[ENVR] 12.0 Coming? Ecuador Lookout!

rodeorector

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So, what would the direct effect be on the U.S. if such a powerful quake should occur in Equador? Obviously, I can figure out the devastating indirect effects. Would we be able to feel such a quake?
 

Onebyone

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Jed,

Your scripture could be a 12.0 EQ like they are talking about. If the mountains even are gone then there is nowhere you can call a safe area.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
SOMEBODY IS LYING.

Why is there no other report of these "OVER 300 quakes above 4.0 in the last 11 days "???

Such a profoundly unusual phenomena should be the talk of the geophysical community. '

I see very few quakes for that area reported on either Red Puma or USGS.
 

bartp40

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Er...anyone notice....

Ecuador is on the equator...!
 

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lynnie

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I felt pretty sceptical last night reading this.

Then before bed I was reading a mountain climbing book, and was struck by the guy looking at sea creature fossils up about 8,000 meters in the Himalayas.

It happened at least once before......
 

astrogirl

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ainitfunny said:
SOMEBODY IS LYING.

Why is there no other report of these "OVER 300 quakes above 4.0 in the last 11 days "???

Such a profoundly unusual phenomena should be the talk of the geophysical community. '

I see very few quakes for that area reported on either Red Puma or USGS.

Good question. The source Maher quoted is Urban Survival, and I'm pretty sure George Ure uses Red Puma, based on some past stuff he's posted about earthquakes.
 
Hmmm

"I'm one of the believers of sunspot activity = earthquake activity. I found it also eerily strange that no major earthquakes occured during our last visit with 720."




I too believe that solar energy adds to the energy systems of the earth, and that it is all interelated. Our core is also a huge electro magnet. So all those electrons and protons off the sun are having an effect.

Now, sometimes you see what appears to be a direct relationship between very large solar explosions and volcanos and EQ's, usually you don't.

However, anyone following the EQ news over the last 30 days KNOWS that there is massive rumbling and shaking going on all over the place, including over 300 EQs, and some large ones, off the coast of Ecuador alone.

Nicobar likewise has had hundreds, most over 4.5 in size.

So, you don't see any EQ activity? You aren't looking hard enough.
 

Synap

Deceased
For comparison. This was a 7.1 off Ecuador in '98..no tsunami

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Ecuador: Earthquake OCHA-01: 05-Aug-98
Wed, 5 Aug 98 11:28:20 EDT
http://www.cidi.org/disaster/98b/0027.html

ECUADOR - EARTHQUAKE OCHA - GENEVA SITUATION REPORT No.1 5 AUGUST 1998 STRONG EARTHQUAKE HITS THE NE PACIFIC COAST OF ECUADOR Situation 1. According to the United States Geological Survey (USGS), an earthquake with the magnitude of 7.1 on the Richter Scale, hit the NE Pacific coast of Ecuador (10 km NW of Bahia de Caraquez in the Province of Manabi, 335 km west of Quito), on Tuesday, 4 August 1998, at 13h59 (local time), 18h59 GMT. The epicentre was located at latitude 0.47 degrees S, and longitude 80.05 degrees W at a depth of 33.0 km. The main event was preceded by an earthquake of 5.4 on the Richter Scale, which occurred at 12h35 (local time), 17h35 GMT, around the same area. 2. According to the UNDP Office in Ecuador, the potential occurrence of a Tsunami was ruled out by the seismologists of the Geophysical Institute, who are in charge of the Seismic network. However, many persons have began to evacuate coastal areas frightened by that possibility. Area affected 3. The UNDP Office in Ecuador reports that the coastal towns of Bahia de Caraquez (pop. 40,000) and San Vicente are the most affected areas. Other towns in the Province of Manabi, recently devastated by the El Nino phenomenon, registered minor damage. Both events were felt in most of the Ecuadorian territory. Impact 4. According to preliminary reports from Civil Defense, 40 homes and a few buildings have collapsed and a considerable number of buildings register different degrees of damage. Fortunately, no losses in human lives have been reported so far. Electricity has been cut and the telephone service is down. National Response 5. The population have been alerted to the risk of any aftershocks. The Provincial Office of Civil Defense of Manabi is doing a preliminary damage assessment in order to determine needs for humanitarian assistance. 6. The United Nations Disaster Management Team (UN-DMT) and other relief organizations are in the process of collecting information on damage and emergency needs. 7. The Government of Ecuador has not requested international assistance, so far.
 

tsherry

Membership Revoked
RE: Why am I writing that story?

I'm working on a story over in Member Stories, related loosely to earthquakes....

