CORP/BIZ All the cars are alike now

Mark D

Now running for Emperor.
There is a "Tribe" of contractors that float from manufacturer to manufacturer, working on the design of each "new" model. As a result, you tend to get a degree of cross-pollination.
 

Border Guns

Veteran Member
I figured they liked to copy each other hoping their sales would rise like the other guys. I need to get another car but don't want to look like all the other guys. Got to looking at the classics and am thinking I might get a '65 thru the '69 year Mustang.
The're a bit expensive but I think if I search good enough I might get a good deal some place. I was in love with those cars when I was in high school.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Well, at least my Murano is different. But it’s true that most of the CUVs are almost identical.

Now, that being said, let’s get to colors. About 95% of all cars on the road today are black, white, or gray, with a smattering of dull reds or blues.

Which is why my car is orange.
 

Walrus Whisperer

Hope in chains...
I drove a '68 el Camino for many years. Probably had 4 Different engines in it. I camped all over CO in it. I loved that car. Some jerk, crashed the back of it in the middle of the nite. It jacked up something in the engine. I had the car junkyard come get it. It was blue, paint very old so it was peeling off everywhere. I didn't care.
 

poppy

Veteran Member
Most of the similarities in small SUV's is a result of manufacturers trying to meet government mileage standards. That's also the reason for more and more plastic parts. It takes less fuel to propel a lighter car than a heavier one. Manufacturers use wind tunnel tests to design vehicle bodies that offer the least wind resistance for better gas mileage. As a natural result, they all look similar. Back in the 50's and 60's you could look at a car coming at you or from the side or rear from 200 feet away and tell the company that made it. Now you have to look at the little emblem on the hood or trunk.
 

Abert

Veteran Member
356-A Porsche with S-90 Engine (factory installed) - little something I brought back to the US from Germany.
Body finally rusted through - NE Road Salt - but the Engine was great - hit the Dump (when you could actually get stuff) - found a VW Bug - body was OK - dead Engine - took a bit of fitting but that Porsche Engine fit fine.
With the VW's gearing and some 100+HP - it sure was fun!!
 

bluelady

Veteran Member
Well, at least my Murano is different. But it’s true that most of the CUVs are almost identical.

Now, that being said, let’s get to colors. About 95% of all cars on the road today are black, white, or gray, with a smattering of dull reds or blues.

Which is why my car is orange.
Yep! A good friend just ordered a '23 Subaru Legacy. Her color choices were white, black, silver, and bluish gray. She chose the bluish gray (sounds like the "dull blue"!) because it was the closest thing to an actual color.

My car is an old electric blue Ford Explorer. One other in town. Dh's old Dakota truck is white...but peeling so much it's mostly grey & rust color...I call it pinto...one of a kind. We never seem to follow any crowd. :)
 
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Redleg

Veteran Member
May also have something to do with safety. The .gov mandates for crash testing.
If the design works, why change it? Cost savings don't you know.
 

RB Martin

Veteran Member
Here's you a Woke "Mustang"! I think they are ugly, especially this one. Entirely appropriate that it was sitting in the handicapped spot! In a hilarious twist of irony, as he backed out, the guy was blaring Aerosmith's "Back in the Saddle!":rolleyes:Elec Mustang IMG_5732[3613].jpg
 
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PghPanther

Has No Life - Lives on TB
For cars to be aero efficient (which is a priority nowadays) they will all end up having a basic wind tunnel shape..........just like airplanes of a certain grouping (commercial jet.......general prop aviation .....fighter planes etc).

Add the crash barrier safety requirements and you will get clones of sedans and SUVs as a result with just some different grills, trim and headlight arrangements with a badge or two of the mfg/model on them..........that's it.

Back in the days of 60s and early 70s there were no wind tunnel designs or safety bumper requirements so designers and engineers had more expression of what they determined worked.....hence the variation in body shape and styling......

I still think this example is one bad ass frame and body for cutting through the wind myself........and the 69' vette ain't bad either........
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PghPanther

Has No Life - Lives on TB
An electric mustang SUV???.................

.......hmm when I think of Mustang this comes to mind....

