ALERT Cain Contribution Causes Credit Card Hold

[pops88]

I just posted this on FreeRepublic and am posting it here for TB2K's benefit, too:

I tried to make a couple online purchases today and had my credit card denied. Living in a dead zone, I had to drive down the road and sit in a hot car to call Chase Bank. I was asked if yesterday I made a payment to "Friends of Herman Cain." I said,"yes." Customer service told me that is what triggered the hold, but could give no explanation why. It just triggered a hold alert despite my numerous online purchases. I'm furious. I told her it smacked of dirty politics. All she could say was, "sorry." I think this needs to be an alert to others, and I'd like to know if anyone else has encountered this problem. I don't like to be a conspiracy theorist, but this is just a little ridiculous.

 

[blueridge]

Or perhaps it was that "hot car" that caused the problem???



Just kidding - of course, it'll be very interesting if anyone else has a similar story to tell.

 

[Garryowen]

Good to know. It might be good to start a sticky thread to post such experiences. I tried to make a donation to the SBA List, and couldn't get it done online. I wondered if it might have been a political thing.

Thanks

GO

 

[45nut]

first thing I would do is contact the headquarters of Herman Cain to let them get on it before it grows legs.

 

[Amazed]

Yeah, I'd be raising Cain about it.




Sorry, I just can't help myself.

 

[Woolly]

What is the URL for the Herman Cain Campaign? I'd like to make a contribution.

Woolly

 

[pops88]

Herman Cain Campaign

I sent them an email about what happened. The reason I'm so upset and "tinfoil hatting" is because my husband and I always make unusual purchases and travel extensively. We've occasionally gotten holds when overseas, but I've never had a hold because of an internet transaction and I shop online extensively. I've also made campaign contributions online before. It's been years since I've had a hold, but a $10 contribution is enough to spark one? It doesn't make sense. Considering the credit card scandal surrounding the Bozo campaign, I wouldn't put something like this past them. Sure, it might be nothing, but if it's something I'd like to shine the light on it and see if it's happened to anyone else.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
(Attributed to) Edmond Burke

 

[Woolly]

Thanks, pops88. I've done the deed!

Woolly

 

[gelatinous]

If you had made a contribution to a liberal cause, they would have tripled your credit limit.

 

[45nut]

a tidbit I found while on the search for HC

Herman Cain, 2012 hopeful: "There's No Reason To Audit The Federal Reserve"
Submitted by Fortunateson on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 12:32
in

Daily Paul Liberty Forum


Herman Cain, former Chairman and Member of the Board of Directors for the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, flippantly denies the need to Audit the Federal Reserve while hosting the Neil Boortz Radio Show on 12/29/10

http://dailypaul.com/153575/herman-cain-2012-hopeful-theres-no-reason-to-audit-the-federal-reserve

I for one was unaware of his ties to the fed, til now. Nothing is mentioned about the time he spent with the Fed on his bio on his own site,, why?

http://www.hermancain.com/inner.asp?z=1

 

[Tucson Sal]

I never heard of this man until this thread -

 

[erichtmobile]

I for one was unaware of his ties to the fed, til now. Nothing is mentioned about the time he spent with the Fed on his bio on his own site,, why?

QUOTE]

because he is trying to woo conservative tea party type minded voters

The Fed aint exactly what he wants having tied with his name

i am watching the candidate carefully/hopefully

 

[pops88]

The Fed aint exactly what he wants having tied with his name

Joseph probably didn't want his name tied with Pharaoh either. I'm giving the man a chance. He had unique opportunities to get to where he is and gives God the credit. That and expressing conservative views means I'm not passing on him because he knows some Jesuits or worked for the Fed. There is such a thing as "know thy enemy." Maybe he's smart enough not to pull a JFK over the Fed to get himself offed before he can serve his purpose.

 

[45nut]

Joseph probably didn't want his name tied with Pharaoh either. I'm giving the man a chance. He had unique opportunities to get to where he is and gives God the credit. That and expressing conservative views means I'm not passing on him because he knows some Jesuits or worked for the Fed. There is such a thing as "know thy enemy." Maybe he's smart enough not to pull a JFK over the Fed to get himself offed before he can serve his purpose.

Seems like they know exactly what it IS we are looking for in a candidate,, know thy enemy goes both ways. I am not buying it and I am not buying what they are selling with the current poser either.

It would also be very easy for someone connected to the Fed to be able to compromise accounts and turn many of us into soylent green.

