ALERT CDC issues Ebola action plan to US hospitals as experts fear it is 'only a matter of time'

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Now is the time to prepare': CDC issues Ebola action plan to US hospitals as experts fear it is 'only a matter of time' before the disease arrives on home soil

Center for Disease Control and Prevention warns disease is coming to US
Issued six-page report to hospitals across nation with detailed action plan
All staff members should have 'buddies' to monitor and help train each other
Hospitals of all sizes 'should place greater emphasis on training'
Even small clinics 'must train an employee to deal with media attention'

By Mia De Graaf for MailOnline

Published: 05:44 AEST, 16 September 2014 | Updated: 06:40 AEST, 17 September 2014


The Center for Disease Control and Prevention has drawn up a six-page action plan on how to tackle Ebola, warning US hospitals: 'now is the time to prepare'.

It comes a week after the organization warned the disease is 'out of control', as it emerged a CDC worker has contracted the illness.

World leaders have pledged to invest millions in health care in Liberia, where the disease is expected to rage for another 18 months at least.
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Urgent: The Center for Disease Control and Prevention has issued an Ebola checklist to all American hospitals as it warns the disease, which is 'out of control' in a number of African countries could soon reach the US

But experts believe urgent work must be done at home as it is only a matter of time before the illness is widespread across America.

Drawing up a three-stage plan for both small and large hospitals nationwide, CDC chiefs warn the disease has yet to be controlled and 'it is possible that individuals with EVD in West Africa may travel to the United States'.

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The checklist, released today, orders doctors and nurses to constantly review their approach to the disease and to place heavy emphasis on training staff.

Every member of staff should be given a 'buddy' to help keep each others' hygiene in check.

And all clinics need to train an employee in media relations in case they have to make a public statement or deal with intense attention.

It then goes through each way staff can 'detect', 'protect' and 'respond' appropriately to a case of Ebola, also known as EVD.

There is also a detailed document with diagrams showing staff how to put on and remove their scrubs - that they must study' frequently' to ensure they keep up standards.
Obama says US must fight Ebola now or face long-term risk
World support: The US military has pledged to invest millions in Liberian health care to tackle the disease
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World support: The US military has pledged to invest millions in Liberian health care to tackle the disease
Action plan: The checklist is introduced with the warning, highlight in bold, that 'now is the time to prepare'
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Action plan: The checklist is introduced with the warning, highlight in bold, that 'now is the time to prepare'
Detailed: Staff must be paired up in 'buddies' to help them put on and take off their scrubs to keep up standards
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Detailed: Staff must be paired up in 'buddies' to help them put on and take off their scrubs to keep up standards

Constantly changing: Officials warn staff to 'frequently' check CDC guidelines as they adapt to tackle the illness
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Constantly changing: Officials warn staff to 'frequently' check CDC guidelines as they adapt to tackle the illness
Obama meets CDC officials as Ebola crisis worsens

The introduction to the checklist reads: 'In order to enhance our collective preparedness and response efforts, this checklist highlights key areas for hospital staff - especially hospital emergency management officers, infection control practitioners, and clinical practitioners - to review in preparation for a person with EVD arriving at a hospital for medical care.'

It also warns: 'Many of the signs and symptoms of EVD are non-specific and similar to those of many common infectious diseases, as well as other infectious diseases with high mortality rates.'

Last week, CDC chiefs said the world's worst Ebola outbreak is threatening the stability of affected and neighboring countries and a 'massive' response is needed to bring it under control.

Dr Frieden said: 'We're likely to see significant increases in cases. Already we have widespread transmission Liberia. In Sierra Leone, we're seeing strong signs that that will happen in the near future.'

The group, Doctor Without Borders (Medecins Sans Frontieres - MSF), also warned on Tuesday that the world is losing the battle against the disease and said treatment centers have been 'reduced to places where people go to die alone' as authorities race to contain the disease.

