INTL Casting a suspicious eye on unrest in Iran...

[Spirit Of Truth]

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Apparently the Iranian people have woken up to the fact that there is no freedom and democracy in their country and some have actually found the courage to make a stink about it with the mullah megalomaniacs exercising control in the name of the apocalypse and some hidden 12th Imam they can't find.

I think the anger and protestation is legitimate amongst the repressed Iranian people, but it's possible the ruling elite are stoking internal unrest for ulterior strategic motives that remain to be seen.

Here's a FORUM, BLOG and TWEETER GRID providing coverage of the unfolding crisis.

Here's some videos that have leaked through Iranian censorship:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRUT...oftruth.blogspot.com/&feature=player_embedded

U.S. naval forces in the region have been given a heads up from Washington regarding the Iranian unrest:

U.S. military commanders in the Middle East were sent a message reminding American forces to maintain discipline and prudence if they encounter any Iranian military forces during potential unrest surrounding Iran's presidential election, CNN has learned.

This so far is the only acknowledged U.S. military reaction to the unfolding situation in Iran.

Two U.S. defense officials with direct knowledge of the highly classified message confirmed the details to CNN but said the issue is so sensitive that they could not divulge whose signature was on the message. It was distributed via secure communications in recent days. The officials talked with CNN on condition they not be identified.

Both underscored that the message is not an indication U.S. forces are at any higher state of alert. However, the U.S. military is extremely concerned, they said, that given unrest in Iran, any encounter between U.S. and Iranian units could inadvertently escalate.

The message is mainly directed at U.S. naval forces in the Persian Gulf that regularly encounter Iranian naval forces in those waters.

"We are watching, and ensuring disciplined restraint on the part of our naval forces," one official told CNN. The U.S. military's concern is that Iranian naval forces could engage in some activity in the Gulf waters that could be a "triggering event," that U.S. forces might been compelled to react to. (CNN)

Of course, it's a tad suspicious that just as the Korean Peninsula seems ready to ignite suddenly there's a crisis in Iran that could result in military confrontation and war in the Middle East.

Of course, it's a tad suspicious that just as the Korean Peninsula seems ready to ignite suddenly there's a crisis in Iran that could result in military confrontation and war in the Middle East.

North Korea and Iran are knights serving their strategic purposes for Russia and China in the global chess game of Real Politik IMHO. The problem is, the West hardly has its mind in the game and we think our own checkmate is impossible out of incredibly arrogant stupidity.

Notably, it was clear that the original election of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in 2005 was a rigged sham. Here's an excerpt from my article, "Is Iran Trying To Start World War Three?":

Consider the following. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad predicted with "no doubt" his June election victory, months in advance, at a time when polls gave him barely 1 percent support. After the June 17th, 2005 presidential election in Iran, as the votes were still being tallied, Ahmadinejad, who had hovered at the back of the field of candidates in pre-election opinion surveys, announced hours before the Interior Ministry issued its own results that he would be in the runoff. How is it Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was so certain that he would be elected Iran's new president when all the polls indicated he was not even in the running? An obvious explanation is that the election was rigged and the "certifiably insane" candidate knew the ultimate outcome ahead of time. Indeed, even moderates in Iran who usually don't speak out declared that the election was rigged. Iran's Guardian Council, a panel controlled by hard-line clerics that has the ultimate say over all government actions, was behind the vote counting that resulted in Ahmadinejad's win. As Russian dictator Stalin so aptly put it: “The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do.”

As for Mir-Hossein Mousavi, the 'reformist' candidate supposedly questioning the election results this time around and calling for protests, I think one can safely assume he's a friend, not a foe, of the ruling clerics:

Mir-Hossein Mousavi was a student studying architecture during the Shah's regime at Tehran University. Two years after the revolution (1981), he was nominated as the Prime Minister by Khomeini. He was responsible, as head of the Council of Cultural Revolution, for shutting down the entire university system for four years. Starting in 1988, on the orders of Khomeini, a council was formed, with Mousavi as a member, to revise the regime's constitution to drastically increase the powers of the supreme leader.

Mousavi's socialist ideology became very apparent during the 1980s when he initiated Islamic Socialist policies such as subsidized food coupons, oil coupons and converting private enterprises into government controlled entities. Mr. Mousavi ordered the mass-executions of 1980-81, as well as the summer 1988 executions of over 30,000 political prisoners, who were then buried in mass graves. (Wikipedia)

Notably, Mir-Hossein Mousavi had become a candidate in the Iranian presidential election only two months before the vote. He had been politically inactive for some twenty years prior and then suddenly showed up on the scene. Why did he choose to join the race?

What may be telling is who Mousavi was Prime Minister for from 1981 to 1988, when he was last politically active: then president of Iran, Ali Khamenei....now Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic (Japan Times). Notably, Mousavi was born in Khameneh, in northwestern Iran — the hometown of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and, according to a relative, he is the grandson of Khamenei's paternal aunt (Time).

