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Original source: https://www.theaustralian.com.au/na...d/news-story/f3c3a28637afd33b1c090ba0ec74202b
STEVE SAILER • JUNE 29, 2019
From the Weekend Australian:
Indigenous arrival has no date, dons told
BERNARD LANE, 12:00AM JUNE 29, 2019
"University science lecturers have been warned off making the familiar statement in class that “Aboriginal people have been in Australia for 40,000 years”.
It “puts a limit on the occupation of Australia” and many *indigenous Australians see this as “inappropriate”, according to the University of NSW language *advice for staff.
The document suggests it is “more appropriate” to say Aborigines have been here “since the beginning of the Dreaming/s” *because this “reflects the beliefs of many Indigenous Australians that they have always been in Australia, from the beginning of time, and came from the land’’. ..
The inclusivity guidelines, which introduce and link to the indigenous language advice, were approved by a working group involving the dean Emma Johnston.
The guidelines say: “Recognise that intentional or unintentional racist, classist, homophobic, ableist, ill-informed and/or disparaging comments or content can be harmful or damaging to students from minority identities.
“In the case that a student calls out your use of non-inclusive *language, avoid being defensive. Acknowledge it, and reflect on how you might ensure inclusivity.”
The indigenous language *advice says putting a date on *Aboriginal arrival “tends to lend support to migration theories and anthropological assumptions’’.
“Many indigenous Australians see this sort of measurement and quantifying as inappropriate.’’
Asked for evidence, a UNSW spokeswoman cited “extensive consultation” with the university’s Centre for Indigenous Programs, Nura Gili, and its Equity Diversity & Inclusion Division. …
He said: “Scientists can potentially damage the standing of the elders, or the right to land claims, should our findings contradict the oral traditions.”"
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Some of the most notable comments:
Cortes says:
June 29, 2019 at 8:26 pm GMT
So does white Australia date from the Great Awokening?
Peter Johnson says:
June 29, 2019 at 8:59 pm GMT
So scientists are required by the Australian government to lie to their students? This shows how far the SJW movement has gone, and its destructive power.
Anonymous[473] • Disclaimer says:
June 29, 2019 at 9:09 pm GMT • 200 Words
The power of dreams! Awesome.
So, that must be how whites ended up in Australia. One day, some Aborigine had a dream that there is a nation called UK, and suddenly UK sprung into existence. And then, he dreamed a bunch of whites from UK would build ships and come all the way to Australia, and his dream came true. And then, he dreamed whites would take over and build cities like Sydney and Melbourne.
These Aborigines got some super magical power. In The Last Wave, their magic can stir up entire waves. In The Right Stuff, they could send campfire up to space to amuse the astronauts. And now, it turns out they dreamed their being into existence in Australia. Btw, a chicken-egg question. What came first? The dreamer or the dream? How could there have been a dream without the dreamer? But if the dreamer was created by a dream, who dreamed it?
Still, this is a useful narrative. In the US, the ‘dreamer’ is the alien-invader. In Australia, the ‘dreamer’ is the native with deep roots in the soil. Out of respect to the Aboriginal native ‘dreamers’, I suggest whites in Australia stop cucking to globalism and end all immigration that violates the First Dream of the natives.
Hippopotamusdrome says:
June 29, 2019 at 9:30 pm GMT
The indigenous language *advice says putting a date on *Aboriginal arrival “tends to lend support to migration theories and anthropological assumptions’’.
All those bones were planted by Satan to test our faith.
Lot says:
June 29, 2019 at 10:11 pm GMT • 300 Words
@tyrone
“I’m sure a few cans of Fosters should smooth over any hurt feelings.”
Model airplane glue or small cans of gasoline might be more welcome.
“SNIFFING petrol for its hallucinogenic effects has become so prevalent in some Aboriginal communities in Australia that mothers are using rags soaked in the fuel to soothe their babies and send them to sleep.
The national Department of Family and Community Services says in a report to the federal government that a common practice among Aboriginal mothers “has been to dip rags in petrol and tie them onto babies’ jumpers”.
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Mr Minniecon said: “The sniffers wear drink cans filled with petrol like a necklace. It’s heart-wrenching. It’s out of control, and not just confined to communities in central Australia. We’re getting reports of an increase in petrol sniffing in Queensland and Victoria too.”
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Ian Jampijempa Anderson, 40, the Aboriginal vice-president of Papunya community council, said that children as young as nine were sniffing petrol. “Some of the big fellas are pushing the little kids into it. They say ‘have a smell of this, it will make you feel better’. We get troublemakers coming up from Kintore [an Aboriginal community five hours drive away]. The mothers and fathers are meant to be responsible, but they don’t say anything.”
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Mr Minniecon said: “The last 200 years are just a blip in Aboriginal history. We have between 40,000 and 60,000 years of wisdom and knowledge from our elders to draw on. We need to reconnect to that heritage if we’re going to save the next generation.”
