PREP COMBAT PREPPING 1-31-2017

[Doomer Doug]

Perhaps because I am dealing with a level of social anarchy up here in Portland, Oregon on a daily basis, I have become more focused on what I call "the physics of armed resistance." I can walk out my apartment door and come into physical contact with potentially violent Snowflakes within five minutes. I have personally dealt with ongoing riots since November 8th. I am talking about routine deployment or riot police, mass chaos, rioting, violence and vandalism. I am talking about tear gas, pepper spray used by Police. I am talking about physical attacks on any Trump supporter naive enough to go to a Snowflake demonstration thinking free speech and peaceful actions are possible. I will say it quite bluntly, if a Trump supporter goes anywhere near a Snowflake demonstration in Portland, Oregon THEY RISK PHSYCIAL ATTACK, VIOLENCE AND BODILY INJURY.

Having said all of that, I am increasingly convinced of the need for "combat prepping" is prepping activities, supplies and the physical, mental and spiritual mindset needed to live through a violent contact with Snowflakes seeking to, frankly, beat you so badly you need to go to the ER. If you think I am being theatrical, you are woefully naive. I am talking about violent mobs, the exact same violent mobs I personally observed multiple times in downtown Portland.

At any rate, I have enhanced, speeded up and rechecked my weapons. I define "personal weapons" into three separate armed criteria. They are handguns, rifles, and shotguns.
I will talk about handguns.
I view "combat prepping" as all actions related to each group.
The "handgun" means the actual weapon and all accessories needed to be functional, as well as all training etc needed.

The first thing you need is obviously a handgun. I am not going to get into the 9mm versus 45ACP quagmire. I am also not going to get into the revolver versus the semi-automatic quagmire. I will just list, mostly because I no longer care what "they" think or know about me.
In addition to the handgun, and I am talking about the Taurus Model 65 Four inch barrel chambered in the 357 Magnum round/38 Special, or 38 +P round, you need a holster. The holster may either be a shoulder holster, or a belt holster, or a concealed carry waist pouch. You should spend the money to get a good one. I have Uncle Mike's for both.

One handgun.
One, or two holsters.
Speed loaders and pouches for the 357 Magnum
Speed Strips and pouches for the 357 Magnum
Cleaning kit.
Ear plugs and over the ear hearing protectors.
Shooting glasses. I have the US Army ones that fit over the helmet.
The handgun should have rubber grips to reduce recoil.
You should have a minimum of 300 rounds, including 38 Special for target/training shooting. 38 +P for your light combat load. You should have 357 Magum ammo, including some specialize rounds for heavy combat loading.
The reason I personally like the 357 Magnum round is it is the most powerful, except for the 50 Caliber Desert Eagle, handgun round you can legally buy.

Again, you should shoot often and train with the rounds you will actually need. I have also scoured Youtube for information. You would, well maybe timebomb members won't be, be surprised at the vast amount of information on it about guns and stuff.

So, I just wanted to put this out there. My judgment is I may very well be actually killing Snowflakes in the near future. I hope not, but after watching them riot for the last two and one half months, I no longer feel violence can be avoided. Good luck, people and remember to duck!

 

[Illini Warrior]

very surprised the Portland PD got permission for immediate physical confrontation the other day - think they surprised the hell out of the little azzhole protesters - most got caught flat footed and smashed into the pavement .... from the crowd reaction the general public is sick & tired of the BS ....

 

[smokin]

Good luck, people and remember to duck! ( Doomer Doug )

If I end up anywhere near you and see your hand go in your jacket I am a ducking !!!

 

[medic38572]

they have to have a little fun every now and then or they become bitterer to the establishment.

very surprised the Portland PD got permission for immediate physical confrontation the other day - think they surprised the hell out of the little azzhole protesters - most got caught flat footed and smashed into the pavement .... from the crowd reaction the general public is sick & tired of the BS ....

