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8:01 AM · Nov 27, 2022


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/simons-video-jennyfer-hatch-1.6641543

Why Quebec fashion retailer Simons is tackling medical aid in dying on its shopping website​

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Peter Simons says customers 'want to engage in difficult conversations'​


Rachel Watts · CBC News · Posted: Nov 09, 2022 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: November 9

The video featuring Jennyfer Hatch and her closest friends was shot near Tofino, B.C., in the month before her death. (Submitted by Tama Recker)
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Quebec-based retailer Simons made a deliberate move toward "inspiration" last month as part of a new video called All is Beauty.
The video is centred around and narrated by B.C.'s Jennyfer Hatch.

The 37-year-old died on Oct. 23 and chose medical assistance in dying (MAID) after dealing with complications and chronic pain associated with her diagnosis of Ehlers Danlos syndrome, a group of inherited disorders that affect the connective tissue supporting many body parts.
In the video, available on Simons's shopping website, viewers get a glimpse into some moments of Hatch's last month and hear her share her thoughts on life, death and her quest to fill her final days "with beauty, with nature and with connection."

Hatch sat along the shores of a beach as part of the Simons video. Simons says it committed to the filming process while promising it would 'destroy' the entire project if Hatch didn’t like the final product. (Simons)

Peter Simons, chief merchant for the fashion chain, says the documentary project started after meeting Hatch through the MAID program and travelling to Vancouver to talk about working on a unique film.

"We really felt — after everything we've been through in the last two years and everyone's been through — maybe it would resonate more to do a project that's less commercially oriented and more focused on inspiration and values that we hold dear," said Simons.
Simons says he thinks customers will appreciate the unconventional move.

"I learned early in my career not to underestimate our customers. They're intelligent and they're thoughtful and they want to engage in difficult conversations," he said.

"This isn't about MAID, it's really a story. It's a celebration of Jennyfer's life, and I think she has a lot to teach us."

'Uncharted territory' for Simons​

Simons says All Is Beauty is unlike any other project for the company to date. They gave Hatch "complete control" in telling her story as they set up unique scenes and experiences for Hatch and her closest friends in Tofino, B.C.
"I think there's something lost perhaps in the corporate world today of understanding that privilege comes with responsibilities and participating in the communities where we work," said Simons.

"Sometimes it won't be necessarily easy art. It will be harder art and that's part of engagement," he said. "Jennyfer's life was a piece of art."
"We were heading into sort of uncharted territory for us," said Simons. "I think everyone was just proud that she felt that we've done justice to her philosophy in life."

Simons says Hatch and friends were given a viewing of the film. It was released Oct. 24, the day after she died.
Her friends, Josh Dahling and Heather Mohan participated in the filming.
"It's still kind of fresh," said Dahling. "We all cried … We thought it was beautiful and our hopes are it'll continue to create these ripples."

'In an ideal world, she would have been here today'​

Dahling and Mohan were friends of Hatch but also colleagues of hers at the Lumara Grief and Bereavement Care Society.
Hatch was the organization's music therapist and was "passionate about the use of singing," Mohan said. Hatch helped clientele who dealt with serious illness, bereavement and grief.

The cello was one of Hatch's 'favourite things,' according to her friends. In one of the scenes of the video, Hatch was led to a cello player, who helped her feel the vibration of the instrument. (Simons)
Dahling says Hatch discussed her decision to pursue MAID often and says her hope was that the video would "broaden people's awareness" on the importance of dying in a "humane way."
"We, as a society, do so much to support bringing people into this world but we do very little to help take them out," said Dahling.
"I'll tell you she loved life. In an ideal world, she would have been here today… In no way was [pursuing medical assistance in dying] her wanting to leave the world because she didn't love living. And that takes a lot of courage and a lot of acceptance."


Quebec AM11:06All is Beauty: Jennyfer

Quebec-based store chain Simons has a new thought-provoking project called All is Beauty. The video tells the story of Jennyfer and her final days before receiving medical assistance in dying. Peter Simons, the chief merchant at Simons, tells Quebec AM host Julia Caron why it is important to make more "difficult" art, even as a company.

