CORONA Chinese Biological Experiments To Infect Humans With Coronavirus Exposed In 2015 By Italian State Media

Blacknarwhal

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Chinese Biological Experiments To Infect Humans With Coronavirus Exposed In 2015 By Italian State Media

Authored by Guido Taietti via GreatGameIndia.com,

Five years ago, Italian state owned media Company, Rai – Radiotelevisione Italiana, exposed dark efforts by China on viruses. The video, which was broadcast in November, 2015, showed how Chinese scientists were doing biological experiments on a SARS connected virus believed to be Coronavirus, derived from bats and mice, asking whether it was worth the risk in order to be able to modify the virus for compatibility with human organisms.

Below is a transcription of the Italian broadcast translated in English...




Chinese Biological Experiments

Chinese scientists have created a pulmonary supervirus from bats and mice only for study reasons but there are many questionable aspects to this. Is it worth the risk? It’s an experiment, of course, but it is worrisome. It worries many scientists: It is a group of Chinese researchers attaching a protein taken from bats to the SARS virus, Acute Pneumonia, derived from mice. The output is a super coronavirus that could affect man. It remains closed in laboratories and it is only for study purposes, but is it worth the risk – creating such a great threat only for examination purposes?

The debate about the risks of research is as old as science itself. Like the myth of Icarus, who plunged from the Sky and perished in the sea, having gone too close to the Sun with the wings of wax designed by his father!

Chinese scientists experiment on SARS virus to infect humans. Rai – Radiotelevisione Italiana

Here is an experiment in China, in which a group of scientists has managed to develop a chimera – an organism modified by attaching the surface protein of a coronavirus found in bats of the common species called the Great Horseshoe Bat, to a virus that causes SARS in mice, although in a non-fatal form. It was suspected that the protein could make the chimeric hybrid organism suitable for affecting humans, and the experiment confirmed it.



It is precisely this molecule, called SHCO14, that allows the coronavirus to attach itself to our respiratory cells and to trigger the syndrome. According to researchers, the two organisms, the original and even more so the engineered one, can infect humans directly from bats, without going through an intermediate species like the mouse, and it is this eventuality that raises many controversies.

Just one year ago (this broadcast is of 2015), the U.S. government suspended research funding, which aimed to make viruses more contagious. The moratorium did not stop the work of the Chinese on SARS, which was already in advanced stages and looked relatively harmless.

According to a section of the scientific community, it is in fact not dangerous. The probability that the virus may pass to our species was insignificant compared to the benefits of the virus – an argument that many other experts rejected. First, because the relationship between risk and benefit is difficult to evaluate and second, because especially in these times, it is more prudent to not put into circulation an organism that can escape or be removed from the control of laboratories.

As soon that this broadcast went viral on the Italian social media, journalists and experts began explaining it away saying, that the virus in the video was not COVID-19. Even the British journal Nature, which wrote the very publication this Italian show was based on, clarified that the virus the broadcast talked about was not related to the “Natural” COVID-19.

However, that is beside the point. This is not to say that the viruses are literally the same. This is to say that the information presented in the video is consistent with the information that China is doing a lot of research on bioweapons, and that the impact of the virus in the broadcast has a lot in common with mainstream information about the symptoms of COVID-19.


The central monitor room at China’s National Bio-safety Laboratory. Nature
Moreover, Nature itself had done a piece in February, 2017, on the BSL-4 laboratory in Wuhan, the Wuhan Institute of Virology, raising valid concerns and theories, and wondering out loud whether experimentation with deadly viruses was a good idea.
“BSL-4 is the highest level of bio-containment: its criteria include filtering air and treating water and waste before they leave the laboratory, and stipulating that researchers change clothes and shower before and after using lab facilities. Such labs are often controversial….
Future plans include studying the pathogen that causes SARS, which also doesn’t require a BSL-4 lab, before moving on to Ebola and the West African Lassa virus, which do… Worries surround the Chinese lab… The SARS virus has escaped from high-level containment facilities in Beijing multiple times… The plan to expand into a network heightens such concerns. One BSL-4 lab in Harbin is already awaiting accreditation; the next two are expected to be in Beijing and Kunming.”
In January, 2020, Nature then sheepishly added an editor’s note to the top of the article, saying that there is in fact “no evidence” of this lab playing a role in the outbreak of coronavirus and that scientists believe that the source is likely “an animal market.”