 

[colonel holman]

assume you are carrying intermediate level protection for the current threat level, as allowed in that jurisdiction... 2-3 small units of personal pepper spray to extricate self from conflict incident. hit and run stuff

 

[Doomer Doug]

Yes, the use of pepper spray, flashbangs and mace by PPD on the SPECIAL SNOWFLAKES has caused the usual uproar. However, the fact the Snowflakes did between one and three million dollars damage during the November 8th "demonstrations" has led the new Mayor Ted Wheeler to show more spine than the previous, gutless, spineless fool Charlie Hales ever did. Still, I think the PPD is going to intervene more quickly. The major use of Pepper Spray and flashbangs was to keep the Snowflakes from crossing the bridges from downtown to the eastside. Further, PPD has clearly been given orders to directly intervene when they see the famous Snowflake baseball bats come out and business windows start to get smashed. It costs upward of $1000 to replace a single smashed windows. The grapevine says that the local business community vented heavily on the local politicians about the million plus property damage.

It is legal to carry factory sealed Pepper Spray on your person in Portland. I have an Uncle Mikes belt holder left over from my private security days which I carry on my belt at ALL TIMES. It contains a 2 ounce Fox Labs 2 percent Oleoresin Capsicum with a 5.3 million SHU with Ultra Violet Dye also. It is a stream Law Enforcement formula that will make some Snowflake F#%%% with me regret that he/she did so.

I did have a concealed handgun permit from 1994 to 2004, but I let that lapse. I am also thinking about getting one of those superflashlights that blind people with dazzling beam of light. Actually, unlike New York City or wherever, you can carry some fairly potent self defense stuff here in Portland.

I try to avoid the Snowflake mobs as best I can, but I really do think we are going to see Soros funded social anarchy as the spring and summer comes. Unless Trump castrates Soros he will keep funding the riots.

 

[OldArcher]

Doug, when TSHTF, permits won't matter- resolution will... The "combat mindset" is many things, but resolution, the will to live, rather than be a victim, is key to survival...

The day I got back from Vietnam, somebody broke into my parents house- they weren't there, but I was... I'd just picked up a new car with my combat pay, and visited the local gun store, where I picked-up a brand new Ruger Blackhawk in .357 mag... I didn't want to kill anybody my first day back, so I put a round through the floor, into the basement... All I could see was assholes and elbows, as they booked it... I was, as always, ready to finish anything, but not the first day back... Two days later, I drove to a "nearby city," to meet up with my parents for some down time... And getting lost, drove with my new car, into the midst of a race riot... It was 1972, summer... My Ruger was on the seat beside me... I was stopped at an intersection, because the idiot in front of me, stopped for a red light! Coming toward me, was a skinny ******, with eyes vacant, like in a zombie movie, holding a lead pipe over his head... My window was up, air conditioner going full blast- you know, luxury, not sweating bullets from the heat? I took one look at that miserable son of a bitch, not having slept well since getting back, grabbed the piece, eared back the hammer, and aimed it at his head... I was ready to kill him, rather than have him take me, or scratch my car!... He evidently saw the muzzle aimed his way, and took not one more step. He stopped, bare feet juddering on the hot pavement. He must have seen my face, because he dropped that pipe, right on his head! The car ahead of me, decided to finally go, and I got out of there... Behind me, was one lucky ******, although I'll bet he had one helluva headache later... Funny thing- as ready as I was to blow his lights out, I'd forgotten the damned driver's side window... He'd have been dead, I'd have been deaf, and I'd have had to buy a new window... Guess it all worked out... Since then, I go armed- and screw anybody that doesn't like it... I'm not, nor will I ever be, a victim...

I guess I'd better drink more coffee, as my adrenal gland is in high gear...

GBY&Y's

Maranatha

OldArcher

 

[Coco82919]

Have you given any serious thought to moving?

 

[JF&P]

Doug I'm presuming you don't have a car... But if things get really bad, I can come pick you up... And take you to my place which half way between molalla and Oregon City.... And it's very safe here.

 

[Doomer Doug]

No, I haven't had a car since 1988 when I wrecked mine. LOL And short of winning the Powerball Lottery I am stuck here for the rest of my 63 plus years. You get used to the Snowflakes who are only really potentially lethal in large groups of howling morons.

