TERRORISM Chicago BLM Organizer Defends Looting: 'That Is Reparations'

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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www.breitbart.com /politics/2020/08/11/chicago-blm-organizer-defends-looting-reparations/

Chicago BLM Organizer Defends Looting: 'That Is Reparations'
Hannah Bleau
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Black Lives Matter activists in Chicago held a rally Monday evening to stand in solidarity with the dozens of individuals who were arrested after a night of mass looting and criminal activity, with one organizer brazenly defending looting as a form of reparations.

Activists gathered at the South Loop police station on Monday to stand in solidarity with over 100 people who were arrested after a night of violence, destruction, and mass looting erupted within the city. As Breitbart News reported, the looting began after midnight and lasted hours.

Ariel Atkins, a Black Lives Matter organizer who spoke at the rally, said looting is not an issue and defended the criminal practice.

“I don’t care if someone decides to loot a Gucci or a Macy’s or a Nike store, because that makes sure that person eats,” the BLM organizer said. “That makes sure that person has clothes.”

“That is reparations,” she continued, justifying the criminal action and contending that businesses will be fine because they “have insurance.”

“Anything they wanted to take, they can take it because these businesses have insurance,” Atkins said.

A special media post for the rally echoed Atkins’ position, encouraging supporters to come out and “support the people arrested last night for protesting another police shooting & taking reparations from corporations”:

Countless videos on social media show the sheer destruction and criminal behavior as looters took to the streets and, in some instances, livestreamed their shameless criminal acts:

A police-involved shooting, which occurred in the city’s Englewood neighborhood Sunday afternoon, sparked the criminal behavior. According to Chicago Police Superintendent David Brown, the suspect, 20-year-old Latrell Allen, fired at police, prompting officers to return fire, injuring him. He is expected to recover but faces attempted murder charges.

“This person fired shots at our officers,” Brown said. “Officers returned fire and struck the individual.”

“After this shooting, a crowd gathered on the South Side. Following the police action, tempers flared fueled by misinformation,” Brown added.

Some of the misinformation that likely fueled the unrest includes a social media rumor, contending that police gunned down an unarmed black teenager:

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot (D), who failed to protect her city, made it clear that she does not want federal troops in the area. Rather, she wants “common-sense gun control.”

“We cannot continue to have circumstances where anybody and their brother can go across the border, or into other parts of Illinois, and bring illegal guns into the city of Chicago,” she told a reporter.
 

mistaken1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
“We cannot continue to have circumstances where anybody and their brother can go across the border, or into other parts of Illinois, and bring illegal guns into the city of Chicago,” she told a reporter.

But we can continue to have circumstances where anybody and their brother can go out into the streets and loot the city of Chicago.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
iu
 

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
Yet more proof that nigras CANNOT RUN A GOVERNMENT. They don't have the ability to think, evidently.

Your average POS African, has a 70 IQ, basically a moron.

Therefore, they function as savages, killing other savages,
and massively reproducing, exactly the same as the
savages over in the jungles of Africa.

Please be safe everyone. The end arrived on May 25th,
with the martyrdom of the POS Saint George Floyd.

Regards to all.

Nowski
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Ariel Atkins, a Black Lives Matter organizer who spoke at the rally, said looting is not an issue and defended the criminal practice.

“I don’t care if someone decides to loot a Gucci or a Macy’s or a Nike store, because that makes sure that person eats,” the BLM organizer said. “That makes sure that person has clothes.”

“That is reparations,” she continued, justifying the criminal action and contending that businesses will be fine because they “have insurance.”

“Anything they wanted to take, they can take it because these businesses have insurance,” Atkins said.


Um, no.

I work in an insurance office now.

Unless you specifically BUY the insurance that is called "TRIA" (from "Terrorism Risk Insurance Act") you are NOT covered for acts of terrorism.

Furthermore, the "Terrorism Risk Insurance Act" ONLY COVERS FOR RECOGNIZED TERRORIST GROUPS---and currently, no "domestric" groups are "officially" listed or recognized as "terrorist" groups.

So, to get reimbursed for damage to a business from a "terrorist" organization, it would have to be provably done by a terrorist organization from one of the following:


However, there is no such thing as a "DOMESTIC" Terrorist Organization list---nor CAN it be possible to set up such a list---due to First Amendment guarantees on freedom of speech and assembly:

Mary McCord, legal director at Georgetown University Law Center’s Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection and a former Department of Justice official, and Hina Shamsi, the American Civil Liberties Union’s national security project director, made similar statements to the press. “No current legal authority exists for designating domestic organizations as terrorist organizations. Any attempt at such a designation would raise significant First Amendment concerns,” McCord said.


