INSANITY De Blasio confirms he'll cut $1B from NYPD budget (from Politico)

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High school students unfurl giant banners on the steps of Tweed Court, during a rally near City Hall calling for 100 percent police-free schools and defunding the NYPD. | AP Photo

High school students unfurl giant banners on the steps of Tweed Court, during a rally near City Hall calling for 100 percent police-free schools and defunding the NYPD. | AP Photo
De Blasio confirms he'll cut $1B from NYPD budget

By ERIN DURKIN
06/29/2020 02:03 PM EDT
NEW YORK — Mayor Bill de Blasio has agreed to cut $1 billion from the budget of the NYPD, he said Monday.
Amid protests over the death of George Floyd, activists and City Council members have been demanding a billion-dollar cut to the police department’s roughly $6 billion budget. POLITICO first reported Sunday night the mayor's office had agreed to a slate of cuts laid out by the City Council. De Blasio initially resisted the push, but confirmed at a press briefing Monday that he sent a proposal to the Council that included the $1 billion in savings.


“I am excited to say that we have a plan that can achieve real reform, that can achieve real redistribution, and at the same time ensure that we keep our city safe,” the mayor told reporters.
The deal involves moving school safety agents, who are unarmed but wear police uniforms, into the Department of Education, canceling a July class of roughly 1,100 police recruits, and shifting certain homeless outreach operations away from police control.

Under the law, the city's budget must be approved by midnight Tuesday.
De Blasio declined to discuss most details of the cuts he has agreed to, but confirmed it would include a shift for school safety agents, which will take place over several years.

On top of the $1 billion cut in operating expenses, there will be a more than $500 million cut to the NYPD’s capital budget, with the money instead used to build youth recreation centers and for public housing developments, de Blasio said.
“Everything was with an eye to safety, so we will be able to ensure the patrol strength we need. We will be able to ensure that school safety can do its job. The school safety issue would be addressed over several years,” de Blasio said.
“I was skeptical at first, and wanted to see how it could all come together,” de Blasio said. “A lot of painstaking work occurred to figure out the right way to do things.”

Critics are already expressing objections to the impending deal.
“Mayor de Blasio and Speaker [Corey] Johnson are using funny math and budget tricks to try to mislead New Yorkers into thinking that they plan to meet the movement's demands for at least $1B in direct cuts,” said Anthonine Pierre, a spokesperson for Communities United for Police Reform, who called for a full hiring freeze on NYPD officers. “This is a lie.”

The budget is expected to total $87 billion, down from the mayor’s proposal of $95.3 billion in January. The economic crisis sparked by the coronavirus pandemic has cost the city more than $7.4 billion in tax revenue.
De Blasio said he was “disappointed” that the state Senate has so far refused to give the city permission to borrow up to $5 billion to help plug the gaps. The Assembly, he said, has been more amenable to the idea.

Without a federal bailout, borrowing authority, or a labor savings deal by October 1, the mayor says the city will have to lay off 22,000 workers.
“This is not the 1970s. I have not gotten a coherent answer as to why it’s just not the right thing to do,” de Blasio said of the borrowing plan. “Austerity is never the way to go.”
Mike Murphy, a spokesperson for Senate Majority leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins, said de Blasio has failed to address “legitimate concerns held by our Senators.”

“We are not against a borrowing plan that makes sense, but remain concerned that the Mayor began asking for $7 billion, then dropped his request to $5 billion, all to close a $1.6 billion gap,” he said in a statement Monday. “Prudence requires the development of a plan not rushed through before action is actually necessary, especially when the possibility of additional federal aid remains unresolved.”
 

Troke

TB Fanatic
Covid-19 my butt! We have a pandemic of Wacko-20!
One more time. There are thousands of college grads with degrees in Intersectional Transexual Feminist Studies or equivalent They need good gov jobs because no private company would hire somebody so stupid as to degree that.

So, they will ride with the few cops left to provide Conflict De-escalation.
 

Bps1691

Veteran Member
Hum...

NYC cops are supposed to already be requesting retirements at a high rate. With this budget cut wonder how many more just made the decision because of this?

Honestly don't know why any competent officer in these communist blue cities wouldn't already be looking for some way out...

… I look for an increase in the medical disability requests soon as well
 

Tripod

Senior Member
The age old saying to get a little ya have to give a little does not hold true in this case. This move will coast nyc in ways that can not be measured on the Richter Scale. On the other hand they are used to it.
Mike
 

mzkitty

I give up.
Don't go there.

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NYC Mayor de Blasio says city will cut $1 billion from NYPD budget despite surge in violence

June 29, 2020

NEW YORK, NY – The city that doesn’t sleep had better open their eyes.

On Monday, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) said he’ll slash $1 billion from the budget of the New York City Police Department (NYPD).