The profound truth is that, according to sources inside Iran, "Khamenei had encouraged Mousavi to run". (PajamasMedia)

As the contest for the presidency became more heated and threatening to the clerical regime's hold on power, it is clear that:

....Khamenei could have put a stop to it at the very outset of the campaign, but did not. Why? Does he secretly support a serious challenge to the Islamic Republic? (PajamasMedia)

That the political unrest in Iran has been instigated by the ruling regime seems further buttressed by warnings from the Iranian Revolutianary Guard days BEFORE the election that Mir-Hossein Mousavi and his supporters were planning a "velvet revolution", thereby foreshadowing the unrest. Yet the Guard failed to take basic preventative measures to obstruct mass protests and rallies upon announcement of Ahmadinejad's 'reelection' when the social consequences were anticipated.

Is Iranian 'opposition' candidate Mir-Hossein Mousavi acting at the behest of his blood relative and long-time political partner, Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei?

Is the unrest in Iran being instigated on behalf of the ruling mullahs?

If so, why?

Some challenging answers might soon become clear.

 

[shane]

I'd remind all that Iran alone in the ME had tens of thousands of students and young and old spontaneously pour out into the streets immediately after 9/11 in candle light vigils in sympathy for the victims of the twin towers attack.

They were beat off the streets by riot control police and firehoses only to return again and again. There is a brave core population there that knows and wants more freedom and less despotism for Iran. While most in ME have problems with US policy there, many Iranians want better ties and relationship with US. It would be a mistake to assume all Persians are in lock-step with typical portrayed middle east and Muslim hostile attitudes.

Got God, Grub, Guns & Gold?
Panic Early, Beat the Rush!

- Shane

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

I'd remind all that Iran alone in the ME had tens of thousands of students and young and old spontaneously pour out into the streets immediately after 9/11 in candle light vigils in sympathy for the victims of the twin towers attack.

They were beat off the streets by riot control police and firehoses only to return again and again. There is a brave core population there that knows and wants more freedom and less despotism for Iran. While most in ME have problems with US policy there, many Iranians want better ties and relationship with US. It would be a mistake to assume all Persians are in lock-step with typical portrayed middle east and Muslim hostile attitudes.

Got God, Grub, Guns & Gold?
Panic Early, Beat the Rush!

- Shane

I believe the large majority of Iranians would like to show the mullahs the door.

Here's an excellent inside view of Iran showing what the Iranian people are truly like:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9161934809152225169&ei=IH02SoTxN464rgLq3cSBDg&q=iran&hl=en

Satellite dishes, the internet and an educated, intelligent people are an enemy of the 9th century clerics trying to maintain control through brute repression.

Unfortunately, however, those mullahs are fairly saavy and they might be drawing opposition forces out into the open for elimination.

 

[rhughe13]

I believe the large majority of Iranians would like to show the mullahs the door.

Unfortunately, however, those mullahs are fairly saavy and they might be drawing opposition forces out into the open for elimination.

Seems eerily familiar around here too. Just gotta swap a few words around to make them ours.

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

Seems eerily familiar around here too. Just gotta swap a few words around to make them ours.

These attempts to portray America as a neofascist dictatorship really are out of place. I'm sorry, America is not Iran, North Korea, Russia or China, under either the Bush or Obama Administrations.

So many Americans want to see their enemy at home, but the truth is that such folk are often their own worst enemies. Those conspiring for the end of America are overseas and their efforts are not being countered because people here are failing to think for themselves and see what our foes are truly up to.

JMHO

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

Here's a disturbing thought.

What if Iran is staging an internal revolt to draw in American forces?

If there is sufficient unrest, would Washington fall for the temptation of military intervention in Iran to usurp the mullah regime if it is thought the regime is on the ropes?

Russia, of course, would likely not tolerate such intervention.

This is almost following the storyline from the movie Threads:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023790698427111488

 

[rhughe13]

These attempts to portray America as a neofascist dictatorship really are out of place. I'm sorry, America is not Iran, North Korea, Russia or China, under either the Bush or Obama Administrations.

So many Americans want to see their enemy at home, but the truth is that such folk are often their own worst enemies. Those conspiring for the end of America are overseas and their efforts are not being countered because people here are failing to think for themselves and see what our foes are truly up to.

JMHO

I'm not attempting to hijack the thread or anything. Just constructive thought, because the subject is voter fraud. One of the hot topics in the US after every election is voter fraud, re-counts, and supreme court rulings.

I don't have to come out and use any definition first, such as neofascist dictatorship, and then prove it. A person can view an activity, then define it. Loss of ones personal property because condos need to be built, or no praying at high school graduations.

