ENVR Australian camels could be shot to curb methane

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By Rod Mcguirk, Associated Press – Thu Jun 9, 9:02 am ET


CANBERRA, Australia – Kill a camel, earn cash for cutting greenhouse gases: That offer may be coming soon in Australia, where vast numbers of the nonnative, methane-belching animals have been trampling the Outback for more than a century.

The government has proposed that killing camels be officially registered as a means of reducing greenhouse gas emissions. Australia has the world's largest population of wild camels — an estimated 1.2 million — and considers them to be a growing environmental problem.

The proposal, released for public comment this week, would allow sharpshooters to earn so-called carbon credits for slaughtering camels. Industrial polluters around the world could buy the credits to offset their own carbon emissions.

Each camel belches an estimated 100 pounds (45 kilograms) of methane a year, which is equivalent to a metric ton (1.1 U.S. ton) of carbon dioxide in its impact on global warming. That's roughly one-sixth the amount of CO2 that the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency says an average car produces annually.

A bill to create a carbon credit regime will go to a vote in the House of Representatives on Wednesday and is expected to become law within weeks.

A government registry will be set up to determine what actions will qualify for carbon credits, and bureaucrats are expected to decide by the end of the year whether killing camels will be among them.

Mark Dreyfus, the government's parliamentary secretary for climate change, said he hopes the proposal wipes out camels from the Australian wild.

"Potentially it has tremendous merit, because feral camels are a dreadful menace across the whole of arid Australia," Dreyfus told The Associated Press on Thursday.

First introduced in the 1840s to help explorers and pioneers travel through Australia's arid interior, camels now cover vast tracts of the continent's parched and sparsely populated center and west.

Camels compete with sheep and cattle for food, trample vegetation and invade remote settlements in search of water, scaring residents as they tear apart bathrooms and rip up water pipes.

The government estimates camel numbers double every nine years, despite recent government-funded culls and a small export meat trade with the Middle East.

"It's not well understood because they're in remote areas of Australia what extraordinary damage this very, very large wild camel population is doing in an economic, environmental and social sense," Dreyfus said.

Under the new environmental law, Dreyfus said, the camels could be slaughtered for their meat as well as carbon credits — adding to the financial return to those who currently herd and kill camels for human and pet food. Shooters in helicopters could also claim carbon credits if they proved that they had humanely killed a camel and abandoned its carcass.

Garry Dan, a central Australian cattle rancher who also catches camels for their meat, described the added carbon credit value for carcasses as "ideal."

He said while camels were freely available in the wild, they are expensive to truck to abattoirs because they are too big for standard cattle trailers.

The carbon trading business Northwest Carbon first pitched carbon credits for camels to the government. Its managing director, Tim Moore, said it was too early to place a dollar value on each dead animal.

"Obviously the higher the value, the faster we're going to be able to eradicate the problem of the feral camel pest in Australia," Moore said.

Killing camels is one of three proposals currently being considered by the government for carbon credits under the new law. The others would extract methane from landfills and change how Aborigines manage fire in savannah grasslands.

Australia plans to make its worst industrial polluters pay a tax on every ton of carbon gas they produce from July 1, 2012. The government aims to slash Australia's greenhouse emissions to 5 percent below 2000 levels by 2020.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110609/ap_on_re_us/as_australia_killing_camels
 

night driver

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SO would someone from the region like to educate this dumb Yank as to why feral camels are a "dreadful menace" throughout AU????
 

Richard

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Probably a hoax, if not, the CO2-ers are running out of ideas, the next one doubtless will be to exterminate all CO2 emitting creatures
 

Chair Warmer

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SO would someone from the region like to educate this dumb Yank as to why feral camels are a "dreadful menace" throughout AU????

It seems they're desperate enough to do ANYTHING to earn carbon credits.

Creepy where setting up a precedence like this could lead to...