Furthermore, such "domestic terrorist" groups would be required to show a structure---a definite leadership chain-of-command hierarchy, means of determining membership, and proof of support, such as some means of accepting financial or physical support:

The secretary of state has the legal authority to designate groups as foreign terrorist organizations under federal law. The federal government makes those FTO designations through a six-step process involving the State Department and other agencies. The designations enable the federal government to freeze assets, prosecute individuals for aiding those groups and restrict immigration for members of those groups, as the Government Accountability Office explains.

The nonpartisan Congressional Research Service also explained in a 2017 report that the “federal government lacks a process for publicly designating domestic terrorist organizations. In other words, there is no official open-source roster of domestic groups that the FBI or other federal agencies target as terrorist organizations.”


I've always heard that "in the roots of any organization are the seeds to its downfall."

In trying to ensure free speech and expression---and not being able to foresee that ANYONE, EVER, would USE our precious FREEDOMS as a means of returning us to SLAVERY---our Founding Fathers may have given these traitors that "crack in our armor" right here.

(by the way--I normally HATE this site---but my source for the above is, in this case, correct. It's Trump Can't Designate Antifa -- or Any Movement -- Domestic Terrorist Organization)
 

dstraito

TB Fanatic
Defending looting

Okay, lets call it what it is.

Thugs stealing stuff.

You can not sugarcoat it, we are talking about criminals taking things that do not belong to them.

Unfortunately, this seems to be acceptable in areas where morals do not intervene.

It is criminal acts of people that are not pathologically capable telling the difference between right and wrong.


These people should be at a minimum put in jail.
 
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fish hook

Deceased
The mayor said "
Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot (D), who failed to protect her city, made it clear that she does not want federal troops in the area. Rather, she wants “common-sense gun control.

“We cannot continue to have circumstances where anybody and their brother can go across the border, or into other parts of Illinois, and bring illegal guns into the city of Chicago,” she told a reporter.
Maybe we could build a wall.
 

Tripod

Veteran Member
This mindset has been going on for many years. Remember the 10pm news when a nig would get shot dead and the mother would come on the interview and cry and tell everyone he was a good boy and was going to be a doktor? Then she would say if he didn't steal how else would he get the things and money he needs. And the fake news would lap it all up.
Mike
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
The mayor said "
Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot (D), who failed to protect her city, made it clear that she does not want federal troops in the area. Rather, she wants “common-sense gun control.

“We cannot continue to have circumstances where anybody and their brother can go across the border, or into other parts of Illinois, and bring illegal guns into the city of Chicago,” she told a reporter.
Maybe we could build a wall.


Last I saw the videos, they're not USING guns, Mayor Lighthead.

They're using CARS to break down storefronts and run over police officers.

They're using KNIVES to have fights in the streets.

They're using LIGHTERS to set fires.


You planning on outlawing motor vehicles, knives, and cigarette lighters, Mayor Lighthead?
 

Squib

Veteran Member
Well, ok then, I get it...so...

Every father or mother who’s child was beaten, will get pay back and take it out of your hides...

Every man who’s wife or mother was raped...he‘ll take 5 black lives for that heinous act...

Every son or daughter who’s elderly parent is assaulted, robbed, or mutilated....5 black lives...

Every stolen, hard earned dollar taken...will be take back in blood...

Every insult, threat, B&E, theft...black lives will pay back as reparations...

Lets see, if we all go to the reparations system...not many black lives will be around enough to matter!
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
The twitter post on post10 shows a group on the beach. Zoom in and it appears to be almost all gay men. Then reread lightfoots post about behavior. Kinda funny, if not outright gay.
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
Related:



“It’s Just Property.”
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"The suggestion has been made that destroying property, which can be replaced, is not “violence.” Others have suggested that since it’s not “violence” per se, it’s perfectly acceptable as political protest.

Okay, strictly speaking “crimes against property” are not “crimes against persons”–property crimes vs. violent crimes. However, the idea that this makes it a perfectly valid form of political protest is ridiculous.

One thing people bring up is the Boston Tea Party. I have dealt with the Boston Tea Party before and it is in no way comparable to the riot, vandalism, and looting currently going on. In the Boston Tea Party they were organized. They very carefully limited their damage to the specific thing against which they were protesting (the tea of the British East India company which had the backing of the British government). One man who attempted to keep some of the tea for his own use was prevented from doing so. Damage done to property not of the British East India company, specifically a padlock they had to break to gain access to the tea, was replaced the next day. Nobody was hurt and nothing other than the specific target of their protest was damaged. And nobody used it as an excuse to enrich himself by looting.

