Mark D
Now running for Emperor.
I have a "few" of those; as well as the MecGar 17's (which is what Beretta should have been using as the OEM mag for the last couple of decades).
GUNS/RLTD Army Adopts Sig Sauer Sidearm/Sig P320 ( original post date 1-20-2017 )
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I have a "few" of those; as well as the MecGar 17's (which is what Beretta should have been using as the OEM mag for the last couple of decades).
blueinterceptor
Veteran Member
I happened across a 320 compact at the lgs. I wanted to try the trigger. I had pulled the trigger and truthfully did not realize it. Incredibly light.
Mark D
Now running for Emperor.
Dosadi
Brown Coat
Just gotta bust your chops a bit... ;-)
LOL
Not the first one, probably won't be the last one to argue that point with pics n words.
Those who tested the real thing can't comment except for myself.
I'll stand by my opinions.
That said
I do have a couple of sigs and play with them from time to time, but I would pretty much have to make a special effort to leave the 1911 behind while playing with them.
No worries friend, everyone has opinions, kinda like armpits, some are sweet smelling, and some stink.
It varies from time to time and person to person.
UH OH.....
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http://taskandpurpose.com/sigs-p320-armys-new-handgun-fire-multiple-reports-safety-defects/
Sig’s P320, The Army’s New Handgun, Is In Hot Water After Multiple Reports Of Safety Defects
By MATTHEW MOSS on August 9, 2017 T&P ON FACEBOOK
714 shares
Since winning the U.S. Army’s coveted Modular Handgun System competition back in January, things have been less than smooth sailing for Sig Sauer. First, Sig’s primary MHS rival Glock lodged a protest with the U.S. Government Accountability Office in February, which was subsequently thrown out. Then in May, Steyr launched legal proceedings to sue Sig for patent infringement.
Sig’s problems worsened last week when online rumors broke suggesting that the P320 was prone to accidental discharges when dropped. Two videos have since emerged that show the Sig pistol firing when dropped. The first shows the pistol discharging when landing on its magazine base.
The second, from a gun store, Omaha Outdoors, shows the pistol firing when it lands on the rear of the slide assembly near the weapon’s striker.
Both videos clearly show the pistols’ trigger travelling rearward under inertia, suggesting that the mass of the trigger when jarred is causing it to move enough to trip the pistol’s sear. Omaha Outdoors’ video has racked up 90,000 views in just a day and the retailer have temporarily discontinue sales of the P320. The Truth About Guns have also subsequently replicated the test with similar results.
The Sig lacks a built in trigger safety like that used by its rival Glock; however, it is worth noting that the MHS -winning XM17 has a frame mounted manual safety which would theoretically prevent accidental drop discharges.
The situation took a serious turn on after a police officer filed a $7 million lawsuit against Sig Sauer after he was injured when his P320 accidentally hit the ground and discharged, hitting him in the left leg, according to Guns.com. Court documents show that the officer, an experienced member of Connecticut Police Department’s Special Response Team, was injured in January and has claimed the weapon is not drop-safe. The report from Connecticut is the only accidental drop discharge so far reported to have caused injury. Stamford Police Department have subsequently shelved its duty-issue P320s because of the incident
The P320 is on the approved-carry lists of a large number of police departments including Dallas, Santa Barbara, and the North Dakota Highway Patrol. On Monday, Aug. 8, the Dallas Police Department also announced that they were removing the P320 from their approved-carry list pending an investigation into whether the pistol accidentally fires when dropped.
This isn’t the first time Sig have come under fire for faulty duty pistols. Back in April, New Jersey sued Sig Sauer for $2.5 million, claiming the company provided defective guns to state police. These pistols, however, were P229s not P320s. Sig claimed that it was the ammunition New Jersey police were using, not the guns themselves that were causing failure to extract malfunctions.
On Aug. 4, Sig released a statement responding to the building allegations of P320 drop-test failures, stating, “The P320 meets and exceeds all U.S. standards for safety, including the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) and Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers’ Institute, Inc. (SAAMI), as well as rigorous testing protocols for global military and law enforcement agencies.” Task & Purpose approached Sig for fresh comment but has not had a reply by the time of publication.
