PREP Clark Howard talking preps

[20Gauge]

Clark Howard is on the radio talking about the most basic needs to prepare for the evils in the world. He talks about Putin and how they can take down our water supply or power supply with little effort.

He personally stocks 5 cases of water and 14 days of long term food for the family.

Also talking about batteries almost being at the point of being as good as generators.


Not so sure about the last part.

For our part, we are big into rechargable batteries, but do like stocking the free ones from Harbor Freight. Right now we are doing both. So he may be correct to an extent.

Nice to see prepping going a bit mainstream without the nutty aspects being highlighted.

 

[Profit of Doom]

Link?

 

[Warm Wisconsin]

Link?

Since Clark Howard is on the radio I doubt there is a link

 

[Blacknarwhal]

Clark Howard is on the radio talking about the most basic needs to prepare for the evils in the world. He talks about Putin and how they can take down our water supply or power supply with little effort.

He personally stocks 5 cases of water and 14 days of long term food for the family.

Also talking about batteries almost being at the point of being as good as generators.


Not so sure about the last part.

For our part, we are big into rechargable batteries, but do like stocking the free ones from Harbor Freight. Right now we are doing both. So he may be correct to an extent.

Nice to see prepping going a bit mainstream without the nutty aspects being highlighted.

Batteries are excellent if used in concert with generators. Instead of using generators directly as power sources, use generators to charge batteries and use batteries for power sources. That way, you're not running a 5KW gas generator to continuously power an appliance that only needs maybe 200 watts or so.

His food / water processes are pretty light, though. And I noted that he doesn't have much of a plan to defend it, or at least he's not talking about it, which is either idiocy or genius respectively.

 

[Profit of Doom]

Since Clark Howard is on the radio I doubt there is a link

Sorry, confused with this;
http://halturnerradioshow.com/index...ly-for-4-from-sam-s-and-walmart#disqus_thread

 

[jward]

https://couponshy.com/harbor-freight-coupons-promo-codes/

Free is pretty good- though $ back would be even gooder

 

[Sandune]

Batteries are excellent if used in concert with generators. Instead of using generators directly as power sources, use generators to charge batteries and use batteries for power sources. That way, you're not running a 5KW gas generator to continuously power an appliance that only needs maybe 200 watts or so.

His food / water processes are pretty light, though. And I noted that he doesn't have much of a plan to defend it, or at least he's not talking about it, which is either idiocy or genius respectively.

That's my plan during hurricane season. I have a set of batteries on a cart I can wheel around. They power an inverter. During the day I use the generator. At night the battery/inverter combination keeps the fridge running and a couple of breeze fans when it's hot. Two benefits, the generator isn't on at night producing noise and it can be secured inside away from thieves. During off season the batteries maintain charge from solar panels on the shed.

 

[Millwright]

Good to hear ANY discussion in the conservative media about preps.

Even better that it's not an obnoxious persona like Beck or Axle Jones.

IMO, this is a springboard to launch peeps into self sufficiency...or at least entertaining the concept.

Anybody that wasn't born into it has to get a shove from somewhere. Perhaps casual mentions by respected voices will do more of this.

Portraying their own level of preparedness as somewhat modest will not intimidate newcomers. A good way to make them think, "Hey, I can do this".

 

[summerthyme]

https://hip2save.com/2016/12/04/har...or-aaa-batteries-24-pack-no-purchase-required
https://couponshy.com/harbor-freight-coupons-promo-codes/

Free is pretty good- though $ back would be even gooder

Pretty sure the first coupon for the free batteries expired last December. Sorry!

As far as Mr Howard... I HOPE he's practicing some serious OPSEC and doesn't think that a week of water and 2 weeks of food is sufficient for anything except possibly a snowstorm or brief power outage! But it's better than nothing, for sure...

Summerthyme

 

[Milk-maid]

Clark Howard.......

He personally stocks 5 cases of water and 14 days of long term food for the family.

Amateur!

 

[Blacknarwhal]

That's my plan during hurricane season. I have a set of batteries on a cart I can wheel around. They power an inverter. During the day I use the generator. At night the battery/inverter combination keeps the fridge running and a couple of breeze fans when it's hot. Two benefits, the generator isn't on at night producing noise and it can be secured inside away from thieves. During off season the batteries maintain charge from solar panels on the shed.

