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Walrus

Veteran Member
While this could be true, I really haven't seen any action other than the rapid shutdown.

Now obviously, things are happening behind the scenes, but until we get further down the line we won't know whether its a mad panic or a excellent crisis response.

And even if there is an excellent response, it doesn't ensure a great outcome.

In other words, its too soon for me to dismiss it with a "they got this"
True that - no guarantee at all of a great outcome. It's way too early for "they got this" and it sounds too Q-ish anyway, if you get my drift. The apparent response effort is what gives me at least more confidence that they're doing it right.

Without being on the inside, I can assure you that there's lots being done but it's not something they want to talk about a whole lot, obviously, as it compromises their opsec and leaves them vulnerable to countermoves. I don't think they know exactly yet what kind of tiger they've got by the tail; it looks pretty complex to me. But from what I'm seeing, they're doing the best they can with what they've got to work with, so we'll see what falls out of it.
 

Walrus

Veteran Member
There won't be a glut on the market, I don't think. What there will be is refineries beginning to slow - or shut down because they have no place to store or ship their refined fuel. This will create problems of their own for later into the summer.
Storage could be an issue as they've been building inventory both for summer driving and refinery turnaround seasons.

I should be getting an updated newsletter sometime this week which will include a spreadsheet on finished product inventory levels and what the trends are. It'll be revealing.
 

SmithJ

Veteran Member
Storage could be an issue as they've been building inventory both for summer driving and refinery turnaround seasons.

I should be getting an updated newsletter sometime this week which will include a spreadsheet on finished product inventory levels and what the trends are. It'll be revealing.
Lots of moving parts for sure.

And I agree with you, the odds are that the response will be spot on and the shutdown may have even only been proactive.

But the potential is there for a large effect if things go badly.......
 

Wildweasel

F-4 Phantoms Phorever
I agree, this make me think the leadership believes that this is a longer term problem.

From Houston to DC is a 21 hour non-stop trip. So for normal driving, that is 2 Days each way. If they started finding drivers today, and getting them on the road, it would be about 5 days before they got back and were able to do another load.

Where will they find the drivers with what appears to be a shortage of truck drivers?
It will take a unreasonable number of drivers to move a fraction of that fuel deficit instead of the pipeline.

Don't expect to see tankers driving from TX to DC. When the same declaration was issued following hurricane Katrina it was to allow drivers to extend their workday longer than 14 hours to cover additional time spent waiting to get loaded at more crowded fuel terminals.

Tankers won't be driving extra distances from their current delivery routes, but they are to be spending more time sitting, waiting their turn to be loaded for seconds of the day due to suddenly increased demand thanks to panic buying.tankers.jpg
 
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Publius

TB Fanatic
We will see how long they want to play this out! It's all about control over you, you and you.


Like I was posting how long will the shut down will last as I would expect them to have backup software to get things backup and running in just a few hours but! They did say it seems the hackers were after data/info like E-Mail and not trying to shut things down.
 

Lilbitsnana

On TB every waking moment
So, I went to get gas for my SUV this morning because I forgot to get some last night.
The biggest station in my immediate area (18 pumps for autos; not sure how many for semis) is the one I use most. They also are the closest station for semis near me. They were just putting a bag over the last automobile pump when I pulled in, so I had to go elsewhere.

The semis have to go behind the main building so I don't know what that side was like.

To be fair, this station has changed names at least 3 times in the last year or so and I think twice since Biden has been in office. Also, they have been closing off a few pumps at a time at least for a day or two ever since Biden took office.
But I have never seen them close off all of them.

It has been Kangaroo, Maverick I think and Circle K, but seems like I am forgetting one or more name changes.


I went thru town this morning and a nearby town.

Prices varied from $2.69 to $2.87 for regular unleaded. I only saw three of the diesel prices; $2.85, $2.87 and $2.89.

All stations but one or two, were up 10 to 15 cents/gallon.

The one that was $2.59 on Saturday is now $2.69, most are now $2.79, but two were $2.87.