But let’s address the idea that property is replaceable. The specific items might be replaceable, but what you cannot replace, what no one can replace, is the time and effort, the bits of my own life, that went into obtaining that property. That is gone forever and I can never get it back. So, by destroying or taking that property, what you are doing is taking those bits of my life away, and neither you nor anyone else can ever replace them.

And here’s the thing, the only way I can replace the specific items damaged or taken is by spending more bits of my life to acquire them. They don’t magically reappear by the wave of a hand.

“But…insurance” some will say. The problem there is that insurance. costs. money. More bits of my life spent to “protect” my property from people like you (person in the article linked above). And the more property you damage, the higher the “risk” the insurance companies have to assess, and thus the higher the premiums I have to pay–the more “bits of my life” that have to be spent to protect other bits of my life from you. Mind you, depending on how the risk pools are generated I, personally, might not have to pay the full cost of the increased risk. Other people whose risks weren’t increased may be assessed higher premiums to cover my increased risk caused by people like you. In that case, you’re not taking bits of my life. You’re taking bits of their lives. It’s no better for your case.

“But…government. Government can reimburse the loss.” And once again, that merely changes whose lives you’re taking bits from. Government doesn’t magically create the stuff for reimbursement from nothing. People still have to be put to work producing that stuff. And if government is paying for it, that means people have to be taxed (or worse, the currency inflated) to pay for it. That’s pieces of all those people’s lives taken away because “it’s just property and property can be replaced.”

You might try to salve your conscience by saying that all this activity replacing stuff that’s jobs for lots of people. That’s good for the economy.
Only it isn’t. It’s the Broken window Fallacy.

View: https://youtu.be/UnzUViUOTTo


You see (if you didn’t bother to watch the video, I’ll sum up the conclusion here): All the economic activity that stems from replacing the lost stuff (repairing the broken window in the video), could just as well have stemmed from producing new stuff. We, as a nation, are poorer by the amount of new stuff (and that includes goods and services both) we could have produced with the resources instead used to replace lost stuff. (BTW, the bad guy in The Fifth Element was clearly all-in on the Broken Window Fallacy.)

By rioting, burning, looting, and vandalizing, you are making our people poorer, not just “the wealthy” (however you define that term this week) but everyone. And you are taking not just bits, but big chunks of people’s lives. And how many chunks, between them, add up to a life. Taking a thousand bits from a thousand people, each bit, say, amounting to a mere six weeks of someone’s life (and many of those destroyed businesses amount to a lot more than that)? That’s 115 “life years” you’ve taken. How is that better than taking 115 years from one person? Combined, you’ve stolen a life as surely as if you killed a young child.

So, no, it’s not “just property.” In a very real sense it’s people’s lives."
 
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Jeff B.

Don’t let the Piss Ants get you down…
You know, when I take a minute and think about the many threads that are related to all aspects of the BLM fronted insurgency, I shake my head and wonder how the hell we got here...

IMO, beginning in the 60's, the concessions to the then Democrats and now Radical Progressive Marxists began the death of a thousand cuts. Each minor, but in aggregate, fatal.

That's all. Just a not so random thought for the day.

Jeff B.
 

vestige

Deceased
You know, when I take a minute and think about the many threads that are related to all aspects of the BLM fronted insurgency, I shake my head and wonder how the hell we got here...

IMO, beginning in the 60's, the concessions to the then Democrats and now Radical Progressive Marxists began the death of a thousand cuts. Each minor, but in aggregate, fatal.

That's all. Just a not so random thought for the day.

Jeff B.
I agree 100%
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
A special media post for the rally echoed Atkins’ position
Special Media like that is inflammatory, much akin to yelling "FIRE" in a crowded auditorium, and should be dealt with in the same way.

We wouldn't want anyone arrested in the crush to get first in line for loafers at Gucci's, or get shot by a shop-owner defending his hard earned investment.

Dobbin
 

jazzy

Advocate Discernment
so, in reverse, if someone whose business was looted and burned out destroying his liveihood can loot then burn down the homes and cars of any BLM member for Their reparations? seems fair
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
These tools actually believe their own bullshit.
Yes they do in all honesty.

After my divorce, I was forced to reduce my lifestyle from upper middle class to near homeless (it was homeless for about a week eventually) at one point. The area was southern California. Being in utter poverty I found a job that I was way over qualified for but I needed to eat and rice and beans is fine, I could not afford them.

The job was basically filling mail orders (big thing in 2000) at a company that hired people who barely could keep it together for the day. I was shocked at the attitudes and behavior of the people. For example, instead of using the bathroom, people would simply unzip / drop trouser and use the nearest wall to pee. Seen / heard it happen (they got fired for it) more than once. Their attitude was it was someone else's fault the had to pee on the wall.

