One would have to be at least 90 to have a clear recollection.
Still remember it vividly, can tell you who was there and where they were sitting in our living room out on the farm. And what my mother said.
Burned into the mind.
IMO if China wanted it they would just buy the island.If it were the Chinese who attacked, it would now be racist and forbidden to remember it.
We visited Oahu in 2008, and spent the day visiting the U.S.S. Arizona, Schofield, Wheeler, the U.S.S. Missouri, and the Punch Bowl. You are absolutely correct about the emotions and memories of visiting the Arizona. My dad's youngest brother was stationed at Pearl in December of '41, a 17 year old kid who ran away from home in Nebraska with his girlfriend, eloped, and joined the service. They had a small apartment above a bar in downtown Honolulu and he said when the Arizona went up it almost knocked them out of bed from the concussion. The memorial is one of the few places I have visited in my life that I had a hard time keeping my composure. Truly it is like entering a church, much the way it used to be at the Alamo.If you ever get to Oahu please don't skip the visit to Pearl Harbor and the memorial. I could tell you about the boat ride over and to get tickets, to leave bags in a secure place and not take them to the base. I could tell you much of the base still looks like the set of: "Tora Tora Tora!" because it does and is.
I can't tell you the emotions and memories that will well up when you step into the memorial.
An upperclassman at my Dad's high school was on the Arizona.We visited Oahu in 2008, and spent the day visiting the U.S.S. Arizona, Schofield, Wheeler, the U.S.S. Missouri, and the Punch Bowl. You are absolutely correct about the emotions and memories of visiting the Arizona.
My Mom always prayed that none of us kids would ever have to live through war. I pray that is true for the rest of my life and my grandchildren.
No President EVER loved the Navy like FDR. He would not have let them be a target had he known.The Attack on Pearl Harbor Was No Surprise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1niZil4lNjU Researchers about the December 7, 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor know that President Franklin Roosevelt had provoked this Japanese attack to justify America’s entry into World War II. Most Americans were against joining the war, but the attack on Pearl...theduran.com
View: https://youtu.be/1niZil4lNjU
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Researchers about the December 7, 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor know that President Franklin Roosevelt had provoked this Japanese attack to justify America’s entry into World War II. Most Americans were against joining the war, but the attack on Pearl Harbor provided the excuse needed to declare war. The best book on this topic is “Day of Deceit” by former World War II Navy officer Robert Stinnett. The topics he covers are controversial because most people refuse to accept that Roosevelt and top military leaders in Washington DC failed to inform the commanders in Hawaii that a Japanese fleet was coming to attack.
Same here except I was in 6th grade.The demographics are fading. If you were active duty age 20 at Pearl Harbor you would be 100. Age 18 would put you at 98, and that would mean very few who experienced WW2 are alive.
Remember is a different ball game, say 10 years old, 90 like Dennis said.
I both remember and experienced JFK'S murder in November of 1963, even though I was only 9 years old. I VIVIDLY remember being in 4th grade classroom and the announcement coming over the school wall speaker.
Dole died at 98 two days ago, and my Dad died 2 years ago at 98 too.
They will likely all be gone by 10 years, the end of the decade.
I experienced the whole cultural atmosphere of JFK'S death.
No President EVER loved the Navy like FDR. He would not have let them be a target had he known.
Would people like George Marshall, and many others, also be complicit? We got our asses kicked because they outsmarted us pure and simple.
That's a bit of a supposition.
Would he let them be attacked if he thought it would save the country?
BTW the war he thought would save the country was in the other direction.
That's a bit of a supposition.
Would he let them be attacked if he thought it would save the country?
Ref Troke’s post 56, it’s said that the American military is always fighting the previous war. His post confirms that.
In 1965 my all mens school graduating class of 523 young men were inducted into the Vietnam 'conflict'... we've never had a class reunion!<-----------------------------------------------------o----------------------------------------------------------------------->
I wonder what the class size would look like today. My cynical comment of the day.
GGK 8/17/35
FDR was a con>>>>he was warned repeatedly according to all I have ever read about it.No President EVER loved the Navy like FDR. He would not have let them be a target had he known.
FDR was a con>>>>he was warned repeatedly according to all I have ever read about it.
Pearl Harbor: Hawaii Was Surprised; FDR Was Not - The New American
Comprehensive research has shown not only that Washington knew in advance of the attack on Pearl Harbor, but that it deliberately withheld its foreknowledge from our commanders in Hawaii in the hope that the "surprise" attack would catapult the U.S. into World War II. By James Perloffthenewamerican.com
My DW claims I never got past the age of 19. I am not quite 90 but close enough that I can see it. I can remember the Brits chasing the Bismarck, and the bombing of the Panay. Was a while before I found out that it was a ship. With a name like that, who knew?Holy Smokes! Really?
I thought you were ‘an old guy like me…I’m almost 60!’
Well, I salute you too sir!
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Nickname(s) | "Dorie" |
Born | October 12, 1919 Waco, Texas, U.S. |
Died | November 24, 1943 (aged 24) USS Liscome Bay, off Makin Atoll, Gilbert and Ellice Islands |
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Years of service | 1939–1943 |
Rank | Cook Third Class |
Service number | 356-12-35 |
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Battles/wars | World War II |
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Troke, I've given you a lot of grief here from time to time about your postings, but admire what you have endured and what you have seen in your life. Thanks for sharing.My DW claims I never got past the age of 19. I am not quite 90 but close enough that I can see it. I can remember the Brits chasing the Bismarck, and the bombing of the Panay. Was a while before I found out that it was a ship. With a name like that, who knew?