Filming experience was a 'profoundly beautiful thing'​

Tama Recker, a friend and colleague of Hatch, described the filming experience in September as a "profoundly beautiful thing".
"Nothing was directed, like nothing. It was very natural. It was actually these experiences set up just for her to very organically enjoy and it was magic," said Recker.

Jennyfer Hatch, left, and Tama Recker, right, sat on the beach when they were filming near Tofino. Her friends noted it was unseasonably beautiful for a region that usually gets a lot of rain. They said the sky was clear on the days they filmed. (Submitted by Ashley Bell)
Recker notes that although Hatch's story of pursuing MAID can be difficult for some people, the focus should be on inviting conversation on these topics.

"It isn't about what any of us believe, it's about honouring people having different choices and being able to choose things that honour and respect them," said Recker. "Jen was deeply honoured and respected in her choices — in the way she lived and in the way she died."

Jennyfer Hatch visited a farm in her final days. (Submitted by Josh Dahling)

Importance of 'conveying complex emotion'​


The final three-minute video has been watched more than a million times on YouTube.
It's not surprising the video has received so much attention, says Dr. Stefanie Green, an author, family doctor and co-founder and president of the Canadian Association of MAID Assessors and Providers (CAMAP).

"I think Canadians are ready for it. I mean, it's been six years we've been talking about and practising assisted dying," said Green, referring to the legalization of MAID in 2016.
"Assistance in dying is greatly supported by the vast majority of Canadians… I think [this video] it's what they hope MAID can be. And to see it come to fruition, to actually see it, visually, is probably reassuring for people."
It may be interesting for Canadians to see a brand engage in this conversation, says David Kenneth Wright, an associate professor in the school of nursing at the University of Ottawa.
"A corporation exists to make money and so it is a valid question about what are the motives here," said Wright, who specializes in the ethics of end of life care.
He says the discourse surrounding MAID before it was legalized in 2016 was very polarized. Although some of that still exists, he says sharing personal experiences, like those of Hatch, is a way to help people understand some of the nuance of this option.
"MAID is a stigmatized way of dying still. And even in the comments, I think to this video, you see some people reacting with 'I'm not going to shop at Simons again' or whatever," said Wright.

Simons set up a "dessert party" for Hatch and her closest friends in the forest near Tofino. (Submitted by Josh Dahling)
"I think it's really important to remember that this video is about a real person's end of life experience and any time a dying person chooses to spend their energy on changing the social conversations we're having about death, that needs to be treated with profound respect," he said.

"Any disagreements that someone might have with her message, and I have some, need to be offered from a place that honours her choice to contribute something meaningful in the short time that she had left before dying."

Wright notes that although the video may "denote the ugliness of hospital dying," death experiences and preferences vary significantly, person to person.

"Jennyfer says [the hospital] is not a place of softness, and softness is needed, but when hospital care is done well we actually do see that a soft end of life experience is possible," said Wright.

He notes the complexity of dying is important to emphasize, such as the scene from the video which showed a tear roll down Hatch's cheek.
"[That] is conveying complex emotion. I was happy to hear the line 'with all the pain there is still so much beauty' so there's an acknowledgement that beauty and pain kind of exist together in tension," said Wright.
"[Because] yes, there is a way of bringing beauty to the end of life, but the end of life is rarely only beautiful. The end of life is almost always a messy contradiction of beauty, of suffering, of joy, and of grief. And any creative or artistic portrayal of the end of life, including from a retailer, is going to be more authentic if it captures those tensions."
 

33dInd

Veteran Member
Not meaning to be mean or cruel as we all have known suicides in our friends and family
But with all the crazy’s and useless eaters out there. …………
 

amazon

Veteran Member
Not meaning to be mean or cruel as we all have known suicides in our friends and family
But with all the crazy’s and useless eaters out there. …………
Is that sarcasm? Or are you serious that "useless eaters" and "crazy" should consider suicide? I can't tell from your comment.
 

AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
A clothing retailer shooting commercials on assisted suicide? It's bizarre beyond belief.

It's interesting how the chain assumed customers want to have "hard conversations". I bet everyone who shops there wants these conversations. Thrown at them in store, and on TV. Just weird.....
 

Starrkopf

Veteran Member
Stuff like this makes me want to vomit. Totally in your face evil, worse than that though it's gaslighting to make you think You're crazy for opposing it and painting it as something that's good and that you should find socially acceptable.

This is nothing more than propaganda being used to literally bend reality and create social buy in. (and bring us further down the slippery slope to accepting even more evil down the line)
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Stuff like this makes me want to vomit. Totally in your face evil, worse than that though it's gaslighting to make you think You're crazy for opposing it and painting it as something that's good and that you should find socially acceptable.

This is nothing more than propaganda being used to literally bend reality and create social buy in. (and bring us further down the slippery slope to accepting even more evil down the line)
The distance beyond this all goes from the Third Reich's activities are humongous.

Remember this isn't just happening in Canada but the EU and several states in the US.
 

Starrkopf

Veteran Member
The distance beyond this all goes from the Third Reich's activities are humongous.

Remember this isn't just happening in Canada but the EU and several states in the US.
It has not escaped my attention. It's being pushed everywhere. This bothers me on a deep visceral level. I'm not even a big fan of humanity, we've failed on so many levels but where we are going is a place we should have never found ourselves again and I hate that we've not learned our lessons from history.
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
Stuff like this makes me want to vomit. Totally in your face evil, worse than that though it's gaslighting to make you think You're crazy for opposing it and painting it as something that's good and that you should find socially acceptable.

This is nothing more than propaganda being used to literally bend reality and create social buy in. (and bring us further down the slippery slope to accepting even more evil down the line)
the worship of moloch - not only alive and well - its growing by leaps and bounds.
 

BUBBAHOTEPT

Veteran Member
Is that sarcasm? Or are you serious that "useless eaters" and "crazy" should consider suicide? I can't tell from your comment.
Well, maybe some of those folks just need to keep getting boosted in stead of suicide. That would be better…. :whistle:
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
The issue is the stretch that they will apply, and it's not a long stretch to get there. All those sick people (from the vac) will need to be relieved of their lives, for the living of course. Health care being so stretched out and all.... the day is coming, as satan apply's it's powers to it's followers. Plenty will take the jobs offered...there's a reason for the millenium.

Come Lord Jesus
 

33dInd

Veteran Member
Is that sarcasm? Or are you serious that "useless eaters" and "crazy" should consider suicide? I can't tell from your comment.
Well
I’m not real sure
What’s your take???
All the crazy’s. The wockes. The welfare voters
Our western civilization is swirling down the drain right in front of our eyes.
You tell me. I really don’t kbow
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
Let the (spiritually) DEAD bury their (PHYSICALLY) DEAD.

Unless you be born again, you have NO LIFE IN (and of)YOU! Physical life is a here today, gone tomorrow. Spiritual life is eternal, God can replace the body.

Become MORE THAN HUMAN, become God's NEW CREATION IN JESUS CHRIST, with God's eternal SPIRIT indwelling YOU!
DISCIPLES of Christ, studying His Word to gradually know Him better and embody the mind of Christ!
 

Griz3752

Retired, practising Curmudgeon
More accurately it's La Maison Simons, HQ in Quebec. Oddly, given RC is probably the most dominant religion in that Province and historically opposed to suicide (assisted or not) Quebec was the 1st Jurisdiction in The Dominion to recognise and allow Assisted Death.

I think Turdo is a proponent and has been trying to work it into his platforms so there may be a linkage there: I don't know.

If that's the case, it's $$$ driven. Getting the elderly or anyone otherwise infirm to follow this path would reduce ### committed to pensions, healthcare and 'useless' medications. Right in line w/ get rid of the eaters.

