POL At This Rate, 2022 Could Be a Bloodbath for Democrats

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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At This Rate, 2022 Could Be a Bloodbath for Democrats
Joe Cunningham5-6 minutes 5/3/2021


The Democrats have been trying to dodge the spotlight.

After all, Republicans have their issues to overcome. They are still trying to figure themselves out as a party following the departure of Donald Trump as President (and from a lot of the media coverage he was receiving during his time in the White House). Media outlets are trying really hard to keep Trump and his acolytes in the news, but with a Democratic administration comes a focus on what the party in power is doing.

For years leading up to the 2016 election, the media was playing up talk of a Republican civil war, where the moderates and the conservatives were going to war for the soul of the party. The election of Donald Trump signified, to almost everyone, that the conservatives won. But, with politicians like Liz Cheney and others who have not been shy about their distaste for Trump and his style of politics, there was a small civil war within the GOP they could exploit for ratings and to keep the focus on the Republicans while trying to ignore the Democrats.

But, the party in power is struggling with its own members. The far-left wing of the party is slowly gaining more influence, forcing more moderate members to abandon their seats toward the middle or stand opposed to the cries for ultra-progressive bills and policies. The Biden administration, which came into office on the promise of compromise and bipartisanship, has taken far-left policies virtually across the board. Joe Manchin, the most powerful man in the Senate, must combat his own President and party on a regular basis, while the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wing of the party attacks and berates him, leaving members who wish to keep control (like Speaker Nancy Pelosi) constantly trying to navigate the conflicts within their own party.

This all puts Pelosi in particular in a tight spot: The House Democrats have the slimmest majority in decades (an advantage of only six seats – seven when Troy Carter of Louisiana is sworn in) and are looking at a full slate of retiring members in the 2022 midterm.

Midterms are historically bad for the party in power, and for Democrats, that could mean a massive Republican wave taking away what scant power they have right now.

According to the Washington Post, there are potentially seven Democrats giving up their seats in the House.

The latest to announce her departure is Rep. Cheri Bustos (D-Ill.), the former head of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, who proclaimed her coming retirement Friday after narrowly winning reelection in a rural district along the Mississippi River that supported Donald Trump.

Rep. Charlie Crist (D-Fla.), who has been exploring another possible gubernatorial run, put out word Saturday that he would be making a “major announcement” this week, potentially putting at risk his St. Petersburg seat, where he ran ahead of President Biden in 2020.

Two other accomplished battleground incumbents — Reps. Filemon Vela Jr. (D-Texas) and Ann Kirkpatrick (D-Ariz.) — announced their plans to leave earlier this year, joining Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio), who is giving up a closely-contested seat to run for the U.S. Senate. Several more in competitive areas, including Democratic stars like Rep. Conor Lamb (D-Pa.) and Rep. Stephanie Murphy (D-Fla.) are also seriously considering runs for higher office later this year.


If it happens that the Democrats lose every one of those seats, then the Republicans are in good shape to reclaim the House. But even if some or all of those seats remain blue, the Democrats will have spent resources desperately needed elsewhere to maintain their majority. Their resources are going to be spread very thin next year, and it’s going to force them to make tough decisions on who to support and how much support to give them.

The Democrats are also going to have to figure out how to play it safe enough to mitigate their losses in 2022. Going too far left will drive moderates toward the Republicans. Going too far toward the middle will keep their rabid, far-left base at home. The philosophers Simon and Garfunkel may have been onto something when they said “either way you look at it, you lose.”

To make matters even worse for them, Republicans will control a lot of the redistricting across the country, giving them an advantage in future electoral maps. Not only are Democrats going to be fighting Republicans, but they are also now fighting the results of the census (and their own policies) as a result. Republican states gained seats, and Republican legislatures get to draw the maps.

When 2022 comes around, it’s looking like it’s going to be a bloodbath at the ballot box.
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
When 2022 comes around, it’s looking like it’s going to be a bloodbath at the ballot box.
I call BULLSHIT . . . "more we'll vote harder this time" rah rah HORSE SHIT - Raven is right "they own the voting machines"

your country is TOAST - DOA until YOU decide to take it back. whether "take it back" is defined as violently burning it to the ground and slitting commie throats or something as simple as REFUSING to comply - that's the bottom line

YOUR COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR BULLSHIT PROLONGS THE AGONY

a PEOPLE get the GOVERNMENT they DESERVE - welcome to the land of apathy and go along to get along.
 

