1911user
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I like that bush pot. It could be used in several different ways. I don't have a good billy pot.
FOOD BOB & hiking stoves and small cooking kits - several items reviewed (Many pictures)
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I like that bush pot. It could be used in several different ways. I don't have a good billy pot.
Back in the 90s I bought a Coleman Apex II and used it for a while before I somehow managed to melt the hose that connects between the tank and burner, after that I was convinced this style pack stove was not the way to go and along with all the other problems I read about with them with the MSR's, so back to the Svea 123 that never fails to work.
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Jackpine Savage
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Good to know. I don't have that many hours on the apex. I bought it for a somewhat more lightweight option, but most of my camping has been out of a canoe or sled and weight hasn't been the top concern. I always seem to grab the old reliables.
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ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
x-GK used to have a solid tube from SIGG bottle to stove.....
LOVE my WHisperlite only it's old enough to only run on white gas/coleman
LOVE my WHisperlite only it's old enough to only run on white gas/coleman
Almost nothing is better outdoors than a -decent- mug of hot coffee, first thing in the morning. The faster, the better for me.
I've come up with a personal brew kit that is very compact, very lightweight, fast and makes gourmet level coffee.
- Olicamp Ion Micro stove. Amazingly small, lightweight and powerful. It will boil three cups of water (in the Snow Peak coffee press) in about three and a half minutes. The little monster is loud however. A real blowtorch.
- TOAKS 550 ml (2 cup) titanium pot/mug. Very lightweight and large enough to hold a folding spoon, the Ion Micro stove and a small iso/butane gas cartridge.
- Snow Peak Titanium 3 cup French Press. Became the go to coffee maker when camping with DD and her twenty something hipster friends. It makes the only coffee that I will drink black. Works great also to boil water for Mountain House or dehydrated meals.
I've come up with a personal brew kit that is very compact, very lightweight, fast and makes gourmet level coffee.
- Olicamp Ion Micro stove. Amazingly small, lightweight and powerful. It will boil three cups of water (in the Snow Peak coffee press) in about three and a half minutes. The little monster is loud however. A real blowtorch.
- TOAKS 550 ml (2 cup) titanium pot/mug. Very lightweight and large enough to hold a folding spoon, the Ion Micro stove and a small iso/butane gas cartridge.
- Snow Peak Titanium 3 cup French Press. Became the go to coffee maker when camping with DD and her twenty something hipster friends. It makes the only coffee that I will drink black. Works great also to boil water for Mountain House or dehydrated meals.
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Its all about finding or picking what will work for you. Best to do some careful research before plunking down your money for a product. If you decide on a canister (butane) stove try to find out how many other similar stove's share the same butane canister as fuel availability is a important factor.
I posted some photos on the first page of this thread showing a kit I put tougher for my self, the pot holds 3 1/2 cups and the stove runs on Coleman fuel or white gas, it will boil that 3 1/2 cup pot in three and a half minutes, not bad for a stove that only puts out 4,800 BTU. The pot is the Optimus Terra Week Ender HE, and has a heat exchanger on the bottom and it does make a big difference.
Red Baron's post above he has a neat kit for himself and everything appears to nest into the cup he has, this helps keep everything tougher and smart space saving.
I posted some photos on the first page of this thread showing a kit I put tougher for my self, the pot holds 3 1/2 cups and the stove runs on Coleman fuel or white gas, it will boil that 3 1/2 cup pot in three and a half minutes, not bad for a stove that only puts out 4,800 BTU. The pot is the Optimus Terra Week Ender HE, and has a heat exchanger on the bottom and it does make a big difference.
Red Baron's post above he has a neat kit for himself and everything appears to nest into the cup he has, this helps keep everything tougher and smart space saving.
Yeah but...
RB is a Gear Ho.
Probably has a different cooking rig for every outdoor culinary extravaganza.
RB is a Gear Ho.
Probably has a different cooking rig for every outdoor culinary extravaganza.
Yeah but...
RB is a Gear Ho.
Probably has a different cooking rig for every outdoor culinary extravaganza.