It seems that the weight of opinion has pushed Sig Sauer to acknowledge there is a problem with the P320. On Aug. 8, the company announced a voluntary upgrade program for the P320’s trigger. While Sig have not outlined what the modification will be yet; their most recent press release claims that details of this program on Aug. 14. The statement goes on to reaffirm that the P320 passed the ANSI and SAAMI tests and stresses that the unintentional discharges only occur when the P320 is dropped “beyond US standards for safety.”
Sig was keen to emphasize that “The M17 variant of the P320, selected by the U.S. government as the U.S. Army’s Modular Handgun System (MHS), is not affected by the Voluntary Upgrade.” It seems likely that the upgrade will be incorporated into pistols destined for the U.S. military.
While the P320 is the basis for the MHS XM17, it remains to be seen if the Army’s new pistol will suffer similar issues with drop safety. Task & Purpose will continue to bring updates as this story develops.
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Sig’s P320, The Army’s New Handgun, Is In Hot Water After Multiple Reports Of Safety Defects
By MATTHEW MOSS on August 9, 2017 T&P ON FACEBOOK
714 shares
Since winning the U.S. Army’s coveted Modular Handgun System competition back in January, things have been less than smooth sailing for Sig Sauer. First, Sig’s primary MHS rival Glock lodged a protest with the U.S. Government Accountability Office in February, which was subsequently thrown out. Then in May, Steyr launched legal proceedings to sue Sig for patent infringement.
Sig’s problems worsened last week when online rumors broke suggesting that the P320 was prone to accidental discharges when dropped. Two videos have since emerged that show the Sig pistol firing when dropped. The first shows the pistol discharging when landing on its magazine base.
The second, from a gun store, Omaha Outdoors, shows the pistol firing when it lands on the rear of the slide assembly near the weapon’s striker.
Both videos clearly show the pistols’ trigger travelling rearward under inertia, suggesting that the mass of the trigger when jarred is causing it to move enough to trip the pistol’s sear. Omaha Outdoors’ video has racked up 90,000 views in just a day and the retailer have temporarily discontinue sales of the P320. The Truth About Guns have also subsequently replicated the test with similar results.
The Sig lacks a built in trigger safety like that used by its rival Glock; however, it is worth noting that the MHS -winning XM17 has a frame mounted manual safety which would theoretically prevent accidental drop discharges.
The situation took a serious turn on after a police officer filed a $7 million lawsuit against Sig Sauer after he was injured when his P320 accidentally hit the ground and discharged, hitting him in the left leg, according to Guns.com. Court documents show that the officer, an experienced member of Connecticut Police Department’s Special Response Team, was injured in January and has claimed the weapon is not drop-safe. The report from Connecticut is the only accidental drop discharge so far reported to have caused injury. Stamford Police Department have subsequently shelved its duty-issue P320s because of the incident
The P320 is on the approved-carry lists of a large number of police departments including Dallas, Santa Barbara, and the North Dakota Highway Patrol. On Monday, Aug. 8, the Dallas Police Department also announced that they were removing the P320 from their approved-carry list pending an investigation into whether the pistol accidentally fires when dropped.
This isn’t the first time Sig have come under fire for faulty duty pistols. Back in April, New Jersey sued Sig Sauer for $2.5 million, claiming the company provided defective guns to state police. These pistols, however, were P229s not P320s. Sig claimed that it was the ammunition New Jersey police were using, not the guns themselves that were causing failure to extract malfunctions.
On Aug. 4, Sig released a statement responding to the building allegations of P320 drop-test failures, stating, “The P320 meets and exceeds all U.S. standards for safety, including the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) and Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers’ Institute, Inc. (SAAMI), as well as rigorous testing protocols for global military and law enforcement agencies.” Task & Purpose approached Sig for fresh comment but has not had a reply by the time of publication.
It seems that the weight of opinion has pushed Sig Sauer to acknowledge there is a problem with the P320. On Aug. 8, the company announced a voluntary upgrade program for the P320’s trigger. While Sig have not outlined what the modification will be yet; their most recent press release claims that details of this program on Aug. 14. The statement goes on to reaffirm that the P320 passed the ANSI and SAAMI tests and stresses that the unintentional discharges only occur when the P320 is dropped “beyond US standards for safety.”
Sig was keen to emphasize that “The M17 variant of the P320, selected by the U.S. government as the U.S. Army’s Modular Handgun System (MHS), is not affected by the Voluntary Upgrade.” It seems likely that the upgrade will be incorporated into pistols destined for the U.S. military.
