HEALTH Anyone healed Celiac disease or made it better using Natural means?

Johnny Twoguns

Senior Member
Not looking for all the normal doctor type methods, pills forever. Looking more for any suggestions from those who have/are suffering for it and what helped or HEALED it; not accepting the doc's methods forever.

Asking for a young friend.

Thanks.
 

Digger

Veteran Member
I have a friend with this. She and her husband went to the Holy Lands and she found she could eat the wonderful breads in Europe without any problems. It is possible that it is the chemical used to dry the grain before harvest in the United States that is the problem. There was something different about their bread. She cannot eat gluten here without a lot of issues.

I would suggest they research if there is a connection between Celiac disease and gut health. Improving gut health is very important to our overall health.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Yeah, an awful lot of people who think (or are even diagnosed, usually by a non specialist) they are "gluten intolerant" actually are reacting to the glyphosate (Roundup) residue in the wheat or other grains.

The first thing to try is using *only* organic forms of flour, pasta, etc.

For many, that solves the problem. But if you have true celiac disease, it actually causes an immune reaction to gluten, and it can cause permanent damage to the intestine.

Licorice root powder (not the deglyccerizinated type, but whole root powder) can really soothe the inflammation of the gut lining, and help with healing. But for true celiac sufferers, the only way to keep the inflammation from coming back and preventing damage and scarring is avoiding all forms of gluten.

Summerthyme
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Avoiding gluten completely is the only known way of avoiding it; assuming it actually is Celiac disease.

I know some folks that have the "American Wheat products Bad, European Wheat Products OK" syndrome. That kind of indicates to me that it's not Celiac disease, but something has infiltrated our food supply... Just a guess.
 

kyrsyan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
All I know is to avoid gluten. We've been doing it for my son for almost two decades now. It's a lot easier nowadays than it was.

It is hard at first. But once you adapt, It's not that hard. Son has multiple food issues so GF is just a start for him. But there is an amazing amount available for those who need just GF. And it tastes good.

Reality is, they are going to have to learn to adjust their tastes. Nothing is going to taste like wheat but if they can adjust that expectation they'll be fine. One of the reason I could adapt to keto so fast was because I was already used to the alternate flours.
 

stormie

Veteran Member
Avoiding gluten completely is the only known way of avoiding it; assuming it actually is Celiac disease.

I know some folks that have the "American Wheat products Bad, European Wheat Products OK" syndrome. That kind of indicates to me that it's not Celiac disease, but something has infiltrated our food supply... Just a guess.
I don't want to cause a thread drift, and this isn't celiac related, but I've gone gluten free and have essentially "cured" my arthritic knees. The pain and stiffness is mostly gone. I still feel a bit stiff when I first get up in the morning. It's been a drastic improvement! I went gluten free because of the inflammation affect gluten causes. I agree that American wheat products have been contaminated and genetically modified to such a degree as to cause a plethora of damages to our bodies.
 

TxGal

Day by day
Most of my female immediate family members and extended family have gone gluten free in the last few years. It does make a huge difference, for us anyhow, with gut health. Most of us had our gall bladders out within the past 15 yrs or so, and that seems to be what started our gut issues. Our Gastro Dr has said that this is not unusual. GF has helped immensely.

It's been over a year for me, and even though I wasn't overweight to begin with, just by going gluten-free I dropped a good 20lbs pretty darn quickly...we're guessing most 'regular' products have a lot of sugars in them. I have far more energy (at nearly 70), knock wood I take no prescription meds, and I'm very active with ranch/livestock chores. I've also learned what foods have hidden tyramines (migraine trigger for me), and I have to be careful of histamine foods. The GF transition has opened up a huge dialog on dietary health. It is a good thing.

None of us have Celiac disease, this seems to have become a gluten intolerance for us all. I can tell you that when I have a 'regular' product with gluten, I pay pretty dearly with bloating and discomfort. I had a 'regular' breaded fish fillet for dinner, and I'm pretty darn uncomfortable now. That's the last one I'll have going forward.