Meanwhile, the Italian scientists at Milan University are investigating whether the coronavirus outbreak actually began in Italy in the last quarter of 2019. Milan and Lodi cities of Lombardy administrative region reported a “significant” increase in the number of people hospitalized for pneumonia and flu in October and December of 2019. Meanwhile, amidst worldwide criticism, a $20 trillion lawsuit has been filed against China for waging Biological war using Coronavirus.
 

Meadowlark

Has No Life - Lives on TB
there is a graphic I would love to include that connects many of the dots outlined above. However, it is too large to upload. I will bring to your attention however, the recent and convenient death of a covid researcher Dr Plummer. A most convenient coincidence. I am more and more convinced this was a bioweapon attack, not designed to kill a lot of people, but to keep Trump from being reelected.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
there is a graphic I would love to include that connects many of the dots outlined above. However, it is too large to upload. I will bring to your attention however, the recent and convenient death of a covid researcher Dr Plummer. A most convenient coincidence. I am more and more convinced this was a bioweapon attack, not designed to kill a lot of people, but to keep Trump from being reelected.

Can you link it? We can go see it if it's somewhere else.
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
I am more convinced than ever that the virus escaped from one of the two labs in Wuhan rather than being intentional warfare, but the virus may have been artificially created, can some biologist confirm that it could have been created or not, or maybe it was found in their experiments on bats and mice.

Strange that Italy is the most affected country, retribution maybe or some kind of connection here.
 
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Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
I am more convinced than ever that the virus escaped from one of the two labs in Wuhan rather than being intentional warfare, but the virus may have been artificially created, can some biologist confirm that it could have been created or not, or maybe it was found in their experiments on bats and mice.

Strange that Italy is the most affected country, retribution maybe or some kind of connection here.

The situation in Italy is more of a case of the perfect storm than anything else...
 
Only for study purposes my inflamed hemorrhoids! They also keep their plutonium only for religious purposes.
Chinese Communist have no problem murdering millions to achieve their political goals on this earth.
Just exactly like Democrats (pelosi, schumer aoc, and the whole lot and whackjob Hollywood elite and on).
 
I am more convinced than ever that the virus escaped from one of the two labs in Wuhan rather than being intentional warfare, but the virus may have been artificially created, can some biologist confirm that it could have been created or not, or maybe it was found in their experiments on bats and mice.

Strange that Italy is the most affected country, retribution maybe or some kind of connection here.
Lots of chinese workers in Italian factoreis
 

zeda1

Senior Member
If this virus was out in late October/ early November than what were seeing in Italy could be the second wave, like the Spanish flu. It was the second wave that killed the millions.
 

Trivium Pursuit

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Smoking gun, much? Combine with Chi Haotian's speech, and you have the perfect recipe. I say it's time to pinpoint that island that the leadership are at, and send forth some of the "rods from God". We would not only be protecting ourselves, but I think doing the entire planet a big service.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Smoking gun, much? Combine with Chi Haotian's speech, and you have the perfect recipe. I say it's time to pinpoint that island that the leadership are at, and send forth some of the "rods from God". We would not only be protecting ourselves, but I think doing the entire planet a big service.

Lot of people that I've been able to see think that China is now a pariah nation. Might be everybody's enemy before too much longer here.
 

Trivium Pursuit

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Lot of people that I've been able to see think that China is now a pariah nation. Might be everybody's enemy before too much longer here.
I dare say they already were everybody's enemy. Is just that now, there's enough evidence that "Everybody" Is finally starting to figure that out.
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
We've known the fact it was a bio weapon when India's scientists said it was cut with and HIV Aids genome. This side of impossible to have happened by chance. They shut China down with just two thousand deaths.....for a flu, not a chance.