Doctors Without Borders President Joanne Liu said her organization is completely overwhelmed by Ebola outbreak in four West African countries - Guinea, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Nigeria.

She called on other countries to contribute civilian and military medical personnel familiar with biological disasters.

More than 1,500 people have died across West Africa from Ebola.
US calls for emergency U.N. council meeting on Ebola virus
American Ebola sufferers: Dr Richard Sacra (left) is being treated for Ebola in Nebraska where he has received a blood transfusion from Dr Kent Brantly (right) who has recovered from the disease
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American Ebola sufferers: Dr Richard Sacra (left) is being treated for Ebola in Nebraska where he has received a blood transfusion from Dr Kent Brantly (right) who has recovered from the disease
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American Ebola sufferers: Dr Richard Sacra (left) is being treated for Ebola in Nebraska where he has received a blood transfusion from Dr Kent Brantly (right) who has recovered from the disease
US doctor discharged from hospital after Ebola recovery (Archive)

A statement from SIM today read: 'Upon onset of the symptoms, the doctor immediately isolated himself and has since been transferred to the ELWA Ebola isolation unit.

'The doctor is doing well and is in good spirits.'

Bruce Johnson, president of SIM USA, said today: 'My heart was deeply saddened, but my faith was not shaken, when I learned another of our missionary doctors contracted Ebola.

'As a global mission, we are surrounding our missionary with prayer, as well as our Liberian SIM/ELWA colleagues, who continue fighting the Ebola epidemic in Liberia. We have gifted Liberian doctors, medical staff and support staff who are carrying on the fight.'

One US doctor, Richard Sacra, is being treated for the disease in Nebraska, where he has received a blood transfusion from another doctor who recovered from Ebola.

Last month, two Americans Dr Kent Brantly and aid worker Nancy Writebol were released from Emory University Hospital in Atlanta, Georgia after recovering from the deadly virus.

The 33-year-old doctor contracted Ebola while working in Liberia, and was flown out of the country along with missionary Mrs Writebol, 59, to be treated.

The two received an experimental drug known as ZMapp and recovered. The manufacturer says it has run out of supplies of the drug and it will take months to produce more.

World Health Organization Director Margaret Chan warned that the outbreak would 'get worse before it will get better' and would require a larger global response.

She thanked countries that have helped but said: 'We need more from you. And we also need those countries that have not come on board.'

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[nomadcrna]

You should check your sources. This is not true.

 

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U.S. hospitals overdo Ebola plans, posing new risks: researchers

By Sharon Begley

NEW YORK Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:03pm BST
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(Reuters) - Fear of Ebola is causing U.S. hospitals to take precautions that, paradoxically, might backfire, increasing the risk to those caring for a patient with the deadly disease, researchers warned this week.

The only confirmed Ebola cases on U.S. soil so far have been two American aid workers flown from Liberia for treatment at Emory University Hospital. They were discharged this week after recovering from the disease that has killed more than 1,400 people in Africa.

While calling the extra steps "understandable given the horrific mortality of this disease," Dr. Michael Klompas of Harvard Medical School and lead author of the paper in Annals of Internal Medicine, said they are unnecessary and could backfire.

For instance, if nurses and doctors wear unfamiliar gear such as head-to-toe hazmat suits, "there is absolutely a risk of making mistakes and contaminating yourself" with a patient's bodily fluids, said Dr. David Kuhar of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Going overboard could also hurt patients, Klompas said. If workers need to don hazmat suits before entering a patient's room, they will likely examine, test and care for patients less frequently.

Hospitals in 29 states have contacted CDC about 68 suspected cases: 66 were not Ebola and two test results are pending.

Ebola is spread only by direct contact with patients' bodily fluids. A 2007 study of an African outbreak found no traces of virus on a bed frame, chair, bowl, floor, or even a stethoscope used to examine a patient - only on a blood-stained glove.