....I have no idea why I've been compelled to write it though. It literally wants to be written.

Interesting.
 

Sharon

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rodeorector said:
So, what would the direct effect be on the U.S. if such a powerful quake should occur in Equador? Obviously, I can figure out the devastating indirect effects. Would we be able to feel such a quake?

My question too...anyone??? Someone mentioned effects up to 5,000 miles, that covers a LOT of ground!
 

ofuzzy1

Just Visiting
1by1 wrote:
If a 12.0 hits modern society would be kicked back a few years at the least I would think. Talk about earth changes if it 12.0 is 200 times a 9.0's power and destruction.

If we have a week - Got Preps folks and a tent included?


You'll need more than a tent, more like a canoe.

We live about 7 miles from the shore.
We're lucky enough to have 'Barrier Condos' and i95 to protect us. :)
I hope that's enough!
 
A 12

WOULD shake the entire world, and it is possible that buildings everywhere could roll and toss.

South America would certainly be devastated, in most parts. I am not projected that a 12 is going to occur, but people who read most of what I post know that I have documented changes in the core and in the wobble of the earth going back over 5 years now.

Maybe nothing huge will happen, but it ain't over till it's over, and it ain't over yet.
 

NC Susan

Deceased
ofuzzy1 said:
1by1 wrote:

We live about 7 miles from the shore.
We're lucky enough to have 'Barrier Condos' and i95 to protect us. :)
I hope that's enough!



Dear Where the Chads Hang (Florida resident):

Just out of curiosity, what was the property value effect of the last hurricane season. What happened to property values, tax values and home insurance?? Did alot of for sale signs go up?? Did alot of NEW construction come in?

For anyone else. If a 12 earthquake hit, would it be a 12 across the whole path of the world or just a 12 in the center and maybe just a 2 five thousand miles away. I notice that California has a gazillion earthquakes a day, but I assume the damage and streangth stay localized to just one or two counties.
Should a 12 hit I dont think anyone inside anything other than a car in the middle of an interstate would survive. Every roof would cave. Every bridge collapse.
 

astrogirl

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dragonslayer2001 said:
"I'm one of the believers of sunspot activity = earthquake activity. I found it also eerily strange that no major earthquakes occured during our last visit with 720."
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So, you don't see any EQ activity? You aren't looking hard enough.

I don't know what's a lot, but here's the last 30 days per USGS. It includes everything over 2.5, and I think the active days for 720 were roughtly the 14th to the 21st.

http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/qed/

So, you can decide for yourselves.
 

NC Susan

Deceased
Freeholdfarm said:
I After I asked her how we could make our home-canned stuff in jars more secure in case of an earthquake!)


Kathleen


Have you thought of a root cellar under the house?? and maybe packing cardboard collars around each jar.
 
David

Anyway, back to the 12.........

Yes, I don't even want to think about what I think has become possible over the last two years.

Core of the earth shifting, bulge of the earth changing, axis tilted, magnetic field collapsing, .............and on ..................and on.................... and on.

It is almost time to buy another case of .................... fill in the blanks......... cause I don't want to sound alarmist, but my gut really has been telling me for some time that it really is "just" beginning and that things will just get worse from here on out.

And yes, a 12 could cause a big bug out, cause it would change the face of the earth. And forget about oil.
 
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Kimber

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More Equador News

February 1, 2005
The Star — Malaysia


QUITO, Ecuador (AP) - The hundreds of tremors that have shaken Ecuador's coast in the past 11 days may presage a major earthquake in the region, but the danger of a massive tsunami is negligible, a geophysicist said Monday.

Since Jan. 20 there have been 317 earthquakes measuring between magnitude 4 and magnitude 6 off the coast of Ecuador.

Hugo Yepez, director of the Geophysical Insitute, said the cluster of quakes is an anomaly and indicates a buildup of energy from the Nazca plate, which is pushing under the South America plate off the western coast of the continent.

Yepez said it was impossible to predict where or when a major quake might occur.

In an interview with Channel 4 television, he described the zone where the earthquakes are occurring as "a small fuse that is faced with an overload.''

"But we cannot predict how this is going to end.'' Despite the possiblity of a large quake, Yepez said the geography of the coast does not allow the formation of tsunamis similar to the one that struck the Indian Ocean in December.

The earthquakes have prompted fears among residents that a major disaster is about to occur.

After a magnitude-6 quake shook the country last week, television news broadcast scenes of people sleeping in public parks and streets with others fleeing to higher ground.

Major temblors occur in the region on average twice each century although it is impossible to predict exactly when or how strong the next one will be, Yepez said.

