CORONA Dr. Fauci: These 2 new fast-spreading omicron Covid subvariants are ‘pretty troublesome’

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Oh look, and just in time for midterms. Go AWAY, you sad little troll. No one wants you here any more.

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Dr. Fauci: These 2 new fast-spreading omicron Covid subvariants are ‘pretty troublesome’​


As winter inches closer, Dr. Fauci is sounding the alarm about a pair of “pretty troublesome” Covid variants.

The two descendants of omicron’s BA.5 subvariant, called BQ.1 and BQ.1.1, both have dangerous “qualities or characteristics that could evade some of the interventions we have,” Fauci told CBS News on Friday. The two sublineages are responsible for more than 10% of all current U.S. cases, according to the latest Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data — just one week after they weren’t even significant enough to list.




There’s no guarantee that the two strains will eventually overtake BA.5 as the dominant variant in the country. But if they do spread rapidly, they could threaten to reverse a nationwide decline in Covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths, leading Fauci to urge Americans against letting their guard down.

“As much as you want to feel good about the fact that cases are down, hospitalizations are down, we don’t want to declare victory too prematurely,” Fauci, the president’s chief medical adviser, said. “And that’s the reason why we’ve got to keep our eye out on these emerging variants.”

BA.5 still makes up nearly 68% of all current U.S. cases. The new strains are responsible for almost 20% of cases in a region that includes the New York City metropolitan area, which many experts consider the area a bellwether for Covid waves — due to its dense population and high volume of incoming international travelers.

Fauci said the strains have a concerning “doubling time,” referring to how quickly they spread. The U.K. Health Security Agency reported earlier this month that the strains even demonstrate a growth advantage over BA.5, which was considered the most contagious Covid strain to date.

BQ.1.1 is also particularly adept at dodging the protective antibodies you get from prior infection or vaccination, Fauci noted.




Scientists from Peking University in China published a study earlier this month that found BQ.1.1′s ability to evade antibodies was “far exceeding” that of BA.5. The study, which has yet to be peer-reviewed, also found that BQ.1.1 was capable of evading immunity from a previous BA.5 infection and some antibody drugs, including Bebtelovimab and Evusheld.

Still, the fact that both strains come from BA.5 means the new omicron-specific booster shots likely provide some protection against them. Early clinical trial data suggests that the boosters work well: Pfizer’s new shot generated a strong immune response against both omicron’s BA.4 and BA.5 subvariants, the company reported last week.

“The somewhat encouraging news is that it’s a BA.5 sublineage, so there are almost certainly going to be some cross-protection that you can boost up,” Fauci said.

You can also protect yourself against the virus by wearing a mask in high-risk areas or situations. The CDC recommends masking indoors if you’re in a county with a substantial or high-level spread of Covid.

Fauci, during an event with the USC Annenberg Center for Health Journalism earlier this month, said “it’s entirely conceivable” that the U.S. will see enough of an uptick to encourage indoor masking nationwide again.

“I hope not,” he added.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Would shooting Hitler….say, circa 1944……have been considered murder ?

All other things being equal…….

An old question. Alternate history buffs know that that question is unanswerable.

There's no way to know that, if Adolf Hitler had been accepted to art school, the Holocaust would never have happened.

While it may be possible that Hitler was the lynchpin for several million deaths, there's no way to know if anyone else would have done the same thing.

So if you go back in time, shoot Hitler, and instead, 30 million people die, is it still murder?

Better yet, you might as well ask if shooting Hitler, say, circa 1944, have been considered murder....if it caused him to be replaced by a sociopath who WASN'T neck-deep in astrology and the occult and also WASN'T dumb enough to stage a two-front war including a fight with Russia in the winter. Then, when the United States is now Das Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika, ruled with an iron fist by Otto Skorzeny the Fourth, have you commited MORE murder than you set out to do?
 

Samuel Adams

Has No Life - Lives on TB
An old question. Alternate history buffs know that that question is unanswerable.

There's no way to know that, if Adolf Hitler had been accepted to art school, the Holocaust would never have happened.

While it may be possible that Hitler was the lynchpin for several million deaths, there's no way to know if anyone else would have done the same thing.

So if you go back in time, shoot Hitler, and instead, 30 million people die, is it still murder?

So let’s try another one.

“There is a time to kill.”

“Sell your extra cloak, and buy a sword.”

In your perception of things, when is killing a human being NOT murder ?
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
So let’s try another one.

“There is a time to kill.”

“Sell your extra cloak, and buy a sword.”

In your perception of things, when is killing a human being NOT murder ?

...really? You have to be told this?

Well, all right. Self-defense has always been Scripturally sanctioned.

The only problem becomes where God believes self-defense stops.
 

workhorse

Veteran Member
I wouldn’t put it past him to have arranged this just to keep himself relevant he is that much of a psychopath. I would like to find out who payed for the new strain out of Boston University that’s 80 percent fatal. Or better yet who has the patents on the special vaccine.
 

Samuel Adams

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The only problem becomes where God believes self-defense stops.

And do you have a solid basis for determining where God believes self defense stops ?

Or defending the defenseless ?
Or defending the fatherless ?

Or taking out a known and frequently lurking lethal threat to the community, especially the defenseless elderly and children ?


Perhaps you jumped to conclusions when you assumed that the poster who asked, “why is Fauci still breathing”, meant that Fauci should be put down on the street in broad daylight with a well-placed and unexpected shot.