I'm cool with that, my self take cooking a little more seriously even in a primitive back country setting. Truck camping in what is thought to be a very primitive camp ground I have done some gourmet cooking in Dutch Ovens and on Coleman stoves that the people with me did not think was posable and the Dutch Ovens even gets the attention of other campers out for a walk/hike and wanting to know more about it.
Yeah but...
RB is a Gear Ho.
Probably has a different cooking rig for every outdoor culinary extravaganza.
Guilty as charged . . .
1911user
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I've wondered about the heat exchanger pots and how much they helped. It seems like they might compensate for the small flame area of the rocket-type (tiny, but loud) stoves for wider bottom pots.
EDIT: copied picture from Publius post on page 1 for reference.
It works and Optimus makes a few bigger cook kits with the heat exchanger, many say it not only works but it puts that extracted heat at the outside edge of the pot where it does the most good and that it saves fuel.
Thanks for this thread. I bough both of the stoves in the original post. Both are great.
But I really like the set-up using the Stanley covered pot with cups, micro stove and fuel container.
A trip to target had the Stanley pot with cups priced at $5.68 each, I'm assuming this is a clearance price?
There was three left so I bought all three. Then I bought a 3-pack of the micro stoves at Amazon for $19.99 for 3
A trip to REI I bought several fuel cartridges at $4.95 each for 110gr jetfoil brand
In the end I now have three Christmas gifts consisting of the cooking pot, stove and fuel all in one, with one of the two cups left out....but everything fit so nice inside the pot. Total cost was $17.30 (before tax) for each gift set.
Thanks much 1911user
1911user
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That's a good idea for a practical gift and very good pricing on the stanley pots. I'm glad the idea worked for you.
TheGatherer
Senior Member
I'm clearing out some of the stoves I've collected.. One day you look around and there's 4-5 stoves you're not using. Such as NIB Primus Himalaya Multifuel MFS 3288 that I bought to replace my MSR Dragonfly that sounds like a jet airplane when it's burning, but the Himalaya is missing the adapter to the pump which seems harder to find than the Holy Grail (I didn't know this when I bought it), it will work on a butane/propane canister but that's not what I wanted.. I also have 2 MSR Whisperlite 600 International which are multifuel and a MSR Whisperlite 600 that will only work on paraffin/coleman fuel, all are good stoves and provided excellent service, but no adjustable flame which never seemed to be a problem when hiking.. I'm not a 'minimalist' weight wise when backpacking, but I did get a Swedish Triangia alcohol burner without the cookset and put it in a (?) online 'stick-burner' it's economical with fuel when cooking and lightweight.. A very vintage Coleman 2 burner from the early '60's works great and better than the newer 2 burner dual-fuel that I bought a propane adapter and it served real well in the '04 hurricanes here, also a Coleman 1 burner that stays in my truck box and has been used for coffee or to warm up a meal often... Somehow I got a Coleman Model 1957 military one burner that needs pump leathers and a good cleaning, but it's a memento from an earlier time and I don't think I'll use it again... Camping/Hiking stoves are right up there with flashlights with me, they just keep showing up...
20Gauge
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This is not too far from my concerns. We are still evolving our BOBs with the intent of having a 2 layer approach to the process. As we plan on leaving by vehicle, we will have a stove with 2 burners. In other words a classic camp cook stove. The 2nd part is to have a stove we can use in the BOB. Right now we simply have a couple of small grills to stick in our packs that we can use over a small fire. Working on something better.
The concern is one of how much is enough for cooking and what can we carry if needed. Right now, open fire method is our best option for longer term use while having to hoof it.
20Gauge
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My issue is we are gathering what we need and now I have to size out a couple of packs for us to use. I like to molle attachments from such packs that 511 offers, but not really sure if it is what I need.
We are planning to be able to make 7 - 10 days as if we are forced out of our home, it will for nothing less than that. The last time people in our area, (SE GA) we forced to leave, they didn't let anyone back for 4 - 5 days.
It is amazing just how much stuff you try and take in order to have a half-way decent experience.