Jeff B.

What is left when honor is lost?
I think that the fireworks haven't started yet.

The Left hasn't really made a run on gun control yet, in a serious manner.

Inflation is clearly starting to creep into the MSM discussions, let alone those like us who've seen things more clearly.

There's now pushback on the Woke Agenda. In Southlake (Carroll ISD) a pretty well off area, the woke incumbents in School Board, Town Council and another race I can't recall, but the wokesters had their butts handed to them.

In a suburban DFW congressional district, the wife of the former Congressman and his previous primary opponent were the top two vote getters for the run off... the Democrat was #3.

When the midterms come around, the economy will be making sucking sounds, inflation will be undeniable and there will be at least one or two accomplishments of dubious distinction to hang on the DemonRats.

It may not be a slaughter, but I expect the House to go to the GOP with the Senate remaining close or slightly GOP.

Jeff B.
 

Practical

Veteran Member
Whatever helps people sleep. I think the better question would be:

Would a fully Republican legislature make things better? They had that in 2016, what changed? Nothing. Oh, I know, it was not the 'right' republicans. Just need to get in better republicans, then everything will be ducky.

'Vote like it won't matter' should be the mantra for 2022 and on.
 

von Koehler

Veteran Member
Also the stock market is approaching a historic high, culminating a bullish trend which started in 1720. Yes, that long ago.

The resulting crash will wipe out many investors and precipitate the Greatest Depression.

Hopefully the Left/democrats will be blamed.

ETA: after the tulip bulb and south seas bubbles burst, what was left of a trading market never really recovered. It constantly drifted lower for about eighty years. Which suggests to me that the losses there so colossal that a new market could only emerge after all the bubble era traders had passed away.

So, if our market does crash and lose about 80 percent (or more) probably very few people will want to trade the market again.
 
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von Koehler

Veteran Member
Also the Republicans must address the question of "climate change" and quit prevocating about this topic and make a definative stand. The Leftists and "environmentalists" are destroying this country in their mistaken belief that carbon dioxide is a pollutant and is the chief cause of "greenhouse warming."

The changes in climate are caused by natural cycles. And by a nearby star, called the Sun.

Accept the premise of your opponent and you lose the argument.
 
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Troke

On TB every waking moment
Also the stock market is approaching a historic high, culminating a bullish trend which started in 1720. Yes, that long ago.

The resulting crash will wipe out many investors and precipitate the Greatest Depression.

Hopefully the Left/democrats will be blamed.
Hmm! You folks sure? If I were Diccolo Trokiavelli I might note having the GOP take over just before the CRASH, which we all agree is coming, might be good for the Demos. Last time that happened, the GOP was out of Congress for 16 yrs and out of the WH for 20.

From the Demo standpoint, what is not to like?
 

von Koehler

Veteran Member
Hmm! You folks sure? If I were Diccolo Trokiavelli I might note having the GOP take over just before the CRASH, which we all agree is coming, might be good for the Demos. Last time that happened, the GOP was out of Congress for 16 yrs and out of the WH for 20.

From the Demo standpoint, what is not to like?
Without hauling out a lot of charts and presenting an analysis, which most here either don't accept or can't understand, sufficient it to say the market is very, very close to a historic all time top.

By the time the earliest federal elections happen in 2022, it will be quite apparent to everyone that the market tanked. And this will under the pretender President Biden (CCP) regime.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
If
Without hauling out a lot of charts and presenting an analysis, which most here either don't accept or can't understand, sufficient it to say the market is very, very close to a historic all time top.

By the time the earliest federal elections happen in 2022, it will be quite apparent to everyone that the market tanked. And this will under the pretender President Biden (CCP) regime.
If we had a 'normal' economy, I would agree with you. But it ain't normal. Bidden just might be able to keep off the disaster for 18 months, let the GOP take over the legislature and then she crashes. And everybody here agrees there is not a damned thing anybody will be able to do about it once it has crashed. So Joe points out things were good (!) until the GOP got in.

And there is the GOP legislature thrashing around doing nothing that works as the MSM gleefully points that out..

Pretty far fetched timewise, but possible.
 

von Koehler

Veteran Member
Well we will soon see.

The market is working out its final minor 5th wave, it should be completed ln about 4 to 6 weeks.
 