We've also known many people who have traveled overseas who have either celiac disease or gluten intolerance, and all of them were able to eat regular bread products without difficulty there. The theory does seem to be that they don't use the glycophosphate products there and that's leading many to believe that is the cause of this issue. I have no idea.

What I do know is that we all feel better eating gluten-free products. And, we all feel terrible when we slip and have non-GF products. That pretty much seals the deal for us.

It IS an adjustment. The GF products taste a bit different, generally are not as sweet, and there is not as much variety available. We've had great luck with Katz gluten-free (all frozen, online ordering, some is available in stores), and Vitacost online.
 

bluelady

Veteran Member
True celiac disease can't be cured, and there are no pills for it that do anything but mitigate symptoms. The *only* effective treatment is avoidance of *all* gluten, even from cross-contamination (which doesn't cure; symptoms/damage will recur if gluten is reintroduced). It can cause severe damage to the intestines, several types of cancer, and eventually possibly even death, if gluten is not avoided.

There are some tests that screen for it, but a biopsy is the only way to know for sure. Also, recently, the absence of certain genes is a pretty good indicator.

Anyone who believes they are cured because they are symptomless is 1) on a completely compliant diet, 2) still having "silent" damage and risk, or 3) actually sensitive, intolerant, or allergic.

My mother was a true celiac (diagnosed well before glyphosate was used, and well before the only vaccine she ever had..a pneumonia vax that almost killed her); I'm not, but gluten (and most grains) cause digestive issues and inflammation.

And yes, grains definitely aren't what they used to be, especially in certain areas. I don't know whether that's been a factor in causing celiac disease, I'm sure it must be a factor in the rise of sensitivity/intolerance. But once you have true celiac disease there is no going back. "Doing better" on Eurpean grains or other alternative forms of gluten does *not* rule out true celiac disease, or cure it.

celiac.com is a good place to begin research.
 
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Babs

Veteran Member
Licorice root powder (not the deglyccerizinated type, but whole root powder) can really soothe the inflammation of the gut lining, and help with healing. But for true celiac sufferers, the only way to keep the inflammation from coming back and preventing damage and scarring is avoiding all forms of gluten.

Slippery Elm also, and it doesn't raise the blood pressure like licorice root can.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Interesting info, thanks,

so, no one has improved their condition by working on rebuilding the gut, combined with something like serious fasting?

we all have been poisoned that is for sure, thanks rockerfellers and your cousins,
I have, and since you’re a psychic you should be able to figure out how I did so. :groucho:
 

Hermantribe

Veteran Member
I have a friend with this. She and her husband went to the Holy Lands and she found she could eat the wonderful breads in Europe without any problems. It is possible that it is the chemical used to dry the grain before harvest in the United States that is the problem. There was something different about their bread. She cannot eat gluten here without a lot of issues.

I would suggest they research if there is a connection between Celiac disease and gut health. Improving gut health is very important to our overall health.
Eating bread made with “Einkorn” wheat may help. It’s the original, non-GMO wheat. Maybe your friend can research it and see if it might help. I know the ”Frankenstein” modern varieties with gluten are the problem for my son-in-law.
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I suspect a lot of modern new disorders are actually glycophosphate sensitivities.

The other issue with Celiac is that in the 90s they switched over to a quick cook method for pasta making. Before they would let the pasta sit overnight which killed off the glutens we were sensitive too and replaced them through enzyme action to a gluten form that did not give as many issues.

Roundup ready crops appeared on market in 1996. That is when a lot of the gluten and celiac stuff started. I have to wonder if roundup will become the next DDT debacle.

And in many cases folks with the disorder go to Europe where our practices are banned outright and their health issues disappear.

The other speculation on the causation are all the now required vaccinations they require throughout childhood.

Or is it a combination triple whammy or something.

The key is our food has changed. I think the other stuff factors into it. And the one thing that infuriates me the most is the fact that all the HEALTHY and KETO stuff is nasty when you look at the prepackaged stuff and you have to pay attention to countries of origin and packaging as other countries have different labeling requirements than we do here. (Dr. Atkins discovered that issue when he was trialing some of his products with patients.)