The move comes in spite of a huge surge in shootings after violent unrest sparked by the death of George Floyd.

“I am excited to say that we have a plan that can achieve real reform, that can achieve real redistribution, and at the same time ensure that we keep our city safe,” De Blasio told reporters, according to Politico.

He claims it was all about safety first.

“Everything was with an eye to safety, so we will be able to ensure the patrol strength we need. We will be able to ensure that school safety can do its job. The school safety issue would be addressed over several years,” the mayor continued.

It’s a good thing, he says.

“I was skeptical at first, and wanted to see how it could all come together,” he added. “A lot of painstaking work occurred to figure out the right way to do things.”

On Sunday, Politico reported that de Blasio gave his blessing for the cuts, which were proposed by New York City City Council members.

“The deal involves moving school safety agents, who are unarmed but wear police uniforms, into the Department of Education, canceling a July class of roughly 1,100 police recruits, and shifting certain homeless outreach operations away from police control,” the news outlet detailed.

It’ll all happen fast – the city’s budget must be approved by midnight Tuesday.

Anthonine Pierre is a press representative for Communities United for Police Reform. In a statement to Politico, he slammed De Blasio’s plan to cut funding for the NYPD.

“Mayor de Blasio and Speaker [Corey] Johnson are using funny math and budget tricks to try to mislead New Yorkers into thinking that they plan to meet the movement’s demands for at least $1B in direct cuts.”

“This is a lie,” Pierre added.


In the last nine days, 110 people have reportedly been shot in New York City.

As crime explodes in the Big Apple, last week the NYPD Commissioner admits: “Our criminal justice system is imploding”

Implode is defined as: “to collapse or cause to collapse violently inwards; to end or fail suddenly or dramatically”. This is the word that NYPD Police Commissioner Dermot Shea used to describe the criminal justice system. And he chose the right word.

“You have to step back and look at this. You have a criminal-justice system that is imploding,” Shea told reporters on Wednesday at One Police Plaza in Manhattan. “Imploding. That’s the kindest way to put it.”

The Commissioner illustrated his point by highlighting the many criminal cases there were “ongoing, stagnant or deferred”.

“Each one of them represents somebody not being held accountable and no consequences.”

These comments came just days after a weekend that saw 75 people shot in the city (bringing the total in June up top 125 shootings). And the NYPD believes that many of the triggers pulled in those cases were pulled by people out on parole or who currently have open cases.

“You hear terms such as supervised release right now, that is a fallacy,” Shea said. “There is no supervision. There is just release, and you are seeing the repercussions of that across the city.”

The city has seen a rise in shooting victims. While 359 people were shot in all of 2019, 2020 has already seen 459, and we still have a few days to go until we reach the halfway mark.

According to the Daily Mail:

“‘We have been trending this way for a while, and the shootings are just the latest symptoms,’ Shea said. ‘We need the criminal justice system to start working, quite frankly.’

He insinuated that criminal justice reforms, including the elimination of cash bail for certain offenses, has had a role in the increase in violence throughout the city.

‘People do not want to talk about this, but I will not be shy and talk about it. There is literally almost no one in jail,’ Shea said.

‘When you ask the Police Department now to somehow wave a magic wand and fix when you are putting dangerous people back on the street, you’re seeing what’s happening. And the shame is again, this is not a surprise.’

Shea said that many of the shootings that took place over the past weekend involved ‘three common nexuses: alcohol, marijuana and dice games.'”


Now, NYC mayor Bill de Blasio wants to pretend that police are vital to the safety of the city and its residents. After years of ignoring them, criticizing them, and using them to play personal staff to his his family, the mayor said that “hundreds of police officers normally in desk jobs would be heading out onto the street as part of the ‘Summer All Out’ program which is beginning now.”

These officers would be focusing on the 20 precincts throughout the city experiencing issues with gun violence – specifically those in the Bronx and North Brooklyn.

‘We know when there’s shootings they beget more shootings. We understand retaliation, we understand gang dynamics. And I’ve heard from a number of community leaders that they are increasingly concerned,’ de Blasio said Monday.

And as we see this increase in violent crime in New York City, let’s not forget:

Police Commissioner Dermot Shea announced on Monday that the NYPD undercover anti-crime unit was set to be disbanded. Shea said the move was part of a “seismic” shift within the NYPD.

The disbanding, of course, is part of police reforms that rioters hope to bring to police departments following the death of George Floyd while in police custody over in Minneapolis. The department is also looking at funding cuts of up to $1 billion of its $6 billion budget.

Mayor Bill de Blasio, who has a complicated, at best, relationship with the officers in his city’s department, tweeted following Shea’s announcement:

“Your city hears you. Actions, not words.”

