CRIME Arkansas teacher and church volunteer charged with sexually assaulting a 15-year-old she groomed at church

jward

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Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg

NEW: Arkansas teacher and church volunteer charged with s*xually assaulting a 15-year-old she groomed at church.

26-year-old Reagan Gray has been charged with felony assault of a teen.

The church was allegedly aware of the abuse and instead of calling the police, they assigned an “accountability partner” to Gray.

The accountability partner was the pastor’s wife. After the counseling sessions, Gray continued with the abuse.

Gray allegedly ‘only’ performed oral s*x on the boy because she wanted him to “stay pure.”

The accused pedoph*le was a teacher at Little Rock Christian Academy and was a member of student ministry at the church.

After the police finally got involved, Gray was a teacher at Sylvan Hills Middle School. She was then suspended.
View: https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1784723432950870340
 
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jward

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handling the issue in house instead of making it a criminal complaint from the get go reminds me of that situation the large family had with their oldest son who turned out to be an abuser : (
(Josh duggar. Google is my friend lol)

Conflicted here; very much believe in the value of pastoral counseling, and yet. . . perhaps it needs to be in conjunction with criminal system and not in lieu of? :: shrug ::
 

Grumphau

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handling the issue in house instead of making it a criminal complaint from the get go reminds me of that situation the large family had with their oldest son who turned out to be an abuser : (
(Josh duggar. Google is my friend lol)

Conflicted here; very much believe in the value of pastoral counseling, and yet. . . perhaps it needs to be in conjunction with criminal system and not in lieu of? :: shrug ::
Pastoral counseling is good but this is an incorrect application and an overstep in authority on the part of the church. How does the Bible direct the church to apply justice in a situation like this? They were thinking of the issue as a "sin" which requires grace and not a "crime". So instead of actually dealing with the situation they just shielded a perpetrator from consequences and made the situation worse.
 

coalcracker

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No excuse.

God is just. The current culture in many seeker-friendly American churches has perverted the idea of grace. Pedophiles can still repent and be forgiven in jail. You cannot give them continued access (as authority figures) to children. Have these church people been living under a rock?
 

colonel holman

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How does a church have any authority to NOT turn over a felony rape to police?
Have wondered the same for universities to “handle” such crimes themselves in-house. I see that as a crime itself, making believe they have authority to bypass the legal-criminal system. Clearly obstruction and cover-up to keep themselves appearing innocent and to assume powers they do not have.
 

RB Martin

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Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg

NEW: Arkansas teacher and church volunteer charged with s*xually assaulting a 15-year-old she groomed at church.

26-year-old Reagan Gray has been charged with felony assault of a teen.

The church was allegedly aware of the abuse and instead of calling the police, they assigned an “accountability partner” to Gray.

The accountability partner was the pastor’s wife. After the counseling sessions, Gray continued with the abuse.

Gray allegedly ‘only’ performed oral s*x on the boy because she wanted him to “stay pure.”

The accused pedoph*le was a teacher at Little Rock Christian Academy and was a member of student ministry at the church.

After the police finally got involved, Gray was a teacher at Sylvan Hills Middle School. She was then suspended.
View: https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1784723432950870340
Why would someone downvote this posting? Are you not in favor of exposing and prosecuting pedophiles? I understand the anger response, deserved in this case, but the anger is directed at the perpetrator. The downvote is directed towards the poster. Isn't this correct?
 

Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior
there needs to be a few more church members charged - especially those dumbazz elders that think some chaperone is the solution to this criminal activity ....

you put them in orange and rope them together to work roadside trash >>> won't be anymore dumbazz left in them after a few thousand horn beeps .....
 

Doc1

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How does a church have any authority to NOT turn over a felony rape to police?
Have wondered the same for universities to “handle” such crimes themselves in-house. I see that as a crime itself, making believe they have authority to bypass the legal-criminal system. Clearly obstruction and cover-up to keep themselves appearing innocent and to assume powers they do not have.

This is something the Catholic Church has done for centuries and while I don't mean to suggest that Catholics are more sexually licentious than Protestants (or any other religion). the Roman Church has more of an authoritarian structure. It also has many more domestic and international facilities which allow "problem" priests to be quietly shipped away to an out of state seminary or other facility. Out of sight, out of mind.

You are absolutely correct that no church should attempt to shield a member - and especially a member in a position of power - from the secular authorities when they've committed a felony (and especially an example of sexual child abuse).

Best
Doc
 

desertvet2

Veteran Member
Not sure what is wrong with some of these young women. Yes they are sick.
But dang, some of them are quite attractive.
Can they not find men their own age to fawn over?

I suppose that they are just lacking something mentally and emotionally to do so.

I also wonder if they are crotch gazing and can't resist the urge to ...
 

CaryC

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Why would someone downvote this posting? Are you not in favor of exposing and prosecuting pedophiles? I understand the anger response, deserved in this case, but the anger is directed at the perpetrator. The downvote is directed towards the poster. Isn't this correct?
Not necessarily. My downvote is always towards the article. Like I downvoted what the church did. It was wrong on so many levels.
 