CDC advises hospitals to place suspected Ebola cases in a one-patient room and have doctors and others wear a fluid-impermeable gown, gloves, surgical mask, and goggles or a face shield.

If the patient has "copious" secretions, CDC guidelines call for shoe and leg coverings plus a second pair of gloves. During procedures that might allow viruses to become airborne, such as inserting a breathing tube, workers should wear respirators.

The American Hospital Association has urged its members "to follow CDC's guidance for this and all infectious diseases," said Vice President Nancy Foster.

There is nevertheless a "temptation to maximize precautions that exceed CDC recommendations," Klompas said. Many of the 60 or so hospitals he has been in contact with plan to go beyond CDC's guidelines, usually at the request of worried doctors, nurses, and other front-line workers.

For instance, some are planning to place all suspected Ebola patients in negative-pressure rooms, and have personnel wear hazmat suits and respirators at all times.

At Emory, healthcare workers initially wore full-body suits with respirators.

"They were caring for the patients for several hours at a time and this gear was more comfortable and provided better air circulation," Dr. Bruce Ribner, director of Emory's infectious disease unit, said by email. After a few days staffers dialed back to what CDC recommended.

(Reporting by Sharon Begley; Editing by Michele Gershberg and Lisa Shumaker)

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/08/22/us-health-ebola-hospitals-idUKKBN0GM20S20140822

 

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Hospitals focus on preparedness as risk of Ebola spread increases
Public health officials on guard as they screen for cases; three falsely suspected in Baltimore area
September 17, 2014|By Scott Dance | The Baltimore Sun

As health officials fail to contain West Africa's Ebola outbreak, recent scares at two Baltimore-area hospitals highlight the need for hospitals here and across the United States to prepare space and equipment for what some consider inevitable — the arrival of the deadly virus here.

While experts say the chances of an epidemic spreading in the U.S. are low, there is a real possibility that someone could come down with Ebola after returning from a trip to Africa, they said. Hospitals routinely ask patients with flu-like symptoms whether they have visited that continent recently.

There have been no confirmed cases of Ebola here, but hospitals are tailoring existing plans for pandemics of other diseases, such as SARS and avian flu, to be ready for Ebola as the epidemic grows exponentially, already more deadly than all previously recorded Ebola outbreaks combined.

"If you look at the epidemic curve and the global travel, I think there's a risk that we could" see an Ebola case, said Dr. Trish Perl, senior epidemiologist for Johns Hopkins Health System. "That's what we're trying to plan for."

The outbreak's persistence prompted President Barack Obama to announce plans Tuesday to send 3,000 troops and more money to help contain it. The first planeload of hospital equipment will arrive in Liberia on Friday, U.S. aid official Nancy Lindborg told a House of Representatives committee Wednesday.

At Howard County General Hospital, two patients' symptoms and their answers to questions led doctors to believe Ebola was possible, but the disease was ruled out quickly, said Dr. Gabor Kelen, director of the Johns Hopkins Office of Critical Event Preparedness and Response.

A similar scare occurred recently at one of MedStar Health's Baltimore-area hospitals but also was quickly determined not to be Ebola, said Shawn Mueller, director of infection control at MedStar Union Memorial Hospital.

Privacy concerns prevent health officials from releasing more detailed information about such cases. State Department of Health and Mental Hygiene spokesman Christopher Garrett said no one with "high-risk exposures" to Ebola has been identified in Maryland.

In the Hopkins and MedStar systems as well as the University of Maryland Medical System, hospitals are working to designate areas that would serve patients quarantined with Ebola, officials said. While Hopkins is considering whether it might make more sense to transfer Ebola patients to a single location, for example, under its current plan, all of its facilities, including Howard General, are prepared to accept and treat such patients.

Other hospitals similarly have set aside quarantine space, gathered supplies and trained staff. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a checklist for U.S. hospitals last month that includes training clinical staff to spot Ebola symptoms, maintaining communication with local and federal health officials, and readying protective equipment and isolated beds.