Maybe the poster meant,
“Why haven’t the FBI arrested Fauci and subjected him to federal trial where the court firmly upholds the best interests of the people and acknowledges that Fauci is guilty of mass murder and deserves the death penalty ?”

As such….would you approve if your government did the killing for you ?

And if so, from whence did the government derive such power ?
 

Samuel Adams

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I wouldn’t put it past him to have arranged this just to keep himself relevant he is that much of a psychopath. I would like to find out who payed for the new strain out of Boston University that’s 80 percent fatal. Or better yet who has the patents on the special vaccine.

Truth be known it could all be misdirecting propaganda.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I wouldn’t put it past him to have arranged this just to keep himself relevant he is that much of a psychopath. I would like to find out who payed for the new strain out of Boston University that’s 80 percent fatal. Or better yet who has the patents on the special vaccine.
Yes.

Let’s find out.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
And do you have a solid basis for determining where God believes self defense stops ?

Or defending the defenseless ?
Or defending the fatherless ?

Or taking out a known and frequently lurking lethal threat to the community, especially the defenseless elderly and children ?


Perhaps you jumped to conclusions when you assumed that the poster who asked, “why is Fauci still breathing”, meant that Fauci should be put down on the street in broad daylight with a well-placed and unexpected shot.

Maybe the poster meant,
“Why haven’t the FBI arrested Fauci and subjected him to federal trial where the court firmly upholds the best interests of the people and acknowledges that Fauci is guilty of mass murder and deserves the death penalty ?”

As such….would you approve if your government did the killing for you ?

And if so, from whence did the government derive such power ?

I don't control the government. If I'd had any doubt of that, 2020 proved as much.

And there are only so many ways to interpret "Why is Fauci still breathing?". As for your potential interpretation, you're either being obtuse or deliberately disingenuous; Fauci would still be breathing in federal court.
 

Paladin1

"In Omnia Paratus" is more than just a phrase
And do you have a solid basis for determining where God believes self defense stops ?

Or defending the defenseless ?
Or defending the fatherless ?

Or taking out a known and frequently lurking lethal threat to the community, especially the defenseless elderly and children ?


Perhaps you jumped to conclusions when you assumed that the poster who asked, “why is Fauci still breathing”, meant that Fauci should be put down on the street in broad daylight with a well-placed and unexpected shot.

Maybe the poster meant,
“Why haven’t the FBI arrested Fauci and subjected him to federal trial where the court firmly upholds the best interests of the people and acknowledges that Fauci is guilty of mass murder and deserves the death penalty ?”

As such….would you approve if your government did the killing for you ?

And if so, from whence did the government derive such power ?
Just to play Devil's advocate here for a bit, or maybe not...
Psalm 149 is sitting here like a lion while everyone else is claiming that there's never a time for Christians to fight.
I'd argue that it's a Messianic psalm, but there's some validity to the idea that it's meant to be more than that and there's some truth to the idea that the Kingdom is now and yet still future.
If it truly is more than a Messianic psalm...
 

Samuel Adams

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Fauci would still be breathing in federal court.

But……if he is guilty of the research, the funding, the lies, the shots in every dead child’s arm, should he be ?

Nice sidestep, btw, regarding your personal lack of control over the government.

That was not the question, and you know it….. so who is “being obtuse or deliberately disingenuous” ?
 

Samuel Adams

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If it truly is more than a Messianic psalm...

My interpretation is that just about every concept in Scripture has an immediately literal and myriad metaphoric intent upon the conscience of those who seek Father and His will.

So……yeah…
 

BassMan

Veteran Member
I don't follow Fauci, but do follow a lot of docs, virologists and researchers on Twitter. The new strains bypass a lot of innate or induced immunity. There is concern, in the minds of some.
 
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Paladin1

"In Omnia Paratus" is more than just a phrase
His credibility is entirely shot. Why would anyone believe him?
It's not that they believe him, it's that the left is using him as an excuse to drive their followers towards doing what they want, which is a civil war.
There's only one reason we're not at the shooting stage already and it's because the Right hasn't took the bait yet, but that's not going to stay that way forever. It will eventually happen.
 

SSTemplar

Veteran Member
I will be waiting and watching just like the first time. If I go to Brookshires and there are 30 bodies laying in the parking lot I might be concerned for the other 67%.
 

Crusty Echo 7

Veteran Member
Wait, it’s not like someone would be dumb enough to combine the most “deadly” and “virulent” versions…..oh wait, there’s already a thread on that….
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
There's no way to know that, if Adolf Hitler had been accepted to art school, the Holocaust would never have happened.

Thread drift, hitler was selling his artwork, even though he hadn't been to art school. He just wasn't selling it to the "clients" he wanted to sell his work to. It was a jewish gallery owner that mocked his work and ridiculed hitler publicly that initially set off hitlers hatred against the jews.

I have no answer as to why that dwarf is still alive other than God isn't done using him to chastise His children yet.
 

Bolt

FJB
As predicted, just in time for midterms. "You should vote by mail or drop box to protect yourself and others. Don't forget your weekly booster!"
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
Because murder is illegal and God hates it too. So...yeah....


I recall an event that took place where two people had sex tougher and after they were done one of then said I have aids the other person killed him, when this reached a court of of law he was acquitted on all charges because of the fact the person give him aids.
 
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