LEGAL Alabama House passes monument preservation bill after heated debate

rhughe13

Heart of Dixie
April 27, 2017. The article is old, but the news today is that it has passed and going to the governors desk.

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/04/alabama_house_passes_monument.html

By Howard Koplowitz
hkoplowitz@al.com



After a prolonged and heated debate, the Alabama House voted Thursday to pass a bill that makes it tougher to remove monuments and historically significant structures from public property.


The Alabama Memorial Preservation Act would make the removal of any monuments on public land subject to approval by the Committee on Alabama Monument Protection, a body that the bill would create. The bill passed the House by a vote of 72-29 after nearly three hours of debate.


Several Democrats said the bill was offensive because it helps preserve Confederate monuments. They pointed out that the legislation was first introduced after then-Gov. Robert Bentley removed the Confederate flag from the state Capitol.
"My people suffered," said Rep. Jackson, D-Thomasville. "Don't bring back those harsh memories that we went through so much to overcome."


Rep. Mack Butler, R-Rainbow City, the House sponsor of the bill, stressed that the legislation does not only cover monuments but also "architecturally significant buildings," such as the state Capitol.


Rep. Alvin Holmes, D-Montgomery, said he wasn't buying that argument as motivation for the bill.


"You all in Alabama are trying to live in the past. Man, the Civil War is over with. The South lost the Civil War. I don't care how bad you wanted to win," he said, adding, "This house is getting a little more racist than I thought it would be."


Democrats also said they were angered that the bill was the first on the calendar, and that nearly three hours of the legislature's time was spent debating it.


"This type of legislation ... continues to put Alabama in a negative light, which it is known for racism, discrimination," said Rep. Juandalynn Givan, D-Birmingham. She said Bloody Sunday is what Alabama is best known for "other than Alabama and Auburn football."


Rep. John Knight, D-Montgomery, shared that sentiment.
"I know history's history, and everyone wants to appreciate their history, but... some things we have to put in the past," he said. "We gain nothing by it."
Knight tried to convince Butler that the bill would not help his legacy.


"You will go down in history, Rep. Butler," King said. "Your grandchildren were read about you sponsoring this bill in this house..."


Rep. Napoleon Bracy, D-Prichard, said the bill inflames tensions.
"Stuff like this directly divides us down the middle," he said. "People that sponsor bills like this don't care about me."


The Senate passed a different version of the bill last month, so the House version will head to the upper chamber to reconcile the differences.
 

rhughe13

Heart of Dixie
It passed the House and Senate, then went to Conference where it went into a debate between 3 Sentate and 3 House members. It passed Conference and went back to the House and Senate for a vote again, which is passed.

It went to our Governors desk about 2:00 PM today. I have heard two stories that she has to sign it today. Another person says she has 10 days.
 

tiger13

Veteran Member
There is only one thing written in stone, and that is history. No matter what people say, or who tries to write it, there is but one true version. Those that cannot accept it are fools and liars. Those idiots that try to remove these monuments are no better than ISIS, and should be treated no better than they are.
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
They've been removing these statues in the dark of night, some under sniper guard on rooftops. They took down General Robert E. Lee's statue last night around 12am. Why at night? Because they don't want to be seen doing it, and they fear the public will do something about the stealing and defacing of historical monuments that are public property-there is a law against that, I saw it on TB yesterday while reading a thread about the responsibilities of the POTUS IIRC.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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They've been removing these statues in the dark of night, some under sniper guard on rooftops. They took down General Robert E. Lee's statue last night around 12am. Why at night? Because they don't want to be seen doing it, and they fear the public will do something about the stealing and defacing of historical monuments that are public property-there is a law against that, I saw it on TB yesterday while reading a thread about the responsibilities of the POTUS IIRC.

That was Newallens. (New Orleans...to furriners)
 

SmithJ

Veteran Member
About an hour ago on Lee Circle. (n'awlins)

Sorry it's sideways
 

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rhughe13

Heart of Dixie
If you live in Alabama please call the Gov and ask her to sign it
Into legislation. The SB 60 Monument Protection Bill that covers all war veterans has passed and needs to be signed by Gov Kay Ivey. Please call and ask her to sign it. Have others call too. (334) 242-7100. Even the State Department of Education is against the bill.
 

Garryowen

Deceased
Communists and Muslims seek to remove all historical and religious monuments except those that compliment themselves.
 
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