While the P320 is the basis for the MHS XM17, it remains to be seen if the Army’s new pistol will suffer similar issues with drop safety. Task & Purpose will continue to bring updates as this story develops.
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Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
New US Army handgun
Here is a link about the handgun being issued to US Army soldiers.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/army-getting-gun-everything-know-122400605.html
The Army Is Getting a New Gun: Everything We Know About the M17 Pistol
[The National Interest]
The National Interest•December 4, 2017
Kris Osborn
The Army Is Getting a New Gun: Everything We Know About the M17 Pistol
When it comes to fast-evolving tactics now used in close-quarter combat, something with which Army soldiers fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan now have more than a decade of experience, an ability to maneuver with increased lethality in caves, tunnels, crawl spaces, attics or buildings allows soldiers to access life-impacting firepower more effectively - especially in “tight quarters” situations where a longer, larger rifle may not be available for use.
Soldiers with the Army’s 101st Airborne Division have been the first to receive the services’ new high-tech 9mm pistol engineered to give dismounted infantry a vastly increased ability to fight and close with an enemy in caves, tunnels, crawl spaces, houses and other close quarter combat scenarios.
Service weapons developers and soldiers say the new M17 and M18 pistol, designed as a next-generation handgun to follow the Army’s current M9 Beretta, is expected to substantially change combat tactics, techniques and strategies for dismounted soldiers on-the-move.
“You can close with the enemy in close quarter combat and engage the enemy with one hand. It is tough to do this with the M9,” said Lt. Col. Martin O’Donnell, spokesman for the 101st Airborne.
The new pistol is built with a more ergonomic configuration to better accommodate the widest possible range of hand grip techniques for soldiers and enable rapid hand switching as needed in combat. The M17 is said by developers to bring much tighter dispersion, improved versatility and next-generation accuracy.
“With this weapon, you can change quickly from right hand to left hand. If you are shooting something that is not comfortable on your hand and can't get a comfortable grip, it is not as accurate,” said Sgt. 1st Class Andrew Flynn, 101st Division Master Gunner.
The new handguns are built with an external safety, self-illuminating sights for low-light conditions, an integrated rail for attaching enablers and an Army standard suppressor conversion kit to attach an acoustic/flash suppressor, service developers said.
“It increases target recognition and increases capability with night sights,” said Lt. Col. Steven Power, Individual Weapons Product Manager, Soldier Weapons.
The Army is now acquiring thousands of full-size XM17 and compact XM18 versions of the new 9mm pistol. The XM17 fires 147 grain jacketed hollow point ammunition.
When it comes to fast-evolving tactics now used in close-quarter combat, something with which Army soldiers fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan now have more than a decade of experience, an ability to maneuver with increased lethality in caves, tunnels, crawl spaces, attics or buildings allows soldiers to access life-impacting firepower more effectively - especially in “tight quarters” situations where a longer, larger rifle may not be available for use.
Fast emerging targets and quick-changing circumstances, fundamental to close-quarter combat, naturally require rapid decision making and on-the spot flexibility amid military confrontation. Requirements and technical improvements with the M17 were specifically designed with this in mind, Army developers emphasized.
“This ads a whole new dynamic to close-quarter combat. A standard pistol cannot change grips or allow a soldier to switch from a right-handed shooter to a left-handed shooter. This is a great capability for us to put in play,” Flynn said.
Close quarter combat, while considered indispensable to successful counterinsurgency warfare, is also something of significant relevance to large-scale force-on-force, mechanized combat against a potential near-peer adversary. Urban warfare - from urban combat in WWII to house-to-house fighting in Hue City in Vietnam - is naturally a long-standing component of major war as well.
Power explained that the Army’s M17 acquisition effort unfolded on a massively accelerated timeframe, moving to contract within 10 months.
“We are dual arming the infantry at the position of team leader and above,” Power said.
The fast-tracked acquisition effort, which merged work from the Army Research Lab and the Army’s Armament Research, Development and Engineering Center, drew heavily from modeling and simulation to expedite development of the new weapon.
The Army has been closely coordinating with the Special Operations community regarding training and development of the new handgun, given the consistency with which close-quarter combat is utilized by SOF.