 

[Countrymouse]

I just posted this on FreeRepublic and am posting it here for TB2K's benefit, too:

I tried to make a couple online purchases today and had my credit card denied. Living in a dead zone, I had to drive down the road and sit in a hot car to call Chase Bank. I was asked if yesterday I made a payment to "Friends of Herman Cain." I said,"yes." Customer service told me that is what triggered the hold, but could give no explanation why. It just triggered a hold alert despite my numerous online purchases. I'm furious. I told her it smacked of dirty politics. All she could say was, "sorry." I think this needs to be an alert to others, and I'd like to know if anyone else has encountered this problem. I don't like to be a conspiracy theorist, but this is just a little ridiculous.

It wasn't Herman Cain.

There was some sort of rather LARGE credit-card glitch for the last couple of nights.

On Friday night, I made an Amazon.com purchase of a BUNCH of books. My purchases of books, CD's, and DVD's from Amazon are numerous and come fairly often, so there "should" have been no problem.

However, I got the next day to 12 messages on my email that my purchase had been "denied" due to a credit card "problem". I didn't find out until everything was closed, and so thought I'd have to wait till Monday.

Lo and behold, today it's as though nothing happened---all the purchases have gone through, the credit card "hold" or "Problem" or whatever appears "fixed"---but I still don't know what caused it.

My credit card, by the way, is a credit union Visa, so it doesn't appear to be the Bank---UNLESS -- could it have been Visa itself that had a "hiccup"?

You didn't mention whether your Chase card was a Visa card or not, but I find it interesting that you had the SAME problem, only with a different card issuer and payee.

I don't think, though, it had anything to do with Herman Cain specifically, since my purchase wasn't at all political in nature but the same thing happened in the SAME time period.

Maybe it was something to do with Paypal? Do you have that?

Edited to add:

All you folks who are trying to tie Herman Cain's past association with the Fed into this, by saying he'd compromize folks' bank accounts---do you hear yourself? Sure, I can see it now: "I'm going to run for President, so I'm going to ask for donations, and then when people try to donate to me, I'm going to cause problems with their bank / credit card accounts." Yeah, THAT will really bring him LOTS of votes and support!!! /sarcasm

 

[45nut]

Edited to add:

All you folks who are trying to tie Herman Cain's past association with the Fed into this, by saying he'd compromize folks' bank accounts---do you hear yourself? Sure, I can see it now: "I'm going to run for President, so I'm going to ask for donations, and then when people try to donate to me, I'm going to cause problems with their bank / credit card accounts." Yeah, THAT will really bring him LOTS of votes and support!!! /sarcasm

It was only myself making that connection,,and I'll add this: you think anything they do has to make sense to US? really? I question EVERYTHING.

 

[Countrymouse]

It was only myself making that connection,,and I'll add this: you think anything they do has to make sense to US? really? I question EVERYTHING.

Yes, but I wasn't contributing to Cain---I was making a purchase from AMAZON---and had the same thing happen, at the same time.

I just thought I'd mention it because it sounds to me like it was either VISA that had the computer glitch, or Paypal (since I think Amazon payments have to go through them, and the Cain site may be using that as its secure method as well)----either that, or something VERY screwy happened to ALL our credit cards this past weekend.

Which I really WOULD Like to get to the bottom of---and since I really don't believe Herman Cain has the power to control every single credit card purchase in the country, I'd like to hear others' explorations of ideas for what ACTUALLY may have happened...

 

[pops88]

Countrymouse, it was the bank it's self that put the hold on my card, triggered by the campaign contribution. The bank told me that was the transaction that was flagged. I've since read that the president of Chase is tight with Zero. Coincidence? Maybe, but I'm not a big believer in coincidences.

 

[Countrymouse]

Countrymouse, it was the bank it's self that put the hold on my card, triggered by the campaign contribution. The bank told me that was the transaction that was flagged. I've since read that the president of Chase is tight with Zero. Coincidence? Maybe, but I'm not a big believer in coincidences.

Okay.

maybe I'm not explaining this well.

Let me try again.

I HAD TROUBLE WITH MY CARD BEING FLAGGED ABOUT A YEAR OR TWO AGO---and it had NOTHING to do with the transaction at that time.

Then, it was a purchase of GAS at a GAS STATION---and because it was on a SUNDAY, some bean-counter somewhere working with Visa decided to flag it.

They ALMOST left me STRANDED, as I had no way to pay for the gas. THANK GOD my husband had another card, that they DID take.