I may take you up on that JFP, but you have TIGERS AND LIONS AND BEARS OUT THERE? LOL

Seriously, Portland is damn near in a permanent state of chaos right now.

 

[Doomer Doug]

PTSD

Old Archer, even though I never saw any combat, a lot of my military experiences in Europe left me with what they now call PTSD. I remember after getting out getting an apartment in Seattle and then drawing all the drapes and then just sitting there for hours spacing out. I did that for several months before I started to come out of things. Even in a peacetime Army there is a lot of bullshit from racial things, drugs, just the general bs of normal army life. Yep, I was glad to get out some of that being due to I was in Europe/Germany for nearly all of my enlistment.

I still think I have a brutal streak I got from dealing with all the ****** bs in the barracks.

 

[Freeholder]

No, I haven't had a car since 1988 when I wrecked mine. LOL And short of winning the Powerball Lottery I am stuck here for the rest of my 63 plus years. You get used to the Snowflakes who are only really potentially lethal in large groups of howling morons.

I may take you up on that JFP, but you have TIGERS AND LIONS AND BEARS OUT THERE? LOL

Seriously, Portland is damn near in a permanent state of chaos right now.

LOL! Bears, and if you are lucky, you might see a cougar! You have much worse predators right there in Portland!

The climate isn't what you are used to, but Klamath Falls has a city transit system and (I'm pretty sure) lower rents than in Portland. All you'd have to do is hop the train down here.

Kathleen

 

[OldArcher]

Old Archer, even though I never saw any combat, a lot of my military experiences in Europe left me with what they now call PTSD. I remember after getting out getting an apartment in Seattle and then drawing all the drapes and then just sitting there for hours spacing out. I did that for several months before I started to come out of things. Even in a peacetime Army there is a lot of bullshit from racial things, drugs, just the general bs of normal army life. Yep, I was glad to get out some of that being due to I was in Europe/Germany for nearly all of my enlistment.

I still think I have a brutal streak I got from dealing with all the ****** bs in the barracks.

My ex-wife thought I had PTSD, but I disagree... I just don't put up with anybody's crap, usually keep to myself, and don't suffer fools gladly... Stress I got, and would cheerfully go through again, when I was first one parent's caregiver, followed shortly after by the other... Almost fifteen years, non-stop. I'd do it again... Now, my daughter is helping to take care of her maternal grandmother... I tell any who will listen- treat every moment, like gold, because when they're gone, you will miss them terribly, until you're reunited in Heaven... If only, for even just one moment... Stressed out? Not by, or of, myself... Just got a call from the wife of a friend... She's "dumping" him here, with me, tomorrow for four or five hours, while she runs errands... He has PTSD and dementia... Stress, for me, is already building, and it's only by God's Grace, that I'll muddle through... I'll be very, very, glad when Jesus Comes for us... I'm tired...

GBY&Y's

Maranatha

OldARcher

 

[jazzy]

doug,
your list looks well thought out and it is just smart to prepare as best as you can. but you forgot one critical thing........................

chocolate.

you gotta have chocolate tucked in there somewhere. ,
even if you dont eat chocolate if some female snowflakes start coming at you, throw some hershys dark chocolate kisses at them by the fistfuls it will distract them long enough to make your escape.

 

[JF&P]

doug,
your list looks well thought out and it is just smart to prepare as best as you can. but you forgot one critical thing........................

chocolate.

you gotta have chocolate tucked in there somewhere. ,
even if you dont eat chocolate if some female snowflakes start coming at you, throw some hershys dark chocolate kisses at them by the fistfuls it will distract them long enough to make your escape.

Do girls really like chocolate that much???

Damn, I've been led astray all my life I guess....LOL

 

[Vegas321]

Doug, the NUMBER ONE thing about prepping for combat, is too AVOID combat, when all possible. Being armed is no guarantee of safety, or avoiding criminal charges in a liberal area.
I would really think about moving at least a few miles west bud. Get out of the hot zone, and try to stay gray.