Why?

You had all kinds of reasons to the day of the week to some idiot built the bathroom too far away? 50 feet?

The point is they never ever understood they had a responsibility for anything. The same crap applies to the rioters, politicians, etc. who constantly blame others for the "injustices" of the world.

The are 110% of the belief that it IS NOT THEIR FAULT OR RESPONSIBILITY but rather that of others. Management, white people, etc.

The issue we are now facing is that there are large numbers and I mean very large numbers of these people who believe this. So politicians will pander to these people, try and get them to vote and eventually you will have people elected who believe this stuff. The Squad is an example.
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
She is doing a wonderful job of pushing off Whites from Chicongo
 

KFhunter

Veteran Member
How about reparations for burning down our cities? I think they're far more likely to see that come to fruition.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
She is doing a wonderful job of pushing off Whites from Chicongo
Notice all the beach people are white.....

As a county code enforcement officer once told me..... you get the ticket as you will pay it.... she goes after people who will not argue too much with her and will obey.
 

end game

Veteran Member
I going to side with history. If looting and stealing is reparations to them then "action" taken to stop that is payback for what was done to whites in South Africa, Zimbabwe, and here in the United States.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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This isn’t about looting or property damage actually. It’s about the installation of Communism as the US government. It’s about an American Bolshevik revolution. That cannot be achieved without mass chaos. That’s the goal. These stories are simply manifestations of the revolution.
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
Too long to post whole thing; a libtard glorifies mass looting:

Excerpt:


08/25/2020
Are Looters Undermining The Movement — Or Creating It?
Vicky Osterweil’s “In Defense of Looting” makes the case that looting isn’t a betrayal of protests for Black lives, but a vital aspect of the movement.

By Claire Fallon

Vicky Osterweil's new book, In Defense of Looting, is a both a history of American looting and an argument for its value.


BOOKSVicky Osterweil’s new book, “In Defense of Looting,” is a both a history of American looting and an argument for its value.

Windows smashed and vehicles set ablaze; government building doors shattered; cops blanketing protesters in tear gas: Kenosha, Wisconsin, has become the latest battleground between police and protesters resisting state violence toward Black people. The uprising broke out after police shot 29-year-old Jacob Blake seven times in the back, in front of three of his children, on Sunday night.

This summer’s wave of protests following the killing of George Floyd by a Minneapolis police officer had barely gotten underway when the condemnation started. As police precincts burned and protesters smashed store windows, the public conversation quickly turned away from the horror of anti-Black violence toward the horror of property destruction. On the right, of course, invocations of law and order were swift. But pundits and politicians on the left, while unwilling to openly critique Black Lives Matter protests, concern-trolled about white anarchists and outside agitators undermining the movement with their reckless violence.

For Vicky Osterweil, author of the new book In Defense of Looting: A Riotous History of Uncivil Action,” the sentiment was deeply predictable. Riots and property damage, she argues, are often erased from the accepted history of protest movements, including the 1960s civil rights movement, while nonviolence is held up as both more effective and more righteous. This year has been no exception.

In a conversation with HuffPost in July, Osterweil pointed out that the standard line of criticism has continued despite popular sympathy with rioters. According to one poll released in June, the burning of Minneapolis’ 3rd precinct was considered at least partially justified by a majority of Americans. “If those riots hadn’t spread to every major city and many smaller ones across the country, would there be this much constant activity, these protests which give the people who critique looting the opportunity to say, ‘It’s not the point of the movement’?” Osterweil said.

“In Defense of Looting” was born out of the protests in Ferguson, Missouri, in 2014 and 2015. “This book only exists because the rebels in Ferguson showed us all the way,” Osterweil told HuffPost. She observed the uprising in the streets, and the media narrative that quickly arose — the condemnations of property damage, the tsk-tsking about how scenes of looting would surely turn the public against those protesting in defense of Black lives — and wrote a stirring rebuttal in the New Inquiry. Looting, she argued, has been “one of the most righteous anti-white supremacist tactics available” in America. Her argument reaches back to the foundations of the country, and the establishment of slavery as a system under which white people held property and Black people were property, and could find freedom by “stealing” themselves. It extends to the recent past, examining the necessity of riots and looting to Black civil rights movements in the 1960s and the 2010s.

“The last few months of movement have exceeded any possible imagination of mine, frankly,” she said. “We’re living through a truly unprecedented and historic social movement right now.”

In her conversation with HuffPost, Osterweil discussed the downsides of fixating on organizing and nonviolent tactics, why white supremacy and property are inextricably linked, and the problem with abstract conversations about civility."
 
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