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TKO

Veteran Member
Whatever helps people sleep. I think the better question would be:

Would a fully Republican legislature make things better? They had that in 2016, what changed? Nothing. Oh, I know, it was not the 'right' republicans. Just need to get in better republicans, then everything will be ducky.

'Vote like it won't matter' should be the mantra for 2022 and on.
It didn't help when Trump was trying to help the country and make America great again. He had a GOP RINO congress.
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
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At This Rate, 2022 Could Be a Bloodbath for Democrats
Joe Cunningham5-6 minutes 5/3/2021


The Democrats have been trying to dodge the spotlight.

After all, Republicans have their issues to overcome. They are still trying to figure themselves out as a party following the departure of Donald Trump as President (and from a lot of the media coverage he was receiving during his time in the White House). Media outlets are trying really hard to keep Trump and his acolytes in the news, but with a Democratic administration comes a focus on what the party in power is doing.

For years leading up to the 2016 election, the media was playing up talk of a Republican civil war, where the moderates and the conservatives were going to war for the soul of the party. The election of Donald Trump signified, to almost everyone, that the conservatives won. But, with politicians like Liz Cheney and others who have not been shy about their distaste for Trump and his style of politics, there was a small civil war within the GOP they could exploit for ratings and to keep the focus on the Republicans while trying to ignore the Democrats.

But, the party in power is struggling with its own members. The far-left wing of the party is slowly gaining more influence, forcing more moderate members to abandon their seats toward the middle or stand opposed to the cries for ultra-progressive bills and policies. The Biden administration, which came into office on the promise of compromise and bipartisanship, has taken far-left policies virtually across the board. Joe Manchin, the most powerful man in the Senate, must combat his own President and party on a regular basis, while the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wing of the party attacks and berates him, leaving members who wish to keep control (like Speaker Nancy Pelosi) constantly trying to navigate the conflicts within their own party.

This all puts Pelosi in particular in a tight spot: The House Democrats have the slimmest majority in decades (an advantage of only six seats – seven when Troy Carter of Louisiana is sworn in) and are looking at a full slate of retiring members in the 2022 midterm.

Midterms are historically bad for the party in power, and for Democrats, that could mean a massive Republican wave taking away what scant power they have right now.

According to the Washington Post, there are potentially seven Democrats giving up their seats in the House.

The latest to announce her departure is Rep. Cheri Bustos (D-Ill.), the former head of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, who proclaimed her coming retirement Friday after narrowly winning reelection in a rural district along the Mississippi River that supported Donald Trump.

Rep. Charlie Crist (D-Fla.), who has been exploring another possible gubernatorial run, put out word Saturday that he would be making a “major announcement” this week, potentially putting at risk his St. Petersburg seat, where he ran ahead of President Biden in 2020.

Two other accomplished battleground incumbents — Reps. Filemon Vela Jr. (D-Texas) and Ann Kirkpatrick (D-Ariz.) — announced their plans to leave earlier this year, joining Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio), who is giving up a closely-contested seat to run for the U.S. Senate. Several more in competitive areas, including Democratic stars like Rep. Conor Lamb (D-Pa.) and Rep. Stephanie Murphy (D-Fla.) are also seriously considering runs for higher office later this year.


If it happens that the Democrats lose every one of those seats, then the Republicans are in good shape to reclaim the House. But even if some or all of those seats remain blue, the Democrats will have spent resources desperately needed elsewhere to maintain their majority. Their resources are going to be spread very thin next year, and it’s going to force them to make tough decisions on who to support and how much support to give them.

The Democrats are also going to have to figure out how to play it safe enough to mitigate their losses in 2022. Going too far left will drive moderates toward the Republicans. Going too far toward the middle will keep their rabid, far-left base at home. The philosophers Simon and Garfunkel may have been onto something when they said “either way you look at it, you lose.”

To make matters even worse for them, Republicans will control a lot of the redistricting across the country, giving them an advantage in future electoral maps. Not only are Democrats going to be fighting Republicans, but they are also now fighting the results of the census (and their own policies) as a result. Republican states gained seats, and Republican legislatures get to draw the maps.

When 2022 comes around, it’s looking like it’s going to be a bloodbath at the ballot box.

Yep!

Just like 2020 was!
 