 

[Doc1]

Doug,

You really should look into getting a new CCW permit. A .357 is a fine choice in personal protection. Forget the .38 Spl. +P and load the thing with full house .357 rounds. Also, I strongly advise against a shoulder holster. I used one many years ago until more advanced tactical training showed me the potential liabilities of using them in a force on force scenario. Now the only time I'll use a shoulder holster is for legitimate hunting activities, where I'm concerned about keeping my .44 Mag away from the water when in marshes and swamps. Pepper spray can be effective, but I'd forget about the gimmicky super flashlights which supposedly blind an assailant. They are ineffective to the point of uselessness when used outdoors on a sunny day. They may be somewhat effective in a darkened room or outdoors at night, but I wouldn't trust my life (or well-being) to one.

Best regards
Doc

 

[Housecarl]

doug,
your list looks well thought out and it is just smart to prepare as best as you can. but you forgot one critical thing........................

chocolate.

you gotta have chocolate tucked in there somewhere. ,
even if you dont eat chocolate if some female snowflakes start coming at you, throw some hershys dark chocolate kisses at them by the fistfuls it will distract them long enough to make your escape.

Do girls really like chocolate that much???

Damn, I've been led astray all my life I guess....LOL

Doug, the NUMBER ONE thing about prepping for combat, is too AVOID combat, when all possible. Being armed is no guarantee of safety, or avoiding criminal charges in a liberal area.
I would really think about moving at least a few miles west bud. Get out of the hot zone, and try to stay gray.

Yes!

I stopped a bar fight in its tracks one night when working a major hotel in the East Bay with a $20 dollar bill....A drunk from a wedding at the hotel was in the bar, took the drink of another patron and gulped half of it, apologized, bought the guy another drink, took a sip of it and handed it to him....Well the wedding drunk's buddies were in the bar and the other patron's buddies had just walked in. I stepped in between them, spun the offended guy around and gave the rightly offended guy a twenty I had in my front pants pocket from a tip, which with everything else fully confused this guy who was sober (the drink he'd had purloined was his first ordered at the bar) and ushered him out to his friends. I then called for an "adult" in the other guy's group and told him to get this guy, who was his uncle, out of there.

The bartender reimbursed me from his tip jar; he'd never seen anything like that before and had expected a real blood bath (the offended guy and his friends were from Richmond (African American) and the drunk and his family were from Fremont (South Asian)).

So yeah, distraction that's a 180 from the building situation can be your friend....

 

[OldArcher]

Doug, I wish I could say something right now... I've written four responses since I read your last, tossing them in the wastebasket. The more I think, the more adrift I become...

Sorry, my friend... Maybe tomorrow, I'll be able to separate myself from myself...

GBY&Y's

Maranatha

OldARcher

 

[Doomer Doug]

Hustle a female Snowflake? Now, there is no need to freak me out like that. You should all remember that Portland is the kind of place where the transsexuals, transvestites and female impersanators, of which I had one live two doors down for several years, all look better than your average Portland woman. The female impersanator looked better than Dianna Ross did!

Doc1, I like my shoulder holster. It makes me feel like Elliot Ness!

 

[Publius]

One must find what works for them and I will not knock the .38 special for self defense.

 

[Housecarl]

One must find what works for them and I will not knock the .38 special for self defense.

At the distances involved the choice of projectile is as important as the chambering....

 

[homecanner1]

Clyde Lewis of Ground Zero radio show said essentually the same thing, that its insanity and he has to keep a bug in bag at the radio station as trains are blocked or flash mobs on the streets prevent him exiting the building. Clothes, toiletries, Duplicate sets of meds, for home and for work as twice he has been forced to seek a downtown hotel since the election. He said Portland is in a de facto martial law situation because non rioting citizens have to stay in a proactive state of 24/7 awareness.

Its a template for all cities, esp. college towns. Doug, thanks for your eyes & ears there keeping us up on Portlandia madness!