...ole Parnelli himself pushing the crap out of a Boss 302 Mustang in Trans Am racing back in the day.......
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and by pushing I mean beating the crap out of the car at speed .....(btw.....that car below was damaged at the start of the race in an accident...he fell one lap down and then drove possessed jumping curbs and power sliding all over the place to end up winning the race in a Bud Moore prepared Mustang that started as a showroom vehicle before stripping it down and rebuilding it into a race car..............now that's a Mustang as I remember them)

......."if you haven't been out of control you aren't trying hard enough" - Rufus Parnell "Parnelli" Jones
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AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Most of the new stuff i look at daily is either dark grey with a black interior, or black with a black interior. New cars are boring! in that respect. The DC beltway looks like a funeral procession at rush hour with all the same color cars.

That's why i got a bright yellow Vitara. complete with 'tonka' stickers on the sides-because it looks like an old timey tonka toy...........Won't lose it in a mall parking lot!
 

AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Here's you a Woke "Mustang"! I think they are ugly, especially this one. Entirely appropriate that it was sitting in the handicapped spot! In a hilarious twist of irony, the guy was blaring Aerosmith's "Back in the Saddle!":rolleyes:View attachment 381686
That color is hideous-and it's definitely not a factory Mach E color. Eeeew.

But the fit and finish on the Mach E is actually really good. don't know why they slapped a Mustang name to it but it's actually quite well made. Price wise it's (comparatively) not bad either.
 

RB Martin

Veteran Member
That color is hideous-and it's definitely not a factory Mach E color. Eeeew.

But the fit and finish on the Mach E is actually really good. don't know why they slapped a Mustang name to it but it's actually quite well made. Price wise it's (comparatively) not bad either.
I agree, they should have called it something else!
 

teedee

Veteran Member
I was invited to a car viewing back in the 1970's in Dallas. They had one car from everyone and they were all silver. The first time I had seen a Hundi and it was priced at $2200 or something like that. I was impressed with the hundi but also amazed at how much all the rest looked the same even back then. After we had gone through all the silver cars we were taken behind a curtain and shown a few hand made style cars. Have no idea what they were anymore but one was painted red and one blue. They sure stood out after all the silver ones!
 

ChetekTech

Veteran Member
They called it a Mustang as Ford wouldn't know any original idea if it bit them!

Maverick is another one :rolleyes:

If they wanted to recycle a name, why they did they not choose Thunderbolt is beyond me. Perfect EV name and great Ford history as well!
 

KFhunter

Veteran Member
Well, at least my Murano is different. But it’s true that most of the CUVs are almost identical.

Now, that being said, let’s get to colors. About 95% of all cars on the road today are black, white, or gray, with a smattering of dull reds or blues.

Which is why my car is orange.

Oh ya, that is pretty different! /snark baahhahaa :jstr:
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wobble

Veteran Member
Whats happened with auto design as the example is similar to evolution of the NPC crowd in a way..
And funny that the autos of the topic are also controlling the drivers now and doing AI related things that culture does to humans..surveillance, monitored, reported, overrides, etc...even auto-brighting headlights that flash at oncomming drivers with "bright" lights on..They are like Karen Headlights..and Karens are kind of NPC.
I'm rambling..
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Jeff B.

Don’t let the Piss Ants get you down…
Well, at least my Murano is different. But it’s true that most of the CUVs are almost identical.

Now, that being said, let’s get to colors. About 95% of all cars on the road today are black, white, or gray, with a smattering of dull reds or blues.

Which is why my car is orange.
Hook 'em, Dennis!
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I don't know if this is still true or not, but the last few times I have been in the US (the last time was about four years ago) nearly everyone was driving a giant van that we'd always have to stop and buy a step stool or find a milk carton just for me to get inside without being lifted in. The basic "floors" were higher up than I could lift my legs (I'm 4'8" and can no longer bend well). Even with a step stool I usually had to pull myself in with the straps designed to hang suits from (I have good upper body strength).

I understood why friends who are musicians or have five kids might want one of these monsters (or who play Current Middle Ages on weekends with camping gear and body armor) but almost no one we met, stayed with, or traveled with had anything like a normal car. It was all these SUV sorts of vehicles, I didn't even see many pickup trucks even in rural California.

But I know that things can change quickly, has the gasoline/fuel shortages started to hit and caused people to want smaller cars? I remember when I live in California from 1989 to 1993, the trend was back to tiny cars because of fuel costs. Which is one reason the massive SUVs in Nightwolf's parents' home in Dallas Texas surprised me so much about 1995. I gather Texas was one of the first places to go for the Giant SUVs instead of cars in a big way, but it was like that everywhere my last few trips. I saw cars on the road, but almost no one I knew drove them.
 
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