[ENVR] 12.0 Coming? Ecuador Lookout!

Badfoil

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12.0 Coming? Ecuador Lookout!

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12.0 Coming? Ecuador Lookout!

The phone rang a few minutes ago and Steve Quayle was on the line. "George - You have got to see this story out of Ecuador! There's a press report that more than 300 earthquakes of magnitude 4 have happens in the past 11 days!. I'm sending you the link."

About 12 seconds later: LINK arrived.\

Steve then sent along a link to an Ecuadorian seismology site where bulletin #36 is posted at this LINK and translates roughly as:

"Up to the moment 333 earthquakes have been assessed with magnitudes equal or bigger than 4.0 grades. In the figure 1 shows himself so much the average number of seismic events and his magnitudes I mediate using windows of 25 events. In the last 24 hours an increase is observed both in the magnitude and in the average of the number of events (it figures 1), which can be interpreted as the continuity of the activity, since to indicate that the same one diminishes it would be necessary to observe a decrease in both parameters: magnitude and number of earthquakes."

"In the figure 2 shows himself the distribution of the number of events and his magnitudes using an interval of classes for his magnitudes of 0.2 grades and taking as the axis of the abscissas the top rim of the limit of classes. Since one can notice in the figure 2, the majority of events possess magnitudes about 4.3 grade (126 event seismic) and 23 % of events has presented magnitudes major than 4.5 grades (77 seismic events), the same ones that in the main have been strongly senses in several cities opposite to the End of the St Lawrence and the Saint's Peninsula Elena."

Then we chatted about what it means. First, it substantiates the viewpoint that I expressed over the past couple of weeks (see Past Issue). Second, there's more going on off the coast of Ecuador than is being picked up and reported. Thirdly, and based on an hour or so of number crunching I did yesterday, I expect the reported quake levels will rise from their present period of quiescence to sizeable levels in about a week's time.

Does this means another mega quake? Maybe, but the odds are too hard to calculate (I'm an MBA - not a trained geologist). Nevertheless, the trend of increasing quakes over time is apparent in the U.S.G.S. numbers when you back out "no magnitude events" and the reality of continuing tectonic movement around the Pacific Ring of Fire can not be denied. The question is not if this causes some impact on the U.S. mainland down the road, but rather when. There seems to be a 9 and 15-day cycle in quakes, so if the pattern I'm watching is real, look for big shaker news out 5-9 days from today.

More volcanoes have popped off in the last week than have popped off in all of 2004. The single volcano in New Guinea released more sulfuric and carbon dioxide (not steam) gases than all the volcanoes of 2004. The release was so big according to Russian sources that it disturbed the upper atmosphere.

Although we can’t reveal the actual contents of the www.halfpasthuman.com web bot run which is just wrapping up, we can report that the number of languages in which people discussed “noises coming from deep within the earth” was 28 and in the next day’s data gathering, the number of languages discussing noise from the earth had jumped to 36 – and this is from a sample of 9-million reads.

Separate from the Russian backchannel and the web bot runs, the bot spiders have found 422 earthquake discussion forums. The volume of discussion going on these sites is noticeably up just since Friday of last week such that the amount of posts being made has doubled since last Friday. This is to the point that people who are “regulars” are remarking on the amount of data beginning to pour in.

One other thing from the Russian sources (a geologist who works for the Dhumma) He says if you look at the disposition of the quakes from the Nicobar Islands and over to the Ecuador area, the Nicobar quakes are marginally above the equator while the Ecuador quakes are marginally below. If you then juxtapose the write ups about the quakes, he’s afraid we may actually see a plate shift involving the Pacific Plate. He believes the Indo-Australian plate has either fractured or is in process.

All the quakes since the Cayman Islands quake of 6.8 in December seem to be pointing to a major movement of the Pacific plate. The timeline? No one knows, but the Russian thinks we could be within 90-120 days. His fear is that if the Indo-Australian quake was a 9 (9.2), the possible pending move of the Pacific plate would be a 12.

One of the Russian’s concerns is that if there is an event of this size in the Pacific, and the plate moves, a 12.0 near Ecuador, buildings in Europe and even Moscow would collapse.

