WTF?!? Article on stashing cash for a national emergency

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Me: are they trying to get us ready for something?​

Here’s How Much Cash You Need Stashed If a National Emergency Happens​

You've probably heard time and again that it's important to have a rainy-day fund set up "just in case" something unexpected were to happen. But we're now at a time when having an emergency fund is more vital than ever.

The coronavirus pandemic was a prime example of how something unexpected can have devastating effects on the economy at large and on an individual level, too. While we all hope the worst of it is over, here's how to be prepared in case it's not -- plus how to set up a fund for unexpected future national emergencies.

Why You Need a National Emergency Fund​

Part of being prepared for any contingency, big or small, is having a reserve of emergency cash at your disposal at all times. When you can't rely on accessing your funds electronically, you'll need some legal tender to buy food, gas or other necessities.

"Whether it's Mother Nature or some other disaster out of your control, you always want to be prepared by having some emergency cash on hand," said Annalee Leonard, an investment advisor representative and president of Mainstay Financial Group. "Banks and ATMs may not be up and running for days after a strong storm. I recommend my clients have three to five days' worth of spending money, just in case."

How To Decide How Much To Save​

To decide how much to save for an emergency fund, you'll need to ask yourself a couple of questions:

  • How much will I need for an extreme catastrophic event?
  • How much can I afford to save?
"It's wise to have a small amount of physical cash at home for the truest of emergencies when banks are not operating," said Priyanka Prakash, managing editor at Fit Small Business, a company that finds the best small-business software, services and financing options.

Aim To Save $2,000​

"Individuals should be prepared to pay for essential or non-discretionary expenses out-of-pocket," said Brett Tharp, CFP and financial planning education consultant at eMoney Advisor. "Temporary lodging or shelter, fuel, food, water and necessary medications fall into this category. This will differ for each person depending on their level of preparedness or perception of how likely a catastrophic event might be."

Two-thousand dollars should cover those costs.

"The rule of thumb I advise my clients is to keep $1,000 to $2,000 in cash in case banking operations are shut down due to a national emergency or catastrophe," said Gregory Brinkman, president of Brinkman Financial in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

There's No 'Magic Number' for How Much To Save in Your Emergency Fund​

Despite these suggestions and what some other experts might advise, though, there's no magic amount you should have nestled away in your emergency fund. The answer for how much you should save for an emergency situation is that you should do what feels right to you. No matter the amount, an emergency fund is absolutely necessary -- so make it a priority to build one.

Even if you can't afford to save much, it's better to save something rather than nothing, Prakash said. So if you can only afford to set aside $1,000 for an emergency fund, that's better than not saving at all.

The Cost of Covering Necessities​

Take into account that in a national emergency, inflation will rise, demand for necessities will increase and price gouging will likely ensue. With all that in mind, in addition to your regular emergency savings, you should prepare to have enough to cover the following costs in a national emergency situation:

Water -- 10 gallons$28
Gas -- 20 gallons$86
Portable solar generator$130
Battery-powered lights$20
Emergency solar hand-crank radio$20
Prices for gas and water will likely be much higher in the event of an actual national state of emergency. Note that the items in the table are emergency purchases for one person.

The Cost of an Emergency Kit​

You should already have some kind of emergency kit that includes these recommendations from Money.com:

  • Batteries and tools: $122
  • First aid supply kit: $48
  • Nonperishable food: $120
  • Medication: $38
  • Spare clothing: $44

How Is a National Emergency Fund Different From Other Savings?​

Unlike a regular emergency fund -- which should be used to cover things like unemployment, medical or car emergencies, emergency home repairs or bereavement-related expenses -- a national emergency fund should be reserved for catastrophes in which you cannot use credit cards.

Regular emergency savings should be stashed in some kind of savings, money market or certificate of deposit account. Your savings for a national emergency fund should be kept mostly in cash.

"Avoid the stock market because you can lose (your national emergency money) right when you need it the most," Prakash said.

Neither type of emergency fund is meant to be dipped into or spent like disposable income, and creating one takes the same approach as that for a rainy-day fund, a nest egg or any other savings.

How To Start an Emergency Fund​

The first step in saving for a national emergency fund is creating a budget, said Rachel Cruze, author and host of The Rachel Cruze Show and The Rachel Cruze Show podcast.

"A zero-based budget is best," she said. "This is where your income minus expenses equals zero, so you are giving every dollar a name. Even if your income has changed or you've lost your job, list out any possible income you could have coming in and all your expenses. This will help you to see what can be cut from your budget so you can stretch your money further and find ways to save."