 

[Theophilus]

Doug,

You really should look into getting a new CCW permit. A .357 is a fine choice in personal protection. Forget the .38 Spl. +P and load the thing with full house .357 rounds. Also, I strongly advise against a shoulder holster. I used one many years ago until more advanced tactical training showed me the potential liabilities of using them in a force on force scenario. Now the only time I'll use a shoulder holster is for legitimate hunting activities, where I'm concerned about keeping my .44 Mag away from the water when in marshes and swamps. Pepper spray can be effective, but I'd forget about the gimmicky super flashlights which supposedly blind an assailant. They are ineffective to the point of uselessness when used outdoors on a sunny day. They may be somewhat effective in a darkened room or outdoors at night, but I wouldn't trust my life (or well-being) to one.

Best regards
Doc

Doc1, if you do not recommend the 38 spl +P, then I suppose you also do not care for the 9mm. Would that be correct? Also, in most revolvers only load 5 or 6 bullets.

Interesting that so many police depts are opting for the 9mm. Perhaps that is for the cost of ammo as much as anything.

Just wonder if you would give wisdom as to your thinking.

Thanks

 

[Doc1]

Doc1, if you do not recommend the 38 spl +P, then I suppose you also do not care for the 9mm. Would that be correct? Also, in most revolvers only load 5 or 6 bullets.

Interesting that so many police depts are opting for the 9mm. Perhaps that is for the cost of ammo as much as anything.

Just wonder if you would give wisdom as to your thinking.

Thanks

Theo,

I do not dislike the .38 Spl. +P. I should have made myself clearer. I was addressing the concept of loading a .357 Magnum revolver with .38 Spl. +P ammunition. If one goes to the expense of buying a .357 and is willing to endure the extra weight of that revolver instead of the (generally lighter) .38 Special, it makes no sense to handicap yourself by under-loading the weapon. There are only two reasons that people generally use to justify using .38 Special ammo in a .357: The first is that they are uncomfortable with the recoil and the second is that they are afraid of "shooting the gun loose" or (less often) are afraid of "blowing it up." No quality .357 is going to shoot itself loose much less blow up using any factory ammunition or sane reloads. The recoil-shy should understand that they should only pull the trigger in a genuine life-threatening situation and in that case, recoil will be the last thing they'll remember after the fact. There are people with medical conditions - such as arthritis in the wrists - which genuinely preclude using heavy-recoiling handguns. In those cases I recommend that they explore smaller calibers until they find one they can more effectively use.

As far as the 9mm goes, I do not dislike it, either. I own several 9mms and with modern bullets they can be reasonably good defensive tools. All things being equal though, I do prefer more robust calibers such as .45 acp or .357 Magnum for defensive use. Compared to centerfire rifles, virtually all handguns are underpowered and with that in mind, shot placement rules - irrespective of caliber!

Best regards
Doc

 

[coalcracker]

Have you given any serious thought to moving?

Bingo.

I moved in 2015. It was costly and highly inconvenient. But nothing, NOTHING, is more important than location. Not only do you gain safety for when the balloon goes up, you gain immediate quality of life living around better human beings.

 

[Doomer Doug]

Nah, I ain't moving for several reasons. The first is no money. The second is I still like the urban buzz I get. The Snowflakes don't scare me. I don't have any problems walking around since I guess I put off a don't F#%%% with me vibe. We have a lot of people standing on the street corners trying to sell you stuff. They take one look at me and won't bother me. LOL

The other thing is Portland is still a beautiful city despite all the bs going on. When you are on the river, looking east at Mount Hood lit up in pink from the sunset, well it just doesn't get any better than that.

 

[R65]

OP

If you like the power of the 357 Magnum, but would like to enjoy that in a semi automatic, the 357 Sig is very comparable, and available in many different guns.

And it's easy to carry many 15 round mags, for quick reloads.

I'd feel pretty good about carrying 60 rounds of 357 Sig, which is 4 magazines.

This ammo is 90 grains, at 1700 fps.
https://underwoodammo.com/shop/357-sig-90-grain-xtreme-defender/

 

[David Nettleton]

Taurus 605 (.357 mag) with laser. $550 and you're good-to-go.

