Bill imposes hefty 'spyware' fines

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Bill imposes hefty 'spyware' fines


Associated Press, via CNN.com
Tuesday, October 5, 2004

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Companies and others that secretly install "spyware" programs on people's computers to quietly monitor their Internet activities would face hefty federal fines under a bill the House passed Tuesday.

The most egregious behaviors ascribed to the category of such software -- secretly recording a person's computer keystrokes or mouse clicks -- are already illegal under U.S. wiretap and consumer protection laws.

The House proposal, known as the "Spy Act," adds civil penalties over what has emerged as an extraordinary frustration for Internet users, whose infected computers often turn sluggish and perform unexpectedly.

The bill, sponsored by Rep. Mary Bono, R-California, provides guidelines for technology companies that distribute software capable of most types of electronic monitoring. It requires that consumers explicitly choose to install such software and agree to the information being collected.

The House voted 399-1 to approve the bill. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, who often votes against spending measures, cast the lone dissenting vote Tuesday.

The House separately was expected to approve another anti-spyware bill as early as Wednesday. That bill, sponsored by Rep. Robert Goodlatte, R-Virginia, provides for additional criminal penalties.

The chairman of the Energy and Commerce Committee, Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, said Goodlatte's anti-spyware bill was preferable because of its criminal sanctions, and Barton said he will work to combine both proposals for a final vote by year's end.

Barton acknowledged that experts had recently found more than 60 varieties of spyware installed on the panel's own computers. He said all the spyware programs had been installed without the permission of computer users.

The committee's ranking Democrat, Rep. Jan Schakowsky of Illinois, called the proposal approved Tuesday "a bill whose time has come."

"People are increasingly finding their home pages have been changed or their computers are sluggish," she said. "Their computers are no longer their own, and they can't figure out why."

The House bill approved Tuesday explicitly permits snooping software built by the FBI or spy agencies secretly collecting information under a court order or other legal permissions affecting federal departments.

The bill's bans against spyware would begin 12 months after it becomes law and would automatically expire after 2009.
 

EdPPCLI

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Why do we need Nanny government to watch over the well being of the citizens 'surfing habits? There are lots of products (some even free) that will do the job without infringing on my freedoms. What will this bill cost the American taxpayer? Which politically connected few companies will benefit?
America needs to wake up to the fact that the politicians are slooooooowly stealing their liberty.
Ed
 

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Sneaking into my hard drive and installing spyware there without my knowlege or permission is tantamount, IMO, to mailing me a 'free gift' with a listening device hidden in it. This is *not* a case of nanny government; it is a case of the government protecting my privacy rights.
 

Bill Clo

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6 out of the last 7 systems I worked on had serious or even catastrophic spyware/malware/trojan infestations. Of those 6, for 3 of them the only really effective solution was a wipe hard drive and reinstall OS. The rest were 5-8 hour jobs; real pains in the rear.

I'm at the point where I REALLY hate these SOBs who come up with this stuff, and invade one's system. To be sure, some more education of users would be a great benefit, as only 2 of the 6 had an working anti-virus, and none had any programs to remove/prevent malicious programs from self-installing.

I read an Washington Post article recently saying that the typical computer only has to be on the Net 20 minutes before it's compromised. Down from 55 mins last year...sheeze.

As a routine measure, I put the proper programs on their systems, show them how to use it, and make sure they understand that they have to keep them updated and practice safe computing or they'll be paying me again in short order. :(

It ought to be illegal to put some of the stuff I've seen on peoples systems. Porn/Spam relays, keyloggers, backdoor trojans, you name it.
 

CGTech

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Bill Clo said:
6 out of the last 7 systems I worked on had serious or even catastrophic spyware/malware/trojan infestations. Of those 6, for 3 of them the only really effective solution was a wipe hard drive and reinstall OS. The rest were 5-8 hour jobs; real pains in the rear.

I'm at the point where I REALLY hate these SOBs who come up with this stuff, and invade one's system. To be sure, some more education of users would be a great benefit, as only 2 of the 6 had an working anti-virus, and none had any programs to remove/prevent malicious programs from self-installing.

