ALERT CDC Activates Highest Response Level at Emergency Operations Center

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.@CDCEmergency Ops Center moved to Level 1 response to #EbolaOutbreak given the extension to Nigeria & potential to affect many lives.

In a statement to the media, the CDC explains that it is increasing the amount of operational capacity dedicated to Ebola as a response to its rapid spread internationally, and at the behest of the World Health Organization:

CDC has contributed to the World Health Organization’s (WHO) efforts to control the Ebola outbreak in West Africa since the start of the outbreak. CDC now is taking a more active role, and has been invited by WHO to provide leadership on the technical front. The CDC has activated its Emergency Operations Center to its highest response level.

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At home, CDC has updated infection-prevention protocols for hospitals where travelers with suspected Ebola exposures may present for treatment; for aircraft crew and airport personnel; and for laboratories handling specimens from suspected Ebola cases.

The CDC had previously issued a Level 3 travel alert to Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Liberia, advising Americans to stay out of the affected areas of West Africa. Level 3 is the highest possible alert warning against traveling to a country. In Nigeria, where five more cases have been diagnosed, the warning level has been raised to 2.

In the days since the Level 3 alert to the other Ebola-affected countries, Nigeria's lone case has become five diagnoses and an additional death-- a nurse who had treated Liberian Patrick Sawyer, who died shortly after flying in from his native country to Lagos, Nigeria with the disease. In Saudi Arabia, a man who was being tested for Ebola after entering the country from Saudi Arabia died before results could come in, while Spain prepares for the return of a priest who was positively diagnosed with the virus in West Africa.

In the United States, two patients-- both Christian Missionaries previously working in Liberia-- are being treated at Emory Medical Center in Atlanta, Georgia for Ebola. Six different individuals, none identified, have been tested for Ebola-- one in New York, one in Baltimore, and one in Columbus, Ohio. The CDC has refused to disclose the locations of the other three tested, but has confirmed all six tested negative.

While the CDC issues precautions in the United States, the World Health Organization is currently conducting an emergency meeting to discuss, among other things, the ethics of providing patients in West Africa with a highly untested experimental serum that could cure the disease. WHO director general Margaret Chan warned of the disease, “This outbreak is moving faster than our efforts to control it."

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/...Level-1-Alert-Highest-Possible-on-Ebola-Virus
 
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psychgirl

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Honestly, I don't think it's because of anything new. This is something that SHOULD be done for the sake of all of us (I think )
 
Hfcomms

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Read between the lines. Look at things that have been happening in the last few weeks including the unannounced disaster medical exercise in NYC as well as reports of various fire departments taking there bio hazard response trailers out of storage. Also consider what our own Blizzard has said about what is happening behind the scenes. Hopefully this outbreak stays pretty localized in Africa. But with a level 4 pathogen running unchecked this is nothing to play around with. This is what they should be doing.
 
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Liberia declares a "state of emergency"

In response to the nurse's death:

Sawyer, who had a fever and was vomiting on the plane, was coming from the infected country of Liberia but had a layover in Togo. As a result, officials may not have initially known his original point of departure and it was unclear whether he was traveling on a Liberian or American passport.

Experts say people infected with Ebola can spread the disease only through their bodily fluids and after they show symptoms. Since the incubation period can last up to three weeks, some of the Nigerians who treated Sawyer are only now showing signs of illness that can mimic many common tropical illnesses - fever, muscle aches and vomiting.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ebola-death-toll-reaches-932-world-health-organization-says/
 
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Why Is the CDC Lying about Ebola?

http://ncrenegade.com/editorial/why-is-the-cdc-lying-about-ebola/

Eight people who came in contact with Patrick Sawyer on an air flight to Lagos, Nigeria are showing signs of Ebola. The mode of transmission can only be attributed to an airborne vector. But the CDC continues to state that Ebola is not airborne. Why?