Then we have to look at the source of China as our provider of many packaged foods and the fraud cases they ahve going on with counterfit foods. And I also have to wonder are they poisoning us and causing the problem. (around 4 billion in imports last year) and what we don't know is how many countries are hiding foods and ingredients sourced from China.

Then let us throw in the fact that China is producing most of our drug based ingredients. Like almost all of them. IS there something hiding there that is contributing to this.

Is this why the elimination diets work so well, we are cutting out the causes of our poisoning?

I found out I have to stay away from Wheat and nightshades(and I love taters and peppers!) Something about an enzyme piece I can't process properly, but the problem only occurs in the states, when I go to Guatemala, the issue seems to disappear so I have to wonder if it is the GMO food that we are consuming now causing most all our issues, of which glycophosphate resistant plants are sourced from.
 

bluelady

Veteran Member
Interesting info, thanks,

so, no one has improved their condition by working on rebuilding the gut, combined with something like serious fasting?

we all have been poisoned that is for sure, thanks rockerfellers and your cousins,
So, are you asking about true celiac disease, or some kind of gluten sensitivity?

Working on healing my gut by (so far only mostly) avoiding many foods including gluten and grains, adding in good fats & meats, along with intermittent fasting, has already greatly improved my various health conditions. But have gluten sensitivity, not celiac disease.

Actual celiac disease is an autoimmune disease that destroys the gut...the villi, the mucosal lining of the small intestine, that cannot be rebuilt by any other means than completely avoiding gluten. Even minute amounts of gluten trigger an autoimmune response. So while healthy eating, fasting, probiotics, etc. might alleviate celiac symptoms, that actually masks the progressive gut destruction that is going on inside.
 

Johnny Twoguns

Senior Member
Gluten free, probiotics, avoid the usual culprit foods, lose weight, shop the outside edges of the grocery store.
He's already gluten free, has had a huge battery of tests done, and they gave him 'pills' but I didn't inquire as to what.

So no one has actually cured themselves with fasting, probiotics, pre-biotics, veggies, good meat?

They have told him it is genetic since his mother also has it. Next time I see him I'll ask if he and his mother have ALWAYS had it. It not, then I doubt if it is genetic in a pure sense, but rather brought on or exacerbated by things like glyphosate and all the other poisons.

Also drinks city liquid, I think they filter it, but still. I'm a strong believer in fasting and cleanses, killing germs and parasites, and other things.

Any other hints, I appreciate it,

Thanks!
I suspect a lot of modern new disorders are actually glycophosphate sensitivities.

The other issue with Celiac is that in the 90s they switched over to a quick cook method for pasta making. Before they would let the pasta sit overnight which killed off the glutens we were sensitive too and replaced them through enzyme action to a gluten form that did not give as many issues.

Roundup ready crops appeared on market in 1996. That is when a lot of the gluten and celiac stuff started. I have to wonder if roundup will become the next DDT debacle.

And in many cases folks with the disorder go to Europe where our practices are banned outright and their health issues disappear.

The other speculation on the causation are all the now required vaccinations they require throughout childhood.

Or is it a combination triple whammy or something.

The key is our food has changed. I think the other stuff factors into it. And the one thing that infuriates me the most is the fact that all the HEALTHY and KETO stuff is nasty when you look at the prepackaged stuff and you have to pay attention to countries of origin and packaging as other countries have different labeling requirements than we do here. (Dr. Atkins discovered that issue when he was trialing some of his products with patients.)

Then we have to look at the source of China as our provider of many packaged foods and the fraud cases they ahve going on with counterfit foods. And I also have to wonder are they poisoning us and causing the problem. (around 4 billion in imports last year) and what we don't know is how many countries are hiding foods and ingredients sourced from China.

Then let us throw in the fact that China is producing most of our drug based ingredients. Like almost all of them. IS there something hiding there that is contributing to this.