The only problem is battery technology in general. I favor deep cycles; they've already saved my bacon a couple times in extended power outages, but their shelf life isn't the greatest.

 

[Profit of Doom]

Amateur!

Perzactly my thoughts!

 

[20Gauge]

Link?

My fault.... no link... he was talking on the radio. If you want 93.7 am in SE Georgia.

 

[bbbuddy]

The only problem is battery technology in general. I favor deep cycles; they've already saved my bacon a couple times in extended power outages, but their shelf life isn't the greatest.

Lifepo4 is awesome. Used with solar, lifespan looks to be decades. Ours hasn't changed a bit after a year. More money up front, less in the long run. Lightweight small footprint. Can use 80% without damage.

We have 48 of these:
http://www.electriccarpartscompany.com/New-Energy-72Ah-Aluminum-Encased-Battery

But we are off grid. These batteries can start and run our 1hp 230 volt well pump in the dark without blinking.
Most people could do with a lot fewer...

 

[Milk-maid]

Why do people listen to someone who is obviously so seriously undereducated about what real needs would be in a real world situation?

Same as, why do people listen to those who trashed gold and suddenly saw the light? They're newbies.

 

[20Gauge]

Why do people listen to someone who is obviously so seriously undereducated about what real needs would be in a real world situation?

Same as, why do people listen to those who trashed gold and suddenly saw the light? They're newbies.

Because it is fun?

 

[Dennis Olson]

I have no idea who this guy is, but 5 cases of water and 14 days of "long term food" (there's an oxymoron for ya) would not be considered preps. When I had my house in Wisconsin, I had 450 gallons of water and 5-6 months of food. And I wasn't even close to the most prepped out there.

 

[psychrn]

The only problem is battery technology in general. I favor deep cycles; they've already saved my bacon a couple times in extended power outages, but their shelf life isn't the greatest.

Here's something I bought. I got 8 hours run time on my coal stoker with blower running, 12 hours with blower off (using 9amp Flexvolt Lithium batteries). Since the fire dies in about 2 minutes, it is much quicker than trying to get the genny hooked up and running at 3AM, just plug into this.

http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DCB180...F8&qid=1523297405&sr=8-1&keywords=dewalt+1800

I am really happy with it, and I foresee using it as Sandune proposes: run quiet at night, charge with generator during day.

 

[20Gauge]

I have no idea who this guy is, but 5 cases of water and 14 days of "long term food" (there's an oxymoron for ya) would not be considered preps. When I had my house in Wisconsin, I had 450 gallons of water and 5-6 months of food. And I wasn't even close to the most prepped out there.

No doubt, but considering he is very liberal and was able to speak about the issue without any wooo was pretty nice. Yes, he didn't plan for much, but just being able to have the conversation was nice.

 

[hax0r212]

My house uses a gas heat furnace. When I moved in I had an electrician modify the electric wire to terminate with a three prong plug which plugs into an outlet he installed after the cut-off-switch. I then put a computer UPS in the middle, like this:
Furnace-->UPS-->Wall outlet.
Now, when/if the power goes out, my heat stays on.

I also have a portable tri-fuel generator, Goal Zero "generators", batteries, chargers, solar panels, etc.

 

[Millwright]

OMG

Let's play "my preps are bigger then yours".

Howzabouts expanding on the two weeks of food and 30 gal of water....in an affordable way?

The pretense of TB, back in the days of its inception, was to help people get up to speed on prepping.

No wonder we aren't getting many new and younger members who could benefit from the knowledge here

 

[Blacknarwhal]

My house uses a gas heat furnace. When I moved in I had an electrician modify the electric wire to terminate with a three prong plug which plugs into an outlet he installed after the cut-off-switch. I then put a computer UPS in the middle, like this:
Furnace-->UPS-->Wall outlet.
Now, when/if the power goes out, my heat stays on.

I also have a portable tri-fuel generator, Goal Zero "generators", batteries, chargers, solar panels, etc.

That's a goal here too, after a fashion; being able to connect the furnace blower to a backup battery would certainly be helpful. Maybe this fall when I get the maintenance started up.

 

[Dennis Olson]

OMG

Let's play "my preps are bigger then yours".

Howzabouts expanding on the two weeks of food and 30 gal of water....in an affordable way?

