A bit harsh, no? A person who is actually working (stocking shelves), and is the ONLY employee on shift..is now a sloth. Really?
ECON Entire Dollar General Store Closes After Staff Quits Over Lousy Pay
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West
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The dollar type stores are the direct replacement for the small ma and pa shops that we once had across our once great nation.
Why did the ma and pa shops go away? Because of mandated payroll liabilities and liabilities in general.
If any one on this thread wants me to explain I will. But it all has to do with mandated payroll liabilities and liabilities in general, the ma and pa stores can't compete with the giant corps who get discounted liabilities because they are so large and many can afford to self insure.
Thank the lawyers who become politicians.
Why did the ma and pa shops go away? Because of mandated payroll liabilities and liabilities in general.
If any one on this thread wants me to explain I will. But it all has to do with mandated payroll liabilities and liabilities in general, the ma and pa stores can't compete with the giant corps who get discounted liabilities because they are so large and many can afford to self insure.
Thank the lawyers who become politicians.
Mea Culpa.
It did come across as harsh.
I'm never never rude or unkind to the worker. I leave being mad at the "system". Probably mad at myself for stopping there too, if I was honest.
Thanks for the valid question.
There is an independent convenience store within 1/4 mile of our local DG. 2 Brothers own it. They refereed ball games for our area years ago. Should be shopping there unless no other option.
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
I believe these jobs are horrible ( I have worked them ) so that you have an incentive to move on to better things.
Border Collie Dad
Flat Earther
Faroe, the OP isn't about working conditions.
I'm sure they suck and my point was about wage complaints.
My area isn't ghetto and we have 6 within 10-12 miles.
We're rural.
I'm sure they suck and my point was about wage complaints.
My area isn't ghetto and we have 6 within 10-12 miles.
We're rural.
Border Collie Dad
Flat Earther
I enjoyed going to Radio Shack when I needed some kind of electronic doo-dad and some people were there for years.
Imagine working conditions were a few steps above DG.
rob0126
Veteran Member
I cant agree and heres why:
Yes, its a simple job but being treated like dirt is not part of the contract.
Also, when they require you to work 'anytime', they have taken All of your available extra time to make more of a living with side jobs.
If you require to take up all of my time then compensate for it.
This same principal applies to truck driving.
Management cant mouth off the same old canned response of lazy unloyal workers anymore.
Loyalty works both ways.
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kyrsyan
Has No Life - Lives on TB
DG is not a good company to work for. Friend applied hoping to get a job closer to her home. She got offered a job at one 45 minutes. The manager had cold quit and the store was a disaster. She was expected to put it all to rights, hire new people, and be available at all hours, even on holidays, for 10.50/hr. (Which also meant she would be running store, top to bottom, by herself until new employees were found.)
I rarely tell people to pass jobs by. My one and only response to that offer was "Not even on a cold day in hell." Even Walmart offers better than that.
I rarely tell people to pass jobs by. My one and only response to that offer was "Not even on a cold day in hell." Even Walmart offers better than that.
Sorry, gang, but when I grew up, you asked a man for work and you took what he gave you. General strike? Sounds like that hippy-dippy May Day crap. Not bein' treated with respect probably means that you don't wanna be told to put down your magic elf box full of texts and stock the shelves so the next shift don't have to finish your work and the customers can find what the wanna buy so they come back again and the store don't close. A startin' wage is just that. A livin' wage is what you earn when your production is consistent with something of comparable value. If your low/no-skilled ass ain't worth much, you ain't gettin' paid much, unless that's what you're willin' to settle for 'cause you ain't willin' to move or travel to someplace that pays more.
Raggedyman
Res ipsa loquitur
and for EVERYBODY . . . who is going to work when it pays better to saty home and play video games? just another benefit of the PLANEDemic
rob0126
Veteran Member
So when did foul treatment of employees ever become justified?
Yes, theirs some lazy people but what about the hard workers that dont get compensated for their work, or appreciated?
We can blame the corporate monsters for a lot of it (stressed out management) but we can still treat each other alot better.
Otherwise, we all are just cattle, being milked to death.
barbarossa58
Veteran Member
Sounds like the kind of place where you have to use your lunch half hour to attend your own funeral...
