed to this story.
 

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A THIRD OF MIGRANTS TO ITALY REFUSING IDENTIFICATION MEASURES

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ts-to-italy-refusing-identification-measures/

SARKIS ZERONIAN 11 Sep 2015

More than 40,000 migrants who arrived in Italy this year have refused to be identified. Italian police say many choose to remain unknown hoping to move on to other EU member states.

Of the 122,000 migrants who have arrived in Italy so far this year, figures released by the Servizio di Polizia Scientifica (SPS) show only about 81,000 have agreed to be identified. Italy’s ANSA news agency reports that those refusing to undergo identification processes are mainly Eritreans, Somalis and Syrians according to SPS director Daniela Stradiotto. She explained:

“It’s technically impossible to force them to undergo photo and fingerprint identification.”

Identification is an important issue because of EU rules governing asylum applications. The ‘Dublin Convention‘ requires asylum-seeking migrants to identify themselves before applications can be processed.

Although certain aspects of the rule were suspended for Syrians in both Germany and the Czech Republic recently, the Convention demands applications are made in the first EU country migrants reach and that they remain in that country while being processed. As the migrant crisis grows that processing may take over a year to complete.

Rather than keeping to the rules, the Italian figures appear to show that migrants are instead electing to remain unidentified, hoping to move on to other EU member states where they perceive their future will be better.

Stradiotto spoke of how the police want reform, reports The Local, saying:

“Police are looking for new legal powers to hold migrants for 72 hours instead of the current 12 in order to try to force them to undergo identification.”

The importance of identification was reinforced this week with the news from Norway. As reported by Breitbart London, confirming the identity of one of the Kenyan shopping mall gunmen took two years because of false information given when he first entered Norway as a Somali migrant in 1999.
 

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WATCH: MIGRANT TURKS AND KURDS BATTLE ON FRANKFURT STREETS, GERMAN ARMY CALLED IN

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http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...e-on-frankfurt-streets-german-army-called-in/

SIMON KENT 11 Sep 2015

At least five arrests were made in Frankfurt on Thursday night after a march by supporters of Turkish nationalism descended into bloody violence when they clashed with rival Kurd separatists.

Video of the riot has emerged on the same day Germany announced it will place 4,000 soldiers on standby over the weekend to help with a new wave of up to 40,000 refugees arriving in the country.

Police said The Thursday event was billed as a “solidarity march commemorating fallen Turkish soldiers”. According to FR Online to it was organised by the “Federation of Turkish young people” which campaigns on behalf of Turkey. The fracas involved a group of around 380 participant and started at the city’s main railway station at 18.30.

Soon after the Turkish supporters set off there were attacks by immigrant Kurd counter-demonstrators who used sticks, bottles and stones to attack marchers. One taxi driver reportedly had his car damaged in the brawl.

Police confirmed the counter-demonstrators were of Kurdish origin and quickly withdrew.


More than 40,000 people have died since the PKK (Kurdistan Workers’ Party) launched its armed campaign in 1984 calling for an independent Kurdish state within Turkey.

Now immigrants from both sides of that battle are carrying their fight onto the streets of Frankfurt.

Meanwhile, Germany will mobilise 4,000 soldiers in the next 48-hours to help with the entry of up to 40,000 refugees in the country, Defence Minister Ursula von der Leyen said on Friday.

She told Der Spiegel that she was placing the troops on alert with the expectation they could be asked to do more than just welcome the immigrant arrivals.

“The country can be sure that the Bundeswehr [German army] will be supporting” efforts to care for refugees, Von der Leyen said, adding that the army could do yet more if called upon.

“We are spreading these 4,000 soldiers across the country and they will intervene if the federal states [which are responsible for the initial uptake of refugees] request it,” a Defence Ministry spokesman told The Local.

“They will provide a helping hand, for example to set up a refugee camp, to help with organization, provide buses and drivers, other types of transport, medical services and equipment, anything of that kind.”

Record numbers of people from the Middle East and sub-Saharan Africa continue to pour into Europe, with around 7,600 entering Macedonia in the last 12 hours.
 
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