Chance

Veteran Member
Why don't Republicans address the dominion voting machine, China election steal? They act like they can actually take the House!! What a lie!!

If Republicans 'take the house' it will be with RINOS that support Biden. The Democrat, Communists aren't the least concerned. They are in control now. And they aren't about to loose it all now! Imo.
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
The last thing both party's don't want to see is lots of pissed off people running as independents and getting the attention and traction in an election campaign and to top that off wining a seat in congress or senate.
 

undead

Veteran Member
I guess I find it hard to fathom how such a large swath of people (DEM) can so despise the country that they jack it up as much as this batch is doing.
 

Tarryn

Senior Member
The democrat voters have quit paying attention. I saw an article yesterday that quoted an MSM article that said 60% of democrats are happy with the direction of the country. In real life, all of the democrats at work have quit talking about politics. They are only listening to the MSM and now that the evil orange man is gone, everything is ok.

When this bubble pops, they are going to be blindsided.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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If

If we had a 'normal' economy, I would agree with you. But it ain't normal. Bidden just might be able to keep off the disaster for 18 months, let the GOP take over the legislature and then she crashes. And everybody here agrees there is not a damned thing anybody will be able to do about it once it has crashed. So Joe points out things were good (!) until the GOP got in.

And there is the GOP legislature thrashing around doing nothing that works as the MSM gleefully points that out..

Pretty far fetched timewise, but possible.
That’s fine as far as it goes. But beyond a doubt IMO, the GOPe and the DNC are planning the crash together.
 

fi103r

Veteran Member
I doubt any votes not ordained by slojo, the ho and the commies/dehimmiwits are going to be counted. who could you complain to?
sorry
this republic died of scotus on dec 14,2020
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edit spelling
 
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Henry Bowman

Veteran Member
“Stay relevant???”

That had nothing to do with it. They had to cheat to install communism.
Damn straight they did.

So few can really wrap their heads around this fact and the fact they have been at this for years....decades.

Nobody has EVER voted their way out of Communism.

But watch, there will be naysayers , paid operatives to be sure but naysayers all the same.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Damn straight they did.

So few can really wrap their heads around this fact and the fact they have been at this for years....decades.

Nobody has EVER voted their way out of Communism.

But watch, there will be naysayers , paid operatives to be sure but naysayers all the same.
Henry, there are many here, perhaps most, who are so deeply programmed by the political system they’ve lived within all their lives, that they’ll never understand it. Even if they pay lip service to it, deep down they believe a white knight will ride to the nation’s rescue. Well, Trump tried it, and they effectively emasculated him. Kushner was in on it IMO.
 

Jez

Veteran Member
Whatever helps people sleep. I think the better question would be:

Would a fully Republican legislature make things better? They had that in 2016, what changed? Nothing. Oh, I know, it was not the 'right' republicans. Just need to get in better republicans, then everything will be ducky.

'Vote like it won't matter' should be the mantra for 2022 and on.
I agree. The "right" Republicans line of thought is the same as the Left's argument "Communism works, but nobody has done it right".

My day's of voting straight Republican is over. I may vote in the primaries if the right candidate comes along, but I'm done just voting Republican. The Trump Presidency has exposed the Republican party for the farce it is.
 

Henry Bowman

Veteran Member
Henry, there are many here, perhaps most, who are so deeply programmed by the political system they’ve lived within all their lives, that they’ll never understand it. Even if they pay lip service to it, deep down they believe a white knight will ride to the nation’s rescue. Well, Trump tried it, and they effectively emasculated him. Kushner was in on it IMO.
I agree...but some , just a few, are actually playing "Conservative" / Trump Supporter etc... and will phew phew this as a conspiracy theory , even when they have been proved wrong time and time again.

These are the ones to watch out for, they are rats and love to pretend , given the opportunity they would turn you in in seconds or even slit your throat for their "Cause"

This is now so obvious, anyone who even comes close to denying it has to be looked at as suspect.
 

Henry Bowman

Veteran Member
I agree. The "right" Republicans line of thought is the same as the Left's argument "Communism works, but nobody has done it right".

My day's of voting straight Republican is over. I may vote in the primaries if the right candidate comes along, but I'm done just voting Republican. The Trump Presidency has exposed the Republican party for the farce it is.
Once again, NOBODY has ever voted their way out of Communism/Socialism ...NEVER.

There is no "This time it will be different" .
 
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