LOL
We are planning to be able to make 7 - 10 days as if we are forced out of our home, it will for nothing less than that. The last time people in our area, (SE GA) we forced to leave, they didn't let anyone back for 4 - 5 days.
It is amazing just how much stuff you try and take in order to have a half-way decent experience.
LOL
1911user
Veteran Member
Unless very cold weather was a big concern, look at the larger stove in post #2. I would put one of those stoves and 2 or 3 of the 8oz fuel canisters in each backpack. 2 stoves lets you cook 2 things at once for meal variety. Add a compact pot/pan set, plates, utensils, etc. for more normal cooking in one pack. Put one of the 24oz stanley cook kits from post #1 (with 2 cups) in the other pack. That would set you for cooking a basic meal or just quickly making a hot cup of something. If you lose either one of the backpacks or get separated, then you'll each still have a stove, some fuel, and something to cook/eat with. Food is up to you, but I would have 2-3 mountain house pouches in each pack for something quick, easy, and filling if you have to move quickly.
Many along the way find they really do not need some item and in some cases gets replaced with something smaller and or lighter and your always looking for ways to make the most of the backpack space you have to work with.
Car or truck camping bulk and weight seems less of a problem, but even then reducing the bulk and overall load is a goal many work at, example bringing a 30" bow saw when you can buy a 15" or 21" Sven-Saw (backpack size)when folded up is very compact and lighter weight and it will cut all the firewood you need fast and or make shelters with it. They do sell cook kits thats just right for this kind of camping with bigger pots, fry pans and some even come with dishes and all of it nests tougher in a neat package.
20Gauge
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That is very much like what we have been thinking. We have 2 sets of everything possible. We both have meal kits, water bottles and simply, (really simple) cook kits. We also are testing to see what Mountain House the wife will accept. ( I am not picky ) and then we will have several for each of us set aside. We also have a tote filled with 14 days of food that we can just grab and go. I just have to work it out so she has 25 lbs and I have about 50 lbs to carry if needed. Not 100% sure if that will work, but it is plan A or was it B? LOL
20Gauge
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We have basic cook kits all set. My issue is more of making sure we can cook what we need when we need it. So we are on the what is the best stove for us search. IT never ends....lol
20Gauge
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Agreed with the car or truck camping bit. I am working on the plan b part where we are forced to move on without a vehicle. Not a bit possibility but then again who knows. Better to plan for it and not need it.
I encourage anyone looking at bug-out plan and doing it with a backpack on foot and even bugging-out with a car or truck, to go do some casual two day camping at a public camp ground's or even an over night on hiking trail's.
This will allow you to not only test your equipment but find out if what you bring with you is working for you and or not needed and in some cases later at home doing some serious researching for something desirable and suitable you did not have.
Colder temps things tend get bulkier (clothing & sleeping bag) and you may find some of your equipment is not up to the task and even needing a bigger pack, do keep in mind that some of the so called ulna-light gear is not as durable as some of the slightly heaver more durable items on the market, so one must decide where to sacrifice or trade off on an item.
This will allow you to not only test your equipment but find out if what you bring with you is working for you and or not needed and in some cases later at home doing some serious researching for something desirable and suitable you did not have.
Colder temps things tend get bulkier (clothing & sleeping bag) and you may find some of your equipment is not up to the task and even needing a bigger pack, do keep in mind that some of the so called ulna-light gear is not as durable as some of the slightly heaver more durable items on the market, so one must decide where to sacrifice or trade off on an item.
20Gauge
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Always a good idea.
Nowski
Let's Go Brandon!
This is an excellent thread.
I have an assortment of backpacking stoves and cook kits,
going back at least 35 years. As the technology changed
with the equipment, I upgraded, always looking for
the lightest possible equipment.
Ounces is pounds, and pounds is pain.
Today, the kit that I would carry into the woods,
is sub 10 pounds. However due to my advanced age,
I no longer spend much time in the woods,
especially the deep woods of a wilderness.
My backpacking equipment, at least most of it has
been repositioned as bug out gear.
Here are some pics of the stoves and cooking kits,
that I have used for the past 35 years.
