CORONA Covid Round #2 - D614G mutation - resistant to handwashing and distancing

All4liberty

Senior Member
i am convinced if everyone wore a masks for a good 30 days we could slow/stop the spread and end this a lot sooner.
get your extra masks before Round #2 hits and they are all gone again. it is a fact that the nations who required masks did not suffer the physical, economical and medical problems the rest of the world experienced. Good masks work.

No, if everyone wore masks for a good 30 days it would NOT stop this. The best it could do is give you a weakened viral load. If this were airborne, humidity would cause the droplets to fall and it would have fallen off in the summer. In real science experiments they tried to capture covid from patients breath and they couldn't.

Sweden says "hello" as do the African nations.
 
Who knows... I hope we learn the truth someday but I'm not counting on that.

Personally, I also believe that it was created in a lab in Wuhan, but I believe the CCP intentionally promoted it's spread through allowing Chinese to travel around the world in order to weaken the opposition so the CCP can ascend to become the dominant power that they strive to be.

First the virus devastates the economy of western powers, especially the USA, and then communist insurgencies break out in the streets .... coincidence?
Oh wow. I never thought of that!
 
If the information is correct, it explains why the ChiComms reacted to the outbreak with such a draconian response. Remember, and it now seems to be coming out, this started in China more likely last September. Which is to say, the mutation hit likely, about January of this year for them. We could soon see here, the mortality rates they experienced then.

Meanwhile, people here are spreading it like crazy. Off to the video.
Yeah i saw the videos of people in China being very sick and dropping like flies in the streets. The chinese baracadded some apt buildings doors so the people could not go out. They had to put a rope down and the guards (?) would tie a bag of food to it and they would draw it up. I don't understand why here in the U.S. people are not dying in the streets like in China. Why is that? Yes, we have let down our guards. People outside are wearing the same dirty mask!
 

raven

TB Fanatic
Can't believe you people are going to fall for it again. That's all.
as we can see from this small sample of the population, they will fall for it again.
and they will tell people to not go to work
and tell small business to shut the doors
and expand non essential workers
and expand the national debt
and print more money

it is very clear where this is going - prepare . . . or don;t
 

frazbo

Veteran Member
Call me paranoid, or call me paranoidcracker (that sounds racist, no?)....

but today when I saw the newly shipped cotton masks, the ones in the heavy plastic pouches, the ones with the red inspection stamp with PASS written in English, the ones made in China and now available in Target and Wal Mart, the ones that cost only $4 for a pair, the ones that come in your choice of color....

My paranoidcracker mind pondered the possibility of a devious Trojan horse attack. Oh, the irony! The mask meant to save us from the virus could instead bring us a special infused ingredient, one made in China....

After my discovery of masks made by Hanes were NOT made in Vietnam, as the outside info says, but the INSIDE sticker says Made in China 6/20/20...I was in WM yesterday and walked by the display, all in cardboard boxes and wrote in big letters on the box: MADE IN CHINA. DH didn't say a word, told him I've wanted to do that since day one after finding out...he just smiled. He knows my sooooo well.
 

Trivium Pursuit

Has No Life - Lives on TB
When I went to the doctor for my annual last Tuesday I was told they were expecting this thing to take two years or so to run its full course. Effectively the 1918 Flu model.
This is exactly what I have been thinking. Next Spring I think will be quite interesting. It is also interesting to note that both of the Spanish flu and the ccp virus often kill by a cytokine storm.
 

Trivium Pursuit

Has No Life - Lives on TB
You have not been following the long tail phenomenon. A number of people have gotten this, fought it for 3 weeks, then seemed to get better the 4th week. Then they relapse and a been having involved symptoms who for months and months afterwards. It's been posted about here a fair amount.
 

yellowlabz

Veteran Member
as we can see from this small sample of the population, they will fall for it again.
and they will tell people to not go to work
and tell small business to shut the doors
and expand non essential workers
and expand the national debt
and print more money

it is very clear where this is going - prepare . . . or don;t
Your last line makes me ask...do you listen to Richie From Boston?? ;) Yeah, I don't like where this is going -- and I think it is all planned.
 

JMG91

Veteran Member
IF--and that's a big IF--this actually is a stronger mutation, and not a concoction of the democrat party, which controls the medical establishment, it's because we've all been hiding from this and never developed herd immunity. The virus has not weakened in this country, as it has in Sweden, because we closed everything down and tried to keep from getting it.
 

JMG91

Veteran Member
Call me paranoid, or call me paranoidcracker (that sounds racist, no?)....

but today when I saw the newly shipped cotton masks, the ones in the heavy plastic pouches, the ones with the red inspection stamp with PASS written in English, the ones made in China and now available in Target and Wal Mart, the ones that cost only $4 for a pair, the ones that come in your choice of color....

My paranoidcracker mind pondered the possibility of a devious Trojan horse attack. Oh, the irony! The mask meant to save us from the virus could instead bring us a special infused ingredient, one made in China....
^^^This! And the tests, too! Think about it, they stick that swab all the way to the back of your nasal passage, and if it contains the virus...