Set Savings Goals​

Once you set your budget and see how much money you can realistically dedicate toward savings, it's time to start setting some goals. Financial author Dave Ramsey and many other experts suggest starting small. If you're looking to set aside $3,000 in one year, that would mean you'll have to save $250 per month over the next 12 months. Extend your savings goal to 18 months, and that's $166 per month.

Or you can automate saving a percentage of your income. "Put aside about 10% of your monthly take-home income for your emergency fund," Prakash said.

Make Saving for Your Emergency Fund a Priority​

It's especially vital right now to focus on saving, with job insecurity at a high and stock values plummeting.

"It's important to not panic but to be proactive in planning your finances over the next few months, considering different strategies for saving more money and having cash on hand," said Chalmers Brown, CTO and co-founder of Due. "I recommend doing a review of your new budget, considering your current job situation as well as accounting for reductions in spending. For example, since you are quarantined, you are most likely spending considerably less on gas, eating out and entertainment. Take that money out of your bank that you would have spent and put it in a lockbox as cash."


Put Other Contributions on Hold While You Build Your Emergency Fund​

When you're in the process of building your emergency fund, limit other saving contributions or debt repayments to only the necessary amount, Tharp said.

"For example, contribute enough to your company's 401(k) to get the full company match and allocate the additional funds to your emergency savings," he said. "Additionally, maintain the minimum payments on outstanding debt to keep loan balances steady while directing additional money toward your emergency fund. Once you've built up enough savings, you can continue to contribute money to other longer-term goals."

go to the link. This article literally just keeps going on and on and on.
 
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BadMedicine

Would *I* Lie???
"We understand you are living paycheck to paycheck an the standard of living has decreased for almost 50 years and inflation is conservatively 25% year over year but, put $2000 in small bills in your sock drawer in case you need it in the future MORE THAN you NEED IT TODAY."


Sorry, this article is going to help no one. It's not even a "feel good" due to it's level of disconnect. I mean, I agree you need cash (or barterable goods on hand).. but telling people "min 1-2k.." yeah, no.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
"We understand you are living paycheck to paycheck an the standard of living has decreased for almost 50 years and inflation is conservatively 25% year over year but, put $2000 in small bills in your sock drawer in case you need it in the future MORE THAN you NEED IT TODAY."


Sorry, this article is going to help no one. It's not even a "feel good" due to it's level of disconnect. I mean, I agree you need cash (or barterable goods on hand).. but telling people "min 1-2k.." yeah, no.

2K will barely pay for you to be cremated and that's with having your ashes stored inside of a cardboard urn!
 

anna43

Veteran Member
I guess preparing now is better than never. So very thankful that we started over 25 years ago. I'm sure there are things I've missed, but at this point I'm satisfied I've done the best that I can.

I've read articles in the past that suggest six months living expenses in cash. I have no desire to have that much cash at home subject to theft, fire, tornado etc. Since I have no need to rush out to buy the suggested items my cash needs are fairly low. I guess each family will have to decide on how much they are willing to keep on-hand.
so . . . POS credit/debit card machines won't work . . .
which means, the cash register won't work and
there is not a soul left that can count change.

What ya gonna do?

I actually took time to show a high school girl at the ice cream shop how to count change back after she shorted me a couple dollars. I did it in a nice way and we were the only ones there. Doubt she appreciated it tho!!
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I've read articles in the past that suggest six months living expenses in cash. I have no desire to have that much cash at home subject to theft, fire, tornado etc. Since I have no need to rush out to buy the suggested items my cash needs are fairly low. I guess each family will have to decide on how much they are willing to keep on-hand.

Most people I know who have cash on hand have about $300 to 500 on hand, the rest is in a reserve savings account that's not to be touched unless there's a major emergency.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
Author:
Jaime Catmull
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is a personal finance expert with over 15 years in the space. She is the founder of Catmull Consulting and Vice President of Brand Partnerships for GOBankingRates.com. Her work can be found on Business Insider, US News & World Report, the Huffington Post, Yahoo!
 

Sacajawea

Has No Life - Lives on TB
That amount of cash is WAAAAAY low. In every category. Maybe the article is intended to get people thinking about the what-ifs... I dunno.

Raven's point is REAL, btw. After hurricane Irene and power was back on most places, I asked in Walmart what they would do in an extended power outage; would they take cash? (Of course I did; I realized there are no price tags anymore on items; only bar codes.) I was told that no; because their registers also updated their inventory - and triggered replacement orders - they couldn't check anyone out regardless of payment type because the registers don't work without the barcode scanners.