Is this why the elimination diets work so well, we are cutting out the causes of our poisoning?

I found out I have to stay away from Wheat and nightshades(and I love taters and peppers!) Something about an enzyme piece I can't process properly, but the problem only occurs in the states, when I go to Guatemala, the issue seems to disappear so I have to wonder if it is the GMO food that we are consuming now causing most all our issues, of which glycophosphate resistant plants are sourced from.
Yeppers. They were making sour dough bread every day, but they gave up on that. The organic flour sounds interesting I'll suggest it, or if they want to bother trying to source Euro flours. Euro pasta's would be easy enough to get.

I wouldn't eat any shit from China. They've poisoned our dogs, and sold us shit drywall. Really pushing for their revenge for Korea.
 

Johnny Twoguns

Senior Member
Eating bread made with “Einkorn” wheat may help. It’s the original, non-GMO wheat. Maybe your friend can research it and see if it might help. I know the ”Frankenstein” modern varieties with gluten are the problem for my son-in-law.
I'll suggest that. I've heard of that wheat. Spelt might also qualify.
 

Johnny Twoguns

Senior Member
Most of my female immediate family members and extended family have gone gluten free in the last few years. It does make a huge difference, for us anyhow, with gut health. Most of us had our gall bladders out within the past 15 yrs or so, and that seems to be what started our gut issues. Our Gastro Dr has said that this is not unusual. GF has helped immensely.

It's been over a year for me, and even though I wasn't overweight to begin with, just by going gluten-free I dropped a good 20lbs pretty darn quickly...we're guessing most 'regular' products have a lot of sugars in them. I have far more energy (at nearly 70), knock wood I take no prescription meds, and I'm very active with ranch/livestock chores. I've also learned what foods have hidden tyramines (migraine trigger for me), and I have to be careful of histamine foods. The GF transition has opened up a huge dialog on dietary health. It is a good thing.

None of us have Celiac disease, this seems to have become a gluten intolerance for us all. I can tell you that when I have a 'regular' product with gluten, I pay pretty dearly with bloating and discomfort. I had a 'regular' breaded fish fillet for dinner, and I'm pretty darn uncomfortable now. That's the last one I'll have going forward.

We've also known many people who have traveled overseas who have either celiac disease or gluten intolerance, and all of them were able to eat regular bread products without difficulty there. The theory does seem to be that they don't use the glycophosphate products there and that's leading many to believe that is the cause of this issue. I have no idea.

What I do know is that we all feel better eating gluten-free products. And, we all feel terrible when we slip and have non-GF products. That pretty much seals the deal for us.

It IS an adjustment. The GF products taste a bit different, generally are not as sweet, and there is not as much variety available. We've had great luck with Katz gluten-free (all frozen, online ordering, some is available in stores), and Vitacost online.
Our grain products have been massively manipulated in the 30's and 40's to max out yields so we are not eating the stuff our ancestors ate. Thanks.
 

Johnny Twoguns

Senior Member
All I know is to avoid gluten. We've been doing it for my son for almost two decades now. It's a lot easier nowadays than it was.

It is hard at first. But once you adapt, It's not that hard. Son has multiple food issues so GF is just a start for him. But there is an amazing amount available for those who need just GF. And it tastes good.

Reality is, they are going to have to learn to adjust their tastes. Nothing is going to taste like wheat but if they can adjust that expectation they'll be fine. One of the reason I could adapt to keto so fast was because I was already used to the alternate flours.
Got any really good bread replacement recipes? Really good? lol.
They are not too keen on almond flour, too dense. So any really good recipes would be appreciated (even almond flour!). I told him about a bread recipe out of flaxseed that raised really good, and frankly it was delicious.
 

bluelady

Veteran Member
He's already gluten free, has had a huge battery of tests done, and they gave him 'pills' but I didn't inquire as to what.

So no one has actually cured themselves with fasting, probiotics, pre-biotics, veggies, good meat?