Hospitals are urged to watch for patients with high fevers and other symptoms, including headache, muscle pain, vomiting and diarrhea. From there, the main step in screening is a simple one — asking patients whether they have traveled to Africa within the past three weeks or been in close contact with someone who has.

"That's our job — to make sure the hospital is aware and prepared for any novel pathogen that's presenting either locally or internationally," said Michael Anne Preas, director of infection control and hospital epidemiology at the University of Maryland Medical Center. "Because we serve an international community, we have to be ready."

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/20...15_1_ebola-symptoms-ebola-case-ebola-patients

 

[China Connection]

Well it shouldn't be a problem is below is correct.

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How Do You Get Ebola?

Ebola isn’t as contagious as more common viruses like colds, influenza, or measles. It spreads to people by contact with the skin or bodily fluids of an infected animal, like a monkey, chimp, or fruit bat. Then it moves from person to person the same way. Those who care for a sick person or bury someone who has died from the disease often get it.

Other ways to get Ebola include touching contaminated needles or surfaces.

You can’t get Ebola from air, water, or food. A person who has Ebola but has no symptoms can’t spread the disease, either.

http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/ebola-fever-virus-infection

 

[Wise Owl]

You should check your sources. This is not true.

Uh, maybe you should check your sources. You might be wrong on this.

 

[magnetic1]

The local news was talking yesterday about how Aspirus in Wausau is prepared...right down to some pressurized rooms. I think they have been kind of set up this way for some time, though, for other infectious diseases.

I saw a patient's room with warnings on the door several years ago......

 

[Housecarl]

The local news was talking yesterday about how Aspirus in Wausau is prepared...right down to some pressurized rooms. I think they have been kind of set up this way for some time, though, for other infectious diseases.

I saw a patient's room with warnings on the door several years ago......

Most likely for TB primarily followed by all the old fellow travelers of the Horsemen.

 

[Hognutz]

JohnGaltFla. Needs to see this,as it compliments the BombShelter.......

 

[Doomer Doug]

This is actually a good thing in my opinion. One of the reasons Africa in general, and West Africa in particular is going to end up at Black Death levels is they already had corrupt and incompetent governments, minimal health care systems with poor training, not enough supplies and limited infrastructure.

Ebola is indeed coming to the first world, but the situation will be different. We will not be dealing with poorly trained and supplied health care workers or hospitals.

I seriously doubt that if Mr. Patrick Sawyer had flown into Minnesota, the series of Three Stooges level actions taken by Nigerian authorities would have happened here. It ain't much, but the USA is not a bunch of ignorant Africans playing doctor.

 

[Baloo]

I've moved out of Camp Fooked.

If this was going to be a big deal for USA, it would have decimated the West Point area as they raided that center weeks ago--and I don't see any reports that it has.

 

[Doomer Doug]

We have no idea of how many people died in West Point. The large number of new cases in Monrovia are very likely West Point residents who fled from there.

 

[China Connection]

Personally I haven't been paying any attention to this disease until now. However with the recent huge jump in numbers of those infected something has to have changed in its mode of transmission that we are not being told about. If the disease has evolved to somehow being transmitted easily between people then we are all in for a frightening time.

 

[Baloo]

We have no idea of how many people died in West Point. The large number of new cases in Monrovia are very likely West Point residents who fled from there.

I saw that area (its beyond anything a 1st world country could imagine)--it had at least 75k people and its conditions were extreme--people had something like three toilets and they used same water to cook with and they are on top of each other.

If it was really contagious THOUSANDS would be dead and that would be hard to cover up. I have not seen that.

 

[Kris Gandillon]

I've moved out of Camp Fooked.

If this was going to be a big deal for USA, it would have decimated the West Point area as they raided that center weeks ago--and I don't see any reports that it has.

All we have to go on is this.