Hfcomms

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Nothing new under the sun but I do notice that back when we were teens there was relatively little (reported/exposed) sexual abuse of children and teens and 99% of the time a male was the abuser. You might not of been comfortable having an adult male being with your kids unaccompanied but you thought nothing of entrusting your kids with another neighborhood mom. Today you really can’t trust another adult having unsupervised time with even your teenage kids.

Back when I was in the institutional church system involved in children’s ministry we already had a rule that none of our adult or teenage males were to be alone with somebody else’s kids. There were always at least two adults with kids at all times. But, the same rule was not in place for adult females in the nurseries or primary aged classrooms. It never really entered our minds 30 years ago that this could be a problem.

Two things, #1 I wouldn’t want to be a kid today growing up in this mess and #2 I wouldn’t want to be their parents under the stress that you really can’t trust teachers with your kids even in a church setting. We seem to be rapidly devolving and casting off all moral restraint. Frankly, just makes me want to go deeper into the piney woods than I already am.
 

anney

Veteran Member
Surprising as Little Rock Christian Academy is supposed to have an excellent reputation. Guess not anymore.

The church was allegedly aware of the abuse and instead of calling the police, they assigned an “accountability partner” to Gray. The accountability partner was the pastor’s wife.

After the counseling sessions, Gray continued with the abuse.
Evidently it the counseling sessions didn't work, now did they?

How awful for the victims of her abuse. What does that also say to all the other kids who may have been abused by her or even someone else. They know that the adults will not keep them safe nor stand up for what is right.

Don't get me wrong, I believe in the Lord's grace and forgiveness. But I also believe that we should all reap the consequences of our actions.

Anyone abused will carry that trauma for the rest of their lives.

So should the predator.

We had a case here in our town several years ago. It involved the youth pastor of the top church. He was taking the boys in the youth group and measuring their penis'.

He was arrested, convicted and spent time in prison. When he was released, the church hired him back. Of course not as a youth pastor but he was on staff in some capacity, not just an attending member.

I remember an interview by James Dobson of Ted Bundy before he was executed in Florida. Ted Bundy had professed to become a Christian. James Dobson asked Ted Bundy how he got started on the path of raping and killing women.

Bundy stated that it began with looking at Playboy magazines. That eventually morphed into hard core porn and then the fantasies became even more in his mind until he acted them out.

Bundy also said that no matter how much counseling or therapy it will not cure any person of sexual deviant behavior as it is in the mind and will always be there.

In America we, the adults in the room, are not protecting our children. We are not strong enough anymore when these situations are exposed.

The administrators, the board, the elders, the whoevers of Little Rock Christian Academy along with their church leaders have failed every single child at that school and church.

Because a strong policy has not been shown nor implemented, this will allow any other predator to know, hey...it's ok...she got away with it so can I after the dust settles.
 

CaryC

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There are churches/ministries/secular org. that just carry a name. Old timers would say a curse. In that the same situation/things keep happening over and over.

A church down the road has a rep. for fornication and adultery with the pastor. Different pastors, and different members. Over and over. The people in the church vote for pastors with the same bent, it is odd.

A church up the road is focused on teens, they have their own church building, and sermons, music, and times, and dare I say, parties. The person who started that, was the youth minister, who is now in jail, for pedophilia. And was sanctioned by the pastor who was caught with kiddie porn on his church office computer.

New pastor, youth minister. BUT those teen ministries are still on going. Do you think I have any confidence in the leaders to be pure?

And the pics coming out of those parties, on facebook etc. should be considered a porn site.

But hey it's church, what could go wrong?
 

coalcracker

Veteran Member
There are churches/ministries/secular org. that just carry a name. Old timers would say a curse. In that the same situation/things keep happening over and over.

A church down the road has a rep. for fornication and adultery with the pastor. Different pastors, and different members. Over and over. The people in the church vote for pastors with the same bent, it is odd.

A church up the road is focused on teens, they have their own church building, and sermons, music, and times, and dare I say, parties. The person who started that, was the youth minister, who is now in jail, for pedophilia. And was sanctioned by the pastor who was caught with kiddie porn on his church office computer.

New pastor, youth minister. BUT those teen ministries are still on going. Do you think I have any confidence in the leaders to be pure?

And the pics coming out of those parties, on facebook etc. should be considered a porn site.

But hey it's church, what could go wrong?
A little something I know you are aware of:

Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a person sows, this he will also reap. For the one who sows to his own flesh will reap destruction from the flesh, but the one who sows to the Spirit will reap eternal life from the Spirit.

—————-

Faith without works is (literally) dead.
 

SmithJ

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I thought the downvote was about the article. As in if someone posts something sad or terrible you would do thumbs down to show that yes you thought it was bad also? Like someone says somebody is doing something wrong and everybody goes "boo...."