They have told him it is genetic since his mother also has it. Next time I see him I'll ask if he and his mother have ALWAYS had it. It not, then I doubt if it is genetic in a pure sense, but rather brought on or exacerbated by things like glyphosate and all the other poisons.

Also drinks city liquid, I think they filter it, but still. I'm a strong believer in fasting and cleanses, killing germs and parasites, and other things.

Any other hints, I appreciate it,

Thanks!

Yeppers. They were making sour dough bread every day, but they gave up on that. The organic flour sounds interesting I'll suggest it, or if they want to bother trying to source Euro flours. Euro pasta's would be easy enough to get.

I wouldn't eat any shit from China. They've poisoned our dogs, and sold us shit drywall. Really pushing for their revenge for Korea.
Celiac disease is absolutely genetic. It may not, in fact usually doesn't, express until later in life when the damage becomes worse. The state of our food including glyphosate has no doubt has exacerbated that expression and caused it to come earlier in life and be more pronounced.

My mom was diagnosed around 40, but chose to only medicate the symptoms. By the time they got too bad to ignore she was never able to eliminate them even after going *completely* gluten free. *Completely* meaning things like having her own mayo and jelly jars so someone else's knife that had touched bread didn't touch something she would eat.

Whether or not you believe in it, this is a life-long serious condition.

 

bluelady

Veteran Member
Eating bread made with “Einkorn” wheat may help. It’s the original, non-GMO wheat. Maybe your friend can research it and see if it might help. I know the ”Frankenstein” modern varieties with gluten are the problem for my son-in-law.
Frankenfoods are awful, but *all* wheat (including Einkorn), barley, and rye, as well as a lot of oats due to cross-contamination, no matter the form or source, have gluten to some degree. *Any* amount is poison to someone with celiac disease.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
I don't know about Celiac disease but i stopped "collogenous colitis" ( almost constant diarreah after 10 years of suffering ) by taking supplemental ( OX) BILE WITH MEALS!
I had my gall bladder out and it started!
No doctor told me to take it and that was major
Malpractice in my book. I didn't know what to do!
I was reduced to wearing diapers and NOT GOING OUT ANYWHERE, for fear of crapping my pants in public, before I discovered OX BILE!
(I TAKE SWANSON'S IT IS VERY CHEAP!)
Now I don't have that problem.
And, I can EAT ANYTHING.
 
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Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Celiac disease is absolutely genetic. It may not, in fact usually doesn't, express until later in life when the damage becomes worse. The state of our food including glyphosate has no doubt has exacerbated that expression and caused it to come earlier in life and be more pronounced.

My mom was diagnosed around 40, but chose to only medicate the symptoms. By the time they got too bad to ignore she was never able to eliminate them even after going *completely* gluten free. *Completely* meaning things like having her own mayo and jelly jars so someone else's knife that had touched bread didn't touch something she would eat.

Whether or not you believe in it, this is a life-long serious condition.

Genes are one part. But I have to wonder if it is genes or a family that never got the bacteria established in times passed and the deficiency was passed from one generation to the next or rather not as it was not there. We have a lot of bacteria in our bodies and at some point they form symbiotic relationships with our bodies so I have to wonder what happens if some lineages were not at certain locations when certain introductions occurred.

Another part is the gut colonies of the mother and what is transferred to the child. Not a whole lot is understood on the millions of bacteria out there, we only look at a few thousand from a diagnostic perspective, even Prion disoders/diseases are a recent thing being recognized.

That is why fecal transplants are becoming a growing trend. Between antibiotics destroying things to poor diets causing an improper blend in our gut, a lot is slowly coming out about the growing body of evidence being pushed out about fecal transplants


The pill mentioned prior may have been a pill form of a fecal transplant. Unfortunately it is more effective when implanted directly via GI procedures. Some results have been positive in the treatment of autism in children.
 

bluelady

Veteran Member
Genes are one part. But I have to wonder if it is genes or a family that never got the bacteria established in times passed and the deficiency was passed from one generation to the next or rather not as it was not there. We have a lot of bacteria in our bodies and at some point they form symbiotic relationships with our bodies so I have to wonder what happens if some lineages were not at certain locations when certain introductions occurred.