Mrs.Cw
 

Krymsonowl

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Next our homes will contain methane monitors and anyone exceeding a prescribed limit on methane emissions will be paying heavy fines. I suppose this will follow mandatory meals containing legumes and cabbage, the government will find a way to get money from us one way or another.:eek:
 

TerryK

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Australia use to be a fine country, around 40 years ago.
I think they are now more politically correct than even Britain.
What happened to them?
 

Ender

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Next our homes will contain methane monitors and anyone exceeding a prescribed limit on methane emissions will be paying heavy fines. I suppose this will follow mandatory meals containing legumes and cabbage, the government will find a way to get money from us one way or another.:eek:

Ever see the musical "Urinetown"?

It is about having to pay to pee. No bathrooms are allowed in homes and you must wait in long lines and no money, no pee-pee. If you pee outside, you go to jail- or worse.
 

Chair Warmer

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Ever see the musical "Urinetown"?

It is about having to pay to pee. No bathrooms are allowed in homes and you must wait in long lines and no money, no pee-pee. If you pee outside, you go to jail- or worse.

I remember that happening at Kmart when I was a little kid!

What happens in that movie if you pee'd your pants? lol

Mrs.Cw
 

Garryowen

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Shooters in helicopters could also claim carbon credits if they proved that they had humanely killed a camel and abandoned its carcass.

Okay, so what kind of carbon-based emissions does decaying flesh produce? Methane is the result of decaying organic matter. Why don't they just outlaw decaying? Maybe we could set up a federal agency to embalm all dead animals and plants to eliminate the problem? Oops. I guess elimination is part of the problem.

Sorry folks, I just couldn't help but notice the logical result of their supposed "solution."

Better buy your fiber supplement while you can. It'll be outlawed before long.
 

China Connection

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They shoot everything back home so that when the crash comes people will starve to death. It is part of the "Depopulation Agenda"

The shot out the water buffalo, they culled the beef cattle up north over some stupid disease that is all over the world and only affects about one in seven hundred. Could go on but you should get the point. If they cared about the soil then we would be farming kangaroos not cattle as kangaroos have padded feet not hooves like cattle.


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DustMusher

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They would be much more effective to go off the coast of CA and plug the natural methane and oil seeps, per this article in Scientific American August 29, 2006 which states "Currently, such seeps worldwide account for the release of 30 teragrams (roughly 33 million tons) of methane every year, or roughly 15 percent of the natural sources of greenhouse gas."
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=global-warming-spurs-ocea

Sure makes a bunch of camel belches seem rather insignificant in the great scheme of the world CO2, doesn't it?

What is their REAL AGENDA?

DM
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
I am fed up with the pap fed to the people as patently preposterous justifications for all the decisions that the people KNOW are bad decisions and would not support if permitted to vote on them.

If you have the power and authority to kill the damned camels and that is part of your friggin agenda then just do it and don't bother shoveling us the bullsh*t excuse about reducing "methane" you Cretans.
 

dstraito

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Forget shooting the camels, the world would be better off shooting the environmental terrorists.

Carbon credits my a$$
 

rodeorector

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Actually, I don't think the Aussies can shoot anything. Didn't the PM and those politicians outlaw gun ownership down under?
 

Chair Warmer

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I am fed up with the pap fed to the people as patently preposterous justifications for all the decisions that the people KNOW are bad decisions and would not support if permitted to vote on them.

If you have the power and authority to kill the damned camels and that is part of your friggin agenda then just do it and don't bother shoveling us the bullsh*t excuse about reducing "methane" you Cretans.

Bingo!

TPTB are working to desensitize people, conditioning them to think it's ok to kill for the sake of carbon credits.


And Richard makes the point;
Richard said:
Kill off all the large mammals first starting with Elephants and Rhinos......

what about whales?
Yes they could be next,

... and I wonder where humans fall into that list. Romney recently claims humans are a huge cause of global warming. What could this type of precedenct eventually lead to,... carbon credits for abortions?

Thank God, right now it is ONLY the camels.


And China Connection makes a good point too, perhaps their hidden agenda IS starving people. Afterall, isn't one of the major focuses on global warming overpopulation? It all fits together.

Mrs.Cw
 
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