We’ve picked up some reports in one of the Hindustani papers that people who live in the Nicobar Islands are reporting “groaning from the earth” such that people can’t sleep.

Now, flash back 12,000 years and you’ll find that the Chaldeans left Western Indian for what is now the Middle East because of quakes that made living in the area unthinkable. Could it be that history is repeating itself here? Ask me in a couple of months. Or, if we really have a 12 event, ask anyone else who survives.

One last thing: The bots noted a week or two back that Chandler's wobble is off in the latest results - and we're outside of historic means. This means the earth's spin has changed...
 
Personally

"One last thing: The bots noted a week or two back that Chandler's wobble is off in the latest results - and we're outside of historic means"

I've sent Ure stuff, and the guy at halfpasthuman, that Ure seemed to publish, with nary a nod in my direction,

then I asked halfpast to be able to post his stuff, with full credit, and full links, as always,

and I got back the rudest snarckest email from halfpast from an ego maniac, and that was the last helpful hints and info I ever sent to Ure, or will.

so the chandlers stuff kinda cracks me up, as Ure is a member here, and I posted the Chandler wobble being off over two months ago now.

Now George, if you are reading this, you should give some credit where credit is due.

That is what messed Hoagland up. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Kimber

Membership Revoked
Didn't know that Ure was a member here.

Sorry DS, but I love his column. He even picked up the Robert Felix angle on things a week or so ago.

Oh, and George, play nice with DS. DS gets riled easily. :lol:

I will say, getting back to the above post, that a 12 would be 1,000 times more powerful than the Indonesian quake. For reference, the New Madrid 1811 quake was about an 8.0 on the old Richter scale.

If a 12 hits anywhere, it's bug out bag time.

David
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
OMG!!!!! This fits in with our "rumblings" thread! This seems to be talking about the whole Pacific plate.

:eek: :shkr:
 

cmm

Veteran Member
Maher:

Can't believe there are no replies to this article!

Given all the news these days re strange weather, earthquakes, etc. I thought some of the board members would have provided some informative feedback on this VERY interesting and thought-provoking article.

Keep up the good work, Maher.
 

hillbilly

Membership Revoked
thanks maher just listen to steve talk about it
don't sound good folks
go look at the picture on steves site
http://www.***********.com/index1.html
 

Rex Jackson

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Well, I have been trying to figure if I should post this or not but now I guess I will. Look at Mt. Rainer. These events are picked up on all 3 rainer stations.

http://www.pnsn.org/WEBICORDER/VOLC/RCM_SHZ_UW.2005020112.html

St. Helens grows stronger every day heading back toward the October intensity. The intensity of events at St. Helens >stopped< the same day the Tsunami event occured. St. Helens events not only picked up in frequency but are now lasting 1 min. long each.

http://www.pnsn.org/WEBICORDER/VOLC/BLIS_SHZ_CV.2005020112.html
http://www.pnsn.org/WEBICORDER/VOLC/YEL_SHZ_UW.2005020112.html
http://www.pnsn.org/WEBICORDER/VOLC/SHW_SHZ_UW.2005020112.html

PNW Volcanoes
http://www.pnsn.org/WEBICORDER/VOLC/welcome.html

Madison River at Yellowstone seemed to quiet down a bit from the other day but a few hours ago had a few small EQs ...

http://www.seis.utah.edu/helicorder/heli/yellowstone/Uuss.YMR_SHZ_WY.2005020100.gif

Indonesia/Sumatra had another 4 to 5 - 5.0 to 5.6 eqs today as well.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Maps/region/Asia.html

I got an email the other day from a friend saying that the most EQs he seen on the USGS global map was 346. It happened a few months ago. Today we have 280 which is the largest I have seen.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/

Busy day....again.
 

ltd

Higher Ground
Maher,

OMG, I thought this was a plug for a new AOL upgrade! Shoot, I'm still runnin' 7.0 and hate the crap on that version. :shr:
 

Synap

Deceased
The tsunami from a 12EQ off the coast of Equador would likely take out most of the due west Pacific islands including HI. Likely most of the East Asian/RU shoreline and amplified over the Marianas Trench, do in the South Pacific island countries all the way to Australia too.