Another part is the gut colonies of the mother and what is transferred to the child. Not a whole lot is understood on the millions of bacteria out there, we only look at a few thousand from a diagnostic perspective, even Prion disoders/diseases are a recent thing being recognized.

That is why fecal transplants are becoming a growing trend. Between antibiotics destroying things to poor diets causing an improper blend in our gut, a lot is slowly coming out about the growing body of evidence being pushed out about fecal transplants


The pill mentioned prior may have been a pill form of a fecal transplant. Unfortunately it is more effective when implanted directly via GI procedures. Some results have been positive in the treatment of autism in children.
Interesting theory. Healing in the one patient could also have come from avoiding gluten; have any studies been done since this article?
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Interesting theory. Healing in the one patient could also have come from avoiding gluten; have any studies been done since this article?
Looks like it.


Getting access to scholarly articles can be a little fun...
 

Johnny Twoguns

Senior Member
Interesting theory. Healing in the one patient could also have come from avoiding gluten; have any studies been done since this article?
The great problem is you simply cannot trust most studies, no more than you can trust the CDC, the NIH, nor the WHO, or the AMA. The people who get published are in the club. Those who are not in the club, don't. Nothing proves that globally better than the censorship over Covid, and the JAB.

Royal R Rife was censored, then crushed, then killed when he refused to make a deal with the original founder of the AMA, who's name I'm not remembering now after reading every book I could find on RRR in the 90's. RRR was the first to invent a 'dark field' super microscope ( try to find a pic of it, OMG) and his pleomorphic nature of 'germs' was and is fascinating. According to his studies 'things' turned into other 'things' depending on what they ate/survived on. Bacteria could become virii, fungus could become bacteria, etc. Fascinating.

So, not disputing, nor arguing with anyone nor their views. Just color me skeptic for quite a bit of the medical field. Especially when it comes to claims about genetics. Close to everyone except those like Eskimos have been eating grains for umteen thousands of years. Ditto for dairy. I know, genetics can adapt and change. But mankind would not have survived millions of years more or less if we were all as fragile as Herr Doktor's try to convince us we are.

I have my own views on self healing, but my young friend hasn't lived long enough to count on himself and Mother Nature, though he is pretty special with a lot of life experience for one half my age,

so for his sake please keep the info coming, and thank you all.
 
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Johnny Twoguns

Senior Member
Looks like it.


Getting access to scholarly articles can be a little fun...
That's a pretty shitty topic Joker, though I am familiar with it. Still stinky :lol: :lol: :lol: :applaud:
 

Johnny Twoguns

Senior Member
You might try researching Inulin-FOS prebiotic.
Got it mixed in w my protein shake and all kinds of other things mixed in too, lol. I think I already overwhelm my young buddy with all my suggestions on how to improve his health, lol. I just take a few scoops of this and a few scoops of that and toss it into the Costco protein shake container and shake it all around. Trying to take 30 supplement pills and tons of powders, herbs, amino's, mushrooms, etc etc etc is a real chore otherwise. :lol::kat::lol:
 

kyrsyan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Got any really good bread replacement recipes? Really good? lol.
They are not too keen on almond flour, too dense. So any really good recipes would be appreciated (even almond flour!). I told him about a bread recipe out of flaxseed that raised really good, and frankly it was delicious.
Bette Hagman and Carol Fenster were authors of good recipe books for gluten free. And neither used only one flour.

You could also try one of the one to one replacement flours in a normal bread recipe.

If you're asking about buying one, I have no clue. GF breads were very rare when we started this so I went straight to baking. Carol has a focacia recipe that makes an amazing pizza crust. Bette had something like six books. Not everything was to our taste but we rarely had a complete fail.
 

energy_wave

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Did you try this specifically for celiac? Or just a suggestion?
I'm eating only meat and protein these days and found some good videos on the health benefits. I have a cousin who is totally vegan wracked in crippling pain. She's had joint replacements all over. Carnivore cures all that. Here's a good video I just found. Celiac is included.