One of the "exceptions" is the one that had closed off all the pumps; it had actually lowered it's price down to $2.65. Several pumps were still closed off, but there were cars at three of the pumps. I didn't pull in, so don't know if they were getting premium or diesel or what.

All of the higher priced stations had a large number of cars/trucks/lawn care equip waiting to fill up.
 

Henry Bowman

Veteran Member
Owner of pipeline shuttered by cyberattack aims to restore service by end of the week
PUBLISHED MON, MAY 10 202112:37 PM EDTUPDATED 40 MIN AGO

Pippa Stevens@PIPPASTEVENS13
KEY POINTS
  • Colonial said the situation “remains fluid and continues to evolve,” and that it’s following an incremental process that will return sections to service based on a phased approach.
  • Gasoline futures were slightly higher Monday afternoon on Wall Street, after spiking to their highest level in around three years during overnight trading.
Holding tanks are seen at Colonial Pipeline's Linden Junction Tank Farm in Woodbridge, New Jersey, U.S. in an undated photograph.

Holding tanks are seen at Colonial Pipeline’s Linden Junction Tank Farm in Woodbridge, New Jersey, U.S. in an undated photograph.
Colonial Pipelines | Reuters
Colonial Pipeline said Monday afternoon that parts of its system are being brought back online, and it hopes to restore service by the end of the week.

“Segments of our pipeline are being brought back online in a stepwise fashion, in compliance with relevant federal regulations and in close consultation with the Department of Energy, which is leading and coordinating the Federal Government’s response,” the company said in a statement.

The company said the situation “remains fluid and continues to evolve,” and that it’s following an incremental process that will return sections to service based on a phased approach.

“This plan is based on a number of factors with safety and compliance driving our operational decisions, and the goal of substantially restoring operational service by the end of the week,” the company said.
Gasoline futures were slightly higher early Monday afternoon on Wall Street, after spiking to their highest level in around three years during overnight trading.

“The initial price movement was a knee-jerk reaction, expecting severe or prolonged impacts to gasoline, and heating oil and other product supply,” said Darwei Kung, head of commodities at DWS Group. “I think people are looking at the situation right now, and understanding that the disruption probably is not nearly as severe as the initial knee-jerk reaction would imply.”
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
you all know they never had these problems before computers..
why not go back to no computers and then see if they get hacked..

And a lot of those skills in doing it manually are long gone as the last people that did that are firmly in retirement. Just like how the Navy has to entice people out of retirement to man the merchant marine reserve ships. Knowing how to operate and maintain those old ships with manual controls and boilers is a lost art. When the last of the old geezers die off I don't know what they will do.
 

Walrus

Veteran Member
And have to hire people with skilz and pay them real money to run things?
Never happen in corporate amerikka.
That's the reason they went to computers in the first place, was to lower their labor costs plus they got to take advantage of the tax breaks for capital investment in equipment.

But golly gee, the efficiency gurus didn't mention any of this as a possible downside when it was time to switch to automated, remote-control systems plus build these huge IT empires (which, by and large, have not produced much of anything until recent robotic improvements but they HAVE provided incomprehensible reams of data).
 

vector7

Dot Collector
Biden White House: It’s a “private sector decision” as to whether a ransom will be paid to bring the Colonial Pipeline back online
RT 1:09secs
View: https://twitter.com/JamesRagano/status/1391808658065997824


Flashbacks reflecting former Obama Administration energy policies:


President Biden declared war on the fuel industry. All oil production came to a screeching halt driving gas prices to exceed $9.25 per gal. Mil of comp are forced to close causing a homeless pandemic across the country. Food Pantries are finally open as America is now Bankrupt
RT 13secs
View: https://twitter.com/mcforgod/status/1240254232143503360


Biden Finally Tells Truth With Stunning Debate Confession! American’s AWAKE President Trump Has Not Only Made US Energy Independent & Now Biggest Exporter! We Were Chained To Middle East Fuel & Controlled Prices! (11:30)
Oct 23, 2020
View: https://youtu.be/JwLmnEAnElU