ETA:
Peter Simons, 5th generation head of the privately held company, holds both CM (Order of Merit – Highest civilian Common Wealth Award) and CQ (National Order of Quebec) so he would seem to be well connected at high levels. A CM awarded to a Canadian is at the behest of the Canadian PM so I’m sure Simons and Turdo ‘know’ each other at some level.

My question then would be, "which way does the $$$$ flow and where's it hidden?"
 
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amazon

Veteran Member
It's not for me to judge who's a
Well
I’m not real sure
What’s your take???
All the crazy’s. The wockes. The welfare voters
Our western civilization is swirling down the drain right in front of our eyes.
You tell me. I really don’t kbow
Due to my religious beliefs, I don't think suicide is the answer. I can certainly understand the frustration of so many ignorant/lazy/crazy/evil people who are influencing society in a very negative way. However, I am not G-d. I do not know each individuals future. Also, due to my beliefs, I know some things must come to pass.

Who can decide which person's life is valuable and which persons is not? I don't know the future. I do not want to see society going down the path (any further) of deciding whose lives have value. Life is sacred. Some use their lives for good, some use their lives for evil. The overwhelming majority of us fall in the middle. There is no human that I trust to make these types of decisions. Though I fully expect this to become a part of our society in the near future.
 

SurvivalRing

Rich Fleetwood - Founder - author/coder/podcaster
A clothing retailer shooting commercials on assisted suicide? It's bizarre beyond belief.

It's interesting how the chain assumed customers want to have "hard conversations". I bet everyone who shops there wants these conversations. Thrown at them in store, and on TV. Just weird.....
It’s a hell of a lot easier than cleaning up the mess of my sister’s second husband, her good friend from high school.

They were drinking a lot one night, and both had long suffered issues with major depressive disorder.

She went to bed, leaving him sitting up in the living room watching tv. He went and fetched his shotgun, came back and sat down in his recliner, and blew his brains out.

She woke up sometime after, got out of bed, and found him dead. They were living in a nice neighborhood just east of central expressway, a few miles northeast of downtown. She went out into the front yard in absolute hysterics, and several neighbors came running over to try to help her.

Later that night, after her husband’s body had been picked up, and sister had gone to my mom’s house in Plano…she was still inebriated, and walked two blocks west to the rapid transit station that ended in Plano, and headed back home.

She got a rifle out of the closet, and a bunch of prescription bottles, and swallowed everything with the help of Jim Beam. Her daughter went looking for her, and found her at her home, unconscious in the living room. Straight to the ER, and in a coma for four long days, and they didn’t expect her to survive.

She lived with my mom for the next five years, and I feel she was responsible for mom exhausting herself which led to another back surgery, another digestive surgery soon after, that led directly to mom getting double pneumonia and dying from it.

Mom, dad, sister, and brother attempted or contemplated suicide in the late eighties or the nineties. Dad had cancer…mom had dad leave her in 1995 to spend his last few years with his first high school girlfriend.

I had my own issues after the accident in April 2018 that ended my working career…because of a drunk. I had ideated several bad thoughts, but didn’t follow through.

Suicide doesn’t solve answers. It isn’t a clean end. The fact that a nation is backing up the idea, to offer “easy” ways out for uncountable citizens ranks right up there with genocide…and we all know how THAT turns out.
 

33dInd

Veteran Member
It's not for me to judge who's a

Due to my religious beliefs, I don't think suicide is the answer. I can certainly understand the frustration of so many ignorant/lazy/crazy/evil people who are influencing society in a very negative way. However, I am not G-d. I do not know each individuals future. Also, due to my beliefs, I know some things must come to pass.

Who can decide which person's life is valuable and which persons is not? I don't know the future. I do not want to see society going down the path (any further) of deciding whose lives have value. Life is sacred. Some use their lives for good, some use their lives for evil. The overwhelming majority of us fall in the middle. There is no human that I trust to make these types of decisions. Though I fully expect this to become a part of our society in the near future.
I understand
And agree
It is a sin
And our society is condoning a sin
But….
 