To the left are the MSR stoves, which have been
on the AT, with the WhisperLite spending time
at Mt. Washington NH. Next is the Pocket Rocket,
which has seen extensive use in many wilderness areas,
and would be my goto stove if I had to pick just one.
It is paired with the MSR titanium pot,
which will hold the smallest MSR gas canister,
and the Pocket Rocket.
Next is the White Box stove, and EverNew titanium pot.
The stove and pot, are in my PathFinder canteen case,
along with other EDC items. Most everything is in that case,
for a weekend in the woods.
To the right, are the Pathfinder Skool canteen kit,
and the Pathfinder Skool bush pot kit.
Both kits came with a stove, that allows the pots
to be placed onto a bed of coals, with the bailer
on the bush pot, allowing it to be suspended over a fire.
I was going to take the Pathfinder Skool Bushcraft course,
but I got sick, and wasnt able to get there.
Perhaps someday, I will be able to again spend lots
of time in the woods.
Please be safe everyone, and please arm up.
Regards to all deplorables.
Nowski
I have an assortment of backpacking stoves and cook kits,
going back at least 35 years. As the technology changed
with the equipment, I upgraded, always looking for
the lightest possible equipment.
Ounces is pounds, and pounds is pain.
Today, the kit that I would carry into the woods,
is sub 10 pounds. However due to my advanced age,
I no longer spend much time in the woods,
especially the deep woods of a wilderness.
My backpacking equipment, at least most of it has
been repositioned as bug out gear.
Here are some pics of the stoves and cooking kits,
that I have used for the past 35 years.
To the left are the MSR stoves, which have been
on the AT, with the WhisperLite spending time
at Mt. Washington NH. Next is the Pocket Rocket,
which has seen extensive use in many wilderness areas,
and would be my goto stove if I had to pick just one.
It is paired with the MSR titanium pot,
which will hold the smallest MSR gas canister,
and the Pocket Rocket.
Next is the White Box stove, and EverNew titanium pot.
The stove and pot, are in my PathFinder canteen case,
along with other EDC items. Most everything is in that case,
for a weekend in the woods.
To the right, are the Pathfinder Skool canteen kit,
and the Pathfinder Skool bush pot kit.
Both kits came with a stove, that allows the pots
to be placed onto a bed of coals, with the bailer
on the bush pot, allowing it to be suspended over a fire.
I was going to take the Pathfinder Skool Bushcraft course,
but I got sick, and wasnt able to get there.
Perhaps someday, I will be able to again spend lots
of time in the woods.
Please be safe everyone, and please arm up.
Regards to all deplorables.
Nowski
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Someone makes a Titanium GI style canteen thats lighter weight but it will cost you $160. I've looked at the Pathfinder canteen and not to bad for weight and my self would toss the cup lid and stand and just keep the cup and canteen. One thing I like about the canteen is its all metal, so you can completely remove the cap and boil questionable water or thaw it out should get frozen next to a fire or backpack stove
AHAH!!
That's the answer to my particular situation.
My main scenario is getting home from afar...afoot.
I carry some MH in the truck and a GI cup, but no stove. Figgered a coupla rocks and would have to do.
Don't want LP or bottled fuel in the cab or toolbox.
When working ice storms, I load a 24qt ice chest with stove and extra rations, but don't carry it on a regular basis.
If I can't find a stove stand locally....off to the fab shop. Maybe take a cup and section it on 2 axis so that it is a slip-fit on a unaltered cup.
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1911user
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I want one of the 2 quart bushcraft pots like in this post from page 1, but they're still out of stock: http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...eviewed-(Many-pictures)&p=6810021#post6810021
It is stainless steel, has a bail that locks in different positions, has a pour spout, has a fitted steel lid, and has folding handles on the side for pouring.
link to the pot: https://www.selfrelianceoutfitters.com/products/stainless-steel-bush-pot-lid-set-64oz
It is stainless steel, has a bail that locks in different positions, has a pour spout, has a fitted steel lid, and has folding handles on the side for pouring.
link to the pot: https://www.selfrelianceoutfitters.com/products/stainless-steel-bush-pot-lid-set-64oz
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1911user
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https://www.selfrelianceoutfitters....ooking/products/stainless-steel-canteen-stove (they also have other cooking items you might find useful.)