Correct me if I recall incorrectly, but IIRC the shore rapid dropoff of that part of south america would act like a shaped-charge, directing all of the EQ/tsunami energy westward.
 

rhughe13

Heart of Dixie
I've always wondered what would happen if my prep home got relocated a few miles away by some serious land movement. Should I survive of course.
 

JohnGaltfla

#NeverTrump
Pardon my ignorance of this subject, but wouldn't a 12.0 magnitude eq that close to the Panama Canal potentially damage it to the point where it would or could be unusable for more than a year? You're talking a biblical event, one which will cause massive instability in the entire Western U.S. and a new flood of illegals, this time as actual refugees, marching north to escape the devestation.

In other words, TEOTWAWKI. Please let me know if I'm off base with this speculation....the economic consequences of such an event are frightening. :shkr: :shkr: :shkr:
 

Sharon

Inactive
It's late. I'm tired. My nerves are terribly on edge (physical thing I think, not sure why, emotionally life is wonderful) going home (excited) to Michigan middle of February. Then I read this. :shk: Surely I'm missing something. Must be more tired than I thought.

I'm waiting for someone to let me in on the joke. This isn't for real....is it? If so, how soon, anyone?

OK, stop laughing. I took this for real...like I said, I'm tired. Someone, please, let me know this isn't for real.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
"One of the Russian’s concerns is that if there is an event of this size in the Pacific, and the plate moves, a 12.0 near Ecuador, buildings in Europe and even Moscow would collapse.
"

and presumably all the buildings in between Ecuador and Europe as well...

i think that i would feel safer in a tent during a 12.0 quake than any building.

for a comparison, the Great Earthquake in Alaska in 1964 : "...reported Richter magnitudes (Ms) for this earthquake ranged from 8.4 to 8.6. The moment magnitude (Mw) is reported as 9.2. The depth, or point where the rupture began was about 14 miles within the earth's crust.

The strong ground motion reported in the Anchorage area lasted about 4-5 minutes which triggered many avalanches and landslides - some being tsunamigenic. Ground deformations were extensive with some areas east of Kodiak being raised by 30 feet and areas about Portage being dropped by 8 feet (Pflaker, 1964). The rise is estimated to come in two thrusts of about 5 meters each. The maximum intensity reported was XI on the modified Mercalli Intensity scale, indicating major structural damage, and ground fissures and failures. This scale is a 12-point one usually given in roman numerals ranging from I, (not felt/no damage) to XII (total destruction many lives lost). From this event, significant damage covered an area of about 50,000 square miles. Intensities of IV-V (felt by most people/minor damage) were reported as far away as Cold Bay, Bethel, McGrath, Kotzebue, Deadhorse, Ft. Yukon, Eagle and Skagway.
http://www.wcatwc.gov/64quake.htm
 

ShiningBear

Contributing Member
Jan. 31, 2005
USA TODAY

http://www.***********.com/News.alert/05_Cosmic/05_Cosmic_pics/050201.Mt.Spurr.jpgPhoto: Heat emissions created a "melt hole" in the ice near the summit of Mount Spurr, seen in this August 2, 2004 photo. (Chris Waythomas)

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (Reuters) -- One Alaska volcano has been emitting small bursts of ash for three weeks and another is being shaken by tremors, indicating that eruptions are possible at both within weeks, seismologists said Monday.

Mount Veniaminof on the Alaska Peninsula began spitting out ash earlier this month, and the volcano could be on the verge of a larger blowout, according to the federal-state Alaska Volcano Observatory.

The Federal Aviation Administration has imposed flight restrictions over the 7,073-foot volcano located 480 miles southwest of Anchorage. No ash had fallen Monday on the closest community, Perryville, home to 110 people and located 22 miles to the south.

"This volcano tends to have a lot of this low-level activity and what it's doing right now is not out of the ordinary, even though it's erupting," said John Eichelberger of the University of Alaska Fairbanks Geophysical Institute and Alaska Volcano Observatory.

But he added: "A large eruption combined with the wind going in action would have a severe effect on Perryville."