I called the credit union folks, and THEY HAD JUST CHANGED THEIR POLICIES, and explained to me that their "new, improved" system required them to "block" any "unusual" transactions until they could CALL ME ON THE PHONE to confirm whether it was "me" doing the transaction or whether my card had been stolen.

I gave them an EARFUL about how I don't want to have to call my card company and tell them it's OK every time I make a charge, and THEY CHANGED THE STATUS OF MY ACCOUNT TO REMOVE THIS SUPER-SENSITIVE OVERSIGHT OF MY CARD USAGE.

Now---can you see how this would apply here?

Unless you make a habit of submitting campaign contributions---TO ANYBODY---OR EVEN TO MR. CAIN IN PARTICULAR---IF YOUR CREDIT CARD COMPANY HAS JUST INSTITUTED A SIMILAR POLICY, THEN ANY "UNUSUAL" (as in, he's never done THIS before) ACTIVITY WILL MAKE THEM PUT A CREDIT HOLD ON YOUR CARD.

If that is the case, then you, like me, will probably have to call them to tell them to back off---or you will find yourself unexpectedly and unpleasantly BLOCKED every time you do something "out of the ordinary" to your "usual" pattern of charges.

Since I have NOT changed my card's credit status back to the more stringent standards, this over-the-weekend glitch with Amazon makes me think maybe "they" just had a fluke.

However, maybe they've decided to "revert" to the more stringent policy---so I suppose I SHOULD call them tomorrow to find out WHAT the trouble was.

But I guaranTEE you they WON'T be telling me Herman Cain told them not to run my credit card to Amazon---and I'm 99.9% SURE he would NOT have wanted to STOP people making credit card contributions to HIMSELF----even if the "did" have that kind of power when he isn't even elected to anything yet....now, as for Obambam trying to put a hitch in things for Cain, well.... maybe....not much HE would do would surprise me...

 

[Vector]

Countrymouse, it was the bank it's self that put the hold on my card, triggered by the campaign contribution. The bank told me that was the transaction that was flagged. I've since read that the president of Chase is tight with Zero. Coincidence? Maybe, but I'm not a big believer in coincidences.

Roger that. JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon is an Obamabot, former Fed Governor, and his bank was one of the largest beneficiaries of the TARP theft.

Relations with the Obama AdministrationDimon is a Democrat and worked in President Obama's adopted hometown of Chicago. After Obama took office and JPMorgan Chase repaid its bailout money more quickly than most, he became influential in the White House although Dimon is not shy about disagreeing with the President. Dimon was one of three CEO's found by the Associated Press—along with Lloyd Blankfein and Vikram Pandit—to have had liberal access to United States Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner in the seven months after the financial crisis in fall 2008.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Dimon

 

[pops88]

Countrymouse,

I guess you missed my post where I stated my husband and I regularly make unusual transactions and I've given to other campaigns. We have a note about this on our account. Thus my question- why this, why now?

The reason I'm so upset and "tinfoil hatting" is because my husband and I always make unusual purchases and travel extensively. We've occasionally gotten holds when overseas, but I've never had a hold because of an internet transaction and I shop online extensively. I've also made campaign contributions online before. It's been years since I've had a hold, but a $10 contribution is enough to spark one? It doesn't make sense.

ETA: My husband gets double charged for thousands in Kyrgyzstan and they let the charges go through, but they question $10 to Cain? Nothing to see here folks. Move along. Doesn't pass my smell test.

 

[pops88]

You know, never mind. It was nothing more than a credit card glitch and my posts will hit the memory hole any second. Never mind past sophisticated election fraud. I've always felt called to be a watchman on the wall, but I'm done speaking to the ostriches. It's not worth my breath anymore.


Joel 2
King James Version
1Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;


Mark 6:4-6:6

 

[Genevieve]

Never in the last 7 years of using my Visa have I ever been denied until just recently. I needed a new copier and went to Office Max. Got denied and then approved after another try. Called them, they said : oh sorry, all fixed. Went to Kmart, 4 days later to buy some things we needed and got denied again. Girl had to punch it in manually. Had a message from fraud division on the phone. Call them. Ok. Got some female I could barely understand. Apparently there was a charge for something called : Web Hosting. ( lol when she said it I kept hearing RED hosting lol) That was the only charge I didn't know of.
So now I have to have a new card. And a new number and it's being investigated.
The thing is, I couldn't get anyone to tell me when that one charge was made. Why I was denied at Office Max.Thats where I always get my ink and stuff and have made charges there over the years.

I just found it strange.