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Dash

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Chinese student to face criminal charges for voting in Michigan. Ballot will apparently count

Chinese student to face criminal charges for voting in Michigan. Ballot will apparently count​

A University of Michigan student who is from China and not a U.S. citizen allegedly voted Sunday in Ann Arbor and is being charged with two crimes, six days before a pivotal presidential election.

The filing of the charges was revealed Wednesday in a statement from Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson's office and the Washtenaw County Prosecutor's office. The press release didn't identify the student but described him only as "a non-U.S. citizen."

The 19-year-old individual from China was legally present in the United States but not a citizen, which meant he couldn't legally cast a ballot, according to information from the Michigan Secretary of State's office. He registered to vote on Sunday using his UM student identification and other documentation establishing residency in Ann Arbor, he signed a document identifying himself as a U.S. citizen and his ballot was entered into a tabulator, according to the Secretary of State's office.

The ballot was cast at an early voting site at the University of Michigan Museum of Art on State Street, according to the Ann Arbor city administrator.

Later, the UM student voter contacted the local clerk's office, asking if he could somehow get his ballot back, according to Benson's office.

The student's ballot is expected to count in the upcoming election — although it was illegally cast — because there is no way for election officials to retrieve it once it's been put through a tabulator, according to two sources familiar with Michigan election laws. The setup is meant to prevent ballots from being tracked back to an individual voter.

"We’re grateful for the swift action of the clerk in this case, who took the appropriate steps and referred the case to law enforcement," said a joint statement from the offices of Benson and Washtenaw County Prosecutor Eli Savit. "We are also grateful to law enforcement for swiftly and thoroughly investigating this case.

"Anyone who attempts to vote illegally faces significant consequences, including but not limited to arrest and prosecution."

The person is being charged with perjury — making a false statement on an affidavit for the purpose of securing voter registration — and being an unauthorized elector who attempted to vote. The latter allegation is a felony punishable by up to four years behind bars and a fine of up to $2,000, according to Michigan law. The standard penalty for perjury in Michigan is 15 years in prison, but it's unclear what it would be in this case involving lying on an application to vote.

In a message to the Ann Arbor City Council members, obtained by The Detroit News, Milton Dohoney Jr., the city’s administrator, said there had been an instance of “potential voter fraud in Ann Arbor” involving a University of Michigan student who’s a green card holder.

“Through a series of actions, the student was apparently able to register, receive a ballot and cast a vote,” Dohoney wrote in an email Monday. “Based upon the scenario that we’re hearing this morning, the student was fully aware of what he was doing, and that it was not legal.”

Dohoney acknowledged in the email that the story might get “picked up by the regional or perhaps national media.”

Under a 2018 ballot proposal that voters approved with 67% support, people can register to vote in Michigan up to and including on Election Day. Proof of residency for voting can include a driver's license, state identification card, a utility bill or university records, according to the Secretary of State's website.

The statement from the Secretary of State's website and the Washtenaw County Prosecutor's office described voting by non-U.S. citizens as "an extremely isolated and rare event."

"Let this much be clear: Voting records are public," the statement added. "Any noncitizen who attempts to vote fraudulently in Michigan will be exposing themselves to great risk and will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel, the state's top law enforcement official, said her office had launched an independent, parallel investigation into the voter fraud allegation in Ann Arbor.

"It is the responsibility of each and every resident of this state and nation to adhere to the law, and Michigan election law makes clear that non-citizens cannot vote in our elections," Nessel said. "We take all allegations of voter fraud extremely seriously, and the public should expect nothing less."

In 2012, during a legal fight over Michigan's voter application requiring individuals to attest their U.S. citizenship under penalty of perjury, then-Republican Secretary of State Ruth Johnson's office said there was evidence of two instances in which Canadians had voted in Michigan elections using state-issued driver's licenses to register.

The presidential race in Michigan between Republican former President Donald Trump and Democratic Vice President Kamala Harris is expected to be close. Some experts have predicted it could come down to tens of thousands of votes.

In 2020, Trump lost Michigan to Democrat Joe Biden by 154,188 votes or about 3 percentage points, 48%-51%. After that election, the Republican maintained false or unproven claims that widespread voter fraud influenced the outcome in Michigan. However, bipartisan canvassing boards, a series of court rulings and an investigation by the GOP-controlled state Senate Oversight Committee all upheld the result.

But the accusations about the 2020 election have helped to prompt heightened scrutiny over the 2024 vote.

In recent weeks, Elon Musk, a prominent Trump supporter who has been described as the world's richest man, has been posting on social media about Michigan's voter rolls. And during a rally in Oakland County on Saturday, Trump called Michigan's early voting system "ridiculous" and voiced support for people having "prove" they were U.S. citizens before casting ballots.