Griz3752

Retired, practising Curmudgeon
Suicide doesn’t solve answers. It isn’t a clean end. The fact that a nation is backing up the idea, to offer “easy” ways out for uncountable citizens ranks right up there with genocide…and we all know how THAT turns out.
Assisted Death has been on the books in many EU nations for quite a while. I think The Netherlands was 1st to adopt it in the late 60s or early 70s but it may have been Belgium. Several other cuntries, many from the old British Commonwealth, have followed suite. In AUS & Canada, it's on a Prov or State basis, not National.

In the US, I want to say the "Death with Dignity" movement was champoioned by Jerry Brown (hack-spit) but CA may not have been 1st out of the gate.
 
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AlaskaSue

North to the Future
Snip from OP - quote from Simons: "I learned early in my career not to underestimate our customers. They're intelligent and they're thoughtful and they want to engage in difficult conversations,"

Implication being that if you aren't longing to engage in those difficult conversations (and further, the assisted suicide promo) then you're not one of the intelligent and thoughtful.

Seems in David Wilkerson's The Vision that he wrote about suicide becoming accepted, then glorified, then promoted...but it may have been another prophetic author on End Times. Been a while since I read that one.

- Rich, I'm so sorry you went through all that. I'm glad you didn't follow through when the thought was there.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
It's against my religion, as well.

But I understand that ultimately it's between the deceased and God and that some people with terminal medical conditions want to choose their exit point.
However, when we go down that slippery slope of legalizing assisted death, it paves the way for the gov't to take over and make the decision.

It's a no from me.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
Well, when I was born again I UNDERSTOOD that that meant I, my personal life, Ended. I had no problems, because ACCEPTING CHRIST DYING FOR ME MEANT I DIED WITH CHRIST!
THE Physical life that remains IS NOT MINE, it belongs to Christ, not me.
I became NO LONGER MERELY HUMAN, but a NEW CREATION OF GOD.
I IMMEDIATELY possessed ETERNAL LIFE, THROUGH HIS INDWELLING HOLY SPIRIT which came to dwell in me.

I cannot commit suicide, I AM DEAD ALREADY. I CAN ONLY KILL THE LIFE THAT BELONGS TO JESUS! THATS MURDER. God controls all things and he suffers with me when I suffer. It is NOT my decision it is His decision when I am to die. Till then I shall do all I can to keep alive His body.

So, it is not " just the rules of my religion"
IT IS WHAT I BELIEVE is right and true.
 
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amarilla

Veteran Member
As I christian I hope they don't commit suicide. However, if people do, maybe they should at this company's headquarters and stores. Maybe then they would pull those ads.
 
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ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
Were you there when they Crucified my Lord?
If you are Born again you can say YES!
That is the key to that hymn.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
Assisted Suicide makes perfect sense for retailers.
It means less money for medical care and more money healthy people to spend on retail.
Off a loved one . . . buy a new pair of shoes.
 

batterbiscuts

Veteran Member
LOL, i was working in a store that had a starbucks. I came up to the place and said, so what do you think about your companies ideas to have conversations about RACE. The three girls looked at me like im nuts. I pulled up the news article that was quoting starbucks corporate. Their your crazy look turned to deer in the headlights OMG WTF. the manager looks at me and goes. We arent going to be worried about that. We do sell coffee.

I imagine the poor girl folding clothes or whatever will have the same actions and thoughts with a canadian accent.
 

Babs

Veteran Member
It's their choice now. Won't be long until "right" becomes obligation, or the choice is made FOR you.
 

Grumphau

Veteran Member
There is a problem with this. This is definitely very creepy. For SOME conditions this service MIGHT be okay. But as euthanasia becomes more acceptable, there is necessarily creep to other conditions that are treatable by other means. Case in point by Angry Cops (Canada again):

View: https://youtu.be/AZq7FdkugXQ

RT 10:13 (and a lot of much deserved profanity)
 
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