The outbreak is the largest the world has ever seen. The number of cases is doubling every three weeks. There will soon be more cases in Liberia alone than in the four-decade history of the disease.

I have seen very few recent reports that get specific down to the exact area within the country. We're lucky to get accurate counts by country at this point.

There will soon be more cases in Liberia alone than in the four-decade history of the disease.

Oh and that one...we just passed with the most recent report last week. Liberia now has more infected and more dead in THIS 2014 outbreak than ALL OTHER previous Ebola outbreaks added together since tracking began in 1976.

 

[summerthyme]

This is actually a good thing in my opinion. One of the reasons Africa in general, and West Africa in particular is going to end up at Black Death levels is they already had corrupt and incompetent governments, minimal health care systems with poor training, not enough supplies and limited infrastructure.

Ebola is indeed coming to the first world, but the situation will be different. We will not be dealing with poorly trained and supplied health care workers or hospitals.

I seriously doubt that if Mr. Patrick Sawyer had flown into Minnesota, the series of Three Stooges level actions taken by Nigerian authorities would have happened here. It ain't much, but the USA is not a bunch of ignorant Africans playing doctor.

Doug... I wish you were right. (I'm going to disregard your post that anything that results in the deaths of potentially millions of humans, no matter how poorly educated or whatever their color is a "good thing". Personally, I believe that sort of judgement is best left to God)

However, our "well supplised and trained" (extrpolating from your statement) health care workers will be out of PPE within a week of the first wave of Ebola patients hitting the average hospital. Unless our various agencies are stockpiling hundreds of thousands of PPE sets, we won't be a whole lot better off than those in Africa, very quickly.

JIT isn't just for grocery stores... I've been in a hospital when they were *totally* out of syringes in several sizes, and they weren't "able" to get them in for over a week. And that was in NORMAL times!!

Remember- we have TWENTY TWO beds in this country which are actually suitable for a Level4 biohazard... and no matter how hard the CDC wants to avoid that designation, the fact remains, Ebola IS a Level 4 pathogen. Saying "oh, you're fine with masks and gloves as long as you aren't doing invasive procedures" doesn't mean they are right- Remember, Dr Brantly and others have said "if there is a MILLIMETER of skin exposed"- you're at risk! Well, "masks and gloves" leave a whole lot more than a millimeter exposed.

Saying "oh, it can't get a foothold in this country, because we're "educated and well supplied" sounds great- but it's simply whistling past the graveyard.

Speaking of which... how prepared is your average funeral home to handle infectious corpses?!

Summerthyme

 

[Kathy in WV]

I doubt funeral homes will even be allowed to perform funerals in the heighth of an outbreak. I rather picture the military setting up cremation units and all infectious matter being burned to ash and put into mass graves.

 

[Masterchief117]

I've moved out of Camp Fooked.

If this was going to be a big deal for USA, it would have decimated the West Point area as they raided that center weeks ago--and I don't see any reports that it has.

Ok, but once you leave you can't come back.

 

[Doomer Doug]

Summerthyme, I don't think the ongoing Ebola epidemic is Africa is a "good" thing at all. I am simply stating the obvious facts.

The reason Ebola has spread so fast and so far in Africa is DIRECTLY RELATED to certain cultural practices that are not common in the USA or Europe. The reason it spread is a pathetic health care system, that at least in Nigeria's case is due to corruption. West Africa is paying the price for civil war, corruption and greed.

You may not like it, but comparing the average US or European hospital, in terms of people, training, supplies and basic aseptic technique, much less corruption levels to what passes for a "hospital" in Monrovia, Liberia is a non starter. If West Africa had a functional health care system, a government that gave a damn about the people, Ebola wouldn't be going to kill multiple million Africans over the next few months.

I don't blame the African people, but I do hold them accountable for behavior that spread Ebola faster than it would in the USA if it had started here.

 

[summerthyme]

Um, Doug?