"There's bad stuff going on," Trump contended.

Michigan voters approved a ballot proposal in 2022 to provide a right in the state Constitution for at least nine days of early, in-person voting. That amendment passed with 60% support.

The Michigan Secretary of State's website says in every state, "only U.S. citizens are eligible to register to vote or cast a ballot in any state or federal election."

"There is no evidence to support claims that large numbers of noncitizens have voted in past elections or are registering to vote in 2024," the Secretary of State's website says.
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
Query the student who he voted for "Under oath."

When the totals are announced "adjust" what the totals reflect WITHOUT his entry.

Yes, this "reveals" his vote - but his vote "doesn't count" anyway, and as a non-citizen, he his not entitled to the protection of anonymity in his voting.

THEN deport his posterior along with the rest of him.

Dobbin
 

Hammer

Veteran Member
Query the student who he voted for "Under oath."

When the totals are announced "adjust" what the totals reflect WITHOUT his entry.

Yes, this "reveals" his vote - but his vote "doesn't count" anyway, and as a non-citizen, he his not entitled to the protection of anonymity in his voting.

THEN deport his posterior along with the rest of him.

Dobbin
And if he says under Oath that he voted for Trump, they take a Trump vote away and he doubles his impact. +1 for Harris, -1 for Trump. And no way for the government to prove he lied.
 

BornFree

Came This Far
And it appears that the only way they got caught was because they asked for their ballot back. I am betting that no one would have checked otherwise. This is why citizenship needs to be checked at the time of registration. I also going to guess that there are many others who did the same thing and will never be caught.
 

CTFIREBATTCHIEF

Veteran Member
try him and if convicted of the crime, sentence him to the maximum sentence allowed by law, once he has served that sentence, revoke green card status and immediately deport to his home country ,with the cost of incarceration and transportation back to his home country coming out of any assets said country holds in the US.
 

anna43

Veteran Member
And don't forget all those who vote whose addresses are Forest Lawn, Rose Hill etc.

I really want to see those committing voter fraud sentenced to maximum penalties in very public trials so as to discourage any future attempts. It is so sad that so many are willing to destroy our country for their own selfish reasons.
 

Masterchief117

I'm all about the doom
This is why i hate the " dont worry it will be settled in court" thought process, while its being settled the damage is being done or has been already, nothing is ever rectified.
EXACTLY!! Traffic cops violating your rights, voter fraud, loss of job due to "mandates", or whatever it is, it's Wrong and should not happen, to be settled later.
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
I'd bet dollars over donuts, many University professors make the path way to an illegal vote clear, easily understood, and promote, not to worry, nothing bad will come of it. Plus, you get extra credit for doing so....

University students should not be voting out of state, another loophole, as they likely vote in multiple states, for the extra credits with their leftist professors.
 

Squid

Veteran Member
Michigan…

Oh the Michigan with twice the number of votes cast than voters who have voted, That Michigan.

The same Michigan that can’t dis regard one vote because ‘they can’t’ yet we are supposed to believe them when they say they can on the multiple votes cast, That Michigan…

You mean Whitmer’s Michigan????

Yeah right…
 

ShyGirl

Veteran Member
The only reason he got caught (and the other side got caught) was because he got cold feet and tried to get his ballot back. Now I understand all of those ads warning about everyone knowing when you vote. I couldn't figure out why they sounded so threatening. Now I know. They were meant to flush out some weak illegals who did the wrong thing, got scared and ask for their ballot to not count. Most of the non-citizen voting won't be caught because the voting officials won't look for it. Now they just will pass this off as a one time thing that rarely happens. What rarely happens is the non-citizen asking for their ballot back.
 

ShyGirl

Veteran Member
I'm not shocked that he voted, I'm livid that he was able to register to vote.
I am happy that the guy had second thoughts and asked for his ballot back. At least it made it into the public light. All along we have been saying that you need to have ID that proved you were a citizen, like a check box or different colored license. Read the other thread about the threatening ads in Michigan saying everyone will know you voted. I'll bet this guy got worried about what he did and that is why he narked on himself. Maybe the ads are working. This guy gave up a lot to cast that vote. Why? He may be fined, jailed and probably kicked out of school and maybe the country. The answer to that question could lead to finding who talked him into doing it. We are fighting back.
 

Taco Salad

Contributing Member
And don't forget all those who vote whose addresses are Forest Lawn, Rose Hill etc.

I really want to see those committing voter fraud sentenced to maximum penalties in very public trials so as to discourage any future attempts. It is so sad that so many are willing to destroy our country for their own selfish reasons.
We need severe penalties along with immediate deportation for the criminal and their family if non citizens and any citizens commiting voter fraud should be stripped of citizenship and deported to North Korea.
 
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