 

[Dozdoats]

DD,

As to ammo, shoot what you carry for practice ammo, and carry what you shoot in practice. Don't mess around with different kinds of ammo. Shoot one thing and buy it in quantity.

Yes, it costs more, unless you shop carefully (check Fiocchi's centerfire pistol ammo). Yes, it kicks more. Yes, with a magnum there will be more muzzle blast and flash. But if you are gonna carry a .357, shoot .357 ammo in it all the time.

I have no quibble with revolvers, or with your choice of caliber. But different ammo will all likely shoot to different points of impact because of the influence of recoil on muzzle rise no matter how solid your grip. You cannot afford not to know where your bullet is going under duress.

 

[Doomer Doug]

The Taurus Model 65 I have has a four inch barrel. I bought it in 1989 for under $200 I think. I am thinking of getting rubberized grips for it to reduce recoil. I am also buying new accessories, like strippers and pouches because my original ones have all fallen apart being nearly 30 years old. LOL

$200 divided by 28 years/ 1989 to 2017 means it cost me $8 a year plus ammo and accessories. Take that you $700 Glock and Sig Sauer guys. I have seen M-1911's that cost around $1000 each.

 

[hardrock]

One of the most important things I learned is to always keep your weapons dirty. After you carry around an M60 and ammo by the entire squad for 3 days and find out you have a single shot M60, you find out to always test fire before you put your life on the line.

 

[Theophilus]

Theo,

I do not dislike the .38 Spl. +P. I should have made myself clearer. I was addressing the concept of loading a .357 Magnum revolver with .38 Spl. +P ammunition. If one goes to the expense of buying a .357 and is willing to endure the extra weight of that revolver instead of the (generally lighter) .38 Special, it makes no sense to handicap yourself by under

Thanks Doc for the clarification. One of my favorites is a Ruger GP 100 [357]. Great to shoot, minimal kick because it is so wonderfully balanced. But, it only holds 6 bullets. So, it isn't what I primarily practice and carry.

Thanks

 

[OldArcher]

DD,

As to ammo, shoot what you carry for practice ammo, and carry what you shoot in practice. Don't mess around with different kinds of ammo. Shoot one thing and buy it in quantity.

Yes, it costs more, unless you shop carefully (check Fiocchi's centerfire pistol ammo). Yes, it kicks more. Yes, with a magnum there will be more muzzle blast and flash. But if you are gonna carry a .357, shoot .357 ammo in it all the time.

I have no quibble with revolvers, or with your choice of caliber. But different ammo will all likely shoot to different points of impact because of the influence of recoil on muzzle rise no matter how solid your grip. You cannot afford not to know where your bullet is going under duress.

For many years, I shot .45acp. I'd practice with Speer Lawman, while carrying the same weight in Gold Dot. Same recoil, POA/POI for both. Cheaper, yet viable... Can't find an analog for my standard, EDC 9mm, which is Liberty's Civil Defense load- 50gr at 2,000fps... So, practice rds are 115gr Fiochi or perFecta... Just have to get used to minimal muzzle rise, no loss of sight picture, and superb accuracy...

GBY&Y's

Maranatha

OldARcher

 

[eXe]

Makes me glad I live in a small Nevada town Yeah I am still prepped up like crazy because you never know.. a 50 min car ride from Vegas lands you right in the center of town here, and if the snowflakes decide to take a drive, they will be in for nasty surprise

Stay safe.

 

[Doughboy42]

My ex-wife thought I had PTSD, but I disagree... I just don't put up with anybody's crap, usually keep to myself, and don't suffer fools gladly... Stress I got, and would cheerfully go through again, when I was first one parent's caregiver, followed shortly after by the other... Almost fifteen years, non-stop. I'd do it again... Now, my daughter is helping to take care of her maternal grandmother... I tell any who will listen- treat every moment, like gold, because when they're gone, you will miss them terribly, until you're reunited in Heaven... If only, for even just one moment... Stressed out? Not by, or of, myself... Just got a call from the wife of a friend... She's "dumping" him here, with me, tomorrow for four or five hours, while she runs errands... He has PTSD and dementia... Stress, for me, is already building, and it's only by God's Grace, that I'll muddle through... I'll be very, very, glad when Jesus Comes for us... I'm tired...