The pretense of TB, back in the days of its inception, was to help people get up to speed on prepping.

No wonder we aren't getting many new and younger members who could benefit from the knowledge here

Um, "new and younger" people aren't interested in belonging to internet discussion groups (and CERTAINLY not prepping groups!) They're even dropping FaceSpy, which is becoming more and more just parents of the young, who jumped to Instagram. Before you tar with such a wide brush, Verify your facts please.

 

[geoffs]

Here's a link to Harbor Freight coupons on their website; https://www.harborfreight.com/extra-savings.html

If you sign up you get more coupons in your email but you don't have to sign up for the coupons on their site.

 

[Millwright]

Um, "new and younger" people aren't interested in belonging to internet discussion groups (and CERTAINLY not prepping groups!) They're even dropping FaceSpy, which is becoming more and more just parents of the young, who jumped to Instagram. Before you tar with such a wide brush, Verify your facts please.

The broad brush being applied here is yours.

Got some kids in law (20-35) that lurk here some.

They are starting to grasp the prep concept and slowly getting on board.

Potential conservative/prepper types are few in number, it is a small target audience.

 

[20Gauge]

Good to hear ANY discussion in the conservative media about preps.

Even better that it's not an obnoxious persona like Beck or Axle Jones.

IMO, this is a springboard to launch peeps into self sufficiency...or at least entertaining the concept.

Anybody that wasn't born into it has to get a shove from somewhere. Perhaps casual mentions by respected voices will do more of this.

Portraying their own level of preparedness as somewhat modest will not intimidate newcomers. A good way to make them think, "Hey, I can do this".

and " I should do this"

 

[20Gauge]

OMG

Let's play "my preps are bigger then yours".

Howzabouts expanding on the two weeks of food and 30 gal of water....in an affordable way?

The pretense of TB, back in the days of its inception, was to help people get up to speed on prepping.

No wonder we aren't getting many new and younger members who could benefit from the knowledge here

No issue. I'll lurk and not start threads in the future.

 

[Cardinal]

That's my plan during hurricane season. I have a set of batteries on a cart I can wheel around. They power an inverter. During the day I use the generator. At night the battery/inverter combination keeps the fridge running and a couple of breeze fans when it's hot. Two benefits, the generator isn't on at night producing noise and it can be secured inside away from thieves. During off season the batteries maintain charge from solar panels on the shed.

That sounds like something I could do. What sort of batteries, what kind (brand?) of inverter?

 

[Publius]

Batteries are excellent if used in concert with generators. Instead of using generators directly as power sources, use generators to charge batteries and use batteries for power sources. That way, you're not running a 5KW gas generator to continuously power an appliance that only needs maybe 200 watts or so.

His food / water processes are pretty light, though. And I noted that he doesn't have much of a plan to defend it, or at least he's not talking about it, which is either idiocy or genius respectively.

I can see it being a smart move to invest in a small 1200 to 1800 watt generator as it would use less gasoline and likely to be very quiet running too. Also you can pick it up move it by your self.
We have a 8000 watt and setup to run almost everything in the house including the well pump and hot water heater.
I also have far more water from our own well stored away than he is talking about.

 

[Garryowen]

Having five cases of water is prudent, but isn't going to go as far as one might think. I would hope Mr. Howard also has some set aside for flushing the toilet, cooking, and some washing, or maybe he has another source nearby, which would be optimum. Our source is about a mile and a half away, but it's a spring and doesn't need much filtration. Probably for most of us, being ready to get by without utilities rather than trying to replace them is the most practical and cost-effective approach.

 

[Sandune]

That sounds like something I could do. What sort of batteries, what kind (brand?) of inverter?

I had a thread last year on this: http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?524531-Looking-for-inverter-recommendations&highlight=

I found the Vertamax 1500 Watt pure sine wave to work well. The batteries are about toast so I'm thinking strongly about those lipo suggested above. A set of golf cart batteries may work also.

 

[Blacknarwhal]

I can see it being a smart move to invest in a small 1200 to 1800 watt generator as it would use less gasoline and likely to be very quiet running too. Also you can pick it up move it by your self.
We have a 8000 watt and setup to run almost everything in the house including the well pump and hot water heater.
I also have far more water from our own well stored away than he is talking about.

I wondered about that. How long it would take to completely recharge marine deep cycle batteries.

