INTL Chinese database detailing ‘breedready’ status of millions of women discovered by researcher

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I mentioned a few months ago on a China birthrate thread that I was afriad the next step might be for China to start forcing young women and girls to have babies "for the party" if people didn't voluntarily increase the size of their families..I'm not buying the dating site data base for a moment...I think "breed ready" says it all - Melodi

Chinese database detailing ‘breedready’ status of millions of women discovered by researcher
Public cache of information includes phone numbers, addresses and ages of millions of women


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A Chinese database listing the name, phone numbers and addresses of 1.8 million women including those with a “breedready” status has been uncovered by a Dutch researcher.

Victor Gevers, an internet expert from the non-profit group GDI Foundation, found the insecure data cache while searching for open databases in China.

As well as indicating whether the women were of child-bearing age, the database also included information labelled in English for sex, age, education, marital status.



The average age of women in the database was 32, with the youngest being 15, he said. Nearly 90 per cent of included entries were described single and 82 per cent were listed as living in Beijing.


Sharing a series of screenshots of the public database on Twitter, Mr Gevers suggested it could be could be linked to China’s falling birth rate. Many couples are reluctant to have children due to high property prices and soaring healthcare and education costs.

He expressed his concerns about how far the government is willing to go to influence women to reproduce.


Mr Gevers told The Guardian: “More than this, we don’t have at the moment. Our primary concern is that it gets secured asap.”

The investigator said he had started contacting some of those whose profile pages were linked to shed light on some of the information.



However, some people have suggested the cache could be a database for an online dating site.

“All single ... Must be a dating site like Jiayuan.com,” one person noted.

His discovery comes weeks after China's statistics bureau revealed that China’s birth rate had fallen to its lowest level in decades.

It stood at 10.94 per thousand in 2018, compared to 12.43 per thousand in 2017, meaning 2 million fewer babies were born in China last year. This was the lowest it has been since records began.

With life expectancy increasing, almost a quarter of the country’s population is expected to be over the age of 65 by 2040. Experts warned the population could “fall drastically” in the future without efforts to increase fertility.

“The year 2018 will be remembered as a historical turning point for Chinese population,” a new paper by researcher Dr Yi and Peking University economist Su Jian said.

“The Chinese population has started to fall, the ageing problems have accelerated, and economic vitality has weakened,” they said.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-database-breedready-women-research-a8817131.html
 

Luddite

Veteran Member
I thought that was the reason for tinder here. :D

It takes two. (Or it took two until recently).

This data sheet is useless without the game-plan for implementation. (Don't explain or draw me any pics) You know what I mean.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
All kidding aside, I think the "game plan" started with the "breedable" database; if history is anything to go buy first there will be an attempt to get people married and younger than is now usual for China, then there will be "perks" for having babies.

If that fails (and it probably will) and the sticks fail too (which they probably will) then the list will come out and anyone on it will get their "marching orders."

It may not happen exactly like that or in that order, but when other dictatorships have wanted babies and quickly there has been a tendency to both encourage marriage and at the same time remove the stigma from single-motherhood.

This time China is running up against the simple economic fact that children are no longer economic assets for most people; the same thing happened in ancient Rome and NOTHING the Emporers did ever result in an increase in the Roman Citizen population.

From the working classes to the Aristocracy Roman families continued to limit the size of their families (usually though infanticide, though they also had a now extinct plant that was pretty effective for birth control).

It didn't matter how many taxes they had to pay or how many benefits they missed out on; the majority of families stayed small because it was economically more viable for them to do so.

Like today there were exceptions and the poor tended to have more children than the rich because of their higher infant mortality and need for old-age security coming from their children rather than their bank accounts.

Neither the NAZI's or the Soviets had much luck with this either - China may be able to pull it off as they have such tight social control but they may not like the long-term results.
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
I thought they were more worried about down sizing their population to pre world war two numbers, so are about get what they wanted in about fifteen to twenty years.
 

Faroe

Un-spun
I thought they were more worried about down sizing their population to pre world war two numbers, so are about get what they wanted in about fifteen to twenty years.

That was the "80's; this is now. They discovered that they could control their diaspora, so they could basically migrate and colonize the entire world. They can take advantage of the wealth and creativity of the West, and the vast space of Africa. You need LOTS of people to do that.

Also, I expect the women listed in the data base are considered genetically desirable. The government could just harvest the eggs, but they would still have to find competent people to raise the kids. However, they may be planning to freeze the eggs for long term storage (radiation, and all). The Chinese have NO problem with eugenics. Can be a good thing, but mixed bag from the perspective of Western ethics.
 

ArisenCarcass

Veteran Member
That was the "80's; this is now. They discovered that they could control their diaspora, so they could basically migrate and colonize the entire world. They can take advantage of the wealth and creativity of the West, and the vast space of Africa. You need LOTS of people to do that.

Also, I expect the women listed in the data base are considered genetically desirable. The government could just harvest the eggs, but they would still have to find competent people to raise the kids. However, they may be planning to freeze the eggs for long term storage (radiation, and all). The Chinese have NO problem with eugenics. Can be a good thing, but mixed bag from the perspective of Western ethics.

Mix this post with the thread about artificial wombs and there is a great, hopefully never realized, dystopic story about eugenics and Chinese world hegemony.
 
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