Veniaminof is one of the biggest and most active volcanoes in the Aleutian Arc and has erupted 12 times in the past 200 years, according to the observatory. It had minor ash-producing explosions, similar to the current episode, in 2002 and 2004, the observatory said.

The other stirring volcano is Mount Spurr, an 11,070-foot peak about 80 miles west of Anchorage.

Small earthquakes beneath Spurr began last summer have intensified over the last week or so, Eichelberger said. The activity has included an emission of heat that has created a lake from some of the snow and ice near the summit, he said.

Spurr last erupted in 1992, but that and other recorded eruptions came from a cone on the south flank of the mountain, slightly below the summit. The current activity is directly beneath the summit, which has not erupted for 5,000 years, according to the Alaska Volcano Observatory.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/01/31/alaska.volcanoes.reut/index.html

A micro earthquake occurred at 02:02:07 (UTC) on Wednesday, February 2, 2005. The magnitude 2.7 event has been located in CENTRAL ALASKA. (This is a computer-generated message -- this event has not yet been reviewed by a seismologist.)
 

lynnie

Membership Revoked
According to "On Shakey Ground", the land east of the Mississippi river would feel a New Madrid (St Louis) earthquake a couple thousand miles away, but the exact same earthquake on the San Andreas might only be felt a few hundred miles away in Cali. It has to do with the rock stratas.

The tidal wave from a 12 is a given. But buildings shaking would vary tremendously depending on where you live and the deeper rock stratas.
 

Freeholdfarm

Inactive
I hope they are wrong, but IF we did have a 12, more or less as a result of the action of the the 9 in the Indian Ocean, what would we then have as a result of the 12?? (Grandma was going over the stuff in her BOB yesterday morning, by the way! After I asked her how we could make our home-canned stuff in jars more secure in case of an earthquake!)


Kathleen
 

cin

Inactive
If we are all going to die, I hope it will be AFTER we eat the fresh biscuits that are in the oven. :D
 

Reader

Veteran Member
There was a post on the main board that said there would be an influx of refugees from south of the border into the US if such a quake hit. That, the poster said, would be TEOTWAWKI.
 

notred

Inactive
A TWELVE! I thought ten was about as big as it gets, or could get.

Not certain this is very creadible. We are talking the kind of action and energy that pushed up the Rocky Mountains in a 12. The kind of energy release that would make continents rise...or disappear.
 

rhino8

Membership Revoked
A 12 is over 200,000 times as much energy as a 9.0

The richter scale is logorithmic but not on base 10.

It's based on 60.

So a 12 on the richter scall is 60 ^ (12-9) = 216,000 times more energy.

I think a 12 would send 500 ft tsuami waves in all directions for 5000+ miles.

Hope we don't get a 12 anywhere in the world
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
"getting back to the above post, that a 12 would be 1,000 times more powerful than the Indonesian quake"

at least.

brings to mind a certain prophetic remark :

" 17 The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and out of the temple came a loud voice from the throne, saying, “It is done!”

18 Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. No earthquake like it has ever occurred since man has been on earth, so tremendous was the quake.

19 The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath.

20 Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found.

21 From the sky huge hailstones of about a hundred pounds each fell upon men. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible. [Rev 16]
 

Mail Lady

Inactive
Maybe someone who has been watching the sun on a regular basis could give me some input here.... but I find this latest solar flux eerily calm. Seems like it's been a long time since the sun was this quiet.

On the other hand, here's our old friend, sunspot 720 which caused a big raucous a couple weeks ago... on the other side of the sun.

I'm one of the believers of sunspot activity = earthquake activity. I found it also eerily strange that no major earthquakes occured during our last visit with 720.
 

Avatar

Human test subject #58652
The Richter Scale has no upper limit.

But...