Note that more and more stores are using the same system - even my podunk hardware store.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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don't worry . . . you aren't going to have to pay for your cremation . . . and you aren't gonna care

PS - Taxidermy's the thing anyway.
Stuff me in the “upright grizzly bear” pose please. If I can’t be intimidating in life, maybe I can in death….
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
"We understand you are living paycheck to paycheck an the standard of living has decreased for almost 50 years and inflation is conservatively 25% year over year but, put $2000 in small bills in your sock drawer in case you need it in the future MORE THAN you NEED IT TODAY."


Sorry, this article is going to help no one. It's not even a "feel good" due to it's level of disconnect. I mean, I agree you need cash (or barterable goods on hand).. but telling people "min 1-2k.." yeah, no.
Right!
It’s not a feel good article for anyone who can barely manage paying monthly bills, let ALONE be able to save up five cents!
It only adds to the anxiety about how much basics like food, cost.

Not a feel good at all,
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
It's and interesting article, I'd say for beginners, those just waking up to the notion the sky could fall in.

But most all the recommendations are too little too late. I'm betting the average prepper on this forum has plenty of everything needed.

Some may think cash will be worthless, well maybe so. However if there is a full long term crash of the grid, there has got to be some medium of exchange. It's reasonable to expect cash to be it, if nothing else among private individuals that are willing to sell.

But no one knows exactly how goods can be acquired in a total SHTF scenario. Maybe just a bartering system where bullets and food are the best medium of exchange and cash is used to start fires for home heating. Gold will work, but determining a monetary value could cause someone with a $1000 (at today's value) in gold to spend it on just a couple day's worth of groceries.

Personally, I think if you don't already have it, you're screwed.
 

NHGUNNER

Senior Member

"Whether it's Mother Nature or some other disaster out of your control, you always want to be prepared by having some emergency cash on hand," said Annalee Leonard, an investment advisor representative and president of Mainstay Financial Group. "Banks and ATMs may not be up and running for days after a strong storm. I recommend my clients have three to five days' worth of spending money, just in case."​

The article is talking about having $2,000 to cover 3 to 5 days worth of expenses in a hotel and buying food. Not the amount of money need to support yourself for 6-12 months.
 

amazon

Veteran Member
I took the article differently. I thought it was just to get people thinking/preparing for lower level emergencies...power outage, short term supply issues, storms, ect. The target audience for that article is not your average TB'er. It's probably people who keep no food in the house, no money in their wallet, with extremely limited knowledge base of what to do if things diverge from the current status quo.

Of course, my reading comprehension skills seem to be declining with age.....
 

anna43

Veteran Member
Today two grand is not enough and 25 30 years ago yeah that much money may take care of you for a short while, today two grand is just enough to pay the months rent never mind getting into paying other bills.
That would depend on how much your monthly bills are. A lot of us seniors live on mess than $2,000 a month. I worry about my grandson and people like him because he has two car payments, house payment, dentist payment, credit card payments on top of usual food, utilities, gas and NO EMERGENCY FUND AS IN ZERO.
 

babysteps

Veteran Member
For example, since you are quarantined, you are most likely spending considerably less on gas, eating out and entertainment. Take that money out of your bank that you would have spent and put it in a lockbox as cash."

Huh. Is this an old article? Who's quarantined these days?
 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
Huh. Is this an old article? Who's quarantined these days?

Jaime Catmull
Mon, November 28, 2022 at 9:30 AM
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Therefore, this is a DOT coming from yaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhoooooooooooooooo!

"Hey Jamie, I ain't quarantined, and I am not going to be!"
 

Matt

Veteran Member
Jaime Catmull
Mon, November 28, 2022 at 9:30 AM
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Therefore, this is a DOT coming from yaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhoooooooooooooooo!

"Hey Jamie, I ain't quarantined, and I am not going to be!"

Klaus says....."hold my beer!"

"WEF Founder Klaus Schwab Says China Is 'Role Model for Many Countries'"

"We should be very careful in imposing systems," he concluded, "but the Chinese model is certainly a very attractive model for quite a number of countries.""

 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
Klaus says....."hold my beer!"

"WEF Founder Klaus Schwab Says China Is 'Role Model for Many Countries'"

"We should be very careful in imposing systems," he concluded, "but the Chinese model is certainly a very attractive model for quite a number of countries.""


I can't stand that evil, evil guy and am wondering what he is up to...
 

Matt

Veteran Member
I can't stand that evil, evil guy and am wondering what he is up to...
Well... he is currently shutting down the railroads, collapsing the crypto market, and pushing a bank run on Credit Suisse.... folks will be begging for lockdowns before he is done!

"You thought FTX was bad? Oh, that was just some light foreplay…

Credit Suisse (CS) revealed $88 billion in client outflows over the last few weeks and now warns shareholders it will report a fourth quarter loss of up to $1.5 billion."

 
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