Lot says:
June 29, 2019 at 10:21 pm GMT • 100 Words
In Canada hundreds of public schools have a daily “land acknowledgement” to start the day like we have the pledge of allegiance. Here’s a sample:
“Welcome. I would like to take this opportunity to acknowledge the traditional territories of the Blackfoot and the people of the Treaty 7 region in Southern Alberta, which includes the Siksika, the Piikuni, the Kainai, the Tsuut’ina and the Stoney Nakoda First Nations, including Chiniki, Bearspaw, and Wesley First Nation. The City of Calgary is also home to the Métis Nation of Alberta, Region III. ”
Any public event with speeches, like graduations and building dedications, will have the same.
The same thing is catching on in the US Pacific Northwest.
Emblematic says:
June 29, 2019 at 10:34 pm GMT • 100 Words
My understanding is there were several waves of hominid migration into Australia.
The aborigines found living on the mainland of Australia by the British when they first arrived in the late 18th century (and still living here today) are NOT descended from whoever first populated the continent 50 000 years ago. They are the descendants of a completely different race that arrived much more recently, about 5000 years ago.
The remains of one of the original archaic humans was discovered at Lake Mungo and so was named Mungo Man. DNA has been extracted from Mungo Man showing he is no relation to the more recent arrivals.
When the current aborigines first arrived they completely wiped out the previous occupants. Except for the Tasmanians who by that time were separated from the mainland. The Tasmanians were wiped out by the British.
Tired of Not Winning says:
June 29, 2019 at 11:31 pm GMT
I once asked a native American where Native Americans came from, as he was banging on about everyone else having come from somewhere else. He said in a dead serious tone, “we came from the earth.”
Anon[328] • Disclaimer says:
June 29, 2019 at 11:33 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Lot
None of those tribes were part of the first wave of migration. The “Zeroeth Nations” preceded them and were wiped out by them (or perhaps negotiated a peaceful “non propagation” treaty and let themselves die off).
I would write a land acknowledgement thusly:
“Welcome, I would like to take this opportunity to acknowledge the traditional habitat of the giant sloth, the American giant tortoise, the dire wolf, the saiga, Harlan’s muskox, the gylptotherium, and other extinct members of Pleistocene megafauna, who were cruelly hunted to extinction by migrant peoples to this land, who themselves were later killed off in territorial wars by subsequent migrants, the Blackfoot and the people of the Treaty 7 region in Southern Alberta, which includes the Siksika, the Piikuni, the Kainai, the Tsuut’ina and the Stoney Nakoda First Nations, including Chiniki, Bearspaw, and Wesley First Nation, who themselves were all all but wiped out by my European ancestors, leaving only a sorry remnant bunch of alcoholics and dependant welfare moochers to bitch and whine about anything and everything.”
Original source: https://www.theaustralian.com.au/na...d/news-story/f3c3a28637afd33b1c090ba0ec74202b
STEVE SAILER • JUNE 29, 2019
From the Weekend Australian:
Indigenous arrival has no date, dons told
BERNARD LANE, 12:00AM JUNE 29, 2019
"University science lecturers have been warned off making the familiar statement in class that “Aboriginal people have been in Australia for 40,000 years”.
It “puts a limit on the occupation of Australia” and many *indigenous Australians see this as “inappropriate”, according to the University of NSW language *advice for staff.
The document suggests it is “more appropriate” to say Aborigines have been here “since the beginning of the Dreaming/s” *because this “reflects the beliefs of many Indigenous Australians that they have always been in Australia, from the beginning of time, and came from the land’’. ..
The inclusivity guidelines, which introduce and link to the indigenous language advice, were approved by a working group involving the dean Emma Johnston.
The guidelines say: “Recognise that intentional or unintentional racist, classist, homophobic, ableist, ill-informed and/or disparaging comments or content can be harmful or damaging to students from minority identities.
“In the case that a student calls out your use of non-inclusive *language, avoid being defensive. Acknowledge it, and reflect on how you might ensure inclusivity.”
The indigenous language *advice says putting a date on *Aboriginal arrival “tends to lend support to migration theories and anthropological assumptions’’.
“Many indigenous Australians see this sort of measurement and quantifying as inappropriate.’’
Asked for evidence, a UNSW spokeswoman cited “extensive consultation” with the university’s Centre for Indigenous Programs, Nura Gili, and its Equity Diversity & Inclusion Division. …
He said: “Scientists can potentially damage the standing of the elders, or the right to land claims, should our findings contradict the oral traditions.”"
===========================================
Some of the most notable comments:
Cortes says:
June 29, 2019 at 8:26 pm GMT
So does white Australia date from the Great Awokening?
Peter Johnson says:
June 29, 2019 at 8:59 pm GMT
So scientists are required by the Australian government to lie to their students? This shows how far the SJW movement has gone, and its destructive power.
Anonymous[473] • Disclaimer says:
June 29, 2019 at 9:09 pm GMT • 200 Words
The power of dreams! Awesome.
So, that must be how whites ended up in Australia. One day, some Aborigine had a dream that there is a nation called UK, and suddenly UK sprung into existence. And then, he dreamed a bunch of whites from UK would build ships and come all the way to Australia, and his dream came true. And then, he dreamed whites would take over and build cities like Sydney and Melbourne.