In 1942 a quake of magnitude 8 struck the area, and one of nearly magnitude 9 occurred in 1906, but neither caused a tsunami, he said.

An earthquake of magnitude 8 is capable of tremendous damage.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2005/2/1/latest/21074Tremorsof&sec=latest

See also http://www.***********.com/News.alert/05_Cosmic/050202.Ecuador.EQs.html

Note: Steve's link has some additional information on the above story, including a table of quakes based on the strength.

David
 

Lone Eagle Woman

Veteran Member
Guess this Mother Earth has just had enough as concerning us Pesky
Human Two Leggeds who refuse to live in Balance and Harmony.

After some of these Mega - Quakes and Volcanoes , floods, more Mega -
Tsunamis and such. Things then would be mighty interesting.

Creator Bless!
 

Freeholdfarm

Inactive
NC Susan said:
Have you thought of a root cellar under the house?? and maybe packing cardboard collars around each jar.
A root cellar under the house is out of the question, unfortunately, as this is a manufactured home. It's on a foundation (and one of these days I'm going to have to crawl underneath and make sure it's fastened to the foundation like they said it would be), but it's basically a crawl space. No room to dig anything out, and terrible access. I'd like to build an above-ground root cellar in the yard, though.

I think the best thing would be cardboard around each jar, and the jars packed in boxes and sitting on the floor -- we are just so short on floor space. Grandma didn't seem too concerned about the jars of food when I talked to her about it, which is why I was surprised to see her going through her BOB later.

Kathleen
 

shane

Has No Life - Lives on TB
With over 100 nuke plants here in the USA, as well as other plants around the world, we might even have problems with radioactive releases, if things really got shook up and/or submerged. Another reason, IMO, to grab a free copy of the "What To Do If..." guide linked below. It's focused on surviving nuke weapon explosions, but the suggested preps, and urgency to acquire and implement them for your own family before a wider panic makes that impossible, are still applicable.

- Shane
 

Barbee

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Is there a maximum magnitude ?

Is there a maximum magnitude for an earthquake?

Though theoretically there is no mathematical limit with the magnitude calculation, physically there is a limit. The magnitude is connected to the surface area of the blocks of rock which rub and in doing so give rise to seismic waves. Since the tectonic plates have finite dimensions, the magnitude must therefore also reach a maximum. It is believed that the greatest earthquakes can reach magnitude 9.5, which corresponds to the magnitude of the Chilean earthquake described above.
 

NVBadBoy

Senior Member
The main factor determining the energy released by a temblor is the length of the fault that slips during the quake. During the largest quake ever--a magnitude-9.5 quake that reeked Chile on May 22, 1960--a 1,600-kilometer-long stretch of fault ruptured. A magnitude-10.5 quake, which would release about 32 times the energy of the Chilean temblor, could occur only during the rupture of a fault zone that stretches a quarter of the way around Earth. No fault zone is that long.

Although earthquakes can produce cracks in the ground, fault zones never split open. The sides of a fault zone are in constant contact.


NVBadBoy
 

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Connections?

DS..You posted this over in UNEX.
It seems to tie right in with this thread?

Military activity has increased to a level not seen in decades and many high level military officials have been leaving our region by aircraft bound for the great underground city beneath Yamantau Gora Mountain it is also being reported. Much frantic activity is also being seen with many thousands of animals migrating towards the interior spaces between our mountains and leaving costal areas with much speed.

Strange news has also been received from the United States that a mistake in their Emergency Broadcasting System signaled an evacuation of one of their Eastern coastal regions, Connecticut.

We can see in this news report where it is said, “State emergency management officials said a worker entered the wrong code during the weekly test of the emergency alert system, leading television viewers and radio listeners to believe that the state was being evacuated. “ Civil authorities have issued an immediate evacuation order for all of Connecticut, beginning at 2:10 p.m. and ending at 3:10 p.m.," a message that scrolled across television screens read."

Though being dismissed by many Americans as a mistaken order this message does provide a notice that the American authorities are also aware of impending events and are themselves in preparation for the massive evacuations of their costal residents.
The artice is refering to extreme weather conditions but to me, it seems it would tie in more with a seismic event of some sort. Especially the part about the animals behavior, in light of the many reports of animals fleeing inland prior to the 12/26 Earthquake.

Don't know about you but I'm starting to see dots popping up all over the place about this. Or maybe I'm just :screw:
 

Kimber

Membership Revoked
Maher,

Beats me. I just found out that my UNEX posts wound up on main forum. :lol:

David
 
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weziman

Contributing Member
I'd like to follow up on that as well:

http://www.volcanolive.com/magnitude2.html

'There is no beginning nor end to this scale. However, rock mechanics seems to preclude earthquakes smaller than about -1 or larger than about 9.5.'