From your post above:

This is actually a good thing in my opinion

As far as the rest... our US hospitals can be amazing, but despite all our "riches" and "training", etc, MRSA and C. difficile are absolutely endemic in them. If we can't keep MRSA from spreading, Ebola isn't going to be controlled either,

Summerthyme

 

[Doomer Doug]

Ah, I see. Okay the "good thing" is the fact the CDC sent the request to the hospitals to get prepared for Ebola in the USA. The epidemic is not a good thing, but the CDC telling hospitals to get prepared for it in the USA I think is a good thing.

Having seen pictures of what passes for a "hospital" in Monrovia, Liberia compared to say, Legacy Emmanuel here in Portland, I am still saying Africa really doesn't have a health care system in the Western meaning of the word, with exceptions like Nigeria, South Africa and Kenya.

 

[summerthyme]

Ah, ok..

Thanks for clarifying. I've seen way too many posts (not necessarily here) where people basically are saying "screw them! They're just ignorant Africans... let 'em die". They're still HUMANS!

As far as the difference between the African "Hospitals" and ours... sure, NOW! However... our hospitals are full to capacity pretty much every day of the year, and full to overflowing during almost any flu season. I've been in one where I lay in a bed in the hall for three days, for lack of ANY room to put me. And that was many years ago, before the government body that governs hospital bed numbers forced a number of hospitals to CLOSE or cut bed numbers, because "excess capacity" was too costly!

Within 1 month of Ebola hitting the US, we WILL be housing patients in tents that won't look a whole lot better than those in Liberai, et al. Heck, we'll be lucky if they get that organized- because it's going to violate a thousand laws that "can't" be broken, and require emergency executive orders, waivers of the ability to sue, etc.

Yes, we have an excellent medical system compared to Liberia, but it's on the razor's edge of capacity NOW. If Ebola hits here, a whole bunch of medical professionals are going to decide that their paycheck isn't worth dying for, and then what? Conscription? Do you want your loved ones being cared for by a nurse who is only there because the government said "you're staying at the hospital or else"- at the point of a gun?

The worst thing about this is it doesn't take "ignorance" to spread it... all it takes is overworked health care workers who are exhausted (and they'll be at that point within the first month, if not sooner) who forget if they followed one step in the protocol. I don't know if you've ever done a job which is both detailed and "by rote"... I have. And you can end up laying in bed at night and not being able to remember for the life of you if you did one step (or several) at some point during the day. You may have done it, simply by habit- or you may have skipped it entirely, due to a moment's distraction. That's just human nature.

With this disease, that "one moment of distraction" is going to let this spread like wildfire.

Summerthyme

 

[Meadowlark]

Doug... I wish you were right. (I'm going to disregard your post that anything that results in the deaths of potentially millions of humans, no matter how poorly educated or whatever their color is a "good thing". Personally, I believe that sort of judgement is best left to God)

However, our "well supplised and trained" (extrpolating from your statement) health care workers will be out of PPE within a week of the first wave of Ebola patients hitting the average hospital. Unless our various agencies are stockpiling hundreds of thousands of PPE sets, we won't be a whole lot better off than those in Africa, very quickly.

JIT isn't just for grocery stores... I've been in a hospital when they were *totally* out of syringes in several sizes, and they weren't "able" to get them in for over a week. And that was in NORMAL times!!

Remember- we have TWENTY TWO beds in this country which are actually suitable for a Level4 biohazard... and no matter how hard the CDC wants to avoid that designation, the fact remains, Ebola IS a Level 4 pathogen. Saying "oh, you're fine with masks and gloves as long as you aren't doing invasive procedures" doesn't mean they are right- Remember, Dr Brantly and others have said "if there is a MILLIMETER of skin exposed"- you're at risk! Well, "masks and gloves" leave a whole lot more than a millimeter exposed.

Saying "oh, it can't get a foothold in this country, because we're "educated and well supplied" sounds great- but it's simply whistling past the graveyard.