It’s unknown if de Blasio was referring to the rioters hearing the action, or the other criminals that will no doubt pounce on the loss of the proactive work within the unit.

Breaking news: The NYPD will disband a plainclothes team with about 600 officers that has been involved in some of the city’s most notorious police shootings N.Y.P.D. Disbands Plainclothes Units Involved in Many Shootings
— The New York Times (@nytimes) June 15, 2020
The near 600 units assigned to the elite anti-crime unit will be reassigned to “other posts,” such as detectives or neighborhood policing.

After praising the officers for the amount of arrests they made, in addition to the amount of guns they got off the streets, Shea said:

“I would consider this in the realm of closing on one of the last chapters on stop, question and frisk.”

What’s infuriating for me, and I have to imagine the same for many of the NYPD officers, is that the mainstream media is using this to say they’re being disbanded because they don’t do their jobs correctly or safely or they’re rogue cops or what have you.

For example, the New York Times titled their article on this topic:

“N.Y.P.D. Disbands Plainclothes Units Involved in Many Shootings”

Yes, they have been involved in “many shootings.” Here’s why:

While the unit does account for about half of the officer involved shootings within the department, one must at least attempt to understand that this fact is due to the types of people the officers in the unit deal with on a daily basis.

In patrol, yes, some people that officers come in contact with are criminals. In anti-crime units and plainclothes undercover units, that’s essentially all they come in contact with. They’re dealing with some of the worst and most dangerous criminals out there. It’s only natural that those encounters would have a more high rate of officer involved shootings over a regular patrol officer.

The NYPD just disbanded every Precinct Anti-Crime teams. These teams historically account for the majority of gun arrests in NYC https://t.co/HhFHf8HAWm
— Rob O'Donnell (@odonnell_r) June 15, 2020
They aren’t attempting to do proactive police work and still be patrol responsive from anything from a bank robbery in progress to “my neighbor’s leaves are in my yard.” They are constantly being proactive, looking for criminals and ways to get them, and their weapons, off the streets.

And yet, here we are.

Shea said this unit was part of an “outdated policing model,” and that the units do more harm than good in terms of relationships with the communities. The department, he said, will use more intel gathering and technology, whatever that means, to be able to “move away from brute force.”

Shea also said:

“This is a policy shift coming from me, personally, and the men and women in the police department were doing what I asked… they have done an exceptional job, but again I think it’s time to move forward and change how we police in this city.

“When you look at the number of anti-crime officers that operate within New York City, and you look at a disproportionate, quite frankly, percentage of complaints and shootings — and they are doing exactly what was asked of them.”


Shea also said that some plain clothes police officers will still be out in Gotham, as well as in the transit system, although he would not say how many or if they will actually be allowed to do police work.

The Commissioner also alluded to the fact that the disbanding of the unit will have an impact on the community, and not necessarily in a positive way.

“It will be felt immediately throughout the five district attorney’s offices, it will be felt immediately in the communities that we protect.

“However, this is 21st-century policing. The key difference, we must do it in a manner that builds trust between the officers and the community.”


The absence of the unit will also likely be felt by the increased amount of guns that will be on the streets. As it is, there is already a huge spike in gun violence this year over last, despite the COVID-19 lockdowns. As of Sunday, there have been 394 incidents, up from 317 at this time last year, an increase of 25%.

Your city hears you. Actions, not words. NYPD disbanding anti-crime unit, another officer disciplined for protest actions
— Mayor Bill de Blasio (@NYCMayor) June 15, 2020
Gun arrests had also been up by 8% even though other arrests had gone down, likely due to less people on the streets and more crimes being handled with citations rather than arrests.

Police Benevolent Association President Patrick Lynch, who is never one to pull punches, said:

“Anti-crime’s mission was to protect New Yorkers by proactively preventing crime, especially gun violence. Shooting and murders are both climbing steadily upward, but our city leaders have clearly decided that proactive policing isn’t a priority anymore.

“They chose this strategy. They will have to reckon with the consequences.”


On the flip side, the executive director of the law enforcement policy nonprofit Police Executive Research Forum, Chuck Wexler, said:

“It’s really sending the message that we have to work on trust building. You can reduce crime, but if the public still feels that they don’t trust the police, then you’ve lost the moral high ground. Police departments across the country will see this as a wake-up call.”

Some may say that communities around the country will also see this as a wake-up call to the fact that this type of unit is what keeps major bad actors off the streets.

Of course district attorneys and civil rights lawyers are skeptical on whether the disbanding of the unit will last, and Darius Charney, a staff lawyer with the civil rights group Center for Constitutional Rights, said the move was “sudden and rushed.”