Because of the logarithmic basis of the scale, each whole number increase in magnitude represents a tenfold increase in measured amplitude; as an estimate of energy, each whole number step in the magnitude scale corresponds to the release of about 31 times more energy than the amount associated with the preceding whole number value.
USGS

<edited to add> FWIW The largest recorded earthquake in the world was a magnitude 9.5 (Mw) in Chile on May 22, 1960
 

TIK

Inactive
Mail Lady said:
I'm one of the believers of sunspot activity = earthquake activity. I found it also eerily strange that no major earthquakes occured during our last visit with 720.
I'm sorry--not making fun or doubting you, but I'm confused. You say sunspot activity equals eq activity, but then you said it was quiet the last time 720 was facing us?? Is that right? So--do you mean that you DON'T believe sunspot activity equals EQ activity?

:shr:
 

Maher

Inactive
Expected Earthquake, Volcanic or Storm Activity

These images are large - sorry!

http://standeyo.com/Reports/041222.EQ.warning/050201.Deyo.EQs.html

Expected Earthquake, Volcanic or Storm Activity for the Next 1-5 Days

Are YOU Prepared?

February 1, 2005
By Stan Deyo,
http://standeyo.com

Major areas of interest: the Juan de Fuca plate and eastward is still the biggest concern today which includes Mt. St. Helens and Mt. Rainier. Despite recent information to the contrary, Mt. St. Helens IS rumbling and pressure continues to build. There appears to be increased rumbling at Crater Lake in Oregon. The southeast coast of South America appears to have quake activity building in two places. Panama and Ecuador are still in stress (in spite of the fact that the USGS has failed to report over 300 earthquakes [4.0+] in this region over the last 12 days.) New Zealand can also look for more activity in the Wellington area.

I strongly advise watching the Pacific Northwest for increased seismic activity for the next five days.

Stan's analysis shows areas of possible earthquake or volcanic activity, or extreme storm conditions for the next 1 to 5 days. Pay particular attention to areas marked by white circles. The continuous yellow line denotes plate tectonic boundaries as well as the Ring of Fire. Click here for raw data of NCODA map. Raw data show the bright blue and bright yellow spots much more clearly.

Disclaimer: Some of the forecast stress areas can be in error about 30% of the time due to cloud cover interference and false signals from buoys.

<center><img src="http://standeyo.com/Reports/041222.EQ.warning/EQ_pics/050201.NCODA.jpg"></center>

<center><img src="http://standeyo.com/Reports/041222.EQ.warning/EQ_pics/050201.NCODA.raw.jpg"></center>
 

Mail Lady

Inactive
TIK said:
I'm sorry--not making fun or doubting you, but I'm confused. You say sunspot activity equals eq activity, but then you said it was quiet the last time 720 was facing us?? Is that right? So--do you mean that you DON'T believe sunspot activity equals EQ activity?

:shr:

That's okay, TIK, to be :confused: ; I'm always in that state. :vik:

I've always felt there was a relationship between the sun activity and earth movement... just thought it was strange that there were no large earthquakes during the last 720 visit (although there has been an increase in volcanic activity). The sun was pretty volatile then.... yet nothing happened. Are the plates building pressure???..... and just waiting for some other force to push them to the point of shifting big time??? I dunno.... no one really does. When 720 rolls around to face us again (it's still very large).... will things rock then?? Is this the quiet before the storm?? Could be............ or not.
 

newsnut

Contributing Member
Just my gut, not mocking or making fun but. . . not gonna happen. Don't know why, but, not gonna happen.
 

newsnut

Contributing Member
Again, not mocking, not making fun, but how does this add up to 12 on the Richter scale? Again not trying to cause any trouble. :shr:
 

Maher

Inactive
Read the article...
One other thing from the Russian sources (a geologist who works for the Dhumma) He says if you look at the disposition of the quakes from the Nicobar Islands and over to the Ecuador area, the Nicobar quakes are marginally above the equator while the Ecuador quakes are marginally below. If you then juxtapose the write ups about the quakes, he’s afraid we may actually see a plate shift involving the Pacific Plate. He believes the Indo-Australian plate has either fractured or is in process.

All the quakes since the Cayman Islands quake of 6.8 in December seem to be pointing to a major movement of the Pacific plate. The timeline? No one knows, but the Russian thinks we could be within 90-120 days. His fear is that if the Indo-Australian quake was a 9 (9.2), the possible pending move of the Pacific plate would be a 12.