The M17 and M18 pistols are manufactured by Sig Sauer, who earned the $580 million contract to produce the weapons in January of this year.
Other competitors included Glock, FN America and Beretta USA.
Here is a link about the handgun being issued to US Army soldiers.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/army-getting-gun-everything-know-122400605.html
The Army Is Getting a New Gun: Everything We Know About the M17 Pistol
[The National Interest]
The National Interest•December 4, 2017
Kris Osborn
The Army Is Getting a New Gun: Everything We Know About the M17 Pistol
When it comes to fast-evolving tactics now used in close-quarter combat, something with which Army soldiers fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan now have more than a decade of experience, an ability to maneuver with increased lethality in caves, tunnels, crawl spaces, attics or buildings allows soldiers to access life-impacting firepower more effectively - especially in “tight quarters” situations where a longer, larger rifle may not be available for use.
Soldiers with the Army’s 101st Airborne Division have been the first to receive the services’ new high-tech 9mm pistol engineered to give dismounted infantry a vastly increased ability to fight and close with an enemy in caves, tunnels, crawl spaces, houses and other close quarter combat scenarios.
Service weapons developers and soldiers say the new M17 and M18 pistol, designed as a next-generation handgun to follow the Army’s current M9 Beretta, is expected to substantially change combat tactics, techniques and strategies for dismounted soldiers on-the-move.
“You can close with the enemy in close quarter combat and engage the enemy with one hand. It is tough to do this with the M9,” said Lt. Col. Martin O’Donnell, spokesman for the 101st Airborne.
The new pistol is built with a more ergonomic configuration to better accommodate the widest possible range of hand grip techniques for soldiers and enable rapid hand switching as needed in combat. The M17 is said by developers to bring much tighter dispersion, improved versatility and next-generation accuracy.
“With this weapon, you can change quickly from right hand to left hand. If you are shooting something that is not comfortable on your hand and can't get a comfortable grip, it is not as accurate,” said Sgt. 1st Class Andrew Flynn, 101st Division Master Gunner.
The new handguns are built with an external safety, self-illuminating sights for low-light conditions, an integrated rail for attaching enablers and an Army standard suppressor conversion kit to attach an acoustic/flash suppressor, service developers said.
“It increases target recognition and increases capability with night sights,” said Lt. Col. Steven Power, Individual Weapons Product Manager, Soldier Weapons.
The Army is now acquiring thousands of full-size XM17 and compact XM18 versions of the new 9mm pistol. The XM17 fires 147 grain jacketed hollow point ammunition.
When it comes to fast-evolving tactics now used in close-quarter combat, something with which Army soldiers fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan now have more than a decade of experience, an ability to maneuver with increased lethality in caves, tunnels, crawl spaces, attics or buildings allows soldiers to access life-impacting firepower more effectively - especially in “tight quarters” situations where a longer, larger rifle may not be available for use.
Fast emerging targets and quick-changing circumstances, fundamental to close-quarter combat, naturally require rapid decision making and on-the spot flexibility amid military confrontation. Requirements and technical improvements with the M17 were specifically designed with this in mind, Army developers emphasized.
“This ads a whole new dynamic to close-quarter combat. A standard pistol cannot change grips or allow a soldier to switch from a right-handed shooter to a left-handed shooter. This is a great capability for us to put in play,” Flynn said.
Close quarter combat, while considered indispensable to successful counterinsurgency warfare, is also something of significant relevance to large-scale force-on-force, mechanized combat against a potential near-peer adversary. Urban warfare - from urban combat in WWII to house-to-house fighting in Hue City in Vietnam - is naturally a long-standing component of major war as well.
Power explained that the Army’s M17 acquisition effort unfolded on a massively accelerated timeframe, moving to contract within 10 months.
“We are dual arming the infantry at the position of team leader and above,” Power said.
The fast-tracked acquisition effort, which merged work from the Army Research Lab and the Army’s Armament Research, Development and Engineering Center, drew heavily from modeling and simulation to expedite development of the new weapon.
The Army has been closely coordinating with the Special Operations community regarding training and development of the new handgun, given the consistency with which close-quarter combat is utilized by SOF.
The M17 and M18 pistols are manufactured by Sig Sauer, who earned the $580 million contract to produce the weapons in January of this year.
Other competitors included Glock, FN America and Beretta USA.
Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
HM, I see I posted to that thread already. So, mods just merge them. I posted this one since it goes more into the tactics and reasons the US Army went with this particular handgun.
Doc1
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I like the fact that it has a thumb safety. I wish Glock and other manufacturers offered that as an option. If they did I believe they would take much greater market share. You can send Glocks out to a couple of different aftermarket firms that will install a thumb safety, but it's not available as a factory option and most other manufacturer's pistols don't even have that possibility.
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Doc
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Jez
Veteran Member
You should realize Housecarl that the 9mm versus the 45 ACP ammo argument here at timebomb is like waving raw meat in front of a starving wolf pack!
Not to mention it's like "The Gospel of John Moses Browning" vs. "The Church of Gaston Glock". Sometimes it's worse than religious arguments.
I thought it WAS a religious argument....
Mark D
Now running for Emperor.
Safeties don't belong on fighting handguns.
Snyper
Veteran Member
Military contractors have to produce the products here.
Snyper
Veteran Member
You're confusing the Geneva Conventions with the Hague Convention.
The latter covers ammunition types and we never signed that one.
However we're continually giving it more than lip service.
Remember a big reason for going 9X19 mm NATO was the mass fielding of flak jackets by the Warsaw Pact in the 1980s.
Now that body armor is becoming common place in combat areas the US operates in, that's again a driver and why the contract included new higher performance ammunition than current issue.
Mark D
Now running for Emperor.
Several years ago our armed forces were cleared to use JHP on terrorists, since the Jihadis are classified as criminals rather than members of a uniformed military. This is a good thing, since Winchester Ranger RA9T, Federal HST Tactical, or Speer Gold Dots, do a REALLY good job as putting an end to arguments with folks who like to blow-up women and children in the name of their pedophile warlord.
IIRC, 147gr Federal HST Tactical outperforms most .45ACP loads with regards to expansion after passing through clothing, tissue penetration, and barrier defeat (windshields). There is a TON of tech in those rounds.
Hognutz
Has No Life - Lives on TB
In that case why not load hollow points in 5.56?
ArisenCarcass
Veteran Member
The USMC has been using "open tip match" bullets in rifles for about a decade. They now use the mk.318 otm, but previously used the mk 262. These are both devastating on unarmored foes....like in the sandbox.
The m17 was always supposed to shoot "enhanced" ammunition.
The Raiders went from multi-million dollar project USMC 1911s to stock G19s.
SOCOM has been using discretionary money for years to buy G17/G19 pistols (Weaponsman did a piece on this before he passed).
Glock owns 70% of the law enforcement market and a significant portion of the civilian market.
All that said, the modularity that is so touted on the s320 is locked, disallowing lower level armorers the ability to swap anything.
The program was rushed to beat Trump's inauguration, and it was developed with socom (who use many guns, but for years mainly glocks).
I said all of that to say: My name is AC and I love Glocks.
The m17 was always supposed to shoot "enhanced" ammunition.
The Raiders went from multi-million dollar project USMC 1911s to stock G19s.
SOCOM has been using discretionary money for years to buy G17/G19 pistols (Weaponsman did a piece on this before he passed).
Glock owns 70% of the law enforcement market and a significant portion of the civilian market.
All that said, the modularity that is so touted on the s320 is locked, disallowing lower level armorers the ability to swap anything.
The program was rushed to beat Trump's inauguration, and it was developed with socom (who use many guns, but for years mainly glocks).
I said all of that to say: My name is AC and I love Glocks.
Mark D
Now running for Emperor.
Because velocity does the damage with 5.56; you don't want a JHP in that cartridge for humans.
Mark D
Now running for Emperor.
And the 5.7 has been dropped by every agency that fielded it because it simply isn't a manstopper - as it was never designed to be one.
OTM (Open tip Match) bullets (in rifle calibers) are called that because they need a place for an extraction wire to push the VERY precisely manufactured bullet out of it's mold. OTM bullets are not hollow points; they perform almost identically to Mil-Spec FMJ rounds, save for the fact that their jacket is somewhat thinner and more consistent in geometry, and, they tend to deform more easily than FMJ in the terminal phase. Here again, the damage done to tissue is from velocity and yaw; a rifle JHP would be silly to use on humans, as the bullets tend to "vaporize" quickly and fail to reliably penetrate to depth. One could argue for the use of JSP rifle bullets such as some of the newer big game loads, but those cartridges don't lend themselves to magazine storage well, and accuracy can easily suffer - and accuracy is the name of the game.