Or you use the angry face - and that signifies you are angry about whatever was posted. Not at the poster.
 

RB Martin

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Here's a link on the downvote. Looks like it was voted on. Looks like it's not directed at the poster! Phew!

 

Walrus

Veteran Member
The downvote is directed towards the poster. Isn't this correct?
As the recipient of pretty much universal downvotes on the Ukraine war thread, I can tell you that to me it's more a badge of honor. Nothing personal to it.

As CaryC and Ractivist replied, downvotes are not directed to the poster (or shouldn't be). They're directed for the content.
 

Deeb

Contributing Member
Surprising as Little Rock Christian Academy is supposed to have an excellent reputation. Guess not anymore.

She worked at Little Rock Christian Academy while she was abusing a boy at her church and the boy may not have been a student at the school. The way the church handled it, it's possible LRCA didn't know.
 

TidesofTruth

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Somebody else is going to jail

What Is Child Maltreatment?​

Put simply, child maltreatment is a big word for child abuse or neglect. Abuse and neglect can be several things, including physical abuse, sexual abuse, neglect, sexual exploitation or abandonment by the caretaker of the child (a parent, guardian, custodian, or foster parent).

Child maltreatment occurs when the caretaker harms the child or lets harm come to the child, or when the caretaker fails to meet the child’s basic needs.

Note: Sexual abuse and exploitation are child maltreatment under Arkansas law whether by a caretaker or by someone else.

Who Reports Child Maltreatment?​

Anyone who suspects child maltreatment may report their concerns. If you see something that concerns you or just doesn’t look right, we encourage you to say something! Some people, such as doctors, teachers, clergy, and school counselors, must report suspected child maltreatment (it’s the law!). They are called mandated reporters.

If you need to report child maltreatment, it’s easy. Just call the Arkansas Child Abuse Hotline at 1-800-482-5964 or visit mandatedreporter.arkansas.gov.

You’ll need to be as specific as possible about what your concerns are – the more information we have, the better we are able to respond. If possible, have the child’s name, address, alleged offender’s name and address, and details about the maltreatment.
 

Firebird

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Where were these hot teachers when I was 15?
I may be completely wrong, but at 15, the average male probably would not have put up a fight. Most teenage boys would have been happy to tap that.

Is the woman wrong? Definitely!
Should she answer for what she did? Definitely!

Would be interesting to know what the boy looked like, not to justify what was done, but to see if he was a frail little guy, who was shy and easily manipulated, or was he pretty much a full grown man and did some manipulation on his own.
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
Would be interesting to know more facts behind the event.

As to the down thumb, I've always figured most folks here know exactly why it was posted, like reverse sarcasm, it's pretty darned clear.
 

TidesofTruth

Veteran Member
I may be completely wrong, but at 15, the average male probably would not have put up a fight. Most teenage boys would have been happy to tap that.

Is the woman wrong? Definitely!
Should she answer for what she did? Definitely!

Would be interesting to know what the boy looked like, not to justify what was done, but to see if he was a frail little guy, who was shy and easily manipulated, or was he pretty much a full grown man and did some manipulation on his own.
If I were his parent, and having put him in a christian school it was obvious they were trying to raise him in the fear and admonition of the Lord, I WOULD BE INSANELY FURIOUS! I mean to the point where I would have to do everything in my power not to take her out. How dare she pervert this kid. Boys have a tough enough time in this God forsaken world to ever have a chance to keep their morality in check. The damage that she has done to this boy and his future relationships is immeasurable. This kid will struggle all his life. We all laugh and try to act like this is all fine and dandy but this is soul crushing. We just won't see how much until later. Addictions, chasing that endorphin rush he should have never experienced at 15. There is real danger here for his future. After all the time and effort I put into each of my 3 sons by the time they were 15 so they would hopefully be pure at the Altar, which they were and then to have some slut come and ruin them. There would be hell to pay. A lot of time you don't understand until they have families of their own and then they have children of their own what damage there is. There is heritage and family and posterity and salvation and eternity and it is all so easily lost.

You think perverts and pedos just happen that way? Most of the time somebody got to them young.
 

patriotgal

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Not surprised at all. Know of a so called Christian academy where the staff has kept plenty of secrets including the identity of adult pedos and teenage students molesting elementary students.
 

JMG91

Veteran Member
Not sure what is wrong with some of these young women. Yes they are sick.
But dang, some of them are quite attractive.
Can they not find men their own age to fawn over?

I suppose that they are just lacking something mentally and emotionally to do so.

I also wonder if they are crotch gazing and can't resist the urge to ...
When it comes to younger women, I think it boils down to vanity. It makes them feel good about themselves knowing that these younger, virile young men find them attractive.
 

bev

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I vaguely remember having to take a class before being able to work with kids in our church, maybe 20 years ago. It was geared toward child abuse rather than church doctrine. IIRC, it was required for all of the A/G churches.
 
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