One of the Russian’s concerns is that if there is an event of this size in the Pacific, and the plate moves, a 12.0 near Ecuador, buildings in Europe and even Moscow would collapse.
It's not necessarily a given - just a possibility.
 

newsnut

Contributing Member
Thanks Maher. Kind of a mirror effect theory of sorts? Again just asking. Sorry for the extra caution. Just never know who you might piss off. Your quote makes it a little more clear.
 

RAT

Inactive
Crucial/Critically Urgent!
Message via Louise Starr Tomkiel, V+J
January 31, 2005- -9:15 A.M.
Feast of St. John Bosco!

Louise began to receive a message from Jesus and said, "Jesus, please cover me with Your Most Precious Blood."


Then Jesus spoke, "The current activity under the Indian Ocean is spreading to the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. All are united, each is one with the other.

The earth as a continent is also joined under the seas. Many islands were formed from volcanic ash and mountains everywhere are hiding volcanoes. All are potentially active.

Because of the activity under the earth's surface the land is shifting thus preparing the time for great eruptions and quakes. This is also loosening gigantic icebergs. The earth's temperature is rising therefore melting these potentially dangerous formations.

Now too, fires will occur everywhere from molten lava, broken gas and oil lines. Electric cables will fall also causing fires and the earth will lie in complete darkness and bitter cold.

Today God is warning His people, asking all to convert, to love, to obey. With each passing day God's Mighty Arm falls closer to earth and He WILL purge, He WILL cleanse, He WILL annihilate, He WILL judge.

What fools people are - -all of humanity- -to not heed His warnings and accept His great Mercy, Grace and Love. What fools you are to invite God's wrath and judgment to fall upon you, your families, the entire world.

Daily sin worsens and is out of control. Without repentance (sincere, heartfelt) many souls WILL be in Hell eternally! You, by your freewill, choose your life for eternity. You, NOT God, condemn your soul!

Hell IS real and every day many, many souls condemn themselves there for they were to proud, to stubborn to humble themselves and repent.

The warnings are everywhere. See them! Accept them! Now, today, change! Come to your Master, your Lord, God, Redeemer and Savior. Listen to Me! Obey Me! Accept My love for you. Those who continue to ignore Me, turn from Me are inviting doom into their lives on earth and eternal death to consume their souls,

I call to you! Heaven calls to you! Answer, return before it is too late and your fate is sealed forever.

Amen, amen dear children- -the day, the hour is upon you. Wake up and grasp the hand of your One True God for soon the entire earth will shake, water will consume, fire will burn and the earth will split. I WILL DESTROY!"

:shkr:
 

Maher

Inactive
RAT - I don't mean to be disrespectful, but if you want to have a religious discussion about this subject, you should start another thread.
 

TIK

Inactive
Maher said:
RAT - I don't mean to be disrespectful, but if you want to have a religious discussion about this subject, you should start another thread.
I'll have to agree with you...but first, I'm going to have to stop hyperventilating from the dire "annihilate" warnings. Holy Jeezo Pete! Tomkiel must be thinking, "Boy, God is pissed, and He's had to up to here!!"
 

Onebyone

Inactive
Well geeesh maybe I should have waited to read this thread in the morning.

If a 12.0 hits modern society would be kicked back a few years at the least I would think. Talk about earth changes if it 12.0 is 200 times a 9.0's power and destruction.

If we have a week - Got Preps folks and a tent included?
 

NC Susan

Deceased
If the Uwharrie are the most ancient mountains on the planet (we now know them as the foot hills to the Appalachian - which are also old, worn and round tops with trees and water) and the Himmalayas are the newest - cruel, tall, and jagged, and dry, then a 12 eathquake would birth another set of mountains somewhere. Maybe the middle of the Pacific??

Hawaii could become larger than Austrailia???



http://ncnatural.com/NCUSFS/Uwharrie/

According to geologists, the Uwharrie mountains are remnants of a chain of islands crushed between the collission of the North American and the African continental plates. They may be the oldest mountains in the US, but are greatly eroded to their present height of approx.1000 ft.

The trails of the Uwharrie National Forest are very popular with mountain bikers. The forest is also popular with hunters and fishermen.
 
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