David DeGerolamo
Bodies dumped in streets as West Africa struggles to curb Ebola

Relatives of Ebola victims in Liberia defied government orders and dumped infected bodies in the streets as West African governments struggled to enforce tough measures to curb an outbreak of the virus that has killed 887 people.

In Nigeria, which recorded its first death from Ebola in late July, authorities in Lagos said eight people who came in contact with the deceased U.S. citizen Patrick Sawyer were showing signs of the deadly disease.
 
Countrymouse

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Wonder why the deafening silence from the naysayers who've accused us all of "hair on fire," "emotionalism," "scare tactics," and a number of other put-downs?

Read. post. 10. this. thread.
 
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It's far worse than we are being led to believe, those of us aware to enough to even be looking that is.
 
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Neither here nor there.
psychgirl said:
Honestly, I don't think it's because of anything new. This is something that SHOULD be done for the sake of all of us (I think )
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This^^^ In the past they've been caught with their panties down around their ankles when a crisis has hit and this time they are at least a few days ahead of the problem.

K-
 
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Took them long enough and to think most of these countries have not tried to lock down their country to slow or prevent the spread of it. Right now I keep reading news reports where government officials are finding dead people in the streets and from the way they are talking it's a good many bodies.

There is one report that someone in Saudi Arabia was thought to have this and died before the lab test could come back and what a hoot if it gets lose there in one of their cities it will spread very fast.
 
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Trouble said:
It's far worse than we are being led to believe, those of us aware to enough to even be looking that is.
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Yep:
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packyderms_wife

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Neither here nor there.
Cardinal said:
http://ncrenegade.com/editorial/why-is-the-cdc-lying-about-ebola/

Eight people who came in contact with Patrick Sawyer on an air flight to Lagos, Nigeria are showing signs of Ebola. The mode of transmission can only be attributed to an airborne vector. But the CDC continues to state that Ebola is not airborne. Why?

David DeGerolamo
Bodies dumped in streets as West Africa struggles to curb Ebola

Relatives of Ebola victims in Liberia defied government orders and dumped infected bodies in the streets as West African governments struggled to enforce tough measures to curb an outbreak of the virus that has killed 887 people.

In Nigeria, which recorded its first death from Ebola in late July, authorities in Lagos said eight people who came in contact with the deceased U.S. citizen Patrick Sawyer were showing signs of the deadly disease.
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Since the air inside of a jet is recycled, and that's a really long trip he was on, why isn't everyone on that flight sick, dying, or dead from ebola yet, why only eight? Does the "airborne" version have a limitation on how airborne it actually is as in so many feet??? The average human hurls sputum a good 12 to 18 feet when sneezing or coughing really hard which means half or more of a jumbo jet would/should be infected by now if it was truly airborne. Just asking as the airborne angle isn't making any sense.
 
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"We have a national emergency, indeed the world is at risk," Nigeria's Health Minister Onyebuchi Chukwu said after a weekly cabinet meeting in Abuja. "Nobody is immune. The experience in Nigeria has alerted the world that it takes just one individual to travel by air to a place to begin an outbreak."
 
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Are you sure about that?
packyderms_wife said:
Since the air inside of a jet is recycled, and that's a really long trip he was on, why isn't everyone on that flight sick, dying, or dead from ebola yet, why only eight?
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How do you know its only eight? That's just a minimum number.

I appreciate the need to keep a clear head and not hyperventilate over ANY of the issues we're watching these days, but when did we start believing media and government statements so earnestly?

The reporting seems to be playing with numbers to downplay what may be going on. Here's an example regarding the CDC's statement:

"The CDC is deploying additional staff to the four affected countries, and said 50 more disease-control experts should arrive there in the next 30 days. It also issued instructions to airlines that may come into contact with passengers from the affected countries designed to minimize the chance of infection"

This as a statement written as blandly as humanly possible, but could mean a number of different things. I particularly key on to the "...50 more disease-control experts should arrive there in the next 30 days..." part of the statement. The "30 days" number is a red herring. Sure, it could take 30 days to get the experts in place, which makes it sound comfortingly low-speed and unalarming. Of course, there is nothing preventing the CDC from shoving them all on a plane as we speak and getting them there by tomorrow morning. Similarly, there is no impediment in sending more than 50 experts over any time interval they wish, 50 is just a minimum quantity.