So I'm expecting that quakes >10 would be most likely from supernatural origins.
 

Badfoil

Inactive
Sorry for the confusion.....

Kimber said:
Maher,

Beats me. I just found out that my UNEX posts wound up on main forum. :lol:

Stuff like this, I like to keep behind closed doors.

David


Sorry for the confusion everyone. I asked a Mod. to merge my thread on UNEX into Maher's on the main form since there were many replies on both. Might as well keep them all together.

Janice
 

Maher

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Shouldn't I have had some say in the merge? And, why was your thread in UNEX in the first place? By the way, it's not my thread anymore it's yours. Congratulations! I'll just go find someplace else to lurk.
 

Onebyone

Inactive
Maher,

I hate to see you upset; I wish you wouldn't be. I saw your thread first and you brought the news to more people as most don't go to the unexplained so thanks for letting us know. However, the thread in unexplained was posted before yours so it is just the rules of the forum the first thread stays as first poster. Please don't just lurk as we like to hear from you; you have good stuff even if it is scary as $#%.
 

Mail Lady

Inactive
dragonslayer2001 said:
"I'm one of the believers of sunspot activity = earthquake activity. I found it also eerily strange that no major earthquakes occured during our last visit with 720."




I too believe that solar energy adds to the energy systems of the earth, and that it is all interelated. Our core is also a huge electro magnet. So all those electrons and protons off the sun are having an effect.

Now, sometimes you see what appears to be a direct relationship between very large solar explosions and volcanos and EQ's, usually you don't.

However, anyone following the EQ news over the last 30 days KNOWS that there is massive rumbling and shaking going on all over the place, including over 300 EQs, and some large ones, off the coast of Ecuador alone.

Nicobar likewise has had hundreds, most over 4.5 in size.

So, you don't see any EQ activity? You aren't looking hard enough.

If that comment was directed my way, you weren't looking hard enough at my post. I said "no major earthquakes"... as in magnitude.... big difference in my book.
 

JohnGaltfla

#NeverTrump
Kimber said:
"But we cannot predict how this is going to end.'' Despite the possiblity of a large quake, Yepez said the geography of the coast does not allow the formation of tsunamis similar to the one that struck the Indian Ocean in December.

Yes, but if a 12.0 hit off the coast of Ecuador, does the geography of the Panama Canal Zone allow the formation of tsunamis????? :shkr:
 

Freeholdfarm

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Vere My Sone said:
Kathleen,
I'm just so surprised to hear of a Grandma having a bob bag
Grandma has always believed in being prepared. She and Grandad lived for quite a few years in Alaska, and they always kept some basic stuff in the car -- you have to up there, especially if you are going away from the towns, as they often did. Also, she was in Valdez during the big Alaska earthquake. Valdez lost I think around sixty people. And when the earthquake hit, Grandma was at work in the state mental hospital, and had to grab a wheelchair patient and hold on to her with one arm and a structural column with the other arm because the patient was rolling from one side of the dining room to the other. When the rocking was over, Grandma and other employees loaded patients into their personal vehicles and went to higher ground, because they were afraid there'd be a tsunami (there was -- that was what killed most of the people who died there) and didn't know how high it would reach. Then the patients all had to be evacuated to Anchorage, because the building was so badly damaged there wasn't any place to put them. So Grandma has been through a scary one. She also was married and raising children during the Depression, and has lived through WWI and WWII (here in this country), though she was too young to remember much of WWI. So she's been around long enough to KNOW that bad things happen, and it's smarter to be prepared. Just wish I could convince her that we need a woodstove in the house! :p

Kathleen
 

NC Susan

Deceased
Look what I just found...........and signwatcher is on the frontpage posting ten feet of snow in Japan, and hurricane in Austrailia.

If ANYBODY can explain these pics Id be happy to hear about it..........!

http://satellite.ehabich.info/index5.html
 

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snowmiser

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major quake epicenters, major volcano activity, positions of the Hubble and the ISS and the rotation of the earth as shown by the "movement" of dawn/dusk across our face... all displayed on pretty 2D images of the Earth.

or were you asking for something else?


EDIT: oops, forgot to mention cloud cover and weather systems.
 
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Plantlady

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BTW, from Stan Deyo's site:

Feb. 3, 2005
NCODA data unavailable from the Navy's FNMOC site

Feb. 2, 2005
NCODA data unavailable from the Navy's FNMOC site


I wonder what's up with that? Makes me feel a bit uncomfortable... :shkr:
 
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