ArisenCarcass
Veteran Member
I was not aware of the full production method (trying to verify "wire mold extraction" with video) just the reverse drawn jacket, which is fairly standard on hunting rounds.
I know the functional difference between otm and jhp, but it can be (and is) argued that otm are jhp. This was a big fuss before the mk.318 adoption ~7 years ago.
Also in most engagements the "yaw" leads to violent fragmentation in 5.56 .mil rounds. It is only in places like Afghanistan that engagement distances were pushed beyond the 5.56 ideal envelope (past ~200yds for M16, ~150yds for M4) that the effectiveness suffered (because fragmentation is velocity dependent). Also places like Somalia, where the opponent was emaciated and the slower to frag m855 was used, produced similar "icepicking."
The Russian 7n6 for the ak74 and the 8m3 for the ak47 are "yaw dependent rounds."
Otm v jhp
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/04/23/why-otm-≠-jhp/
7n6
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/05/28/poison-pill-indeed-7n6-out-of-a-krinkov/
8m3
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/02/09/return-8m3-effect-bullet/
Mark D
Now running for Emperor.
Somalia is a good argument for having the option of JSP or a bonded expanding bullet. But then again, our guys were basically shooting reanimated skeletons, so the best option was probably 20mm/40mm HE from an AC-130 (but Clinton didn't let them have that option).
I just came across this (note the listed price)......HC
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Wilson Combat-SIG SAUER WCP320
Base Price: $1195
Wilson Combat and SIG SAUER are pleased to announce the availability of our second Wilson Combat enhanced P320 9mm semi-automatic pistol collaboration, the WCP320 Carry.
View: https://youtu.be/gTnnFpYTOIw
DESCRIPTION
Wilson Combat gunsmiths and engineers have completely reworked a SIG SAUER P320 chassis and unfinished SIG manufactured compact slide into a “Professional” size, full-size grip with 3-slot accessory rail for a portable, yet full-capacity 9mm handgun.
Using the all-new Wilson Combat SIG P320 Carry grip module, our in-house re-machined slide and Wilson Combat performance battle sights, the Wilson Combat Optimized WCP320 Carry will become a favorite of those who want a smaller than full-size striker-fired handgun that is perfect for defensive use and concealed carry.
This robust, fast handling pistol wears our Wilson Combat engineered polymer Carry-2 grip module with 3-slot rail. This newly designed and manufactured grip has enhanced traction, smoother reloading, improved pointablity and superb recoil control in dynamic shooting. This grip turns an already solid platform into an ergonomic shooting machine.
The WCP320 Carry’s compact slide has been machined with the Wilson Combat X-TAC pattern for improved manipulation under stress. The front and rear cocking serrations, as well as the slide top, wear this signature Wilson Combat pattern.
The stainless steel slide and chromoly barrel wear the most advanced black DLC (Diamond-like-Carbon) physical vapor deposition finish available. This finish has chromium and tungsten underlayers for long-lasting corrosion and abrasion resistance.
The SIG SAUER flat-faced XFULL trigger is standard on the WCP320 and gives shooters a lower finger position on the trigger which increases leverage for a lighter, smoother trigger pull.
The pull can be further enhanced by Wilson Combat gunsmiths with our optional action tune using Grayguns custom trigger parts.
*Photos may include features and/or upgrades not included in the base price.
SPECIFICATIONS
MORE INFO
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SIG / Wilson Combat P320, Full-Size, Black Module, 9mm
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SIG/Wilson Combat WCP320 Full-Size Specifications
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Since the WCP320 is a joint collaboration between Wilson Combat and SIG SAUER we have agreed to handle customer service for the following: Accuracy, reliability, sights, and slide/ grip defects. SIG SAUER will be the appropriate service location for any broken or defective SIG SAUER factory parts excluding the slide.
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Wilson Combat SIG SAUER P320 Carry - Wilson Combat
www.wilsoncombat.com
Wilson Combat-SIG SAUER WCP320
Base Price: $1195
Wilson Combat and SIG SAUER are pleased to announce the availability of our second Wilson Combat enhanced P320 9mm semi-automatic pistol collaboration, the WCP320 Carry.