GBY&Y's

Maranatha

OldARcher

God Bless You.

 

[Doomer Doug]

I just received my two packages or BIANCHI SPEED STRIPS PAIR MODEL 580 IN 38 SPECIAL/357 MANGUM MODE FROM AMAZON. They cost a total of $26 including Shipping and handling. I was amazed to find out they have their headquarters in Ontario, California. Anyway, I had the first pair for well over twenty years before they cracked. Now all I need is a belt pouch holder for them. I also had one of those, but since I bought everything in 1989 when I first bought my revolver, they have suffered the full effect of aging, much like all of us here.

So, as of today my "combat load" is four Bianchi Speed Strips holding 2r rounds total. I also have two Speed loaders in a shoulder holster pouch and twelve rounds. Finally, I have six rounds loaded in my revolver. Of course, it is illegal to carry a loaded weapon in the City of Portland, and likely Multnomah County, much less shoot one, just ask the blogger sentenced to 50 years by the local Marxists here.

At any rate, at least in my apartment, where I am ARMED AT ALL TIMES, I carry 42 rounds physically on my body. I just have to remember to take my revolver off when I leave. he he he Or not. he he he

Anybody have any suggestions for a belt holder for my speed strips. I did have one, but it also has decayed like I have! I think it was one of the last American made Uncle Mike's, before they offshored to Asia. I looked at their stuff, but the quality sucks compared to what it was 25 plus years ago.

 

[L.A.B.]

I was in a Kalifornia gun shop today. Big chain-store in this area. I've been a shopper since 1976 and my observations are like Moses coming down from the mountain. The average age purchaser was probably about late 20's. While I stood in line with the drones & clones, my frustration with the circle jerk resulted in my comment for everyone at the counter, both salesmen and purchasers.

"If you care for the 2nd amendment, and your still a democrat, you better seriously re-think your game."

Who was I kidding. 75% of those customers there today were in all likelihood the left's 5th column.

It's not too far off from my subtle observations and PING.

 

[Millwright]

Time to work on your urban camo.

Be ready to not look like you.

 

[biere]

For the person asking about something to hold a couple speed strips on his belt, I highly recommend you just run some searches on amazon and surplus sites and look at various belt pouches. Some will be made more for holding some rubber gloves if you play with galls or the police section of amazon. The surplus stuff I got I forget what they called em for but they have the common snap setup alice gear used but it is a nice leather pouch and about perfect for holding a multi tool sideways. I would expect it to hold both your speed strips with ease.

I don't know if you want to mess with anything else since you got your speed strips, but lots of folks buy some rubber hose from somewhere and slice it open and then make it into a bullet holder sort of like a speed strip. You can get the clear hose common for aquirums and water or play in the automotive section or whatever.

I have a cheap velcro closure glove pouch, for holding a bunch of rubber gloves, and it lasted 6+ years or daily use in corrections. I need to replace the velcro or really I plan to use one of the surplus pouches I bought most likely. So depending on what you want for a closure, new stuff vs old stuff comes into play.

When I say galls keep in mind they can be high, but they have a good selection to look at on the net and then you can check amazon for that item at a better price.

For surplus I use old grouch, majors, coleman, and probably some others I am not thinking of. A google should turn up each of those as a surplus website.

To some extent I have an old camera pouch that would more than hold a couple speed strips but it is a little bulky. One of the pouches from my old flip phone cell phone might be perfect.

As to practice and what not, I shoot a lot of 38 special in my 357s when I owned em, and I still shoot a lot of 44 special in my 44 mag. The 44 special is more for fun and plinking and it is a known aiming point. I only run one 44 mag load in it as well and it is a known aiming point.

I carry a snubby in 38 +p and got it cause it weighed enough I will shoot it and not get a flinch. The lightweight magnum was too much and I trust the ol 38 special. I usually also carry a bottom feeder of some sort as well.