I want one of the 2 quart bushcraft pots like in this post from page 1, but they're still out of stock: http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...eviewed-(Many-pictures)&p=6810021#post6810021
It is stainless steel, has a bail that locks in different positions, has a pour spout, has a fitted steel lid, and has folding handles on the side for pouring.
link to the pot: https://www.selfrelianceoutfitters.com/products/stainless-steel-bush-pot-lid-set-64oz
Some call that by an old name! Billy Pot or Billy Can.
Jackpine Savage
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Four Dog makes similar pot. Anodized aluminum. From a quick look I think the bail might only lock straight up, not sure.
http://fourdog.com/1-8-liter-mors-camp-pot/
http://fourdog.com/1-8-liter-mors-camp-pot/
Ok; I bought myself a fuel bottle to refill my Svea 123R pack stove and its made by Trangia it holds .5 liter or a little more than a pint in size. It will allow me to refill the Svea 123R four times for a total of four hours of use. Now this Trangia Fuel Bottle is a multi-fuel bottle and not just for alcohol and the bottle is well made and nearly crush proof plastic and weighs almost nothing empty and the main feature of this fuel bottle is its valve for dispensing the fuel and well thought out design and I will provide a link to a YouTube video that will show it in use and how it works. So anyone with liquid fuel stove that wants safe way to carry extra fuel with them I recommend this item.
Trrangia offers this in three sizes 1/3 liter, .5 liter and 1 liter.
LINK to YouTube Video (time 10:26): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjYSilTarh8
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=148401&stc=1&d=1526351571
Trrangia offers this in three sizes 1/3 liter, .5 liter and 1 liter.
LINK to YouTube Video (time 10:26): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjYSilTarh8
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=148401&stc=1&d=1526351571
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using the 'heads and tails' from distilling moonshine will work excellent in this
high alcohol content, and otherwise wasted
yesterday I used some outcasts from distilling to clean my hands of epoxy
1911user
Veteran Member
I picked up a new camp cook pot during a walmart clearance sale. It's versatile and compact enough to be handy for a backpack or truck carry. Add a small skillet and heat source to complete a small cook kit.
It's a Stanley Adventure Prep + Cook Set. It has a 1.5 quart stainless steel pot with a stainless lid that can strain liquid. It also has two 20oz plastic bowls with covers and 2 take-down utensils (ladle and spatula) that fit inside. The pot is 6.5" diameter and 4.4" tall.
It wouldn't be hard to leave a few things out and put an 8oz isobutane fuel container inside and have it be part of a cook kit like the first few posts.
EDIT: 1 bowl and one 8oz isobutane container will fit with the lid on and handle locked over the lid. No room for a stove.
Has anyone else added something new/interesting to their camp cooking equipment?
Walmart link ($25): https://www.walmart.com/ip/Stanley-Adventure-Prep-Cook-Set/33315085
Amazon link (more expensive): https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-Adventure-Prep-Stainless-10-01715-012/dp/B07JGM5SF4/ (better pictures)
It's a Stanley Adventure Prep + Cook Set. It has a 1.5 quart stainless steel pot with a stainless lid that can strain liquid. It also has two 20oz plastic bowls with covers and 2 take-down utensils (ladle and spatula) that fit inside. The pot is 6.5" diameter and 4.4" tall.
It wouldn't be hard to leave a few things out and put an 8oz isobutane fuel container inside and have it be part of a cook kit like the first few posts.
EDIT: 1 bowl and one 8oz isobutane container will fit with the lid on and handle locked over the lid. No room for a stove.
Has anyone else added something new/interesting to their camp cooking equipment?
Walmart link ($25): https://www.walmart.com/ip/Stanley-Adventure-Prep-Cook-Set/33315085
Amazon link (more expensive): https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-Adventure-Prep-Stainless-10-01715-012/dp/B07JGM5SF4/ (better pictures)
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