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
Perhaps the biggest point management will need to get used to.
At some point, the government cheese will come to a screeching halt.
People will flood back into the job market.
Employers are trying to hold out until that point.
Boosting wages now will mean a long term operational cost increase.
Much greater than the short term losses they are encountering now, due to lack of staff.
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
Don't like the way you're treated, don't take the job. Nobody takes the job, store closes. All y'all can sit around claimin to live in a "food desert" and maybe the dot-gov will just bring in commodities and pay all y'all's bills, and give all y'all free solar panels and your wi-fi will be no charge and if your ol' lady's ugly they'll bring in cute hookers at cut-rate and ... and... and... until the cute hookers go on a "general strike" 'cause they want more money for boinkin' ugly ol' geezers in small towns 'cause they should be paid the same as them glamour girls in Vegas... and... and...
LoupGarou
Ancient Fuzzball
EXACTLY!
Wait till our "Novocherkassk Massacre" happens here after the commies get even more control and the workers riot and get shot. People need to think about one little thought right now before accepting "the great reset" that everyone of these people that want everything for free and not to have to pay for anything and are begging for it:
While everyone is against slavery (the act of forcing someone else to work for YOUR gain), nobody seems to be against "the great reset" which will put everybody in the position of the slave, having to give everything to the new "government" only to be allowed to rent it back if possible. If you are made to work, and get nothing for it that you can OWN, then you are a slave.
But this is the new age, where right is wrong, up is down, bad is good, and the people are usually to dumb to notice...
rob0126
Veteran Member
Is there another kind of handout other than free?
And if foul treatment means that they're expected to do whatever is needed, then, yes, I'd justify that. Job's gotta get done.
LoupGarou
Ancient Fuzzball
At what price/cost point does having a worker versus a robot versus going online only (RadioShack.com) and not having a brick and mortar ANYWHERE cross? RadioShack died in the Brick and Mortar world because they kept pushing the cellphone crap too hard, and refused to innovate (and get innovative products in that other companies did not have), and became the K-Mart of the electronics world with higher prices.
If you want a job, you have to have an employer that can hire you, OR become an employer/consultant/freelancer yourself. The problem is that if you demand pay above what you are worth to the employer or company, you are not going to get hired. Companies need to make a profit because there are other costs in the system that are above the costs of either buying or producing a product, and the costs of the employees. If there is a store or business, unless it meets and works in a field during the daytime, there will be power, building, water and other costs on top of product/services costs and employee costs. Most employees think that their "pay" is the only thing that they are "costing" the employer, they are MASSIVELY wrong, as there are large costs in the insurance, taxes (and related), and other parts of the equation that the employee never sees. Sure, you can be a freelancer or consultant and keep your "costs" fairly low so that the majority of your "income" stays in the "take home" category, but still Taxes and other crap take a good chunk out of that.
If we could get rid of Federal and most state and local taxes, then things would work a LOT better. The FedGov needs to go back to providing for Safety and Domestic Tranquility alone, and paying for that by Tariffs. The states need to go back to MINIMAL governance. And as far as "Infrastructure", make it pay to play, where you pay a yearly fee to drive on the roads, and a different yearly fee to use the interstate. This way you don't have to pay for something that you don't use. Right now we pay a CRAPLOAD of money in taxes to have it go to things that we don't use ourselves, and in a lot of cases don't agree with. And the overall goal of TPTB now is to take in a much money as possible, and grow themselves and the swamp in general as fast as possible. It isn't going to stop anytime soon unless a LOT of people stand up, and as long as the free gravy train is continuing to stop by....
If you want a job, you have to have an employer that can hire you, OR become an employer/consultant/freelancer yourself. The problem is that if you demand pay above what you are worth to the employer or company, you are not going to get hired. Companies need to make a profit because there are other costs in the system that are above the costs of either buying or producing a product, and the costs of the employees. If there is a store or business, unless it meets and works in a field during the daytime, there will be power, building, water and other costs on top of product/services costs and employee costs. Most employees think that their "pay" is the only thing that they are "costing" the employer, they are MASSIVELY wrong, as there are large costs in the insurance, taxes (and related), and other parts of the equation that the employee never sees. Sure, you can be a freelancer or consultant and keep your "costs" fairly low so that the majority of your "income" stays in the "take home" category, but still Taxes and other crap take a good chunk out of that.