DESCRIPTION
Wilson Combat gunsmiths and engineers have completely reworked a SIG SAUER P320 chassis and unfinished SIG manufactured compact slide into a “Professional” size, full-size grip with 3-slot accessory rail for a portable, yet full-capacity 9mm handgun.
Using the all-new Wilson Combat SIG P320 Carry grip module, our in-house re-machined slide and Wilson Combat performance battle sights, the Wilson Combat Optimized WCP320 Carry will become a favorite of those who want a smaller than full-size striker-fired handgun that is perfect for defensive use and concealed carry.
This robust, fast handling pistol wears our Wilson Combat engineered polymer Carry-2 grip module with 3-slot rail. This newly designed and manufactured grip has enhanced traction, smoother reloading, improved pointablity and superb recoil control in dynamic shooting. This grip turns an already solid platform into an ergonomic shooting machine.
The WCP320 Carry’s compact slide has been machined with the Wilson Combat X-TAC pattern for improved manipulation under stress. The front and rear cocking serrations, as well as the slide top, wear this signature Wilson Combat pattern.
The stainless steel slide and chromoly barrel wear the most advanced black DLC (Diamond-like-Carbon) physical vapor deposition finish available. This finish has chromium and tungsten underlayers for long-lasting corrosion and abrasion resistance.
The SIG SAUER flat-faced XFULL trigger is standard on the WCP320 and gives shooters a lower finger position on the trigger which increases leverage for a lighter, smoother trigger pull.
The pull can be further enhanced by Wilson Combat gunsmiths with our optional action tune using Grayguns custom trigger parts.
*Photos may include features and/or upgrades not included in the base price.
- Available Calibers: 9mm
- Magazine Capacity: 17 rounds
- Barrel Length: 3.9”
- Overall Length: 7.5”
- Sight Radius: 5.75”
- Height: 5.5”
- Width: 1.5”
- Weight Empty: 26.8 oz
- Weight Loaded: 34.2 oz
SPECIFICATIONS
- Wilson Combat P320 Carry II Module
- Wilson Combat X-TAC P320 Carry Slide with Machine Bevels
- Black DLC Finish on Slide and Barrel
- X-TAC Pattern Front and Rear Cocking Serrations
- X-TAC Pattern on Slide Top
- Carry Cut
- Wilson Combat Logo on Slide
- Wilson Combat Battlesight with Red Fiber Optic Front Sight
- SIG factory magazine release
- SIG factory Slide Stop
- SIG P320 X-Full Size Steel trigger
- 2 17rd X-Series Magazines
- 9mm caliber only
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- Rail for mounting light or laser
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Wilson Combat-SIG SAUER WCP320 Semi-Automatic Pistol
Wilson Combat-SIG SAUER WCP320 Semi-Automatic Pistol
Wilson Combat and SIG SAUER are pleased to announce the availability of a Wilson Combat enhanced P320 9mm semi-automatic pistol collaboration, the WCP320.
Wilson Combat gunsmiths and engineers have completely reworked a SIG SAUER P320 chassis and unfinished SIG manufactured slide into our ideal version of a high performance perfected striker-fired pistol.
Using the all-new Wilson Combat SIG P320 grip module, our in-house re-machined slide and Wilson Combat performance battlesights, the Wilson Combat Optimized WCP320 will become the new standard in hard-use, striker fired handguns. Our modifications have tailored and tuned the 320 platform for precision tactical pistol shooting.
This robust, fast handling pistol wears our Wilson Combat engineered polymer grip module. This newly designed and manufactured grip has enhanced traction, smoother reloading, improved pointablity and superb recoil control in dynamic shooting. This grip turns an already solid platform into an ergonomic shooting machine.
The slide has been machined with the Wilson Combat X-TAC pattern for improved manipulation under stress. The front and rear cocking serrations, as well as the slide top, wear this signature Wilson Combat pattern. The stainless steel slide and chromoly barrel wear the most advanced black DLC (Diamond-Like-Carbon) physical vapor deposition finish avaiable. This finished has chromium and tungsten underlayers for long lasting corrosion and abrasion resistance.