Speaking of which... how prepared is your average funeral home to handle infectious corpses?!

Summerthyme

Well said. Just imagine the panic and mayhem that will set in when travel restrictions and quarrentines are imposed. Most people dont have barrels of water or closets full of MRE's or long term storage foods. The looting, burning and chaos shown in the movie contagioun was pretty tame compared to what would really happen. And when I am talking about looting and brigandage, it will not be just the usual suspect so called gibmedats.

My advice is if ebola hits, plan on hunkering down and living the hermit life until things settle. If your renting, I doubt the landlord will be evicting you in a big hurry when seemingly the world is going to sh*t. Just hang low, stay out of site and dont be the nail that sticks out or attracts others who feel its open season to steal other peoples stuff. Just hunker down until the pathogen runs its course or genuine vaccines start making the rounds. Eventually life will go on, the survivors and the lucky with start to clean up the mess and life will gradually return to a semblence of normal.

 

[Be Well]

All the discussion of how modern and good US hospitals are - a couple of things to think about in addition to points already brought up.

1. Countless illegals pouring in saturating health care system and also bringing diseases with them.

2. 0vomitcare screwing everything up worse and worse constantly.

3. Even during a relatively bad flu season the health care system got overwhelmed, for instance during swine H1N1 in 2009/2010.

4. JIT manufacture and delivery of PPE gear and basics like IV fluids - read the other day that they are sometimes in very short supply even now.

5. The lack of proper negative pressure rooms or whatever they're called, as well as nurses/docs/lab techs trained to handle pathogen level 4 patients and their bodily substances.

6. The fact that ebola's first symptoms are like other common diseases.



Just a few little thoughts.

 

[packyderms_wife]

I have a greater chance of dying at the hands of ISIS than I do ebola. Anymore questions???

 

[Foothiller]

And sending 3000 soldiers into the hot zone is great f'ing idea. I mean, what could go wrong?

The DHS latest research shows that 5.56 NATO *and S&W.40HP* is the most effective weapon against Ebola. So when they bring it here they'll have plenty of ammo, and plenty of practice using it against Ebola.

We like wars.

We have so many most people don't even know who we're bombing.

Next up: War on Ebola. Starting with infected Americans they will use the .40 caliber vaccine. To the head.

mark it down.

Stay safe.

 

[Warthog]

Hate to tell you, but ebola has already been on U.S. soil!!! Remember the two doctors they brought back?

 

[naturallysweet]

I personally believe that Ebola will behave differently in the US than in Africa, IT WILL BE WORSE. The sun kills Ebola, and it can't survive for long outside the body in hot and humid climates. In African communities where they do most of their shopping and socializing in outdoor areas on the equator, Ebola will have a harder time. Plus, they have generations of immunity built up from eating bush meat and passing monkey Ebola around. In one area they estimated that 20% of the people had evidence of previous Ebola exposure.

They have the natural immunity and the ideal environment on the equator to avoid getting and dying from it.

Meanwhile, here in the US we do everything inside in the winter. We shop inside, send our children to giant boxes with thousands of other children for 7-8 hours a day, and 1/2 of us don't wash our hands after using the restroom!


Africans are used to dealing with deadly diseases. We are not. There is going to be mass panic when Ebola is multiplying and people are dropping dead in the streets in America. Many Africans may be poor and have to shop for their groceries every day, but many Americans get 3 meals a day from restaurants with employees who have questionable hygiene. One rice seller in the open air on the equator is going to kill a lot fewer people than one fry cook in a fast food restaurant.

Anyone who thinks that the magic of America is going to protect us, has been sniffing too much hope and change.

 

[Be Well]

Hate to tell you, but ebola has already been on U.S. soil!!! Remember the two doctors they brought back?

Those were two known patients and all precautions were taken, actually several more were brought, or at least one more. No one caught ebola from them.

It's the thousands of people entering the country every day whose disease status is totally unknown that are the problem.