DAY 1: First day in office, president elect Biden is more worried about the climate change! Putting fuel prices up etc watch this!!! (4min)
Jan 21, 2021
View: https://youtu.be/fwPD-gi3y88


Obama Energy Policies:
Obama: My Plan Makes Electricity Rates Skyrocket (1min)
Barack Obama: "Under my plan, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket." (January 2008)
View: https://youtu.be/HlTxGHn4sH4


Never let a crisis go to waste:

They do NOT hide their Socialist Agenda & too many do NOT blink an eye! How #Dems NEVER Let a Crisis Go To WASTE to Further their TRUE agenda & Play Sick Politics - In THEIR own Words
RT 1:18secs
View: https://twitter.com/LadyRedWave/status/1260585445798248448


“IT’S ALL ABOUT THE POWER, BABY” -- @JasonInTheHouse
explains how the left "will never let a crisis go to waste"
RT 1min
View: https://twitter.com/NextRevFNC/status/1383970863830032385
 

coalcracker

Veteran Member
The lack of forward-thinking regarding infrastructure in the USA is startling indeed. If you’ve never read Ted Koppel’s book, Lights Out, you can perhaps live in blissful ignorance; but if you ever look into the matter, you will lose sleep. The word “vulnerable” strikes me as an understatement.

It’s not just hackers, either.

The one point that troubles me most is that our large transformers are not made here in this country. You know where they’re made. So, suppose China decides they don’t want to ship any? Then factor in the mammoth undertaking necessary to transport and install these beasts. It would take months in a calm world...
 

Zagdid

Veteran Member
It is hard to believe that a system this critical can't be recovered in a few hours from digital backups.
I once did an audit where I worked on a company procedure to back-up the critical mainframe computer system at regular intervals and store the back ups at an off site location. It turned out the IT guy just laughed about the notion of 'off-site' and informed me that back-ups took a really long time and 'those tapes' are expensive.
 

Walrus

Veteran Member
I once did an audit where I worked on a company procedure to back-up the critical mainframe computer system at regular intervals and store the back ups at an off site location. It turned out the IT guy just laughed about the notion of 'off-site' and informed me that back-ups took a really long time and 'those tapes' are expensive.
It was always a standing joke inside the various majors I worked for through the years: the IT people were the most dinosaur-like managers to work for, and were the worst at presenting solutions to a problem other than throwing money at it blindly.

Thinking about that, it made them at once both good Demonrats AND Republikrats.
 

et2

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Too many things happening to take America down to not believe we’re under attack. Despite it all ... remember Bidens corruption the last 12 years ...and connection to China. China Joe has us compromised beyond belief.

Covid (Fauci knew was coming) - lock down - riots - election fraud - militarization of the capital after 1/6/21 -Border being over run by illegals - social media manipulation - undermining our economy by paying people to not work - now a hack into our gas pipeline.

This is a test run IMHO. I can’t help thinking we are real close to being attacked on a much larger scale.
 

phloydius

Veteran Member
Some random people (this afternoon) on the internet on the internet who could just as easily be lying, are saying they are seeing stations run out of one type of gas or another in NC, GA, & TN. Any one here that can give a first hand report, or from someone they know (or local news)?
 

Jez

Veteran Member
My son just completed a two year program for cyber security. He says the threat against our infrastructure is real and massive. A determined group could cripple the FUSA it a matter of days. Think Die Hard With a Vengance
I'm transitioning into Cybersecurity and I can corroborate his concerns about the vulnerability of infrastructure. Companies pretty much ignored warnings because they felt their automation was safe because it was obscure and or proprietary. They thought "who would want to hack their control systems?" Stuxnet pretty much demonstrated that the danger was real and provided the way to do it too. Unlike bombs, cyberweapons can be reverse engineered and repurposed. Imagine being able to send a missile back to the guy that tried to use it on you.

Russia has an active Cyberwarfare unit and the willingness and reputation for employing it. That being said, I'm not convinced they are responsible for this attack. To date I'm only aware of them unleashing cyberweapons in areas where they are active militarily. My WAG (wild ass guess) could be Chinese or North Korea, leaning towards Chinese.
 

Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane

Meet The Ransomware Group Behind Colonial Pipeline Shutdown: 'Our Goal Is Cash Not Chaos'
Tyler Durden's Photo

BY TYLER DURDEN
MONDAY, MAY 10, 2021 - 02:23 PM
Here we go again as we first predicted, the Colonial Pipeline systems hack which took America's largest fuel pipeline offline is being widely blamed on who else but...Russia - as CNN reports, "A criminal group originating from Russia named 'DarkSide' is believed to be responsible for a ransomware cyberattack on the Colonial Pipeline, according to a former senior cyber official."

But then there was this key caveat amid the breathless "Russia-linked hacking" headlines: "Although Russian hackers often freelance for the Kremlin, early indications suggest that this was a criminal scheme — not an attack by a nation-state — the sources said."
Via Daily Mail

A rare emergency declaration from the Department of Transportation had followed on the heels of the Colonial Pipeline shutdown, lifting regulations on truck drivers aimed at efforts to mitigate the impact of lack of fuel transport in the coming days. For example the emergency relaxing of restrictions allows the truckers more overtime hours and drops prior sleep-time regulations.

So given the escalating crisis on growing fears that the Colonial shutdown could last for much longer than initially expected, the Biden administration is now probing the possibility of a state-linked hack, and again all inter-agency eyes are likely on the Kremlin after a relatively new group called "DarkSide" was named by officials on Monday.

"The FBI confirms that the DarkSide ransomware is responsible for the compromise of the Colonial Pipeline networks," the agency wrote in a Monday statement. And more on the mysterious group:
  • White House officials said at a press briefing that the FBI has been investigating the DarkSide ransomware since October of last year.
  • "It's a ransomware as a service variant, where criminal affiliates conduct attacks and then share the proceeds with the ransomware developers," deputy national security adviser Anne Neuberger said.

But then there's this:
In its own statement, the DarkSide group hinted that an affiliate may have been behind the attack and that it never intended to cause such upheaval. Like some other ransomware groups, DarkSide offers to sell its malware to others in what is known as "ransomware-as-a-service," according to the cybersecurity firm Cybereason.

DarkSide further described itself as "apolitical" in a statement posted Monday on its website. The group said, "We are apolitical, we do not participate in geopolitics, do not need to tie us with a defined government and look for our motives. Our goal is to make money, and not creating problems for society. From today we introduce moderation and check each company that our partners want to encrypt to avoid social consequences in the future."
And by Monday afternoon...
  • BIDEN: NO EVIDENCE THAT RUSSIA IS INVOLVED IN PIPELINE HACK

So once again despite the already ubiquitous "Russia hack" headlines still flooding the internet, the cyberbreach using Darkside ransomware could literally have anyone in possession of the tool behind it.

Multiple reports are now softening the initial 'Russia hack' claims from late Sunday and earlier Monday, describing instead a more ambiguously worded "criminal gang" scenario which might be tied to Russia.

The Department of Energy is now said to be leading the federal response to both the shutdown and the cyberattack investigation, which also involves the FBI and Department of Homeland Security.

At the moment the main Texas to New Jersey lines remain offline, but some smaller lines between terminals are operational, Colonial had announced Sunday.
 
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Walrus

Veteran Member
Nope, he probably put Kamala on the job.
She's a real go getter on these special assignments.
She's going to be one busy girl - shuttling back and forth with all her trips to the border plus solving the pipeline problem along with all her other duties such as greeting foreign dignitaries at the White House. She'll put Kissinger's shuttle diplomacy to shame!
 

Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane

The Federal Bureau of Intentional Lying Claims Fuel Pipeline Cyber Attack is Darkside Ransomware
May 10, 2021 | Sundance | 262 Comments
The Federal Bureau of Intentional Lying (FBI-L) has claimed the Colonial Pipeline Network was compromised by a hack from Darkside Ransomware:
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“The FBI confirms that the Darkside ransomware is responsible for the compromise of the Colonial Pipeline networks. We continue to work with the company and our government partners on the investigation.” (LINK)

When the state police tell us something prudence dictates we evaluate their motive against previous state police statements and make an independent decision. That’s the basis of not being a victim to professional lying. That said, which is more likely:

A) A random cyber-hack from a dubious eastern-European source, has compromised the refined fuel capacity in the United States?
~ OR…
B) The FBI, a political division -and state police- acting on behalf the U.S. intelligence community, are making this claim in order to provide cover for the Biden administration’s purposeful policies that are skyrocketing the price of fuel?

I’m thinking, well, option B?…
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Jez

Veteran Member

Meet The Ransomware Group Behind Colonial Pipeline Shutdown: 'Our Goal Is Cash Not Chaos'
Tyler Durden's Photo's Photo

BY TYLER DURDEN
MONDAY, MAY 10, 2021 - 02:23 PM
Here we go again as we first predicted, the Colonial Pipeline systems hack which took America's largest fuel pipeline offline is being widely blamed on who else but...Russia - as CNN reports, "A criminal group originating from Russia named 'DarkSide' is believed to be responsible for a ransomware cyberattack on the Colonial Pipeline, according to a former senior cyber official."

But then there was this key caveat amid the breathless "Russia-linked hacking" headlines: "Although Russian hackers often freelance for the Kremlin, early indications suggest that this was a criminal scheme — not an attack by a nation-state — the sources said."
Via Daily Mail

A rare emergency declaration from the Department of Transportation had followed on the heels of the Colonial Pipeline shutdown, lifting regulations on truck drivers aimed at efforts to mitigate the impact of lack of fuel transport in the coming days. For example the emergency relaxing of restrictions allows the truckers more overtime hours and drops prior sleep-time regulations.

So given the escalating crisis on growing fears that the Colonial shutdown could last for much longer than initially expected, the Biden administration is now probing the possibility of a state-linked hack, and again all inter-agency eyes are likely on the Kremlin after a relatively new group called "DarkSide" was named by officials on Monday.

"The FBI confirms that the DarkSide ransomware is responsible for the compromise of the Colonial Pipeline networks," the agency wrote in a Monday statement. And more on the mysterious group:
  • White House officials said at a press briefing that the FBI has been investigating the DarkSide ransomware since October of last year.
  • "It's a ransomware as a service variant, where criminal affiliates conduct attacks and then share the proceeds with the ransomware developers," deputy national security adviser Anne Neuberger said.

But then there's this:


DarkSide further described itself as "apolitical" in a statement posted Monday on its website. The group said, "We are apolitical, we do not participate in geopolitics, do not need to tie us with a defined government and look for our motives. Our goal is to make money, and not creating problems for society. From today we introduce moderation and check each company that our partners want to encrypt to avoid social consequences in the future."
And by Monday afternoon...
  • BIDEN: NO EVIDENCE THAT RUSSIA IS INVOLVED IN PIPELINE HACK

So once again despite the already ubiquitous "Russia hack" headlines still flooding the internet, the cyberbreach using Darkside ransomware could literally have anyone in possession of the tool behind it.

Multiple reports are now softening the initial 'Russia hack' claims from late Sunday and earlier Monday, describing instead a more ambiguously worded "criminal gang" scenario which might be tied to Russia.

The Department of Energy is now said to be leading the federal response to both the shutdown and the cyberattack investigation, which also involves the FBI and Department of Homeland Security.

At the moment the main Texas to New Jersey lines remain offline, but some smaller lines between terminals are operational, Colonial had announced Sunday.
Hmm. Russian hire to hack group. I wonder who hired them. Maybe the Russians are more involved than I originally thought. Looks like I stand corrected.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
They are trying to regulate something already connected...by pipes. As everybody here must know, I am about as computer illiterate as they come even though I do have a Linux programmed computer. ( I mess around with it)

Anyway, with a pipe connecting everything, seems to me they could come up with some scheme that would make them totally invulnerable to hacking because nobody could get at it. Maybe when they lay new pipe, a fiber optic cable buried right along side that connected the computers.
 
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