The SIG SAUER flat-faced XFULL trigger is standard on the WCP320 and gives shooters a lower finger position on the trigger which increases leverage for a lighter, smoother trigger pull. The pull can be further enhanced by Wilson Combat gunsmiths with our optional action tune using Grayguns custom trigger parts.
About the SIG SAUER P320
The SIG SAUER P320 is a high-performance, strike-fired service pistol known for extreme reliability that beat all other tested handguns in the Government's 2017 Modular Handgun Competition. Learn more at www.sigsauer.com.
Wilson Combat gunsmiths and engineers have completely reworked a SIG SAUER P320 chassis and unfinished SIG manufactured slide into our ideal version of a high performance perfected striker-fired pistol.
Using the all-new Wilson Combat SIG P320 grip module, our in-house re-machined slide and Wilson Combat performance battlesights, the Wilson Combat Optimized WCP320 will become the new standard in hard-use, striker fired handguns. Our modifications have tailored and tuned the 320 platform for precision tactical pistol shooting.
This robust, fast handling pistol wears our Wilson Combat engineered polymer grip module. This newly designed and manufactured grip has enhanced traction, smoother reloading, improved pointablity and superb recoil control in dynamic shooting. This grip turns an already solid platform into an ergonomic shooting machine.
The slide has been machined with the Wilson Combat X-TAC pattern for improved manipulation under stress. The front and rear cocking serrations, as well as the slide top, wear this signature Wilson Combat pattern. The stainless steel slide and chromoly barrel wear the most advanced black DLC (Diamond-Like-Carbon) physical vapor deposition finish avaiable. This finished has chromium and tungsten underlayers for long lasting corrosion and abrasion resistance.
The SIG SAUER flat-faced XFULL trigger is standard on the WCP320 and gives shooters a lower finger position on the trigger which increases leverage for a lighter, smoother trigger pull. The pull can be further enhanced by Wilson Combat gunsmiths with our optional action tune using Grayguns custom trigger parts.
About the SIG SAUER P320
The SIG SAUER P320 is a high-performance, strike-fired service pistol known for extreme reliability that beat all other tested handguns in the Government's 2017 Modular Handgun Competition. Learn more at www.sigsauer.com.
SIG/Wilson Combat WCP320 Full-Size Specifications
- Available Calibers: 9mm
- Magazine Capicity: 17 Rounds
- Barrel Length: 4.7"
- Overall Length: 8.25"
- Sight Radius: 6.5"
- Height: 5.5"
- Width: 1.5"
- Weight Empty: 29.2oz
- Weight Loaded: 36.7oz
SPECIFICATIONS:
- Wilson Combat P320 Black Carry Module
- Wilson Combat X-TAC P320 Slide with Machine Bevels
- Black DLC Finish on Slide and Barrel
- X-TAC Pattern Front and Rear Cocking Serrations
- X-TAC Pattern on Slide Top
- Carry Cut
- Wilson Combat Logo on Slide
- Wilson Combat Battlesight with Red Fiber Optic Front Sight
- SIG Factory Magazine Release
- SIG Factory Slide Stop
- SIG P320 X-Full Size Steel Trigger
- 2 17rd X-Series Magazines
- 9mm Caliber Only
- Not CA Compliant
More Info
- Beveled Magazine Well
- Rail for Mounting Light or Laser
- Special Serial Number Range with WC Prefix
- IDPA Stock Service Pistol Approved
- USPSA Production and Carry Optic Division Approved
NOTE: All serialized items must be shipped to a Federal Firearms License (FFL) dealer. One of our customer satisfaction representatives will contact you to arrange shipment of your serialized item.
SIG SAUER Wilson Combat WCP320 Customer Service Policy
Since the WCP320 is a joint collaboration between Wilson Combat and SIG SAUER we have agreed to handle customer service for the following: Accuracy, reliability, sights, and slide/ grip defects. SIG SAUER will be the appropriate service location for any broken or defective SIG SAUER factory parts excluding the slide.
DISCLAIMER: "SIG" is a federally registered trademark of SIG SAUER Inc. and is one of many trademarks owned by SIG SAUER Inc.
Neither Wilson Combat nor this website is affiliated in any manner with or otherwise endorsed by SIG SAUER Inc. The use of "SIG" or "SIG SAUER" on this page is merely to advertise the sale of SIG pistols, parts, or components. For genuine SIG SAUER Inc. products and parts, visit www.sigsauer.com.
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