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Charney also said:

“For this change to have any meaningful impact on how communities experience policing in N.Y.C., these former anti-crime officers will need to change the way they police communities of color, and nothing the commissioner said gives me any confidence that the N.Y.P.D. has a plan to make sure that happens.”

Charney said that the city tried something similar in 2002 when it disbanded the street crime unit, also a plain clothes unit.

Planning to visit NYC anytime soon? NYPD To Disband Anti-Crime Unit In Nod To Protesters. NYPD To Disband Anti-Crime Unit In Nod To Protesters
— Amir Tsarfati (@BeholdIsrael) June 16, 2020
Of this, he said:

“The problem got much worse over the next 10 years.”

Likewise, Civil rights lawyer Joel Berger said:

“The anti crime units are just a legacy of street crime from the days of (ex-Mayor Rudy) Giuliani, with the motto ‘We own the night,’ just under a different name. It was never really designed to reduce crime. It was designed as a form of social control to show people in minority neighborhoods who is in charge, just like stop and frisk.”

In a statement, the Legal Aid Society said:

“This is welcome news, but New Yorkers will not be better served if these officers are simply reassigned, carrying with them the same bad habits that earned Anti-Crime its dismal reputation. The city must drastically reduce the NYPD’s headcount and use those funds to invest in communities.”

#BREAKING PBA President Pat Lynch’s response to the disbanding of Anti-Crime teams pic.twitter.com/IpQb9EbHsD
— NYC PBA (@NYCPBA) June 15, 2020
As per usual, it’s never enough. No matter what the police do, those who choose to hate them won’t be satisfied. Which is evident in many comments of protesters gathered by The Daily News.

I won’t honor those who said them with their names, but here are some direct quotes:

  • “We know how community policing actually operates… That is just a lie to keep resources in the police station.”
  • “It’s never gonna be enough until at least the NYPD and (Gov.) Cuomo sees that it’s bigger than just moving money and shifting it somewhere else.”

Eugene O’Donnell, a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice and a former cop, said:

“People are gonna die because of this. How many is hard to tell, but definitely some lives are going to be lost. But I think it’s a hard thing to argue with. We’re on an expressway heading in this direction and it can’t be stopped. The calculation in the big cities is, as long as it’s not at the hands of the police, you can have carnage.

“It’s the end of policing in the city, because these people did a disproportionate amount of it. You will never get this back even if you need it. The cops will never go back to taking risks and putting their freedom on the line. This is never going to happen. We’ve turned that corner now.”


Unfortunately, we would have to agree with Mr. O’Donnell. As always, Law Enforcement Today will keep you updated on how this move plays out for the communities of New York.

 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Well, the normal response (assuming you can't simply leave) woukd be to arm up to protect yourself and your family. Good luck with THAT!

Summerthyme
 

Sub-Zero

Veteran Member
One more time. There are thousands of college grads with degrees in Intersectional Transexual Feminist Studies or equivalent They need good gov jobs because no private company would hire somebody so stupid as to degree that.

So, they will ride with the few cops left to provide Conflict De-escalation.
Will they be armed? If not, I predict a very high turnover rate.
 

Practical

Contributing Member
No no, you people misunderstand. By cutting the budget, the violence will cease because they won right? That's how it works I'm sure. I read that somewhere. Actually I just wrote it down and read it, I believe literally everything I read. So NY, you are welcome, it's going to be great now!
 

mzkitty

I give up.
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Updated on June 30, 2020, 10:43 AM EDT



With demonstrators gathered Tuesday outside City Hall demanding a $1 billion cut in the police budget, Mayor Bill de Blasio and the City Council came to an agreement on the last day of the fiscal year that includes canceling the incoming class of July police recruits.

That move will reduce the 36,000-officer force by 1,100 and save $80 million, according to a City Hall source not authorized to release the information before its official announcement.

The city’s budget, which has been reduced by roughly $8 billion since January to about $87 billion, includes an estimated $1 billion in spending reductions to the department, some of which will be diverted to social services. That hasn’t satisfied activist groups, who say portions of the savings aren’t coming directly out of the department’s $5.9 billion operating budget, and other cuts, such as school safety officers, have been shifted to the education department.

Public Advocate Jumaane Williams, who opposed the deal saying it didn’t go far enough in cutting police headcount, said on Tuesday he would block it by invoking an obscure law that empowers him to prevent the budget from being executed. Williams demanded a hiring freeze and the removal of the NYPD’s responsibility for school safety within a year. The current plan extends that process over a longer period.

(Adds public advocate’s response in last paragraph)

 

20Gauge

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Ha! He NEEDED an excuse to cut something out of the budget thanks to the huge coronavirus-related losses he caused! Now with this, he has it!
Cutting due to the virus is one thing. The problem is that he is still spending the money..... just in other areas. Watch! It will happen.
 
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