Russia put the blame on the US, saying we did it. Which is stating that they believe the US put a bio logical weapon in the market place of China. An act of war. Then china started telling it's people this, I'm sure they believe it, without a doubt.

Then XI and Trump took turns saying the other guy did this. Which is basically stating it's a bio weapon.

I see two basic results on a geo political scale. Either China does attack us at our weakest point, physically and economically.
Or, the rhetoric will get us there, world war.

Add twenty dollar oil, and tempers are flaring all over the place, as economies collapse.

Perhaps they strike when our people are rioting in the streets in magnitude.....so many dominoes could fall, all opening the way to more chains of dominoes. I do not see any way the world returns to any sense of normalcy. Lots of folks are gonna freak as it plays out, that part is for sure. I find myself shaking my head....sad
 

Green Co.

Administrator
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I do believe it was engineered by man. Whether round-eye or slant-eye I have no idea. I do, again, believe that many nations, including ours, were tampering with coronovirus's.
 

Bps1691

Veteran Member
I am more convinced than ever that the virus escaped from one of the two labs in Wuhan rather than being intentional warfare, but the virus may have been artificially created, can some biologist confirm that it could have been created or not, or maybe it was found in their experiments on bats and mice.

Strange that Italy is the most affected country, retribution maybe or some kind of connection here.

The Chinese OWN Italy.

  • Hundreds of thousands of Chinese immigrants now live both legally and illegally in Italy, with 300K legally registered and many more illegal.
  • Italy recently entered into a new economic partnership with China called “One belt, One road”
  • China has revitalized northern Italian ports in order to transport goods more efficiently to the rest of Europe
  • The mayor of Florence initiated a social media campaign called “Hug a Chinese” using Chinese produced video as an engine to dispel the “racism” against the Chinese in Italy

Thirty years ago, Italy saw the beginnings of what would become a serious issue with illegal immigration. What was surprising, was that the immigrants couldn’t just walk over a border to enter the country, they had to flock from China. It began with Italians hiring the Chinese off the books at cheap wages to work making garments in towns and villages renowned for their craftmanship, and morphed into Italians seeing the Chinese learn how to do it faster and cheaper; often times watching as their family owned businesses were shuttered because they were outbid. The Chinese took over the Italian craft and made it their own.

 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Smoking gun, much? Combine with Chi Haotian's speech, and you have the perfect recipe. I say it's time to pinpoint that island that the leadership are at, and send forth some of the "rods from God". We would not only be protecting ourselves, but I think doing the entire planet a big service.

Can you say W76-2?
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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If it is engineered. It would be the like 9/11. Maybe not.

So if it is like 9/11 are we going to Surrender Monkey to the Chinese too? How will our Islamic Master feel about that?
 

byronandkathy2003

Veteran Member
there is a graphic I would love to include that connects many of the dots outlined above. However, it is too large to upload. I will bring to your attention however, the recent and convenient death of a covid researcher Dr Plummer. A most convenient coincidence. I am more and more convinced this was a bioweapon attack, not designed to kill a lot of people, but to keep Trump from being reelected.
i would not be surprised if it is found out the dems are in on it also..
look at what piglousy is trying to do now she and the dems may be working with china to get rid of president trump..
after all you know he has pissed off the dems and china..
 

vector7

Dot Collector
Lot of people that I've been able to see think that China is now a pariah nation. Might be everybody's enemy before too much longer here.
Watch what they do, not what they say. There's a reason they've historically always supported the Norks.
 

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
I am more convinced than ever that the virus escaped from one of the two labs in Wuhan rather than being intentional warfare, but the virus may have been artificially created, can some biologist confirm that it could have been created or not, or maybe it was found in their experiments on bats and mice.

Strange that Italy is the most affected country, retribution maybe or some kind of connection here.

I actually get ^^^this,^^^ because if you ‘out’ a virus for WHO he is, he just might seek retribution

Two words sets that will be synonymous from here on out in meme.

?COVID-Nineteen WHO’s Virus.

And for the record. War has always been a constant, with short durations of plausibility as a distraction to disarm on the part of a cunning enemy.