They've merely picked numbers that imply a lack of urgency, as a means of misdirection.
 
Countrymouse

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packyderms_wife said:
Since the air inside of a jet is recycled, and that's a really long trip he was on, why isn't everyone on that flight sick, dying, or dead from ebola yet, why only eight? Does the "airborne" version have a limitation on how airborne it actually is as in so many feet??? The average human hurls sputum a good 12 to 18 feet when sneezing or coughing really hard which means half or more of a jumbo jet would/should be infected by now if it was truly airborne. Just asking as the airborne angle isn't making any sense.
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Are you EVER going to READ the Canadian study I posted?

YES, the DISTANCE matters---as was COVERED in that study.

(the one where the NOT-sick monkeys got Ebola from the SICK pigs---w/o touching them or their fluids).


One more time:

the 2010 study: http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/res/psds-ftss/ebola-eng.php

the 2012 study: (the one with the pigs and monkeys) http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/121115/srep00811/full/srep00811.html
 
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It is generally accepted that the people in the four rows surrounding an infected person on a plane, train etc are the only ones who are in serious danger. Yes, the air is recycled, but it is the distance the virus can travel that defines the risk. This mostly applies to airborne virus like TB for instance.

It is possible that Mr. Sawyer got up and ran around the plane, to the bathroom for instance. People who came into contact with any body fluids he left in the bathroom would also be exposed. The mistake made was to only deal with the people a row or two away from him. Nigerian authorities should have quarantined everybody on the plane for at least 10 days. The fact they did not will be the death of many, many people.
 
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Countrymouse said:
Are you EVER going to READ the Canadian study I posted?

YES, the DISTANCE matters---as was COVERED in that study.

(the one where the NOT-sick monkeys got Ebola from the SICK pigs---w/o touching them or their fluids).


One more time:

the 2010 study: http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/res/psds-ftss/ebola-eng.php

the 2012 study: (the one with the pigs and monkeys) http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/121115/srep00811/full/srep00811.html
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To generalize:

Classic air-born example would be dry dessicated anthrax powder.
(Dry spores acting like dust.)

Ebola is air-born in an aerosol droplet of moisture.
Totally different mechanisms accomplishing the same purpose.

Studies also show that freeze-dried Ebola has excellent storage characteristics,
remaining viable for long periods of time. (Weaponized variants will use this technique.)


BTW: Piglets were potentially infectious on day two in those studies.
(EBOV RNA was detected in nasal and oral swabs of piglets from 1 dpi until 7 dpi)
dpi = days post infection
 
Hfcomms

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packyderms_wife said:
Just asking as the airborne angle isn't making any sense.
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As CM said read the study. People are confusing terms and that is because government/media is obsfucating the terms. In scientific parlance a true 'airborne' virus is capable of infecting without being attached to a carrier. In other words a virus [strand of DNA or RNA with a protein coat] that is able to float and survive on air currents being breathed in and capable of infecting someone is considered to be airborne. This strain of Ebola apparently can be transmitted through the water molecules from breathing, coughing, sneezing, ect along with the other body fluids that have been discussed before. So technically they can say it's not airborn and it's correct. But in laymans terms and from what we understand it is airborne as the disease apparently can be cought from being in proximity to an infected person by breathing in the molecules of moisture they are shedding which is full of the virus. So it's possible that the people several rows away from Sawyer might not of been infected while the people closer were infected. The government leads people to believe it can only be caught by being in direct contact with the persons and their bodily fluids as in touching them or getting the fluids splashed on them. This appears not to be true as the studies and more importantly medical workers are finding out who are following all the protocols and still getting infected.
 