These Aborigines got some super magical power. In The Last Wave, their magic can stir up entire waves. In The Right Stuff, they could send campfire up to space to amuse the astronauts. And now, it turns out they dreamed their being into existence in Australia. Btw, a chicken-egg question. What came first? The dreamer or the dream? How could there have been a dream without the dreamer? But if the dreamer was created by a dream, who dreamed it?
Still, this is a useful narrative. In the US, the ‘dreamer’ is the alien-invader. In Australia, the ‘dreamer’ is the native with deep roots in the soil. Out of respect to the Aboriginal native ‘dreamers’, I suggest whites in Australia stop cucking to globalism and end all immigration that violates the First Dream of the natives.
Hippopotamusdrome says:
June 29, 2019 at 9:30 pm GMT
The indigenous language *advice says putting a date on *Aboriginal arrival “tends to lend support to migration theories and anthropological assumptions’’.
All those bones were planted by Satan to test our faith.
Lot says:
June 29, 2019 at 10:11 pm GMT • 300 Words
@tyrone
“I’m sure a few cans of Fosters should smooth over any hurt feelings.”
Model airplane glue or small cans of gasoline might be more welcome.
“SNIFFING petrol for its hallucinogenic effects has become so prevalent in some Aboriginal communities in Australia that mothers are using rags soaked in the fuel to soothe their babies and send them to sleep.
The national Department of Family and Community Services says in a report to the federal government that a common practice among Aboriginal mothers “has been to dip rags in petrol and tie them onto babies’ jumpers”.
–
Mr Minniecon said: “The sniffers wear drink cans filled with petrol like a necklace. It’s heart-wrenching. It’s out of control, and not just confined to communities in central Australia. We’re getting reports of an increase in petrol sniffing in Queensland and Victoria too.”
–
Ian Jampijempa Anderson, 40, the Aboriginal vice-president of Papunya community council, said that children as young as nine were sniffing petrol. “Some of the big fellas are pushing the little kids into it. They say ‘have a smell of this, it will make you feel better’. We get troublemakers coming up from Kintore [an Aboriginal community five hours drive away]. The mothers and fathers are meant to be responsible, but they don’t say anything.”
–
Mr Minniecon said: “The last 200 years are just a blip in Aboriginal history. We have between 40,000 and 60,000 years of wisdom and knowledge from our elders to draw on. We need to reconnect to that heritage if we’re going to save the next generation.”
Lot says:
June 29, 2019 at 10:21 pm GMT • 100 Words
In Canada hundreds of public schools have a daily “land acknowledgement” to start the day like we have the pledge of allegiance. Here’s a sample:
“Welcome. I would like to take this opportunity to acknowledge the traditional territories of the Blackfoot and the people of the Treaty 7 region in Southern Alberta, which includes the Siksika, the Piikuni, the Kainai, the Tsuut’ina and the Stoney Nakoda First Nations, including Chiniki, Bearspaw, and Wesley First Nation. The City of Calgary is also home to the Métis Nation of Alberta, Region III. ”
Any public event with speeches, like graduations and building dedications, will have the same.
The same thing is catching on in the US Pacific Northwest.
Emblematic says:
June 29, 2019 at 10:34 pm GMT • 100 Words
My understanding is there were several waves of hominid migration into Australia.
The aborigines found living on the mainland of Australia by the British when they first arrived in the late 18th century (and still living here today) are NOT descended from whoever first populated the continent 50 000 years ago. They are the descendants of a completely different race that arrived much more recently, about 5000 years ago.
The remains of one of the original archaic humans was discovered at Lake Mungo and so was named Mungo Man. DNA has been extracted from Mungo Man showing he is no relation to the more recent arrivals.
When the current aborigines first arrived they completely wiped out the previous occupants. Except for the Tasmanians who by that time were separated from the mainland. The Tasmanians were wiped out by the British.
Tired of Not Winning says:
June 29, 2019 at 11:31 pm GMT
I once asked a native American where Native Americans came from, as he was banging on about everyone else having come from somewhere else. He said in a dead serious tone, “we came from the earth.”
Anon[328] • Disclaimer says:
June 29, 2019 at 11:33 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Lot
None of those tribes were part of the first wave of migration. The “Zeroeth Nations” preceded them and were wiped out by them (or perhaps negotiated a peaceful “non propagation” treaty and let themselves die off).
I would write a land acknowledgement thusly:
“Welcome, I would like to take this opportunity to acknowledge the traditional habitat of the giant sloth, the American giant tortoise, the dire wolf, the saiga, Harlan’s muskox, the gylptotherium, and other extinct members of Pleistocene megafauna, who were cruelly hunted to extinction by migrant peoples to this land, who themselves were later killed off in territorial wars by subsequent migrants, the Blackfoot and the people of the Treaty 7 region in Southern Alberta, which includes the Siksika, the Piikuni, the Kainai, the Tsuut’ina and the Stoney Nakoda First Nations, including Chiniki, Bearspaw, and Wesley First Nation, who themselves were all all but wiped out by my European ancestors, leaving only a sorry remnant bunch of alcoholics and dependant welfare moochers to bitch and whine about anything and everything.”