Scotty to sick bay. The Enterprise has a cough. No Bone’s about it! The Enterprise will be two full years behind schedule (2025 -NOW-2027) due to the oversight of this committee, who also looks to never have more than 12 aircraft carriers in service.

Why L.A.B. ... That’s just rash thinking!

No, that’s not a rash, that’s a swarm of dot’s coming into focus.





Mary B. Mazanec, Director Congressional Research Service
Dr. Mary Mazanec was named the Director of CRS in December, 2011. She joined CRS in August of 2010 as the Deputy Director and prior to her appointment by the Librarian as Director, she served as Acting Director from April to December, 2011.
Before joining CRS, Dr. Mazanec worked at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) in several positions including Deputy Assistant Secretary and the Director of the Office of Medicine, Science and Public Health in the Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response and Director of the Division of Public Health Services in the Office of the Assistant Secretary for Planning and Evaluation at HHS. Her areas of focus included public health, domestic and international emergency preparedness, biosecurity, pandemic flu planning and health promotion and disease prevention.
Dr. Mazanec also served as a senior policy analyst at the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission (MedPAC). Prior to her tenure at
MedPAC, she was a Robert Wood Johnson Health Policy Fellow, serving as a senior advisor for the Subcommittee of Public Health, Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions. Prior to her government career, Dr. Mazanec was an associate professor of medicine and pathology at Case Western Reserve University (CWRU), where she directed an NIH-funded biomedical research program. In addition, she practiced pulmonary medicine at University Hospitals of Cleveland and at the Louis Stokes VA Medical Center.
Dr. Mazanec received a BS from the University of Notre Dame and an MD and JD from CWRU. She completed an internal medicine residency at the University of Michigan and a pulmonary medicine fellowship at CWRU. She is a member of the Ohio State Bar and the District of Columbia bar.

April 2012
 
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hunybee

Veteran Member
of course, one of the theories is that this was made in a lab, and it escaped. meaning, it was not planned (maybe not right now), but it got out when it was not desired.

we assume it meant for mostly the usa (and the "west" in general). i am not saying i believe this, but im just allowing my mind to wander here.....what if it was intended to cull their own population to a more manageable level. much has been made of the fact that their economy has not been that great for a good while now. china has had a lot more interaction/influence/ with the usa and the west. i have read many stories that say that the people have been living a little better...and they like it, and they are bristling at the thought and attempts to stop that. that because the economy has been getting kinda sticky there, they may not be able to keep up their new lifestyles, and there have been push back from the people.

china needs a large population for a fighting force. but...they think of the people as possessions, cattle. any farmer knows that they need to manage their herd well. if they don't, many problems can occur. they must keep them relatively content, at least enough that they won't start be too difficult to handle. they need to have a herd that is of a size that they have enough food for. they need the types of animals to be healthy and not bee too old. the herd needs to be big enough, but small enough. they need to be useful. they need to be manageable.

what if this was not meant so much for the west, but for their own "herd". of course, there would be spill over to the neighbors' herds, but that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for them. like THEY could take the hit and be better for it, but it would hurt their enemies as well.

but it was not "perfect" yet and got out uncontrolled. thoughts?
 
I am more convinced than ever that the virus escaped from one of the two labs in Wuhan rather than being intentional warfare, but the virus may have been artificially created, can some biologist confirm that it could have been created or not, or maybe it was found in their experiments on bats and mice.

Strange that Italy is the most affected country, retribution maybe or some kind of connection here.
Allegedly, Indian scientist studying the COVID-19 virus stated that it contained an HIV component in its genome, which is not possible (?) likely(?) in nature and was, therefore, engineered/designed this way.


intothegoodnight
 

et2

TB Fanatic
China knew what they had and covered it up as long as they could. They deliberately allowed travel into and out of China during this silence. When the rumors started many countries were told by China not to stop their flights into China or they they would suffer Chinese economic retaliation.

After they couldn’t hide it anymore it was to late. The world was infected. The bastards knew what they were doing. They knew it was going to hurt the USA big time And globally. They blasted a hole in Trumps economy in retaliation for what he did to there’s.
 
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