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Scar said:
Yikes. I wonder what info they have that they are not sharing.
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We received the emails Monday morning from the CDC to get our act together and to not say anything until it was announced sometime later this week, we were led to believe the announcement would come on Friday and not today.

Most of our executive and senior medical staff is at a med conference in Chicago and the rest of our medical staff with kids are either out of town on their final summer trip before school start or getting ready for school to start in a few weeks.

What worries me is when these people return home from vacations and meeting from around CONUS what type of bugs will they bring home with them?

All I can say here is to implement universal precautions in your home and work place and try and to steer clear of large crowds until they get a handle on this nasty disease.

I have a feeling that real soon in order to keep people here from rioting the Feds will put a clamp on this in order to control the populous.

Gosh 20 years ago when this infection jumped from monkeys to humans most likely from sexual intercourse with primates it pretty much freaked me out then especially the sex part.

I guess bleeding from every orifice on your body, bloody vomit and bloody explosive diarrhea with a survival rate of 0 did not bother them or they just didn't understand what was happening back then.

This scares the Shia out of me!

God Bless!

SIRR1
 
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More clarification on how Ebola spreads posted on PFI Forum.



Experts say transmission of Ebola virus by air possible

on August 05, 2014 / in Health 6:28 pm
By SOLA OGUNDIPE
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/08/e...air-possible/?

THE Ebola Virus is essentially transmitted from human-to-human through direct contact with infected patients, or through contact with body fluids of a victim. However, scientists are not ruling out the possibility of transmission by air through aerosolised particles.

Previously, Canadian scientists have shown that the deadliest form of the Ebola virus (the Zaire Ebola) could be transmitted by air between species. Although no human over-ther-air transmission of the lethal viral disorder has been recorded, but the Patrick Sawyer incidence in Lagos, Nigeria, has reopened worries over the implications of the possibility of its transmission in an enclosed environment such as an aircraft cabin.

Transmissible from pigs to monkeys by air

Studies show that the Ebola virus is transmissible to monkeys from infected pigs without them coming into direct contact. The Ebola virus survives for days outside infected hosts and can “ride” on aerosolised droplets to spread to potential victims.

In a demonstration of the infectious dose of the Ebola virus, the Public Health Agency of Canada says 1 – 10 aerosolised organisms are sufficient to cause infection in humans.

In demonstrating the transmission from pigs to monkeys without any direct contact between them, the scientists housed the pigs carrying the virus in pens with the monkeys in close proximity but separated by a wire barrier. After eight days, some of the macaques (monkeys) were showing clinical signs typical of ebola and were euthanised.

According to the Canadian Public Health Agency: “The virus can survive in liquid or dried material for a number of days. Infectivity is found to be stable at room temperature or at 4 degrees celsius for several days, and indefinitely stable at -70 degrees celsius. Infectivity can be preserved by lyophilisation. {i.e. freeze-drying}

Hence, it is implied that Ebola viruses can survive for several days on common objects such as door knobs or household surfaces. If an infected Ebola victim runs around touching such common objects after cleaning blood or mucous from his nose, another innocent victim can easily infect himself by touching the same objects and then eating some food that places the virus in his mouth.

Level 4 biohazard

Ebola, considered a level-4 biohazard, is very infectious, requiring special protective biohazard suits, containment Level 4 facilities, equipment, and operational practices for work involving infectious or potentially infectious materials, animals, and cultures.
 
packyderms_wife

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Neither here nor there.
Hfcomms said:
As CM said read the study. People are confusing terms and that is because government/media is obsfucating the terms. In scientific parlance a true 'airborne' virus is capable of infecting without being attached to a carrier. In other words a virus [strand of DNA or RNA with a protein coat] that is able to float and survive on air currents being breathed in and capable of infecting someone is considered to be airborne.

This strain of Ebola apparently can be transmitted through the water molecules from breathing, coughing, sneezing, ect along with the other body fluids that have been discussed before. So technically they can say it's not airborn and it's correct.