 

[Publius]

I wondered about that. How long it would take to completely recharge marine deep cycle batteries.

Some variables involved like the size of the battery and how badly discharged it is! So at a 6 amp-hour charge rate may take anywhere from 4 to 9 hours to fully recharge a 12V deep cycle battery, a new battery thats drained will take a charge faster and may only take 4 to 5 hours at that charge rate, and somewhat less time if only half discharged.

 

[Countrymouse]

My fault.... no link... he was talking on the radio. If you want 93.7 am in SE Georgia.

clark Howard's "home" station is WSB in Atlanta, Ga.

In fact, his HOME is in Atlanta, Ga.

He is anything BUT an alarmist, paranoid, or 'hair-on-fire' type of guy---in fact, in some things he's TOO laid-back, I think (such as how casually he handled the news he has prostate cancer, some YEARS ago, taking a "watchful waiting" approach per his Dr.'s advice)

His show is no longer on the air IN THE DAYTIME in Atlanta, ever since the new producer / management after Neal Boortz left have been increasing trying to "turn" the station to more liberal / progressive / RINO talk-show hosts; they've cut Herman Cain down to 1 hour a day, split Hannity into TWO timeslots separated by RINO Erick Erickson's show and uber-liberal Mark Arum; put most of their TRUE conservative hosts on LATE at night (like after 1 am), and have relegated Clark's show to an evening spot. (I'm sure the only reason they don't drop Rush is he probably had an IRONCLAD contract that would sue the pants off them if they cut his hours).

That said--

IF YOU WANT TO HEAR CLARK'S SHOW FROM TODAY, TUNE IN TO WSB RADIO TONIGHT (www.wsbradio.com) CLICK ON THE "LISTEN LIVE" OPTION, AND YOU CAN HEAR HIM FROM 10 PM - 12 midnight EASTERN DAYLIGHT TIME.

 

[Thinwater]

Clark Howard does not try and sell anything, ever and does not do commercials like all the other big guys do. He says he has to have no financial interest in the advice he gives for it to remain legitimate. Glenn Beck and others are always trying to sell Wise foods or "Patriot supply", or whoever paid them the latest time to do a commercial for them. That is OK and a legit way to make money but not done for the consumer.

Clarks warning was a new level for him. He did not go all woo woo but did mention the current issues with Russia and their potential to hack our utilities. For someone that is a total believer in "The system" this is huge.

He normally just gives advice on not getting scammed, saving money and getting cheap tickets at airlines etc...

 

[Terrwyn]

Pardon me if I scoff at 2 weeks water and food but lots of luck with that.

 

[Ractivist]

Here's a link to Harbor Freight coupons on their website; https://www.harborfreight.com/extra-savings.html

If you sign up you get more coupons in your email but you don't have to sign up for the coupons on their site.

You do realize harbor freight is one of the battle fronts on the economic war on America by the Chinese. Flooding our nation with tools, impacting the American hardware stores and manufacturers. i suspect they pay nothing in shipping charges, likely paid by the government. Buy American, if possible.

 

[Blacknarwhal]

Pardon me if I scoff at 2 weeks water and food but lots of luck with that.

Why would you scoff? He's better prepared than like half of America is.

 

[Racing22]

I wondered about that. How long it would take to completely recharge marine deep cycle batteries.

You should recharge them at a rate of 1/10 their amp hour rating. So a 100 AH deep cycle battery should be charged at a 10 amp rate. You can bump that up for a quicker charge rate. Also, you should try and not discharge it below 50%, if possible.

I use the deep cycle battery system with my generator. I run lights and electronics off of an inverter, and only power up the generator to recharge batteries, run the fridges, and if needed, cycle the furnace. With this system, I only have to cycle the generator 3 or 4 times a day for like a hour or so each time.

 

[Profit of Doom]

OMG

Let's play "my preps are bigger then yours".

Howzabouts expanding on the two weeks of food and 30 gal of water....in an affordable way?

The pretense of TB, back in the days of its inception, was to help people get up to speed on prepping.

No wonder we aren't getting many new and younger members who could benefit from the knowledge here

Let’s whip ‘em out on the table and measure ‘em?

In post #5 I have a link to another radio show that outlines a month for 4 with simple locally available foods, for supposedly $400, or $25/week/person. I’m using it as the basis for our extended family.