The opportunity for voter fraud is rampant. Many of our states only allow people to vote for the two candidates because the software only allows those choices.

Once can easily find voter fraud common in both lands That supposedly makes us both a democracy. Of course we all know democracy defined by my sig. Can either prove voter fraud to the people indifferent when we throw away overseas military votes? Personally I don't believe in our voting system.

No we don't have mullah's, we are according to DHS (Our own government), pro-life, pro-gun, christian terrorist.

So their leader is a nut job. I think ours are too. That's just an opinion that falls under my newly defined christian terrorist flaws.

Anyway, it only takes a few minutes to read the main page of TB2K everyday to see what freedoms we are loosing.

No, I truly see our foes abroad, but I would be a fool to leave my back door unlocked at home thinking I'm safe.

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

I would be a fool to leave my back door unlocked at home thinking I'm safe.

Try it. You'll find nothing will happen.

Seriously, in America you have to really push the envelope before the state will compromise your individual liberties and even then you have substantial rights to defend yourself. (Although Waco and the like are admittedly disturbing affairs in our history....but these are exceptions rather than the rule.)

This is so diametrically opposed to the experiences of those living in North Korea, Iran, Russia, China, etc., that it is insulting to those people to suggest in anyway that somehow you are being repressed by your government in a comparable way.

Now what's sad is so much thought and time has been wasted by liberty-loving Americans on concocting BS theories about how their own government is a grave threat. Meanwhile the true grave threats to America and the free world by the machinations of external foes have been left almost completely unexposed.

Bottom line....if you love America and your liberty, it's time to stop wasting your time focused on perceived enemies at home and start dealing with the real mortal threats: Russia, China and the Axis powers anew.

 

[rhughe13]

Bottom line....if you love America and your liberty, it's time to stop wasting your time focused on perceived enemies at home and start dealing with the real mortal threats: Russia, China and the Axis powers anew.

Well personally I can't do anything about threats abroad. My government can though. Both Iran and NK are threats, and have been for a long time.

Over the decades we have seen repeated warnings by our gov that they will have nukes in 2, 5, 10 years. ICBM's in 2, 5, 10 years. Nothing was done to quell that before. If there really is a threat, then who is to blame for nothing being done before it's too late?

I think our gov's hands are tied until the rougue countries fire off the big one. Our shadow government the UN will see to that.

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

Well personally I can't do anything about threats abroad. My government can though. Both Iran and NK are threats, and have been for a long time.

Over the decades we have seen repeated warnings by our gov that they will have nukes in 2, 5, 10 years. ICBM's in 2, 5, 10 years. Nothing was done to quell that before. If there really is a threat, then who is to blame for nothing being done before it's too late?

I think our gov's hands are tied until the rougue countries fire off the big one. Our shadow government the UN will see to that.

And this is where I think people's faith in Uncle Sam is most seriously misplaced. There's some sense that we don't have to worry about national security threats because we pay taxes and the government will handle those affairs. So if our enemies intentions are "unthinkable", people don't have to think about it or believe it. Of course, in so doing, they opt to elect governments that don't think about these threats either, thereby sealing the fate of our nation.

 

[Ragnarok]

So many Americans want to see their enemy at home, but the truth is that such folk are often their own worst enemies. Those conspiring for the end of America are overseas...

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

Exactly.

 

[Publius]

I'd remind all that Iran alone in the ME had tens of thousands of students and young and old spontaneously pour out into the streets immediately after 9/11 in candle light vigils in sympathy for the victims of the twin towers attack.

They were beat off the streets by riot control police and firehoses only to return again and again. There is a brave core population there that knows and wants more freedom and less despotism for Iran. While most in ME have problems with US policy there, many Iranians want better ties and relationship with US. It would be a mistake to assume all Persians are in lock-step with typical portrayed middle east and Muslim hostile attitudes.

Got God, Grub, Guns & Gold?
Panic Early, Beat the Rush!

- Shane

I was looking at a report on another website where they said rioters over ran the riot control police in a number of towns.

 

[rhughe13]

And this is where I think people's faith in Uncle Sam is most seriously misplaced. There's some sense that we don't have to worry about national security threats because we pay taxes and the government will handle those affairs. So if our enemies intentions are "unthinkable", people don't have to think about it or believe it. Of course, in so doing, they opt to elect governments that don't think about these threats either, thereby sealing the fate of our nation.

Thus the old days of civil defense and bomb shelters since WWII. They didn't have the ultimate faith in proactive government protection back then either. I don't think we have advanced much since then.

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

Thus the old days of civil defense and bomb shelters since WWII. They didn't have the ultimate faith in proactive government protection back then either. I don't think we have advanced much since then.

Yep. In stark opposition to Russian society:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sWQ...oftruth.blogspot.com/&feature=player_embedded