But in laymans terms and from what we understand it is airborne as the disease apparently can be cought from being in proximity to an infected person by breathing in the molecules of moisture they are shedding which is full of the virus. So it's possible that the people several rows away from Sawyer might not of been infected while the people closer were infected. NOT IN AND ENCLOSED AIRPLANE!!! THE AIR IS RECYCLED!!!

The government leads people to believe it can only be caught by being in direct contact with the persons and their bodily fluids as in touching them or getting the fluids splashed on them. This appears not to be true as the studies and more importantly medical workers are finding out who are following all the protocols and still getting infected.
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Not disagreeing with this. A planes air system is contianed and recycled throughout the flight so what I want to know is why the hell isn't EVERYONE that was on the plane with this guy also sick with ebola! If what you and everyone else is saying, since I refuse to set my hair on fire, every damned person that was on that plane, and lets face it if you're unlucky enough to be on a plane with some douche that's infected with live ebola you are in fact damned, should be sick with ebola, dying from ebola, or dead!
 
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packyderms_wife said:
Not disagreeing with this, what I want to know is why the hell isn't EVERYONE that was on the plane with this guy also sick with ebola! If what you and everyone else is saying, since I refuse to set my hair on fire, every damned person that was on that plane, and lets face it if you're unlucky enough to be on a plane with some douche that's infected with live ebola you are in fact damned, should be sick with ebola, dying from ebola, or dead!
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The simple physics of aerosol droplets, and movement of the infected person will determine risk.

If one person had the flu on a plane, would EVERYONE catch it too? (No...)
Same ting wit Ebola, ain't everyone gonna get sick. :D
 
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With passengers flying in and out of the US what would happen if one of the TSA thugs got it? They are groping all of the passengers before they board the plane, one TSA Thug could infect thousands of people.
 
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Then the pieces of shit thugs would infect every damn body they touched!!
Bad Hand said:
With passengers flying in and out of the US what would happen if one of the TSA thugs got it? They are groping all of the passengers before they board the plane, one TSA Thug could infect thousands of people.
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Was the medical staff on the aircraft using pressurized containment suits or Tyvek jump suits and head gear with filtered air masks.

It looked like the ambulance assistant that walked the Doctor into the hospital was wearing Tyvek coveralls, a head mask that was un pressurized and a air mask using filtered air.

So if things go in order the Ambulance crew should be next to drop since they were not using pressurized containment suits with bottled air.

Time will tell. SIRR1
 
TXKajun

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IMHO, the virus wasn't spreading fast enough for TPTB, so they decided to help it along a bit by importing it into the USA. Monrovia and Nigeria are the latest....and maybe Saudi Arabia. Yep, it's a-comin' folks. Get your masks and Tyvek suits. Prepare to shelter in place for several months. God help us all.

Kajun
 
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Indeed it will!
SIRR1 said:
Was the medical staff on the aircraft using pressurized containment suits or Tyvek jump suits and head gear with filtered air masks.

It looked like the ambulance assistant that walked the Doctor into the hospital was wearing Tyvek coveralls, a head mask that was un pressurized and a air mask using filtered air.

So if things go in order the Ambulance crew should be next to drop since they were not using pressurized containment suits with bottled air.

Time will tell. SIRR1
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packyderms_wife said:
., since I refuse to set my hair on fire, every damned person that was on that plane, and lets face it if you're unlucky enough to be on a plane with some douche that's infected with live ebola you are in fact damned, should be sick with ebola, dying from ebola, or dead!
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Packy,

Modern airliners do recycle the air but they also filter the air. The A/C pack exhaust air is ducted into the pressurized fuselage, where it is mixed with filtered air from the recirculation fans, and fed into the "mix manifold". On nearly all modern jetliners, the airflow is approximately 50% "outside air" and 50% "filtered air." Modern jetliners use "high efficiency particulate arresting" HEPA filters, which trap more than 99% of all bacteria and clustered viruses. That is why not everyone on the aircraft was coming down with Ebola. In addition Ebola still doesn't infect as easily as some other viruses currently do.
 
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