If we could get rid of Federal and most state and local taxes, then things would work a LOT better. The FedGov needs to go back to providing for Safety and Domestic Tranquility alone, and paying for that by Tariffs. The states need to go back to MINIMAL governance. And as far as "Infrastructure", make it pay to play, where you pay a yearly fee to drive on the roads, and a different yearly fee to use the interstate. This way you don't have to pay for something that you don't use. Right now we pay a CRAPLOAD of money in taxes to have it go to things that we don't use ourselves, and in a lot of cases don't agree with. And the overall goal of TPTB now is to take in a much money as possible, and grow themselves and the swamp in general as fast as possible. It isn't going to stop anytime soon unless a LOT of people stand up, and as long as the free gravy train is continuing to stop by....
lonestar09
Veteran Member
No one ever mentions anywhere that investment groups are the problem....
The Snack Artist
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"STAFF QUITS OVER LOUSY PAY!" Sounds like two people quit. Had a relative work at Staples. Pure misery.
It may have already been mentioned, but the minimum wage in Maine is $12.15. Not that big of a difference, but I wanted get that fact out.
The Snack Artist
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That's a woman!?
SSTemplar
Veteran Member
The problem is the high inflation that we have had since 1968 and the fact that a person(poor) with no resources cannot get a minimum wage job that will provide training that allows them to better themselves( if I’m wrong name one). As in starting a minimum wage job that leads to a trade. Today you have to know someone to get a position like that or go to trade school. Most kids out their will not go to trade school in their spare time or as a college replacement because there has to be something that doesn’t involve dirty hands or wearing gloves and doing real work. Then there’s peer pressure. So take a minimum wage job and live at home or in a pack of friends. Then the government gives you better money for not working that boring job. Well they would be stupid to not take it. Heaven help you if you would hire a kid and train him/her to be your competitor. Greed is a terrible sin and the world is ruled by greedy people. I feel sorry for those kids and think that one day all hell will break loss and they will be leading the charge. Lose thinking no rhyme.
Interesting thread so far. I can see what kind of employment some people have had.
A few couple observations:
To posters that say that the employees have a responsibility to their community and employer. HA. If their boss/company can fire them at anytime, then the employee can walkout for any reason. If the store is closed...oh well. Management should have hired better people and treatrf the good ones better. This is not entitlement. It is the capitalist job market.
Over the past few months with the labor shortage, I've heard some funny, to me, comments. The employees that worked menial jobs at places like DG Walmart etc are already at the bottom level. They saw an opportunity with .gov money and took it, nothing to lose. I find it funny all the people that will criticize those workers, call them names/disparaging terms, and say if you don't like the job then quit, are now the ones most butt hurt. I've seen and heard these same people saying oh these workers are lazy and need to get back to work. Amazing how when they become inconvenienced they will bitch about it. The employees took the advice to heart and quit. Seems to me, a lot of these 'free market' people are in name only and change when it affects them. I think some of them would be in favor of mandatory work brigades so they can not be inconvenienced. Of course that wouldn't apply them or them family and friends
This is the way most of our discount retail stores are run. The people that make the big company descentions work behind layers of management so they will not have to deal with the riff-raff. The same ones they don’t want to pay much and deny raises to. The same ones that they will talk bad about the employees that work in their stores about and how they are drains on society and never amount to anything. Amazing, now when the same employees are gone, then its a problem.
Seems, in this country we have a lot of ‘freedom, capitalism, free choice, right to work people. They will preach it night and day….until it inconveniences them. I can see a few of them leading the mandatory work movements. Probably the same people that support the draft. The lines of have and have not's are forming
A few couple observations:
To posters that say that the employees have a responsibility to their community and employer. HA. If their boss/company can fire them at anytime, then the employee can walkout for any reason. If the store is closed...oh well. Management should have hired better people and treatrf the good ones better. This is not entitlement. It is the capitalist job market.