10 AUTOIMMUNE Conditions Benefit from CARNIVORE Diet (Research) 2024​


Rt 19:40

 

Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Frankenfoods are awful, but *all* wheat (including Einkorn), barley, and rye, as well as a lot of oats due to cross-contamination, no matter the form or source, have gluten to some degree. *Any* amount is poison to someone with celiac disease.
I've had to go gluten free because of sensitivities. Oats are something that I love, but really caused digestive issues. Even organic ones. I think glyphosate, which are high in Quaker Oats, caused damage before I went to organic oats. I doubt I'll ever be able to eat them again, which angers me. FQO!
 

energy_wave

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Research Jordan Peterson and his daughter Mikhaila on the carnivore diet. Complete transformation in health.
Maybe this is why the WEF is attacking cattle farming. They want us sick. Weak people don't fight.

Mikhaila Peterson Reports Back After 5 YEARS on Carnivore Diet (Results)​


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summerthyme

Administrator
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The first thing necessary is to find out whether he has true celiac disease, or "just" gluten sensitivity. (Or possibly, neither, and is actually reacting to glyphosate)

Stop trying to give him advice on supplements, etc, until he's certain what he's dealing with, because if he truly has celiac, *nothing* except complete avoidance of gluten will ever help. And in the meantime, you're losing credibility.

The following is from a PDF file...

There are two modern blood tests for celiac disease:
1) Tissue transglutaminase IgA antibody level (commonly referred to as "tTG")
2) Deamidated Gliadin Peptide IgA/IgG antibody level (commonly referred to
as DGP)
The most frequently used test is the tTG. It is accurate at detecting most people with
celiac disease on a gluten-containing diet.
1 However, a minority of patients with celiac
disease (~2%) do not produce any IgA antibodies. This is a condition called IgA
deficiency and is generally asymptomatic but may be associated with increased risk of
some infections. A person with celiac disease who has this condition will generally test
negative with the tTG test regardless of celiac status.
2, 3
This is why doctors often also test for serum total IgA. It’s also one of the reasons why
the DGP test was invented. DGP can detect people with celiac people with IgA
deficiency because it can test for two types of antibodies (IgA and IgG) in only one test.
The person must be on a gluten-containing diet, however, just as the tTG test requires.
There is also an IgG tTG test but it is less accurate than the IgG DGP test. Conversely,
IgA tTG is more accurate than IgA DGP.
The Endomysial Antibody test (EMA) is an earlier version of the tTG test. It is not as
widely available as tTG and is more expensive than tTG. For these reasons, it is
seldom used these days.
The anti-gliadin antibodies (anti-gliadin IgA or IgG) are older tests with the lowest
accuracy among all the celiac blood tests. Considering the wide availability of
newer/better tests, their use for diagnosis of celiac disease is highly discouraged.
If it turns out he's not actually celiac, then there are options. Natural anti-inflammatories such as licorice root, pre and probiotics, an elimination diet which removes ALL gluten containing foods, and then... very slowly... adds one at a time back in, noting symptoms (and, of course, using organic only)... they all can help.

It will require a complete diet change, but that requires more mental and psychological adjustment than anything. Rather than looking for a "good bread substitute", figure out how to live without bread. (And believe me, I love a slice of fresh homemade bread, but if I knew it was destroying my intestinal lining, and was feeling miserable every time I ate it, I'd learn to live without it in a hurry!

One thing I discovered more or less by accident... if you take shredded cheese (almost any hard cheese except mozzarella or parmesan) and place tablespoonfuls on a parchment paper lined cookie sheet, and bake them at 400 degrees until golden brown (usually about 15-18 minutes, depending on how large you made them, and how crisp you want them), they make a fantastic cracker substitute! If you put them closer together, they will spread into a single mass. Bake them a minute or two less, cut into appropriate sized squares while hot, using a pizza cutter, and they make a great sandwich wrap.

In the end, nothing tastes as good as good health feels!

Summerthyme
 
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