I read an Washington Post article recently saying that the typical computer only has to be on the Net 20 minutes before it's compromised. Down from 55 mins last year...sheeze.

As a routine measure, I put the proper programs on their systems, show them how to use it, and make sure they understand that they have to keep them updated and practice safe computing or they'll be paying me again in short order. :(

It ought to be illegal to put some of the stuff I've seen on peoples systems. Porn/Spam relays, keyloggers, backdoor trojans, you name it.

Yeah, I know where you are coming from. I think the problem has surpassed virus infections for the sheer magnitude of it.
 

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M10_1:
"Switch over to Firefox and be done with spyware....."
Switching browsers should not protect you from most spyware in any way. Does Mozilla have some kind of built-in spyware blocker?
 
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blackjeep

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This article would lead one to believe that Firefox will help eliminate the spyware problem. I have had no "data miners" since making the switch to Firefox.

Here the link: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/computersecurity/2004-09-08-zombieinfect_x.htm


Signs your PC's under siege, and what you can do
By Byron Acohido and Jon Swartz, USA TODAY
If your Windows PC is being used as a zombie, you may notice recurring slowdowns of e-mail and Web browsing. Or you may not be able to e-mail or browse at all. If your PC has been infected with a self-replicating network worm, a dormant backdoor Trojan horse or several other types of stealthy programs, you may not notice anything.

• Always use a personal firewall with a PC connected to a cable modem, DSL or wireless Internet service. Free ones are listed at www.free-firewall.org. Tip: Have the personal firewall set to at least the medium level of security.

• Buy anti-virus software, such as Norton AntiVirus, McAfee VirusScan or ZoneLabs Security Suite, and keep the subscription current. Set it to automatically check for updates. Tip: New PCs typically come with a free trial subscription from Norton or McAfee. However, you must subscribe after the trial period expires to continue getting updates.

• Enable Microsoft Windows Auto-Update to automatically download the latest security patches. Tip: Follow instructions to make sure downloaded patches are also automatically installed.

• No software vendor will ever send you patches via e-mail. If you get e-mail pretending to be a patch from Microsoft or any other vendor, delete it. Distrust all attachments. If you have even the slightest doubt, delete it without reading.

• Back up all of your important documents and folders at least once a month, more often if you can stand it. Use complex passwords and periodically change passwords and PINs.

Beware of spyware. If you can, use the Mozilla Firefox browser. If you must use Internet Explorer (IE), set the security settings to high; this will disable multimedia features of many Web sites, but also will block a main path intruders use to plant Web contagions. Tip: To set IE security to high, navigate to Tools, Internet options, Security settings.

• Install, use and regularly update Lavasoft's Ad-Aware and Spybot Search and Destroy anti-spyware programs. Both are free for the downloading. Tip: Be extremely wary of counterfeit versions of Lavasoft's Ad-Aware, spelled slightly different; those are actually spyware.
 

macten_1

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OS...I've immunized my W2000 box with Spybot and Spywareblaster and started using Firefox. Almost all of my checks with Ad-Aware and Spybot come up clean. Spyware is a thing of the past....
 

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I use Opera, Spybot and AdAware, and do not get spyware either. The only time I seem to get any is as a result of installing new freeware. I thought the lack of spyware was solely due to the Spybot 'immunize' feature and my firewall. It did not occur to me that switching browsers could make a difference.
 

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I used to use AVG, until I read an online test that showed how ineffective it is. I switched to Avast! (which is also free, and has free regular online updates).
 

TJA

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M10_1:Switching browsers should not protect you from most spyware in any way. Does Mozilla have some kind of built-in spyware blocker?

Mozilla and Mozilla Firefox lack the ActiveX stuff that is built into Internet Explorer, which is used by much of the scumware out there. It's not so much that they have a built-in Spyware blocker but simply lack the most common vulnerabilities that spyware exploits.
 
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