I leave the rest up to your imagination.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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I was derailed over the ". . . life long lasting health problems for anyone who gets it. 'recovered' isnt all that 'recovered ' Really? has anyone had this long enough to justify any statement about "long lasting" effects?

Anyone who gets it? I now know a few people that have had it and none of them ... NONE ... have had any lasting health affects. I'm not doubting that it happens but "anyone who gets it" is a full on hysterical statement to get people to buy whatever he is selling.

The actual number of cases is extremely up to interpretation. Tricare notified 600,000 people they had it when they didn't. And that is just one example of the egregious stupidity out there.
 

JMG91

Veteran Member
Anyone who gets it? I now know a few people that have had it and none of them ... NONE ... have had any lasting health affects. I'm not doubting that it happens but "anyone who gets it" is a full on hysterical statement to get people to buy whatever he is selling.

The actual number of cases is extremely up to interpretation. Tricare notified 600,000 people they had it when they didn't. And that is just one example of the egregious stupidity out there.
^^^This. My husband's uncle got it badly--they vented him and ended up giving him an emergency tracheotomy--but he's since fully recovered with no after-effects.
 
Personally, I also believe that it was created in a lab in Wuhan, but I believe the CCP intentionally promoted it's spread through allowing Chinese to travel around the world in order to weaken the opposition so the CCP can ascend to become the dominant power that they strive to be.

First the virus devastates the economy of western powers, especially the USA, and then communist insurgencies break out in the streets .... coincidence?
No.

Particularly in global politics, NOTHING is coincidental.

I have begun to wonder if we are being "told" a lie of omission, with regards to an apparent inability to develop a successful vaccine because "viruses" mutate too rapidly - what if that is untrue, or, only partially applicable/the whole story?


intothegoodnight
 
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All I know is that I used to be physically active as now I'm not. I'm still symptomatic, and have been since May 9th.

Apparently 25% of people get some sort of permanent damage and 10% get ever cycling symptoms which we don't know if they will ever end.

Anyone who still preaching asymptomatic and less than 1% death rate is an ignorant fool.
HCQ + zinc may be a treatment option for those so effected because it seems to be able to preempt the COVID-19 life/reproductive cycle and attenuate the immune system response - tamp it down for a period of time - IF this likely engineered virus DOES indeed have a "gain of function" element designed into it, which makes it "hide" in the human body until conditions are such that it can emerge to cause physical mayhem, then HCQ + zinc may prove effective for putting this "gain-of-function" engineered virus back into temporary remission.

HCQ may end up being the required long-term treatment protocol (like with lupus and malaria) until something more permanent can be conjured up by the medical research bunch.

Think how childhood chicken-pox remains dormant in the body until many decades later, when it can reappear as shingles - usually in either immune-compromised individuals, or oldsters.


intothegoodnight
 
Sent this to a friend.

It bounced back as undeliverable..... reason "SPAM"

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If you are using a Gmail SMTP to send your email, THAT may be the issue - several tech acquaintances, over the last couple/three years, have noticed that email sent using Gmail's SMTP servers can bounce back, marked as spam by the receiving email server - try using a non-Gmail SMTP server.

May also be true with other large email SMTP providers - Yahoo, others.


intothegoodnight
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
If you are using a Gmail SMTP to send your email, THAT may be the issue - several tech acquaintances, over the last couple/three years, have noticed that email sent using Gmail's SMTP servers can bounce back, marked as spam by the receiving email server - try using a non-Gmail SMTP server.

May also be true with other large email SMTP providers - Yahoo, others.


intothegoodnight

Nope, I've already learned to not transmit anything through my gmail account. I've already posted here my issues with gmail.

If I'd posted the entire reject email that would have been evident but would have disclosed more IP addresses than I wanted.
 
If you are using a Gmail SMTP to send your email, THAT may be the issue - several tech acquaintances, over the last couple/three years, have noticed that email sent using Gmail's SMTP servers can bounce back, marked as spam by the receiving email server - try using a non-Gmail SMTP server.

May also be true with other large email SMTP providers - Yahoo, others.


intothegoodnight
I sent my publisher 3 emails cause i was asking him a question. He never responded. So then i called his phone number and he told me to check my junk mail folder. I did and i found 3 of his emails there!
 

LittleYellowFlower

Flower Whisperer
I don't know what to believe anymore.

I’m right here with ya! Contradictions keep coming out about what we are told and everything keeps changing.

The evolution of Covid reminds me of trying to track a hurricane. There are hundreds of different tracks. It just depends on which organization you get your information from. Covid seems to be the same way. All we can do is batten down the hatches and pray it goes down a path other than our own.
 

LittleYellowFlower

Flower Whisperer
Call me paranoid, or call me paranoidcracker (that sounds racist, no?)....

but today when I saw the newly shipped cotton masks, the ones in the heavy plastic pouches, the ones with the red inspection stamp with PASS written in English, the ones made in China and now available in Target and Wal Mart, the ones that cost only $4 for a pair, the ones that come in your choice of color....

My paranoidcracker mind pondered the possibility of a devious Trojan horse attack. Oh, the irony! The mask meant to save us from the virus could instead bring us a special infused ingredient, one made in China....
Call me paranoid as well. This has been in my head for several months now.
 
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