Over the past few months with the labor shortage, I've heard some funny, to me, comments. The employees that worked menial jobs at places like DG Walmart etc are already at the bottom level. They saw an opportunity with .gov money and took it, nothing to lose. I find it funny all the people that will criticize those workers, call them names/disparaging terms, and say if you don't like the job then quit, are now the ones most butt hurt. I've seen and heard these same people saying oh these workers are lazy and need to get back to work. Amazing how when they become inconvenienced they will bitch about it. The employees took the advice to heart and quit. Seems to me, a lot of these 'free market' people are in name only and change when it affects them. I think some of them would be in favor of mandatory work brigades so they can not be inconvenienced. Of course that wouldn't apply them or them family and friends
This is the way most of our discount retail stores are run. The people that make the big company descentions work behind layers of management so they will not have to deal with the riff-raff. The same ones they don’t want to pay much and deny raises to. The same ones that they will talk bad about the employees that work in their stores about and how they are drains on society and never amount to anything. Amazing, now when the same employees are gone, then its a problem.
Seems, in this country we have a lot of ‘freedom, capitalism, free choice, right to work people. They will preach it night and day….until it inconveniences them. I can see a few of them leading the mandatory work movements. Probably the same people that support the draft. The lines of have and have not's are forming
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The Snack Artist
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Never work yourself to death over a job that can and will replace you in one day.
wages are going to rise because employers have to compete with
the government
the new government minimum wage
and the new government unemployment compensation.
employers will be required to offer more pay in order to get people off unemployment
and that means that cost of goods sold will rise to cover the wage increases
unless you believe the employer is just going to eat the higher wages
and if you are currently making under $15/hour you better start looking for another job because you are the last person who is going to get a raise
the government
the new government minimum wage
and the new government unemployment compensation.
employers will be required to offer more pay in order to get people off unemployment
and that means that cost of goods sold will rise to cover the wage increases
unless you believe the employer is just going to eat the higher wages
and if you are currently making under $15/hour you better start looking for another job because you are the last person who is going to get a raise
Texican
Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
Our local DG is 17 miles away and normally has loads of customers and generally sufficient staff to serve the customers.
It appears that a lot of the problems experienced at DG comes from upper management in the area that are only looking at the bottom line and not how to improve the bottom line and their employees lives.
Texican....
It appears that a lot of the problems experienced at DG comes from upper management in the area that are only looking at the bottom line and not how to improve the bottom line and their employees lives.
Texican....
Not at DG. see above.
SwampTiger
Watching…to go Home
Our local Dollar General just locked it's doors also....same reasons. They all quit. In SW Louisiana.
Wonder if we will be seeing a trend spreading....
Wonder if we will be seeing a trend spreading....
West
Senior
Vary interesting. Attitude is everything! I'm tempted to get a job on payroll for half a year, then get lazy, fired or layed off. Then file for Unemployment benefits and be in the money!
But karma would kick me in the arse so bad that I would fear the worse. Then make it happen.
Probably has a lot to do with the bonus structure.
Calculated off of the bottom line....period.
No way to figure anything in about turnover or other factors.
Staff is just a replaceable name on the payroll spreadsheet.
rob0126
Veteran Member
Is there another kind of handout other than free?
And if foul treatment means that they're expected to do whatever is needed, then, yes, I'd justify that. Job's gotta get done.
You are grouping bad employees with good employees.
You fire the bad ones and keep the good ones.
Treating people like jerks never works, and is why a lot of people hate their jobs.
West
Senior
Good post.
Just add that the good employees need to get their own licenses and or what not to be their own boses!
Best to yous.
WTSR
Veteran Member
Dollar General is a corporation, therefore it is socialism.
Socialism = Corporations owning the means of production.
This idiot should go back and fix her note.
Socialism will destroy this country!
Capitalism BUILT it! People did not flock to this country to start Corporations, people started sole proprietorships.
Socialism = Corporations owning the means of production.
This idiot should go back and fix her note.
Socialism will destroy this country!
Capitalism BUILT it! People did not flock to this country to start Corporations, people started sole proprietorships.